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OptimusGrimePosted: 11/11/2017 10:28 AMStatus ::


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RE: All New Official Wrestling Thread!!

Nah, what happened to Jinder was a travesty and Smackdown is officially [removed] until he reclaims the throne. Edit: C'mon Mick, you know better.

Mick: Next stop Bansville.

Snarkier edit: I'm sure the half-dozen people who drop in every three months will miss me.

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DetoxPosted: 11/11/2017 03:56 PMStatus ::


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RE: All New Official Wrestling Thread!!

OptimusGrime Wrote:
To be fair, I wouldn't knock myself out paying TNA's talent and crew either.


Hard to dispute, but it's not many people out there willing to put their best foot forward for a check that they know may not be there.

There are bigger sacrifices one might be asked to make than going a little mad.
OptimusGrimePosted: 11/11/2017 08:12 PMStatus ::


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A decade ago (or hell, even 5-6 years ago) I would have agreed completely. But now? In 2017, anyone, in any capacity, signing on the dotted line with a company that changes names and stations almost as frequently as it does management, should know what they're in for.

DetoxPosted: 11/11/2017 10:00 PMStatus ::


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OptimusGrime Wrote:
A decade ago (or hell, even 5-6 years ago) I would have agreed completely. But now? In 2017, anyone, in any capacity, signing on the dotted line with a company that changes names and stations almost as frequently as it does management, should know what they're in for.


Haha, once again, hard to dispute.

There are bigger sacrifices one might be asked to make than going a little mad.
DetoxPosted: 11/13/2017 09:40 PMStatus ::


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RE: All New Official Wrestling Thread!!

And Jason Jordan just went over Bray Wyatt...



There are bigger sacrifices one might be asked to make than going a little mad.
OptimusGrimePosted: 11/14/2017 10:48 AMStatus ::


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RE: All New Official Wrestling Thread!!

You gotta love Bray's slow, painful evolution into this decade's Ken Kennedy.

Maverick_Hunter_VPosted: 11/21/2017 03:44 PMStatus ::


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I'm surprised anyone still gets upset about Bray losing. It's second nature now.

Thoughts on War Games and Survivor Series?

I liked both; War Games more so, because EVERY match was stellar. I have gripes with the main event; there really should have been a cage and I'm not a fan of whole teams coming in at once, but overall it was good to see the match back.

Survivor Series was alright for what it was, the main event was a travesty though

What'd y'all think?

OptimusGrimePosted: 11/22/2017 11:06 AMStatus ::


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I refused to watch Survivor Series on moral grounds. Once Jinder Mahal was swapped out for AJ Styles, I accepted that the show would be total dog shit.

SubMan799Posted: 11/23/2017 10:48 PMStatus ::


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OptimusGrime Wrote:
I refused to watch Survivor Series on moral grounds. Once Jinder Mahal was swapped out for AJ Styles, I accepted that the show would be total dog shit.


wut

OptimusGrimePosted: 11/24/2017 11:30 AMStatus ::


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wut


Not much to it, man. I'm a fan of Mahal's and have been since 3MB, which had been my favorite gimmick in years. Seeing a dude you respect make his way from comedy afterthought to world champ is badass.

Conversely, Styles is a boring bitch who can't cut a promo to save his life and who's never had a decent match without someone capable of carrying him (Christopher Daniels, Samoa Joe, Jamie Noble). Guess which one I wanted to see in a semi-main?

DetoxPosted: 11/26/2017 08:03 PMStatus ::


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Maverick_Hunter_V Wrote:
I'm surprised anyone still gets upset about Bray losing. It's second nature now.


Hope can be such a toxic mistress.

There are bigger sacrifices one might be asked to make than going a little mad.
Mick-LuciferPosted: 11/30/2017 11:49 PMStatus ::


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You cannot hinder Jinder.

Beastmaster life.

RIP Bray Wyatt.
We hardly knew ye. That was part of the problem.

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DetoxPosted: 12/01/2017 07:56 PMStatus ::


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RIP Bray Wyatt.

We hardly knew ye. That was part of the problem.


He needs a face turn so fucking badly. It’s the only thing they can do to salvage him at this point. Nobody wants to boo the man and the ridiculous lengths they go to try to get him heat just damages him further. He’s the Bizarro Roman Reigns.

There are bigger sacrifices one might be asked to make than going a little mad.
Mick-LuciferPosted: 12/07/2017 01:54 AMStatus ::


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Detox Wrote:
Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
RIP Bray Wyatt.
We hardly knew ye. That was part of the problem.


He needs a face turn so fucking badly. It’s the only thing they can do to salvage him at this point. Nobody wants to boo the man and the ridiculous lengths they go to try to get him heat just damages him further. He’s the Bizarro Roman Reigns.

I dunno. Do people really want to cheer him? I couldn't contemplate feeling anything positive about Bray Wyatt right now. Something drastic would have to change. Holding up a light in the dark is one thing, but dude's been a drain for a looong time.

I'd fantasy book my face off for a really good Sister Abigail run, but I think they'd just run into the same problems they've had with Wyatt.

He's too exposed. Should've kept him off TV until the Royal Rumble and used the time to get him a worthwhile reboot. Sister Abigail as an elusive, hidden, shock and awe kind of character could've won me over.

Better The Devil you know...
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SubMan799Posted: 01/28/2018 04:52 PMStatus ::


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BRYAN GONNA WIN THE RUMBLE

OOLA OOLA OOLA OOLA

OptimusGrimePosted: 01/29/2018 04:16 AMStatus ::


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I guess you could say Bryan's chances of winning the Rumble...

...

Were kamikaze'd.

Mick-LuciferPosted: 01/31/2018 09:52 AMStatus ::


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SubMan799 Wrote:
BRYAN GONNA WIN THE RUMBLE

OOLA OOLA OOLA OOLA

Wrongda Rousey. Point, point, point. Bongggg.

Nakamura/AJ works, but ehhhhh... Women's Rumble had tonnes more intrigue and a much stronger winner choice. Throw Rousey in after the match, it was a pretty good choice for main event. Wouldn't want it every year, but it sure worked this year.

Better The Devil you know...
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Mick-LuciferPosted: 02/25/2018 11:11 PMStatus ::


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Anybody catch the 1hr 40m gauntlet match on RAW this week? Pretty nice change of pace.

Was hoping for something wacky in the CHamber, like a Rollins/Reigns double-pin finish. Something to at least spice up Reigns/Lesnar at Mania. No such luck.

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DetoxPosted: 03/01/2018 03:55 PMStatus ::


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Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
Anybody catch the 1hr 40m gauntlet match on RAW this week? Pretty nice change of pace.


Absolutely. Rollins came out of that one looking like a million bucks. I legit marked out when he pulled off Cena’s AA spot.

Mick-Lucifer Wrote:

Was hoping for something wacky in the CHamber, like a Rollins/Reigns double-pin finish. Something to at least spice up Reigns/Lesnar at Mania. No such luck.


Eh, considering that’s how Rollins ended up in the chamber match to begin with, i would’ve been shocked to see them pull that again. No, Reigns coronation seems to be the only way it’s gonna be this year. I’m sure the more deserving like Strowman, Miz, or Rollins will end up in the Andre battle royal or a mixed tag match(Facebook exclusive pre-show).

There are bigger sacrifices one might be asked to make than going a little mad.
Mick-LuciferPosted: 03/12/2018 11:52 PMStatus ::


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Detox Wrote:
Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
Anybody catch the 1hr 40m gauntlet match on RAW this week? Pretty nice change of pace.

Absolutely. Rollins came out of that one looking like a million bucks. I legit marked out when he pulled off Cena’s AA spot.

Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
Was hoping for something wacky in the CHamber, like a Rollins/Reigns double-pin finish. Something to at least spice up Reigns/Lesnar at Mania. No such luck.


Eh, considering that’s how Rollins ended up in the chamber match to begin with, i would’ve been shocked to see them pull that again. No, Reigns coronation seems to be the only way it’s gonna be this year. I’m sure the more deserving like Strowman, Miz, or Rollins will end up in the Andre battle royal or a mixed tag match(Facebook exclusive pre-show).

Rollins doing the AA was pretty cool!

They heated him up so much, and have dropped a few allusions to Reigns' resentment of the MITB cash-in. Turning the rematch narrative into a three-way grudge could've worked. I don't love a three-way title match at Mania, but if Rollins kept hot it could've at least injected something a little less expected, and more interesting, to Reigns/Lesnar. I don't really like Rollins in the IC match, either.

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DetoxPosted: 03/20/2018 10:04 PMStatus ::


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Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
Detox Wrote:
Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
Anybody catch the 1hr 40m gauntlet match on RAW this week? Pretty nice change of pace.


Absolutely. Rollins came out of that one looking like a million bucks. I legit marked out when he pulled off Cena’s AA spot.



Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
Was hoping for something wacky in the CHamber, like a Rollins/Reigns double-pin finish. Something to at least spice up Reigns/Lesnar at Mania. No such luck.




Eh, considering that’s how Rollins ended up in the chamber match to begin with, i would’ve been shocked to see them pull that again. No, Reigns coronation seems to be the only way it’s gonna be this year. I’m sure the more deserving like Strowman, Miz, or Rollins will end up in the Andre battle royal or a mixed tag match(Facebook exclusive pre-show).


Rollins doing the AA was pretty cool!



They heated him up so much, and have dropped a few allusions to Reigns' resentment of the MITB cash-in. Turning the rematch narrative into a three-way grudge could've worked. I don't love a three-way title match at Mania, but if Rollins kept hot it could've at least injected something a little less expected, and more interesting, to Reigns/Lesnar. I don't really like Rollins in the IC match, either.


Agreed. Rollins should’ve absolutely been fast tracked to the main event after the last few weeks. It’s maddening to watch wwe’s failure to capitalize on hot turns like this one.

Thoughts on “The Ultimate Deletion”? Maybe not as great as the original, but quirky enough to maintain that “Broken” charm. I was surprised by the mind games with Bray. Nice touch to help set it apart.

I’m kind of interested to see where Bray goes now that he’s been thrown in the lake of reincarnation. I say “kind of” because I’m pretty sure unless it was the writing staff that got thrown the lake, they’ll probably just find a way to fuck him up again. As I’ve said in the past, Bray’s always worked his ass off to try to make whatever b.s. they hand him work. I’ll always be a fan, but I doubt he ever finds himself in a position of being used to his maximum potential.


Also...THE FUCKING DRAGON LIVES!!! The absolute last headline I expected to read today. Holy shit. Wrestlemania may have just become must watch.

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Mick-LuciferPosted: 03/20/2018 10:07 PMStatus ::


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- Daniel Bryan medically cleared to return to in-ring action

Following more than two years of extensive evaluations, four-time World Champion Daniel Bryan has been medically cleared to return to in-ring competition by leading neurosurgeons, neurologists and concussion experts, including Dr. Robert Cantu, Dr. Javier Cárdenas and Dr. Jeffrey Kutcher.

Bryan underwent a full review of his medical history and received comprehensive neurological and physical evaluations independent of WWE. He was cleared by each doctor as well as WWE’s Medical Director, Dr. Joseph Maroon.


BOOM!

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Mick-LuciferPosted: 04/04/2018 01:08 AMStatus ::


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Detox Wrote:
Thoughts on “The Ultimate Deletion”? Maybe not as great as the original, but quirky enough to maintain that “Broken” charm. I was surprised by the mind games with Bray. Nice touch to help set it apart.

I’m kind of interested to see where Bray goes now that he’s been thrown in the lake of reincarnation. I say “kind of” because I’m pretty sure unless it was the writing staff that got thrown the lake, they’ll probably just find a way to fuck him up again. As I’ve said in the past, Bray’s always worked his ass off to try to make whatever b.s. they hand him work. I’ll always be a fan, but I doubt he ever finds himself in a position of being used to his maximum potential.

I usually watch the 1hr edit of RAW, so I was sad to see the Ultimate Deletion wasn't included for that ep. I got the impression it was a good introductory episode, kinda like the early ones in TNA. Would be nice to see them revisit it with escalating antics. Some solid WWE cameos would be nice. (Things that don't make the 1hr cut usually don't have priority, so that might be saying something).

Bray into the lake of reincarnation seems like the most obvious way to bring back the unused Sister Abigail persona. Could be a good injection into the Battle Royal, but I dunno. Bray is the one who is truly BROKEN.

Detox Wrote:
Also...THE FUCKING DRAGON LIVES!!! The absolute last headline I expected to read today. Holy shit. Wrestlemania may have just become must watch.

Yeeesssss. Been one of the biggest elephants in the room during all that Owens/Zayn stuff. This seemed like the best outcome... Until Shane got diverticulitis and a herniated belly button, or whatever it is. What kind of crazy world is it where Danielson's a lock, but Shane is the one in doubt!?

Couldn't believe the way they went from 0 to 100 after Danielson made the announcement, too! Maybe a little too much. Save some sauce for Mania, dude. Seems like a good sign that he's good to go, though. Wondering what happens beyond this point. Title potential? Would not be upset to see him get the good run with the title he missed out on. Could be a much needed boost to the Smackdown title situation, too. I guess he doesn't really need it, though. And I'm sure they'll do a 'Roster Shake-Up'.

The big Mania question: WHO IS BRAUN STROWMAN'S MYSTERY PARTNER?

It's WWE, so naturally I expected Big Show or Kane - even though they are Braun's mortal nemeses. Does Jeff Hardy have enough beef with The Bar for that team-up to make sense? I don't think Samoa Joe is right for it. Hulk Hogan was spotted talking to HHH at the HBO Andre event, but he still stinks. I know this is leading to disappointment, but I'm genuinely intrigued.

It's actually a really solid card top to bottom. The last few Manias feel like they've improved from the doldrums of the 00s and early 10s. Build has been hit and miss, but I dig it.

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[Killswitch]Posted: 04/04/2018 01:06 PMStatus ::


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I want Braun's partner to be Elias.

Shao Kahn did nothing wrong
Mick-LuciferPosted: 04/10/2018 01:57 AMStatus ::


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Tag titles vacated on RAW. Sick of these god damn part-timers coming in for Wrestlemania, getting a cheap pop for a belt, then refusing to work the schedule. Hope you're real proud of yourself for taking a spot, Nicholas.



It had its wonky moments, but I thought Mania was pretty good overall. Continuing a trend of an upswing over the last few years.

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