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DC Universe Injustice

Discussing DC Injustice and Mortal Kombat versus DC Universe.
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Mick-LuciferPosted: 07/24/2013 03:05 AMStatus ::
Injustice DLC: Jim Lee Scorpion Design Spotlight

It was a fortnight ago Mortal Kombat Online was among the first sources to reveal Jim Lee's concept art for Scorpion! The Facebook first post proved popular with the extended MKOmmunity, even as controversy over guest characters continued in the build to Evo 2013.

The Mortal Kombat icon made the leap to Injustice: Gods Among Us in a June announcement [see trailer]. It garnered mixed response as the third of four character additions via the DLC Season Pass. The unique design by DC Comics' co-publisher and veteran artist, Lee, proved just as divisive as the inclusion itself. Examine the look further in the images below [click to enlarge].


The value of guest characters in fighting games is a debate that doesn't appear to be going away any time soon. Most major fighters have now incorporated a third-party guest into their playable ensembles. Mortal Kombat controversially indulged an obtuse guest fighter in horror icon Freddy Krueger -- segregated as DLC, but elevated to box art for the 2012 Komplete Edition. Kratos (of God of War) also appeared as a more palatable PlayStation 3 exclusive.

If Krueger -- included a full year after his return to screens in a disappointing 2010 remake -- represents the farthest stretch for relevance; Scorpion sits somewhere down the softer end of the scale.

As the spiritual successor to 2008's Midway swansong: Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe -- Injustice was a natural for a Mortal Kombat guest. It arrived over three years after the Warner Brothers acquisition [full story] and marked NetherRealm Studios' first major departure from the Mortal Kombat series. In truth, in embarking on the journey into Gods Among Us, Mortal Kombat Online was hoping for, and anticipating, just such an inclusion. It was a nice nod to everything leading up to it.

Perhaps our only glaring criticism was that Scorpion's inclusion wasn't a bit more creative. Sure, his iconic move set is all there, and we really like that this opportunity was utilized to give the character a unique look, based on a crossover talent. We just can't shake the thought it might have been better were it included on-disc.

We can completely empathize with consumers who purchased the $14.99 DLC Season Pass expecting a DC fighting game to deliver DC characters. After all, the DC brand brings an expectation of crossover interest from a mainstream audience. With that in mind, it seemed like the perfect opportunity for NetherRealm to dip their toe back into the world of true blue, deep and mysterious video game secrets!

Mortal Kombat characters have crossed over into other games before. In-house Midway productions like NBA Jam and The Grid snuck characters like Sub-Zero and Raiden into secret unlockable appearances. With history of MKvsDC to play with -- and so few substantial surprises in the finished product -- we would've relished teasing glimpses of hellfire and a teleporting golden ninja.

In any event, Scorpion is here to stay. At $4.99 (400 MS Points), the infernal ninja can be purchased as an individual download, or accepted as part of the Season Pass. Injustice welcomes its fifth downloadable character next week, with the long anticipated arrival of Martian Manhunter! NetherRealm Studios will be streaming a live demo July 29 [full story] -- one day before the DLC goes live!

Discuss all things Gods Among Us on the DC Universe Injustice forum! As a member, you can enter our Arrow Skin DLC Giveaway to claim a TV-inspired Green Arrow skin. For more, follow us @MK_Online and like us on Facebook.

DetoxPosted: 07/24/2013 03:35 AMStatus ::


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RE: Injustice DLC: Jim Lee Scorpion Design Spotlight

Sad as it is to say, secret modes/characters/items in video games are pretty much dead, even in the house that MK built. Why let a customer have that after they've already paid you $60, when you can just charge them more for it down the road for the sake of "extending the life of the game"(i.e.making more money).

I can't say I like the practice, but I've far from abstained from buying the stuff, especially with this game...so I'll just stfu now.

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MINIONPosted: 07/24/2013 03:42 AMStatus ::


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RE: Injustice DLC: Jim Lee Scorpion Design Spotlight

I enjoy every character this game has and will have to offer. But the nerfs Scorpion got it almost makes me wish he wasn't even in the game at all.

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DetoxPosted: 07/24/2013 03:50 AMStatus ::


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RE: Injustice DLC: Jim Lee Scorpion Design Spotlight

MINION Wrote:
I enjoy every character this game has and will have to offer. But the nerfs Scorpion got it almost makes me wish he wasn't even in the game at all.


Whiny community...

The whole situation made a lot of the community's "pro" players(leaders) look like real assholes for jumping the gun as far as Scorpion nerfs went. I did agree that the character was a problem, but didn't necessarily deserve to be beaten half to death by the nerf bat...I demand a nerf Batman costume.

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MINIONPosted: 07/24/2013 04:09 AMStatus ::


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RE: Injustice DLC: Jim Lee Scorpion Design Spotlight

Detox Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
I enjoy every character this game has and will have to offer. But the nerfs Scorpion got it almost makes me wish he wasn't even in the game at all.




Whiny community...



The whole situation made a lot of the community's "pro" players(leaders) look like real assholes for jumping the gun as far as Scorpion nerfs went. I did agree that the character was a problem, but didn't necessarily deserve to be beaten half to death by the nerf bat...I demand a nerf Batman costume.

I honestly have no problem with scorpion being in the game. I've pretty much been accepting of anything that's added or subtracted. I'm just saying as whole if scorpion was going to be an issue for people and the block mechanic he could of been replaced by someone who was more suited you know?

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DetoxPosted: 07/24/2013 04:15 AMStatus ::


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RE: Injustice DLC: Jim Lee Scorpion Design Spotlight

MINION Wrote:
Detox Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
I enjoy every character this game has and will have to offer. But the nerfs Scorpion got it almost makes me wish he wasn't even in the game at all.






Whiny community...





The whole situation made a lot of the community's "pro" players(leaders) look like real assholes for jumping the gun as far as Scorpion nerfs went. I did agree that the character was a problem, but didn't necessarily deserve to be beaten half to death by the nerf bat...I demand a nerf Batman costume.


I honestly have no problem with scorpion being in the game. I've pretty much been accepting of anything that's added or subtracted. I'm just saying as whole if scorpion was going to be an issue for people and the block mechanic he could of been replaced by someone who was more suited you know?


Haha was not referring to you with the whiny community bit(was referencing the overblown scorp backlash). My bad for any confusion.

I absolutely agree. If nothing else, some simple design changes could have made a world of difference.

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MINIONPosted: 07/24/2013 04:19 AMStatus ::


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RE: Injustice DLC: Jim Lee Scorpion Design Spotlight

Detox Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
Detox Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
I enjoy every character this game has and will have to offer. But the nerfs Scorpion got it almost makes me wish he wasn't even in the game at all.








Whiny community...







The whole situation made a lot of the community's "pro" players(leaders) look like real assholes for jumping the gun as far as Scorpion nerfs went. I did agree that the character was a problem, but didn't necessarily deserve to be beaten half to death by the nerf bat...I demand a nerf Batman costume.



I honestly have no problem with scorpion being in the game. I've pretty much been accepting of anything that's added or subtracted. I'm just saying as whole if scorpion was going to be an issue for people and the block mechanic he could of been replaced by someone who was more suited you know?




Haha was not referring to you with the whiny community bit(was reffering to the overblown scorp backlash). My bad for any confusion.



I absolutely agree. If nothing else, some simple design changes could have made a world of difference.

I know bro, and I agree. Honestly though. I never say this unless I'm certain but Batgirl is by far THE BEST zoner in the game. Her teleport and fast wake up cartwheel kick into her 50/50 grab, mid, low is insane. Add that to her speed. She's practically indestructible. This will be tested upon manhunters release.

From what I seen of him. He's gonna be a midscreen colossus. His orbs the blue & red, blue being normal, red being ex is gonna be a challenge for impatient jumpers. I suspect those along with his teleport and strech moves. I'll just say man, he'll be top 8 in this game. No doubt.

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raidenthefridgePosted: 07/24/2013 04:24 AMStatus ::


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RE: Injustice DLC: Jim Lee Scorpion Design Spotlight

I love the first sketch, the costume looks much better hand drawn that it does in game.

Thanks to MINION for taking my Siginity!
DetoxPosted: 07/24/2013 04:34 AMStatus ::


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RE: Injustice DLC: Jim Lee Scorpion Design Spotlight

MINION Wrote:
Detox Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
Detox Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
I enjoy every character this game has and will have to offer. But the nerfs Scorpion got it almost makes me wish he wasn't even in the game at all.










Whiny community...









The whole situation made a lot of the community's "pro" players(leaders) look like real assholes for jumping the gun as far as Scorpion nerfs went. I did agree that the character was a problem, but didn't necessarily deserve to be beaten half to death by the nerf bat...I demand a nerf Batman costume.




I honestly have no problem with scorpion being in the game. I've pretty much been accepting of anything that's added or subtracted. I'm just saying as whole if scorpion was going to be an issue for people and the block mechanic he could of been replaced by someone who was more suited you know?






Haha was not referring to you with the whiny community bit(was reffering to the overblown scorp backlash). My bad for any confusion.





I absolutely agree. If nothing else, some simple design changes could have made a world of difference.


I know bro, and I agree. Honestly though. I never say this unless I'm certain but Batgirl is by far THE BEST zoner in the game. Her teleport and fast wake up cartwheel kick into her 50/50 grab, mid, low is insane. Add that to her speed. She's practically indestructible. This will be tested upon manhunters release.



From what I seen of him. He's gonna be a midscreen colossus. His orbs the blue & red, blue being normal, red being ex is gonna be a challenge for impatient jumpers. I suspect those along with his teleport and strech moves. I'll just say man, he'll be top 8 in this game. No doubt.


Went the same way in Mortal Kombat. All the community charity cases got nerfed, then once the patches stopped, the largely overlooked characters became the most dominant in the game. Injustice sadly looks like it will follow suit.

Manhunter is beast for sure. He looks like he's gonna be able to give any play style problems. Let's just hope patience becomes the virtue it was meant to be and people actually learn the match ups before manhunter suffers the same fate as Scorpion.

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MINIONPosted: 07/24/2013 04:41 AMStatus ::


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RE: Injustice DLC: Jim Lee Scorpion Design Spotlight

Detox Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
Detox Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
Detox Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
I enjoy every character this game has and will have to offer. But the nerfs Scorpion got it almost makes me wish he wasn't even in the game at all.












Whiny community...











The whole situation made a lot of the community's "pro" players(leaders) look like real assholes for jumping the gun as far as Scorpion nerfs went. I did agree that the character was a problem, but didn't necessarily deserve to be beaten half to death by the nerf bat...I demand a nerf Batman costume.





I honestly have no problem with scorpion being in the game. I've pretty much been accepting of anything that's added or subtracted. I'm just saying as whole if scorpion was going to be an issue for people and the block mechanic he could of been replaced by someone who was more suited you know?








Haha was not referring to you with the whiny community bit(was reffering to the overblown scorp backlash). My bad for any confusion.







I absolutely agree. If nothing else, some simple design changes could have made a world of difference.



I know bro, and I agree. Honestly though. I never say this unless I'm certain but Batgirl is by far THE BEST zoner in the game. Her teleport and fast wake up cartwheel kick into her 50/50 grab, mid, low is insane. Add that to her speed. She's practically indestructible. This will be tested upon manhunters release.





From what I seen of him. He's gonna be a midscreen colossus. His orbs the blue & red, blue being normal, red being ex is gonna be a challenge for impatient jumpers. I suspect those along with his teleport and strech moves. I'll just say man, he'll be top 8 in this game. No doubt.




Went the same way in Mortal Kombat. All the community charity cases got nerfed, then once the patches stopped, the largely overlooked characters became the most dominant in the game. Injustice sadly looks like it will follow suit.



Manhunter is beast for sure. He looks like he's gonna be able to give any play style problems. Let's just hope patience becomes the virtue it was meant to be and people actually learn the match ups before manhunter suffers the same fate as Scorpion.

I agree. Did you see that NRS was considering 1 last MK9 patch to balance things out?

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DetoxPosted: 07/24/2013 04:46 AMStatus ::


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I'd love to see it happen. It would freshen up the game, and give it a solid shot at making next years evo. Plus it would be good faith towards the fgc, and show that they really are dedicated to them over the long haul.

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Mick-LuciferPosted: 07/24/2013 04:55 AMStatus ::


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RE: Injustice DLC: Jim Lee Scorpion Design Spotlight

Detox Wrote:
Whiny community...

The whole situation made a lot of the community's "pro" players(leaders) look like real assholes for jumping the gun as far as Scorpion nerfs went. I did agree that the character was a problem, but didn't necessarily deserve to be beaten half to death by the nerf bat...I demand a nerf Batman costume.

#NormalizeTheFGC

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DetoxPosted: 07/24/2013 05:07 AMStatus ::


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RE: Injustice DLC: Jim Lee Scorpion Design Spotlight

Mick-Lucifer Wrote:


#NormalizeTheFGC


This.

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raidenthefridge Wrote:
I love the first sketch, the costume looks much better hand drawn that it does in game.
That's kind of the name of the game when it comes to this game. Almost everything looked pretty decent as concept art but the translation to actual graphics made a lot of characters look not so good.

Eh I don't mind guest characters I just mind Scorpion. It was a little predictable and in general I don't like creator pet kind of characters. This is the best I've seen him look though, dick-cape aside.

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I kind of agree, I like Scorpion and all, but I guest character slots give us a space to play as a non-fighting game character in a fighting game.

Instead we got a fighting gamer character in a similar fighting game.

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RE: Injustice DLC: Jim Lee Scorpion Design Spotlight

MINION Wrote:
Detox Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
I enjoy every character this game has and will have to offer. But the nerfs Scorpion got it almost makes me wish he wasn't even in the game at all.






Whiny community...





The whole situation made a lot of the community's "pro" players(leaders) look like real assholes for jumping the gun as far as Scorpion nerfs went. I did agree that the character was a problem, but didn't necessarily deserve to be beaten half to death by the nerf bat...I demand a nerf Batman costume.


I honestly have no problem with scorpion being in the game. I've pretty much been accepting of anything that's added or subtracted. I'm just saying as whole if scorpion was going to be an issue for people and the block mechanic he could of been replaced by someone who was more suited you know?


If they can, I think they should add the block function for just standing still. I have the same problem, not only with teleporters, but when i'm holding back to block someone in the air, suddenly they hit you from the other side by barely reaching over you. It makes you have to second guess which direction you have to hold to block. So again, i feel they could use that auto-block function that most fighting games use.


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