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kilerb
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09/22/2005 12:51 AM (UTC)
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Seiden, you're dealing with the human calculator Red Saleen here. He builds his own arcade sticks, talks in codes i don't even understand, and is making a video about all the free throws in a 1 year old game. You're not going to get him to understand something that has emotions, opinions, or things that "seem questionable." It has to be yes or no with him. To be honest, i just want to have fun and play in a tournament. I could care less what the rules are as long as there aren't infiniites, semi's, or starting before the round. it's these tech-heads like him that are going to try and pull everything out that they can. Something tells me he's one of a very few that really care about these little glitches that you wouldn't even know unless you programmed it or studied it like a bible.
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redsaleen02
09/22/2005 01:29 AM (UTC)
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but u can still f3 throw, walk up pause and f3 or throw again. if bo gets right in ur face after the throw, the f3 is blockable, so u can chesse him that way, plaus with the walk up step back puke mixed in, he has plenty with the b1 glitch.
honestly idk who i will be using, prob a mix of ermac, n/s nightwolf, bo, dariou, jinko, ash and hotaru.
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"Tell me what it's like, to be half a man! It must break your heart... to see what I am!"
09/22/2005 02:06 AM (UTC)
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Listen, I just have a question about this.
Its no secret that I'm a Noob-Smoke player. My question is this. I'm going to list a hypothetical situation below, where let's just say that I guess EVERYTHING correctly, andc I guess correctly EVERYTHING how my opponent blocks. Below is the combo I get off, with Smoke.
Throw, Telecut, Stars, B+1.
I then JUMP IN without a kick, and land. My opponent blocks high. I do this:
Throw, Telecut, Stars, D+1, B+1.
I then JUMP IN without a kick, and land. My opponent blocks high. I do this:
Throw, Telecut, Stars, D+1, B+1
I then JUMP IN without a kick, and land. My opponent blocks low. I do this:
U+4, B+1
I then JUMP IN without a kick, and land. My opponent blocks low. I do this:
U+4, Stars, B+1
Thats BASIC 50/50 using a basic, regular jump in with Noob-Smoke, correct? Its not broken, its actually pretty legit. NOW, lets just say I do this:.
Throw, Telecut, Stars, B+1.
I then JUMP IN without a kick, and land. My opponent blocks high. I do this:
Throw, Telecut, Stars, D+1, B+1.SS, Throw, Telecut, B+1
Is this fair, and legit, according to everyone here? Would that be allowed?
Get back to me, I'm very curious to see how this works, because above, there are TWO throws used in the combo, but only ONE of them is a FREE throw.
Get back to me, I'm curious to see how you all view this.
-DooM
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redsaleen02
09/22/2005 02:12 AM (UTC)
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lol, doom, u can go throw, telecut, stars, d1, b1, jump in 50/50 land either one, d1 , b1 ss throw, telecut, stars , d1 , b1 game over u guess wrong once. LEGIT
but i cant b1 after a fucking throw with brc, see what im saying about the gay loop holes in the rules. fu im b1 ing after a free throw.
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09/22/2005 02:35 AM (UTC)
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Ladies and Gentlemen... I have randomly selected the tournament schedule.

Click Here to see who you'll be fighting with at level 1...
(Make sure you enlarge it so you can read it. With 32 guys I had to make the print pretty small.


Click Here to see the official name pulling from the official pimp hat...

Yep, sped it up... Hope you all can keep up and understand.

You know this is random, because you know if I was cheating I would never in a million years put myself in a situation where i'd be fighting BNR in the 2nd level assuming I made it there!


Saleen and Doomsday... We're playing it as Quik described up above. Is what you're asking following those rules? It's a yes or a no... If you do anything illegal, your opponent is going to the next level. Just keep it legit as per the rules listed above, including Quik's.

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CaliburKid
09/22/2005 03:07 AM (UTC)
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Good job on the organizing of this sh*t...
Lot of interesting match-ups...
grin
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frozen-sub
09/22/2005 03:22 AM (UTC)
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watching that video of the drawings was so lame i chould write a chapter on how much of a loser that makes you look like i laughed a llot threw watching it very funn biggest loser in awhile i have encountered
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09/22/2005 03:48 AM (UTC)
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frozen-sub Wrote:
watching that video of the drawings was so lame i chould write a chapter on how much of a loser that makes you look like i laughed a llot threw watching it very funn biggest loser in awhile i have encountered

Ummm yeah, it was meant to be corny. Hopefully when you write that chapter you'll use a period or 2. LOL... Too bad you're not in the tournament, I bet you would've done really well, hater. grin
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frozen-sub
09/22/2005 03:58 AM (UTC)
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don't get me wrong i love the game if fact its the only game i play for xbox live lol but i also feel strongly about not looking a a really big loser like that was reat let me tell ya and why do you have to sped the viedoes your record timesx2 very lame learn to do it right
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09/22/2005 04:12 AM (UTC)
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There's nothing to learn... There's actually another step involved to make it faster, so I could've stopped before that and left it alone. But, like you, I thought it was pretty corny and didn't think you wanted to watch us picking names for 10 minutes, so i sped it up. Anyway, stop trying to annoy people and tell everyone what a moron you think I am on another thread if you must. This one is for people that are in the tournament. Sorry you didn't want to be in it and that the video was so painful for ya... wink
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frozen-sub
09/22/2005 04:23 AM (UTC)
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i chouldnt possably fathem the level of gayness you displayed in that video with yoru hoe? or was it yoru hoe wife? either way i was mainly referiing to your 1 match i saw recorded which was made faster to make you look better post it at normal speed
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09/22/2005 04:26 AM (UTC)
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egypt torment whats you live s/n....mine is doohoo
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Pighut
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09/22/2005 05:02 AM (UTC)
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Killer b, I loved how you did the video for the drawing. Funny thing is , is that on my computer, the video came up 3x as fast so you and your wife sounded like chipmunks...pretty awesome. You sound like you've been snorting helium for a year. Anyway major props on the video, organization.
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B0bbYBLaZe
09/22/2005 05:35 AM (UTC)
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killer b, put the great bobby blaze in this tourament +IMMEDIATLY+...fuckin fools. were going round4round now bitchez...
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NeMeSiS-Gerchap
09/22/2005 05:40 AM (UTC)
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hey Killer B nice
man congratulations I like the way u did it bro so I have a hard oponnent is you my friend so good luck and wish me luck too ... lol
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09/22/2005 05:41 AM (UTC)
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frozen-sub Wrote:
i chouldnt possably fathem the level of gayness you displayed in that video with yoru hoe? or was it yoru hoe wife? either way i was mainly referiing to your 1 match i saw recorded which was made faster to make you look better post it at normal speed

Wow, at first I figured you must be Yayo with your passionate hate for sped up video, but he's literate. Here's a little lesson for you. It's couldn't not chouldnt. It's possibly not possably. It's fathom not fathem. I would have thought you would at least know how to spell "your" but since you spelt it "yoro" twice, I think you really have some sort of learning disability. Either that or you're just a huge fan of Goro. If you're going to use slang, go for it, but it's "ho." A hoe is a garden tool. Referring would be spelt like with 1 R and 2 i's. If you're referring to the match that I sped up, why don't you find that post and comment on it there. You have 32 guys here that are trying to have some competitive fun and your negativity is just bringing it down. Also, if you think I sped it up to make myself look better, that doesn't make much sense because my opponent was sped up too. As a matter of fact I sped up the matches I had with BNR and got my ass whooped. I'm sure I looked great on that one! grin This must be someone we all know posing with another screen name. If it's not he's seriously got a HUGE hating problem if he's going out of his way this much over a stranger... LOL

By the way, thanks Pig and Gerchap... Good luck to you guys!

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frozen-sub
09/22/2005 06:07 AM (UTC)
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sorry man serioulsy i have a brain hemerage simply tasks are hard for me to complete
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The Noob is the best!!!!!!

PS2 handle: Noobe

XBOX: Noobed

PS3: Sentinelsforce

Noobe: Its just a matter of time

09/22/2005 02:55 PM (UTC)
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Look you morons why are u making it hard with retarded as questions.
Yes you can combo after a throw. COMBO not a an unblockable jumping attack that leads to another throw. Damn its not hard at all shut up and read.
Unblreakble combos should be allowed as long as they end. Now if u do for instance N/S unbreakable combos and u go for Side Step Grab then thats considered a partial Infinite/Infinite if u repeat it more than once.
If u do a hit that leads to a free throw when the opponent can block the hit then he gets whats coming to him afterwards for getting hit thats his fault that is compleletey legal.
Example: F3 with BRC free grab legal but very annoying theres a difference. Just because its annoying doesnt mean that its illiegal. Any combo after the grab whether its a three hit or the F3 after the grab is fine. Even if u pause the after the grab and turn it into a 50/50 head game its all legal. You have a chance to escape 50/50 head games if u get caught then make a better guess next time.
Fee grabs to another free grab is illegal. Thats what u call an unbreakable infinite. Best example Ashrah grab jumps over the opponent and grabs the opponent as they are turning around before they can do anything is an infinite. Whether u can break it or not its an infinite repeating the samething over and over whether its one hit or a combo with the opponent being able to do nothing but sit and watch is an infinite. And infinites are banned so they are illegal.
Have some sense before u ask lame and retarded questions. let me dumb it down for whoever doesnt understand what i just said.
Hit, Free Grab= Legal (As long as u dont Side Step Grab)
Hit, Free grab, Jump over the opponent grab= Illegal )Partial Infinite)
Plant move (example B1 with smoke) Walk up Side Step grab is another example of partial infinites.Side Step grab arent allowed because they can be repeated over and over without the opponent being able to do anything about it.
Hit to free grab isnt an infinite. Why u ask because u have to get by the attack. And in most cases u cant repeat it with the opponent having no chance of getting out of it or only using breakers.
50/50 head games arent infinites or partail infinites. If u can move, block, crouch or throw an attack. Then thats a 50/50 head game meaning there as much of a chance of u blocking the attacking or the opponent landing an attack. If u cant figure it out and block the attack then thats ur problem doesnt make it cheap. Just annoying to you. Some of u need to realize the difference between that.
As far as i see ive pretty much answered all ur questions this should make it clear as to whats legal. Whats an infinite, partial infinte, or a combo. Theres a difference between all of them. If u dont get it from this then i dont know what to tell u then peaceout.
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The Noob is the best!!!!!!

PS2 handle: Noobe

XBOX: Noobed

PS3: Sentinelsforce

Noobe: Its just a matter of time

09/22/2005 03:09 PM (UTC)
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I like that bracket design killerb looks good. But i have a question u never specified how the elimination in the tournament is going to be. Whether its going to be a 2 out of 3 match, Semi finals 3 out of 5, and Finals 4 out of 7? Whether its double elimination and ur out of the tournament or what? if its a point accumulation tourney thats fine. But u still havent said how the matches are going to be or maybe i missed it.
I also need to know is TURBO360 is the guys name on the forum or on live?
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redsaleen02
09/22/2005 03:47 PM (UTC)
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noob i agree with u 100%, but according to there rules, if i b1 or f3 after a throw, I LOSE.
ashra if i b2, throw, jump in with a punch i lose, even if i follow the punch with b2 or u4 I LOSE
or if they hav breakers and i throw, u4, jump over throw, cs f1, db1, c4+cs on impact I LOSE
and this is all legit 50/50 crap
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5MOKE_LK
09/22/2005 04:01 PM (UTC)
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B0bbYBLaZe Wrote:
killer b, put the great bobby blaze in this tourament +IMMEDIATLY+...fuckin fools. were going round4round now bitchez...

Hey Kiler B you can take my name off man and put bobby blaze name on he would do better then i would. BTW killer nice job and good work wit the turney lataz
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09/22/2005 04:53 PM (UTC)
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redsaleen02 Wrote:
noob i agree with u 100%, but according to there rules, if i b1 or f3 after a throw, I LOSE.
and this is all legit 50/50 crap

Wrong, all of it isn't 50/50. Incase you didn't know, if you f+3 after a throw, it is a glitch, not 50/50. And especially if you b+1, that sets up for a "not so damaging" weapon style glitch combo.
I could care less if you do these things or not, but I just thought it was quite ridiculous when you said it was fair to do two unbreakable combos with N/S in the same sequence.
one unbreakable "which is cool," ss throw, another unbreakable. What are you trying to prove?
BUT HEY??? Do as you please, I figure your opponent must be good enough to escape those kinds of traps by now so.... as you wish. I guess that would be up to Killer.
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redsaleen02
09/22/2005 06:34 PM (UTC)
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like i said his rules hav loop holes, if i throw with kobra and follow it with a fireball U LOSE. u cant 50/50 with kang cause if u walk up and throw after a throw, thats a semi infinite.
as far as the n/s thing it goes by how far u take it if u land a standing b1 plant with nothing before it, i say ss throw into unbreakable is legit. throw, telecut, stars , d1, b1, ss throw, throw telecut, stars d1 b1 is a lil steep. but how is that differnt than if u hav no breakers left. i land 111cs44 throw with jinko im allowed to follow the combos with another 50% so like i said whats really legit. 1 free throw is 1 free throw no matter how u use.
any combo , plus a free throw , followed by any combo is how the rule is stated and how i will read it and use it.
and noone can answer my question with sometype a reason to back it up.
a free throw is a glitch, TRUE
why can i combo after a free throw say with ashra, jinko, hotaru. but i cant hit u after a throw with brc. ur reason was the others are breakable ... b1 and f3 are breakable too.
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09/22/2005 06:36 PM (UTC)
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Why do you losers need free hits and free throws anyway?
If you need them to win then you suck, sorry.
Next thing I know you guys are going want to use a game genie.
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redsaleen02
09/22/2005 06:43 PM (UTC)
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why should i hold back to something that has become part of the gamplay, just cause u dont use them. skill is useing everything in the games fighting engine to win. its like saying dont use crossover attacks in mk3.
u can call it glitchs, idk, do u auto track?? ummmmmmmm yeah u do, u use a glitch so ur a scrub.
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