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Mick-LuciferPosted: 08/16/2014 02:35 AMStatus ::
Feature: Could Hydro Appear in the Next Mortal Kombat?

In June, the first trailer for Mortal Kombat X left us with an inquisitive tagline: Who's next? Fans hardly needed prompting to ask. After more than twenty years as a franchise - Mortal Kombat's ever-increasing cast of characters has made this a prevalent question ahead of any new installment!

The aggressive turnover of ideas, designs and playable characters has made Mortal Kombat a unique series to follow. Fans typically hold on to favourites with zealous fervour, but are just as inclined to seek untapped obscurities to keep the final cut fresh.

Thanks to the breadth of Mortal Kombat's reach as a pop culture icon - obscurity comes in many shapes and forms! There's the tradition of in-game easter eggs, hoaxes & rumors, and forgotten cult favourites from side-projects, like Tremor (Special Forces). Then there's the entire world of cross-media licensed adaptations - which brings us to today's feature question!

Many fans within the MKOmmunity have asked and speculated: Could Hydro appear in the next Mortal Kombat? The simple, odds-on answer is: No. The reason: A bit more complicated... Read on for the full story:


Project Hydro: Live-action webseries Legacy introduced cyborg fighter "LK-1V1".

If you know who Hydro is, it's a bit easier to write the character off your wishlist. The final episode of Mortal Kombat: Legacy Season 1 introduced Hydro to an audience of millions in 2011 -- but his true origins date back to 1994!

The character featured in Legacy was a grey toned Lin Kuei test cyborg designated Project Hydro [pictured above] -- or "LK-1V1", in keeping with MK3 reference codes [ie; Sektor, Cyrax & Smoke]. We might speculate director Kevin Tancharoen's YouTube leanings sourced the cyborg from popular fan-fiction of bootleg MUGEN game videos, but both examples ultimately -- knowingly, or not -- reference the same source.

Just like the other cyber-assassins featured in games and film: Hydro began life as a flesh-and-bone Lin Kuei warrior. In fact, he was never a cyborg at all.

His first appearance came in Mortal Kombat: Blood & Thunder -- a six-issue mini-series published by Malibu Comics.

These comics were part of a licensing phenomenon that came with the escalating success of Mortal Kombat II in 1993. Blood & Thunder was the source from which many mini-series and one-shots exploded, anchoring the books in a deviant retelling of the basic tournament plot. Opening acts were referential to the point of sometimes mirroring an official collectible comic issued by mail order, but Blood & Thunder quickly deviates with the embellishment of added original creations, and new story elements.

Fighters like Hydro, Lieutenant Lance, Grum, Sing & Sang, and others were created to help flesh out the tournament beyond early nineties game hardware. To ascertain whether or not anyone at Midway was involved in their creation, we asked the man behind the most famous Mortal Kombat characters: John Tobias.

The series co-creator and original creative lead told Mortal Kombat Online: "The only involvement I had with the Malibu comics was approval as a licensor, and only occasionally suggestions on story direction. We treated the comics as separate from the game's story canon to avoid conflicts, or complications with the direction we were taking the games. I would have liked to have been more involved, but was too busy focusing on the games."

Writer Charles Marshall and penciler Patrick Rolo divided chores on Blood & Thunder, making them the presumed creators of these original characters. In conjunction with license agreements, the comic creators were likely operating under a work-for-hire contract. This means they may have been entitled to residual royalties [a rumoured 5%], but trademark ownership likely remained with Malibu Comics, subject to stipulations of trademarks owned by Midway Entertainment.

Any rights established under Midway would have transferred to Warner Brothers with the 2009 approval of their purchase of the bankrupt company. In an ironic twist, however, Malibu Comics themselves were subject to purchase by Marvel Comics at the end of 1994. [Marvel is presently owned by famed WB rival: Disney Corporation.]

The division of royalties and rights pretty much ends the discussion about Malibu created characters. Not only is it much less cost effective than creating in-house properties through already contracted employees, but the majority of Malibu characters simply aren't good enough to warrant the effort. In the case of Hydro, he's a soggy second to fan-favourite water wielder: Rain. A character who lived and died as an expendable, half-melted Sub-Zero with sleeves, who only made it to Blood & Thunder #4 before being killed by Scorpion. [Toasty!]

For the sake of following the story to its conclusion, we asked long suffering Marvel Editor Tom Brevoort about the status of Malibu Comics properties. He responded: "There is a legal situation that prevents us from doing anything with any of the Malibu characters or properties—but because of non-disclosure agreements, I cannot tell you anything beyond that about it. So, long story short, nothing’s going on with those characters."


Finish Him: Scorpion wins. Fatality!

Wait just a second! If ownership and looming litigation makes it so difficult -- why the heck did Hydro appear in Mortal Kombat: Legacy?!

Without speaking to the merit of Kevin Tancharoen's creative decisions, we would conclude two simple caveats. 1) Although the name and concept is similar; "Project Hydro" bares no resemblance to the character that appears in Malibu Comics. He exhibits none of the abilities of the comics character, nor does he share any design similarities. 2) The appearance is probably well beneath anybody's radar or will to care.

Though possibly spirit crushing, we hope this feature investigation is at least informative and helpful. Fortunately, Mortal Kombat X still promises plenty of original and returning characters for 2015! This week's Gamescom gave us Kano -- the latest reveal with a new design and fighting Variations that are making him a fan-favourite!

Learn more about the history and importance of comics to Mortal Kombat in our previous feature. Register to post questions and discuss articles on the forums! You can also interact with us by following Mortal Kombat Online @MK_Online or via FacebooK.

Jaded-RavenPosted: 08/16/2014 02:43 AMStatus ::


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RE: Feature: Will Hydro Appear in the Next Mortal Kombat?

You made one huge article just to say that Hydro can't be in MK, because NRS and WB don't got the copyrights? Well, maybe then that will get people to stop asking for him.

James_SunderlandPosted: 08/16/2014 02:50 AMStatus ::


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RE: Feature: Will Hydro Appear in the Next Mortal Kombat?

Bwahahahaha!

Slow news day huh?

Second fan of "The Lady in Green...err Turquoise, no Gold?"
rockyrockz95Posted: 08/16/2014 02:51 AMStatus ::


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RE: Feature: Will Hydro Appear in the Next Mortal Kombat?

And finally people can stop saying Hydro is the new Sub-Zero. (If this Sub-Zero is in fact new.)

CassiesPatentedNutBusterPosted: 08/16/2014 02:56 AMStatus ::


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RE: Feature: Will Hydro Appear in the Next Mortal Kombat?

Nice piece of inf-

*falls out of chair laughing*

UltimachuPosted: 08/16/2014 03:10 AMStatus ::


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RE: Feature: Will Hydro Appear in the Next Mortal Kombat?

Boon may have slipped up and confirmed Kuai-Liang's (or maybe even Bi-Han's) revival in This interview.

At around the 1 minute mark, Ed Boon begins to talk about older characters and descendant characters. He says:

...we see some of these characters, Kano, and Raiden, and Sub-Zero all in their kind of their older forms."

This kind of (to me at least) implies that in some way, shape or form, Sub-Zero will get revived after the events of the previous game. He also goes on to imply that there will be several new characters that will be sons and daughters of familiar characters from the previous generation of fighters.

One other thing to note, however, is a picture that was posted a while back. I believe it may have been on Netherrealm's Facebook or Twitter. It was a picture of Sub-Zero and Scorpion fighting and the caption said "New Kombatant vs. Klassic Kombatant", which could imply that Scoprion is the Klassic and Sub-Zero is the New (aka a descendant). So pretty much, it's kind of up in the air right now. I want to hope that Kuai get's revived so we don't have THREE different people representing the name "Sub-Zero".

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mkmileenaPosted: 08/16/2014 03:29 AMStatus ::


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RE: Feature: Will Hydro Appear in the Next Mortal Kombat?

The fuck? I'm not going to read thru all that if the answer is no.

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Jaded-RavenPosted: 08/16/2014 03:31 AMStatus ::


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RE: Feature: Will Hydro Appear in the Next Mortal Kombat?

mkmileena Wrote:
The fuck? I'm not going to read trey all that if the answer is no.


It basically says NRS and WB don't have the rights to make Hydro in the game.

mkwhopperPosted: 08/16/2014 03:39 AMStatus ::


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RE: Feature: Will Hydro Appear in the Next Mortal Kombat?

Well that was informative

mkmileenaPosted: 08/16/2014 03:49 AMStatus ::


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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
mkmileena Wrote:
The fuck? I'm not going to read trey all that if the answer is no.




It basically says NRS and WB don't have the rights to make Hydro in the game.


Well that sucks.

Ethereal, ravenous, piercing. It's Mileena bitch.

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Jaded-RavenPosted: 08/16/2014 03:50 AMStatus ::


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RE: Feature: Will Hydro Appear in the Next Mortal Kombat?

mkmileena Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
mkmileena Wrote:
The fuck? I'm not going to read trey all that if the answer is no.






It basically says NRS and WB don't have the rights to make Hydro in the game.




Well that sucks.


Noooo. That's good news.

mkmileenaPosted: 08/16/2014 03:53 AMStatus ::


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RE: Feature: Will Hydro Appear in the Next Mortal Kombat?

I liked hydro in legacy and could see great potential as a cyborg character in the mk verse. I wouldn't mind him

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Jaded-RavenPosted: 08/16/2014 04:04 AMStatus ::


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mkmileena Wrote:
I liked hydro in legacy and could see great potential as a cyborg character in the mk verse. I wouldn't mind him


We already had Rain to fill the role of "water ninja", why the Nether would NRS NOT include him, but some random nobody from the comics?

Well, no need to argue about it. It's not going to happen anyways.

mkwhopperPosted: 08/16/2014 05:21 AMStatus ::


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RE: Feature: Will Hydro Appear in the Next Mortal Kombat?

It's okay guys. Hydro will be playable...in a MUGEN

ProfesserAhnkaPosted: 08/16/2014 05:49 AMStatus ::


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*waits for the incoming "Well he's still better than Rain! At least he's not a joke!" Ignorant comments*


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raidenthefridgePosted: 08/16/2014 08:18 AMStatus ::


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RE: Feature: Will Hydro Appear in the Next Mortal Kombat?

ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
*waits for the incoming "Well he's still better than Rain! At least he's not a joke!" Ignorant comments*





Honestly I don't think anyone would really consider Hydro a legit replacement for Rain.

While I have no interest in Hydro, licencing laws are really fucked up and its sad that some characters can just be lost in time forever.

Thanks to MINION for taking my Siginity!
SwingBattaPosted: 08/16/2014 09:12 AMStatus ::


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RE: Feature: Will Hydro Appear in the Next Mortal Kombat?

Including a two-decade old disposable cannon-fodder character from the awful comic series into MKX would be the very definition of pathetic.

Even though it's not happening, I couldn't blame Rain fans for seething over this piece of news.

AJBluePosted: 08/16/2014 09:18 AMStatus ::


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RE: Feature: Will Hydro Appear in the Next Mortal Kombat?

Jaded-Raven Wrote:
mkmileena Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
mkmileena Wrote:
The fuck? I'm not going to read trey all that if the answer is no.








It basically says NRS and WB don't have the rights to make Hydro in the game.






Well that sucks.




Noooo. That's good news.



Noooo. That's your opinion.

For somebody who bitches as much about opinions as you I do, one would assume you'd be more open to other people's. But I know your shtick by now.

Why would NRS include a green female "ninja" when they already have a pink and blue one? Especially when the green one is the weakest of the three?

Seriously, you're ants at a picnic.

Jaded-RavenPosted: 08/16/2014 09:24 AMStatus ::


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RE: Feature: Will Hydro Appear in the Next Mortal Kombat?

AJBlue Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
mkmileena Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
mkmileena Wrote:
The fuck? I'm not going to read trey all that if the answer is no.










It basically says NRS and WB don't have the rights to make Hydro in the game.








Well that sucks.






Noooo. That's good news.






Noooo. That's your opinion.



For somebody who bitches as much about opinions as you I do, one would assume you'd be more open to other people's. But I know your shtick by now.



Why would NRS include a green female "ninja" when they already have a pink and blue one? Especially when the green one is the weakest of the three?



Seriously, you're ants at a picnic.


Hehe, it's funny that you try and offend me by making fun of Jade, and actually expect for it to work. Do you feel better now? Do you feel relieved now that you've done this? Hey, you should go to my fanart submissions and make fun of them as well. That would probably make you hard.

IcebabyPosted: 08/16/2014 11:04 AMStatus ::


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RE: Feature: Will Hydro Appear in the Next Mortal Kombat?

I honestly don't get the want for him, especially since so many have been stating they don't want another cyborg.

Finally, everyone who wants him in can shut up about it because of copyright claims.

SwingBattaPosted: 08/16/2014 02:13 PMStatus ::


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Lance, Grum, Siang and Hydro were added as punching bags for the regular characters, nothing more. The first two didn't even make it out of the second issue.

mkwhopperPosted: 08/16/2014 02:20 PMStatus ::


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RE: Feature: Will Hydro Appear in the Next Mortal Kombat?

Isn't he non canon anyway?

ShadalooPosted: 08/16/2014 02:41 PMStatus ::


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RE: Feature: Will Hydro Appear in the Next Mortal Kombat?

You know, if it is a new Sub this time around and they pull another "my codename was Tundra before I took up the mantle" except this time said codename was 'Hydro' - which they could probably get away with - Sure, fine.

But rights issues aside, there's no way in hell another water-based ninja would take off in any form when even Rain struggles to find a fanbase after two solid appearances. It's just not a necessary concept. No hate.


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jdnice11Posted: 08/16/2014 02:50 PMStatus ::


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RE: Feature: Could Hydro Appear in the Next Mortal Kombat?

I wouldn't be opposed to him making his debut BUT chronologically Hydro died before the 1st MK tournament at the hands of Scorpion.

ShadalooPosted: 08/16/2014 03:03 PMStatus ::


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jdnice11 Wrote:
I wouldn't be opposed to him making his debut BUT chronologically Hydro died before the 1st MK tournament at the hands of Scorpion.


Remember, what happens in the comics, shows and movies has zero impact on the games. Hydro plain and simply isn't a character in the official MK game universe and never was. If they created him he could wander in whenever.


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