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Konqrr
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09/23/2005 03:11 AM (UTC)
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SentinelsForce Wrote:Oh man look if u combo after the throw with brc that should be very legal its a combo after a throw just like darrius grab into combo. Glitch combo whatever u want to call it its a combo. Same as Noob throwing u into the corner into his corner combo no difference.
Now ashrah grab jump in punch thats illegal. Thats the start of her infinite and and u cant block her jump in attack after her throw. I know for a fact u cant block her jump in punch or even break it. But her kick can be broken either way its a partial infinite. One of the biggest examples of how fucked the game is when u cant block a jump in attack.

WTF? So you can hit after Darrius' throw (which leads to HIS infinite) and you can hit after Bo's throw (which leads to HIS infinite), but you CAN'T get your free hit after Ashrah's throw (which does 1% unlike the other two that do WAY more)??? Are you serious?
The Ashrah jump punch after throw is all part of her mind game, just because it CAN lead to her infinite combo, doesn't mean that is what is going to happen...it forces your opponent to stand and block your 50/50 mixup...they MUST block high to avoid most of the attacks you throw out after the jump punch hits. But if you don't block a hit that guarantees a free throw, then you are in the whole mess again...same as that Noob-Smoke shit (which leads to their infinites).
Just say one throw per combo and that's all you have to do.
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frozen-sub
09/23/2005 03:20 AM (UTC)
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or just 5 throws total like i susgted which is better
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Raidenwins
09/23/2005 03:29 AM (UTC)
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omg, i am not going to read through 200 posts just to figure out what the rules are. KillerB, just answer me one question:
Is it legal to follow Bo's F3+throw wth B+1 and then follow that up with a D+2 or 2, 4, 4, U+3?
That's all i want to know. All my other tactics are indisputably legal. I am just not sure about this one.
Any RedSaleen, yes, you are so right! It will definitely be a free throw fest when you and i face off. LOL, i can't wait.
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09/23/2005 03:44 AM (UTC)
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Anything but infinites or partial infinites (Something that can be repeated over and over until you die because you're out of breakers... I think this is the only way to eliminate grey areas... Agreed?
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redsaleen02
09/23/2005 04:22 AM (UTC)
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wow, u hav to be a lil more clearer than that, since everyone takes those 2 words to about 10 different opinions.
i say the 1 throw per combo rule works for me... and that throw be linked with anything, long as its not another throw.
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09/23/2005 04:42 AM (UTC)
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saleen: no free hits and 1 throw per combo.
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09/23/2005 04:51 AM (UTC)
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raidenwins + redsaleen: What i'm thinking is it doesn't matter who out of you two wins, I'm going to have to deal with free throw hell which shouldn't be the case. it Doesn't make you the better fighter winning with free throws, you can disagree with me all you want but it's fact. I mean think about these rules, people are bitching that you can take advantage of the glitches to a certain point.
Saleen says theres an understood free throw rule which means theres an understood glitch rule. A glitch is a fucking glitch, don't use it...it makes you look weak. A fair tournament would consist of no free throws/hits/infinites/partials. What can you say that justifies that using free throws and such is an example of fair play? Do you play with bumpers when you bowl? When you were growing up did you and your friends have a rule, when playing kickball (or something), that you get one free out?
Not exactly the same but you get my point you're just to much of a puss to admit it and play the game the way it was intended to be played.
(Most of this is written to saleen, just the first sentence or two to you raidenwins :) )
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redsaleen02
09/23/2005 05:12 AM (UTC)
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actually in a real nationwide tourn, free throws would not be banned, just limited.
this is directed 100% at pig.
RESPECT THE FREE THROW
cause ya gonna hav to face them. ps with raiden wins u will only hav to face the bo and raiden free throws. with me u will hav to face
bo, dariou, ermac, ashra, jinko, kobra, hotaru , noobjoke and nightwolf free throws, and maybe some hell fires
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09/23/2005 05:26 AM (UTC)
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When it comes down to it, I know who is better.
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j4ug2gal0o
09/23/2005 05:50 AM (UTC)
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hey has this shit started yet hope not cuz i want in 4 sure sign me up killa ..................im down 4 any rules just dont wanna here no cryin or violins playin.....play u blazin ....420 ....
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09/23/2005 05:52 AM (UTC)
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killer, you could add this guy and that other guy who claims he could give an easy win.
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09/23/2005 06:49 AM (UTC)
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If anyone flakes out I will, but anymore than 32 and it won't work out. Check out the chart.
Saleen, there's nothing i can say that you can't come back with "But what if I D2F3F1U2 throw F1D2F333D11... Or something like this. There are 32 people in this tournament and I knew you'd be the little sniveling detail freak. Dude, just don't infinite someone.
Here it is... No infinites, semis, and 1 throw per combo. Done... If your little smoke cloud combo isn't included than do it. Just play dude and have some fun. My god...
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BNR-CAZOPANIC
09/23/2005 08:35 AM (UTC)
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LOOK... I say anything goes.
Anything but Infinite combos and partial infinite combos.
If I have 75% life left with no breakers, and you put me into one combo, ss freegrab, and put me into another that either kills me, or leaves me with 5% health.
That type of shit should not be allowed either. So if it's done to me, I'm going to turn into the biggest, cheapest freethrowing ass player in MK history. (Without using infinites)
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09/23/2005 12:32 PM (UTC)
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Konqrr Wrote:
SentinelsForce Wrote:Oh man look if u combo after the throw with brc that should be very legal its a combo after a throw just like darrius grab into combo. Glitch combo whatever u want to call it its a combo. Same as Noob throwing u into the corner into his corner combo no difference.
Now ashrah grab jump in punch thats illegal. Thats the start of her infinite and and u cant block her jump in attack after her throw. I know for a fact u cant block her jump in punch or even break it. But her kick can be broken either way its a partial infinite. One of the biggest examples of how fucked the game is when u cant block a jump in attack.

WTF? So you can hit after Darrius' throw (which leads to HIS infinite) and you can hit after Bo's throw (which leads to HIS infinite), but you CAN'T get your free hit after Ashrah's throw (which does 1% unlike the other two that do WAY more)??? Are you serious?
The Ashrah jump punch after throw is all part of her mind game, just because it CAN lead to her infinite combo, doesn't mean that is what is going to happen...it forces your opponent to stand and block your 50/50 mixup...they MUST block high to avoid most of the attacks you throw out after the jump punch hits. But if you don't block a hit that guarantees a free throw, then you are in the whole mess again...same as that Noob-Smoke shit (which leads to their infinites).
Just say one throw per combo and that's all you have to do.

What i meant to say there was grab jump free attack grab again.
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Raidenwins
09/23/2005 03:12 PM (UTC)
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kilerb Wrote:
Anything but infinites or partial infinites (Something that can be repeated over and over until you die because you're out of breakers... I think this is the only way to eliminate grey areas... Agreed?

That works for me.
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frozen-sub
09/23/2005 03:34 PM (UTC)
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5 throws total, you guys are gonan crash and burn this simply will NOT work unless you follow my method and i will be right here to say i told you so when it happens unless to take my awsome suggestion 5 throws max
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09/23/2005 04:41 PM (UTC)
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The one free throw per combo is good but some characters are more advantageous(sorry for mispelled word) than others. I for one dont like to use breakers in the first round so when I face Shu, that means I have to take the 111cs44...ss..free throw.ect. isnt this a partial infinite. Breakers or no breakers it is a partial infinite. I am fine with this since than I can use it also. If this is allowed along with Ermacs unbreakable axe than there shouldnt be any reason to ban hits after a free throw with Bo or Darrius. Corner combos should also be legit but I as a player wont use them.
I say only one throw per combo to. If you take a throw from the start than you cant take a free throw after you plant them cause you used your throw already. However if you start off with a combo thats stuns or plants , than you can take a free throw and combo off of it. I dont like this idea but its the only way to even the fight.
Also Darrius should be banned cause hes just a retarted character, along with a Dairou using distance game. Theres no need for them and I think were all better than that. Sorry MKF thats just how I feel.
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09/23/2005 05:47 PM (UTC)
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111cs44, throw with shujinko is a free throw man. you don't need a sidestep at all. you can just take a free throw after the last 4. it's not anywhere NEAR being an infinite. and as for ss throws, i'm taking them after a teleslam. enough said. and good games noobed =) lol
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09/23/2005 06:06 PM (UTC)
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stretchshrimp Wrote:Also Darrius should be banned cause hes just a retarted character

LOL!!!!!!! Were not being a little discriminatory are we?
Look, people... The only way you can set rules that would cover what qualifies as acceptable is to determine the rules for EACH CHARACTER. And still, people will disagree about them. This game is not worth the effort in arguing over these questions.
I think its great that we have 32 ( or whatever # of ) players, but I Predict this aint gonna be finished before december possibly next year. not that i hope it takes that long, but i've hosted tournaments online in the past and seen this shit dragged the fuck out!
Doomsday, i sent you a pm
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09/23/2005 06:28 PM (UTC)
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MrSchpfmut Wrote:
This game is not worth the effort in arguing over these questions.

I have posted almost those exact words many a time on these boards and yet no one listens.
The game isn't worth the effort you all spend arguing over it. If you like wasting your time, carry on. Just do so in a civilised manner.
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Maverick3176
09/23/2005 07:24 PM (UTC)
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God bless KillerB's patience....my hat is off to you man for dealing with all this non-sense....i will just say that good players will play under any rules and dont care what is left that they cant do.....good players will use whatever options they have to win....and dont rely on one....if u r good then if you think its might not be within the rules ... dont do it....if u r good it will not matter.....of course i am not complaining cuz i will lose to alexi in the firest round
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mkflegend
09/23/2005 11:39 PM (UTC)
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Great job kiler b, man thats why you're my right hand man man, lol.
Anyway, was that you??LOL, like the humor man, you're so much more serious when online, isn't everyone?? LOL
Anyway, nobody mentioned that hot girl in the video!!!?? WOW
No disrespect kiler b, but girlfriend or sister??either way, she's a cute girl, very down to earth i bet lol.
Anyway, ok, so i face this guy named mkJRF, lol, it's funny because he and i have always wanted to face another.I believe we faced off when the game first came out, but i'm not sure.This tourney will be fun!!
Wonder is mkJRF is as siked as i am.A little anxious because i don't believe i faced him ever before.I know he's good though.
Also, kiler how are you eliminated??First person to lose 7 matches twice??Am i right?
Let me know man, thanks.Once again, great job man.
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09/23/2005 11:51 PM (UTC)
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MKF... Just once, first to 7 wins moves on... Maybe we'll do double elimination next time. I just want to actually see this thing work, and the easier the better.
That's my g/f, yes she's very down to earth and cool. LOL, yeah I'm usually more serious on here cause I'm constantly arguing with all the weirdos for some reason... Although when I changed Blaze's sig that was a classic moment in MKO history! (Yes Yayo's revenge was amazing too...) grin Oh by the way, check out the GG thread above, I want to play again ASAP!
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mkflegend
09/24/2005 12:24 AM (UTC)
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You're a lucky bastard you know that kiler b LOL!!!!!!!!
As for your rematch, hehehehehe, find me in the tourney hehehe, i'm sure you get pretty far.(i hope i do)grin
Read my GG's post, i responded!!smile
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09/24/2005 12:27 AM (UTC)
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Killer B, Give her my number. You know, once you try CRK, you never go back tongue
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