Are Jax & Kitana the biggest staples after the fantastic four?
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Are Jax & Kitana the biggest staples after the fantastic four?
02/18/2015 09:44 PM EST
Now Scorpion, Sub-Zero and Raiden are definitely the biggest saples in the series (Scorpion missed vanilla MK3 but was back in ultimate, as did Raiden in Trilogy, but they were never absent in any other mainline title) and Sub-Zero has yet to miss a game.

Liu Kang is 4th, the only game he missed was Deadly Alliance qhich was a bold move and a huge deal back in the day, he is still one of the most popular and recognizable icons in the series.

But then there's Jax & Kitana, they are, aside from the first 3 characters i mentioned, the only characters that have been in every sub-series since their debut (sub-series as in, Kitana was absent in vanilla MK3, MK4 and Deception, but was added in the Ultimate editions of said games, while Jax only missed Deception but was also back in Unchained.

What's your opinion?

PS: Please realize that being a staple has nothing to do with how much you like or dislike a character, so avoid bringing your unnecessary and undeserved Jax hate over here, thanks.
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02/18/2015 09:47 PM EST
Fuck no, not jax....Jax solely exists to cater to the PC crowd of having a black guy there!

kitana, eh, she shoulda stayed dead... |

I dont think anyone is hype for jax to return, infact, I think the vibe is disappointment
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02/18/2015 09:48 PM EST
akuaaron Wrote:
Fuck no, not jax....Jax solely exists to cater to the PC crowd of having a black guy there!

kitana, eh, she shoulda stayed dead... |

I dont think anyone is hype for jax to return, infact, I think the vibe is disappointment


Smh... Please learn to read the thread next time.
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02/18/2015 09:51 PM EST
Um, Cage, Sonya, Reptile, Mileena, Kung Lao, Kano, Shang Tsung etc. They only missed the odd games. They are all "staples" if you ask me.

And I don't even count Deception since the whole point of the game was to skip on the classics in order to give secondary characters another chance. Not sure why you're singling out Jax and Kitana.
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02/18/2015 09:53 PM EST
I'd argue that Sonya is far more of a staple than Jax. Kitana being one is pretty accurate since if I'm not mistaken she's actually the most popular female character.

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02/18/2015 09:54 PM EST
From-ear-to-ear Wrote:
Um, Cage, Sonya, Reptile, Mileena, Kung Lao, Kano, Shang Tsung etc. They only missed the odd games. They are all "staples" if you ask me.

And I don't even count Deception since the whole point of the game was to skip on the classics in order to give secondary characters another chance. Not sure why you're singling out Jax and Kitana.


Ummm... Maybe because Jax and Kitana were playable in Unchained, qhile the rest from Deadly Alliance weren't?

And VS DC Universe is recent, yet Cage, Reptile, Mileena and Kung Lao were not even mentioned there, so what's your point again?
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02/18/2015 09:56 PM EST
The_Truth Wrote:
I'd argue that Sonya is far more of a staple than Jax. Kitana being one is pretty accurate since if I'm not mistaken she's actually the most popular female character.


Sonya could be more popular, more iconic or whatever but we have no source to prove that. Jax being a go-to character every entry (even more so than Kitana, who is also a staple) is evident.
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02/18/2015 10:09 PM EST
out of the hundreds or thousands of games of played of mk9, mk2-deception

jx was selected by people against me like 3 times, 0 by me...
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02/18/2015 10:14 PM EST
I'm waiting for Jax to go a-wall on the Special Forces. This because he would make a bad guy. Something goes wrong with his cybernetics and just fucks everyone up, lol.
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02/18/2015 10:15 PM EST
Jax and Kitana are far from being staples, imo. And I wouldn't think MK has a fantastic 4, especially now, it seems to be Scorpion then, to a lesser degree Sub, then everyone else.
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02/18/2015 10:17 PM EST
akuaaron Wrote:
out of the hundreds or thousands of games of played of mk9, mk2-deception

jx was selected by people against me like 3 times, 0 by me...


Which has nothing to do with the topic sleep
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02/18/2015 10:21 PM EST
I'd argue that the most recognizable Mortal Kombat characters are...

1. Scorpion
2. Sub-Zero
3. Raiden
4. Kano
5. Sonya
6. Johnny
7. Goro
8. Liu Kang
9. Kitana
10. Mileena

Jax comes somewhere around 13 - 15.
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02/18/2015 10:22 PM EST
diirecthit Wrote:
akuaaron Wrote:
out of the hundreds or thousands of games of played of mk9, mk2-deception

jx was selected by people against me like 3 times, 0 by me...


Which has nothing to do with the topic sleep

So to stay in topic we have to agree with you?
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02/18/2015 10:24 PM EST
Any MK fan will tell you Sub-Zero, Scorpion, their personal favorite etc. are the most iconic of the franchise. But to get the real answer, you'd have to do a survey with people who are unfamiliar or vaguely know the games.

"Oh, the guy who freezes people!"

"The guy who throws the thing and yells 'Come here!'"

"The guy who throws lightning!"

"The guy with the four arms, Gorok or something!?"

"The guy who does the splits and punches the guys in the balls!"

Even if they don't know exactly who they are, these are the characters that come to mind. THOSE are the characters that stand out.

For me, I think the most iconic characters would be from the MK1-2 era.

Sub-Zero, Scorpion, Raiden, Kano, Johnny Cage and Goro are the ones that come to mind for me.
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02/18/2015 10:24 PM EST
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Jax and Kitana are far from being staples, imo. And I wouldn't think MK has a fantastic 4, especially now, it seems to be Scorpion then, to a lesser degree Sub, then everyone else.


Jax and Kitana have been in every game (counting vanilla and ultimate editions as one) since they debuted in MK2, i think they are pretty much staples and no other character has done it, aside from Scorpion, Sub-Zero and Raiden. But that's just my opinion.
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02/18/2015 10:26 PM EST
Denizen Wrote:
diirecthit Wrote:
akuaaron Wrote:
out of the hundreds or thousands of games of played of mk9, mk2-deception

jx was selected by people against me like 3 times, 0 by me...


Which has nothing to do with the topic sleep

So to stay in topic we have to agree with you?


Umm no, but you can read the OP. How many times he has fought Jax has nothing to do with him being put in every game since his debut, surely you can understand that.
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02/18/2015 10:28 PM EST
I kinda have to agree that Scorp, Sub, Raiden and Liu Kang are the Big 4 of MK.

I'd consider Cage, Sonya, Kano, Reptile, Kung Lao, Kitana, Mileena and Jax staples.

Baraka, Quan Chi, Shang Tsung, Cyrax and Ermac are always welcomed additions.

Everyone else, Boon can throw in the trash bin without massive retaliation (Except on this site of course)


Not counting bosses and Sub bosses.
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02/18/2015 10:31 PM EST
Sub-Zero (depending the incarnation) is the only character to appear in pretty much every single MK game (except Special Forces)

MK1
MK2
MK3
MK:U/T
MK: Mythologies
MK4/Gold
MK:DA
MK: Deception
MK:Shaolin Monks
MK: Armageddon
MK2011
and now MKX
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02/18/2015 10:38 PM EST
diirecthit Wrote:
Denizen Wrote:
Jax and Kitana are far from being staples, imo. And I wouldn't think MK has a fantastic 4, especially now, it seems to be Scorpion then, to a lesser degree Sub, then everyone else.


Jax and Kitana have been in every game (counting vanilla and ultimate editions as one) since they debuted in MK2, i think they are pretty much staples and no other character has done it, aside from Scorpion, Sub-Zero and Raiden. But that's just my opinion.

Of course it is your opinion, the number of times a character has been playable it is a fact, saying that this fact implies relevancy is arguable, it depends on the impact a character has in the overall popularity of the franchise, rarely too many characters, specially in MK which has such a dynamic roster, are able to reach this status. a staple is a character that's instantly recognized and associated with a particular brand, his or her presence can have a significant impact on the sales. Jax and Kitana, although very popular, are characters that can be absent from a mortal kombat and it will still sell well and get recognized by the fans, Raiden and Lui Kang are a similar case. Scorpion and Sub-Zero on the other hand, are characters we are going to be seen almost always since they are the characters the majority of fans and casuals will look for first in every MK title.
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02/21/2015 10:35 AM EST
In my opinion, Jax is a staple character largely because NRS wants him to be, and the majority doesn't reject that, either because it doesn't strongly love him nor hate him, or because it's been influenced by NRS to view him as a core character.

Kitana is definitely a staple character because of her popularity.
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02/23/2015 12:53 AM EST
Kitana, perhaps, but mostly because of bewbs and her broken gameplay.

Jax...absolutely not.
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02/23/2015 08:18 PM EST
Jax is the token nigger.
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02/23/2015 09:52 PM EST
Johnny Cage, duh! glasses also Reptile is very famous tongue
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RE: Are Jax & Kitana the biggest staples after the fantastic four?
02/24/2015 01:52 PM EST
Kitana = the Chun Li of MK. Basically, the most popular MK female character.

Jax...lol
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RE: Are Jax & Kitana the biggest staples after the fantastic four?
03/13/2015 07:25 PM EST
I would say they are tied with Sonya, Kung Lao, Shang Tsung (he only missed MK4 and Deception), Reptile, and Noob Saibot. Those are the series is main staples, Quan Chi is becoming one as well, and it seems he will be replacing Shang Tsung in the next few games.

If we are going by popularity, Sonya and Kitana are praticaly tied for main female in the series, in MK9 Kitana was the most played female in the PS3 while Sonya has this position in the PC and Xbox 360, Sonya was also MK's poster girl in MK vs DC, that has to count for something. Cyrax, Cage and Smoke are among the most popular as well.

And I don't like to count MK3, UMK3, and Trilogy has the same thing, there will always be people who only played one of those games, so they don't know about the rest of the characters who were in others version, MK4 and Gold as well, the only exception is MK9 because all characters were available in the same edition, you could buy Skarlet and Kenshi if you wanted.

So by counting all games, including the original ones, the characters with most appearences would be in order:

1-Jax- MK2, MK3, UMK3, MK Trillogy, MK4, MK Gold, MK Deadly Alliance, MK Unchained, Armaggedon, MKvsDC, MK9, MKX. That's 12 games.

2- Noob Saibot- he appeared in: MK1, MK2, MK3, UMK3, Trilogy, MK4, MK Gold, Tournament Edition, Deception, Armaggedon and MK 9, that's 11 games.

2- Sonya- she is tied with the others: MK1, MK3, UMK3, Trilogy, MK4, MK Gold, MK Deadly Alliance, MK Armaggedon, MKvsDC, MK9, and MKX. That's 11 games.

2- Reptile- MK1, MK2, UMK3, MK Trilogy, MK4, MK Gold, MK Deadly Aliance, MK Tournament Edition, Armaggedon, MK9, MKX. That's 11 games.

3- Kitana- MK2, UMK3, MK Trilogy, MK Gold, MK Deadly Alliance, MK Unchained, Armaggedon, MKvsDC, MK9 and MKX. Thats 10 games

3- Cage- MK1, MK2, MK Trilogy, MK4, MK Gold, MK Deadly Alliance, MK Tournament Edition, Armaggedon, MK9, MKX. Thats 10 games.

4- Kung Lao- MK2, MK3, UMK3, MK Trilogy, MK Gold, MK Deadly Alliance, MK Armaggedon, MK9, MKX. That's 9 games.

Those are the most important, I won't do for the rest, teh staples are in this order I just posted.