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Jaded-Raven
01/19/2011 06:57 PM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
noobsmoke_mk Wrote:
^lol you'll probably see more teleporting moves..post above says scorpion, sub-zero, sektor, cyrax, mileena, kitana all have teleporting moves..jade, smoke, noob saibot will probably have them too..not too sure about rain or ermac tho


... Hence why I just said it's getting repetitive.


Indeed many characters seem to have teleport moves now. But if Jade shouldn't get one, then what do you suggest she has instead? I don't want her, or any character for that matter, only to have three special moves. And I think the Vanishing Winds teleport fits her, if only she would utilize it differently - like I said, she should have Kitana's version from MKvsDCU.
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Icebaby
01/19/2011 07:03 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
noobsmoke_mk Wrote:
^lol you'll probably see more teleporting moves..post above says scorpion, sub-zero, sektor, cyrax, mileena, kitana all have teleporting moves..jade, smoke, noob saibot will probably have them too..not too sure about rain or ermac tho


... Hence why I just said it's getting repetitive.


Indeed many characters seem to have teleport moves now. But if Jade shouldn't get one, then what do you suggest she has instead? I don't want her, or any character for that matter, only to have three special moves. And I think the Vanishing Winds teleport fits her, if only she would utilize it differently - like I said, she should have Kitana's version from MKvsDCU.


I rather see something with her staff to be used as a move, or if they haven't said anything about her dodging shadow move, I'd like to see that move return.

Was one of the coolest moves she had to be honest.
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Jaded-Raven
01/19/2011 07:07 PM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
noobsmoke_mk Wrote:
^lol you'll probably see more teleporting moves..post above says scorpion, sub-zero, sektor, cyrax, mileena, kitana all have teleporting moves..jade, smoke, noob saibot will probably have them too..not too sure about rain or ermac tho


... Hence why I just said it's getting repetitive.


Indeed many characters seem to have teleport moves now. But if Jade shouldn't get one, then what do you suggest she has instead? I don't want her, or any character for that matter, only to have three special moves. And I think the Vanishing Winds teleport fits her, if only she would utilize it differently - like I said, she should have Kitana's version from MKvsDCU.


I rather see something with her staff to be used as a move, or if they haven't said anything about her dodging shadow move, I'd like to see that move return.

Was one of the coolest moves she had to be honest.


It was, and a rather unique one as well. The Razor-Rang, the Blazing Nitro Kick and Dodging Shadows are the moves she has besides Vanishing Winds. It isn't much, but I agree, I too would definately like to see her use her staff more and maybe in some special move.
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ReptileFinally
01/19/2011 07:22 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Zmoke Wrote:
Okay... thanks for the argument. As for why petal dust in particular; for the aforementioned reasons. It's just a special move idea, seriously. Like it or not. No need to raise a huge controversy on that. It doesn't necessarily have to happen if NRS is to come up with new speed and kinetic type moves which would eventually be more favorable.


They aren't about to come up with it. That is already part of Jade's powers and it has been since her first appearance. That is what I have tried to tell you! To say Jade should suddenly have plant powers, because she appeared in the Living Forest is one of the most ridiculous arguements I have ever heard.



Seriously. I've been watching you two argue and I totally agree with Jaded-Scorpion. Now Zmoke, we understand it's your idea and opinion but please it's not ganna happen So just drop it. Oh and scorpion did have some elemental powers in the first Mortal Kombat Tournement. His Toasty! Fatality.
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Jaded-Raven
01/19/2011 07:27 PM (UTC)
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ReptileFinally Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Zmoke Wrote:
Okay... thanks for the argument. As for why petal dust in particular; for the aforementioned reasons. It's just a special move idea, seriously. Like it or not. No need to raise a huge controversy on that. It doesn't necessarily have to happen if NRS is to come up with new speed and kinetic type moves which would eventually be more favorable.


They aren't about to come up with it. That is already part of Jade's powers and it has been since her first appearance. That is what I have tried to tell you! To say Jade should suddenly have plant powers, because she appeared in the Living Forest is one of the most ridiculous arguements I have ever heard.



Seriously. I've been watching you two argue and I totally agree with Jaded-Scorpion. Now Zmoke, we understand it's your idea and opinion but please it's not ganna happen So just drop it. Oh and scorpion did have some elemental powers in the first Mortal Kombat Tournement. His Toasty! Fatality.


I think you mean Jaded-Raven, if it is me you mean. ;P
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noobsmoke_mk
01/19/2011 07:28 PM (UTC)
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i think jade should spank opponent a$$ using staff
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Icebaby
01/19/2011 07:48 PM (UTC)
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noobsmoke_mk Wrote:
i think jade should spank opponent a$$ using staff


What's an a$$?
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(Erik)
01/19/2011 08:11 PM (UTC)
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Icebaby
01/19/2011 08:17 PM (UTC)
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(Erik) Wrote:


I was actually hoping that someone would do this. This is hilarious. I got my laugh of the day out of me from here. Thank you very much!
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Zmoke
01/19/2011 08:39 PM (UTC)
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ReptileFinally Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Zmoke Wrote:
Okay... thanks for the argument. As for why petal dust in particular; for the aforementioned reasons. It's just a special move idea, seriously. Like it or not. No need to raise a huge controversy on that. It doesn't necessarily have to happen if NRS is to come up with new speed and kinetic type moves which would eventually be more favorable.


They aren't about to come up with it. That is already part of Jade's powers and it has been since her first appearance. That is what I have tried to tell you! To say Jade should suddenly have plant powers, because she appeared in the Living Forest is one of the most ridiculous arguements I have ever heard.



Seriously. I've been watching you two argue and I totally agree with Jaded-Scorpion. Now Zmoke, we understand it's your idea and opinion but please it's not ganna happen So just drop it. Oh and scorpion did have some elemental powers in the first Mortal Kombat Tournement. His Toasty! Fatality.
I'm not saying it's happening, I can drop it. It's just that Jaded-Raven made a mountain out of a molehill and that was not very bearable to me. I posted this in another topic but I'll show this to you (ReptileFinally) in case you're not fully aware of my point:

Jaded-Raven Wrote:
noobsmoke_mk Wrote:
jade and smoke could work as a quick fling sort of thing..o.k give me more time to come up with something (or not)..but here's what i have
smoke saves jade from ambush in living forest..but dissapears in smoke before she could thank him..then jade finds out smoke is a friggin cyborg..she wants to visit him to say 'thank you gawjus' lol
she kisses cyborg smoke to see if he feels anything (like beauty and the beast haha or should i say beauty and the cyborg lol)..or jade just secretly wants to smoke his pole


So you are into the whole damsel in distress thing and likes to get off to it?
I mean, seriously... don't be disgusting.
"Apologize me but I have to criticize you: got to tell that you should think of another manner of receiving new fragile ideas, because what you are doing now is rather rude and immature. You don't go to bash on a rising artist by trying to find all the flaws from their artwork either just because you like the concept it's based on, do you? Not everyone dares to stand behind their fragile and innovative ideas because of people like you. For real, think of it. You are free to tell your opinion on it, in a mature way, but you don't have to bash on it for two pages or so (see vanishing winds...). Insulting the poster is an immature and unintelligent way to express yourself and, as a matter of fact, prohibited in forum rules.

About the idea noobsmoke_mk: such a relationship could even work if you look at other series with similar events. One example is the relationship between Chloe and Doomsday in Smallville. Maybe you should proceed your idea further to make it seem more sensible."

If somebody starts an argument out of that he or she can do it all by their own because undersigned will not join.
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Jaded-Raven
01/19/2011 08:51 PM (UTC)
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And my answer to that was:

Jaded-Raven Wrote:

Oh please, it's not because of the idea about Smoke and Jade, it's the whole "Jade wants to smoke his pole" thing that makes me think of him as disgusting. I cannot and will not take people like that seriously, so sorry if that offends you.

I might come off as harsh and critisizing, but only towards those who do not take the main topic seriously. If you have an idea and you want to present it, then come with some good arguements for how the idea could work! Then I shall respect it. However, neither of you succeeded in doing so, and so I come with my hammer of judgement.

There was no legit reasons Jade would ever have "plant powers", but from what I read in the Smoke thread, there were actually some good ideas about the Smoke/Jade romance. I might be against the whole romance idea, but they had some good arguements for it. And then noobsmoke_mk provides us with some disgusting sicko pervert comments about it which made me lose all respect towards him. And he's done so about other topics as well which makes me wonder if he simply trolls or if he is truly serious about it. Whatever the case, then I cannot and will not take him seriously because of it.

If the idea is fragile, it will break. And if you can't handle the discussions on a message board like this, then don't post in it.

That said, I am all in for innovative ideas. But give the ideas some ground when presenting them!
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(Erik)
01/19/2011 09:15 PM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:

I was actually hoping that someone would do this. This is hilarious. I got my laugh of the day out of me from here. Thank you very much!


Haha ok no problem. I'm here to fulfill your lesbian fantasies whenever, wherever.
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Zmoke
01/19/2011 09:18 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
And my answer to that was:

Jaded-Raven Wrote:

Oh please, it's not because of the idea about Smoke and Jade, it's the whole "Jade wants to smoke his pole" thing that makes me think of him as disgusting. I cannot and will not take people like that seriously, so sorry if that offends you.

I might come off as harsh and critisizing, but only towards those who do not take the main topic seriously. If you have an idea and you want to present it, then come with some good arguements for how the idea could work! Then I shall respect it. However, neither of you succeeded in doing so, and so I come with my hammer of judgement.

There was no legit reasons Jade would ever have "plant powers", but from what I read in the Smoke thread, there were actually some good ideas about the Smoke/Jade romance. I might be against the whole romance idea, but they had some good arguements for it. And then noobsmoke_mk provides us with some disgusting sicko pervert comments about it which made me lose all respect towards him. And he's done so about other topics as well which makes me wonder if he simply trolls or if he is truly serious about it. Whatever the case, then I cannot and will not take him seriously because of it.

If the idea is fragile, it will break. And if you can't handle the discussions on a message board like this, then don't post in it.

That said, I am all in for innovative ideas. But give the ideas some ground when presenting them!


It's not about whether you handle a discussion about an idea or not, it's about the freedom of giving out your ideas. If the idea is fragile, give it space and let it be. You can give an opinion of your own on that, but that doesn't mean you can come to insult the one who made that idea. I and noobsmoke_mk have done nothing to you, huh? Once you've told your opinion, that's it. It's received. No need to pull off a huge two-page argument on that. And from looking how your arguments were primarily based on insulting, maybe it's you who can't handle a discussion. I don't care if the plant moves fit for Jade or not, it was merely an idea. I didn't think it would necessarily be great, it just came up and I decided to post it, to have a wider opinion on that. I posted it to see if people may find facts supporting the idea rather than you trying to see all its downsides.

Zmoke Wrote: "You don't go to bash on a rising artist by trying to find all the flaws from their artwork either just because you like the concept it's based on, do you?"

Jaded-Raven: "If the idea is fragile, it will break."
Nice to know. It will break, by whom? As a matter of fact, new and innovative ideas are always fragile.
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Icebaby
01/19/2011 09:19 PM (UTC)
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(Erik) Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:

I was actually hoping that someone would do this. This is hilarious. I got my laugh of the day out of me from here. Thank you very much!


Haha ok no problem. I'm here to fulfill your lesbian fantasies whenever, wherever.


Grr, so tempting but... *Think of sexy thoughts, think of sexy thoughts*

Man
Dick
Sex with bf
Abs
Greek Gods

Oh god there we go...

Now, where was I? Oh yeah, teleporting... repetitive.
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Jaded-Raven
01/19/2011 09:31 PM (UTC)
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Zmoke Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
And my answer to that was:

Jaded-Raven Wrote:

Oh please, it's not because of the idea about Smoke and Jade, it's the whole "Jade wants to smoke his pole" thing that makes me think of him as disgusting. I cannot and will not take people like that seriously, so sorry if that offends you.

I might come off as harsh and critisizing, but only towards those who do not take the main topic seriously. If you have an idea and you want to present it, then come with some good arguements for how the idea could work! Then I shall respect it. However, neither of you succeeded in doing so, and so I come with my hammer of judgement.

There was no legit reasons Jade would ever have "plant powers", but from what I read in the Smoke thread, there were actually some good ideas about the Smoke/Jade romance. I might be against the whole romance idea, but they had some good arguements for it. And then noobsmoke_mk provides us with some disgusting sicko pervert comments about it which made me lose all respect towards him. And he's done so about other topics as well which makes me wonder if he simply trolls or if he is truly serious about it. Whatever the case, then I cannot and will not take him seriously because of it.

If the idea is fragile, it will break. And if you can't handle the discussions on a message board like this, then don't post in it.

That said, I am all in for innovative ideas. But give the ideas some ground when presenting them!


It's not about whether you handle a discussion about an idea or not, it's about the freedom of giving out your ideas. If the idea is fragile, give it space and let it be. You can give an opinion of your own on that, but that doesn't mean you can come to insult the one who made that idea. I and noobsmoke_mk have done nothing to you, huh? Once you've told your opinion, that's it. It's received. No need to pull off a huge two-page argument on that. And from looking how your arguments were primarily based on insulting, maybe it's you who can't handle a discussion. I don't care if the plant moves fit for Jade or not, it was merely an idea. I didn't think it would necessarily be great, it just came up and I decided to post it, to have a wider opinion on that. I posted it to see if people may find facts supporting the idea rather than you trying to see all its downsides.

Zmoke Wrote: "You don't go to bash on a rising artist by trying to find all the flaws from their artwork either just because you like the concept it's based on, do you?"

Jaded-Raven: "If the idea is fragile, it will break."
Nice to know. It will break, by whom? As a matter of fact, new and innovative ideas are always fragile.


I apologize for being insulting, it was unnecessary.
You speak of being immature and unintelligent - I find people being so when they don't think their ideas through before posting them. You say the plant idea just popped into your head and then you posted it on the forums. And your arguements were "Jade is green and she debuted in the Living Forest". I honestly felt like slamming my head into a wall, because seriously, that is not well-thought through at all!
However, I am sorry for not having been more constructive about my criticism. I should not have exploded like I did.

I do hope you understand the context of my critique though.
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Zmoke
01/19/2011 10:34 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Zmoke Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
And my answer to that was:

Jaded-Raven Wrote:

Oh please, it's not because of the idea about Smoke and Jade, it's the whole "Jade wants to smoke his pole" thing that makes me think of him as disgusting. I cannot and will not take people like that seriously, so sorry if that offends you.

I might come off as harsh and critisizing, but only towards those who do not take the main topic seriously. If you have an idea and you want to present it, then come with some good arguements for how the idea could work! Then I shall respect it. However, neither of you succeeded in doing so, and so I come with my hammer of judgement.

There was no legit reasons Jade would ever have "plant powers", but from what I read in the Smoke thread, there were actually some good ideas about the Smoke/Jade romance. I might be against the whole romance idea, but they had some good arguements for it. And then noobsmoke_mk provides us with some disgusting sicko pervert comments about it which made me lose all respect towards him. And he's done so about other topics as well which makes me wonder if he simply trolls or if he is truly serious about it. Whatever the case, then I cannot and will not take him seriously because of it.

If the idea is fragile, it will break. And if you can't handle the discussions on a message board like this, then don't post in it.

That said, I am all in for innovative ideas. But give the ideas some ground when presenting them!


It's not about whether you handle a discussion about an idea or not, it's about the freedom of giving out your ideas. If the idea is fragile, give it space and let it be. You can give an opinion of your own on that, but that doesn't mean you can come to insult the one who made that idea. I and noobsmoke_mk have done nothing to you, huh? Once you've told your opinion, that's it. It's received. No need to pull off a huge two-page argument on that. And from looking how your arguments were primarily based on insulting, maybe it's you who can't handle a discussion. I don't care if the plant moves fit for Jade or not, it was merely an idea. I didn't think it would necessarily be great, it just came up and I decided to post it, to have a wider opinion on that. I posted it to see if people may find facts supporting the idea rather than you trying to see all its downsides.

Zmoke Wrote: "You don't go to bash on a rising artist by trying to find all the flaws from their artwork either just because you like the concept it's based on, do you?"

Jaded-Raven: "If the idea is fragile, it will break."
Nice to know. It will break, by whom? As a matter of fact, new and innovative ideas are always fragile.


I apologize for being insulting, it was unnecessary.
You speak of being immature and unintelligent - I find people being so when they don't think their ideas through before posting them. You say the plant idea just popped into your head and then you posted it on the forums. And your arguements were "Jade is green and she debuted in the Living Forest". I honestly felt like slamming my head into a wall, because seriously, that is not well-thought through at all!
However, I am sorry for not having been more constructive about my criticism. I should not have exploded like I did.

I do hope you understand the context of my critique though.


I don't see it immature if you post an idea you haven't thought through, not sure about unintelligent (:see next column). I intended the post purely so that if people like it, they adapt with it, if not, then it shall be left behind and I would've forgotten it right there barring if I thought it through afterwards seeing it sensible overall.

Why I posted the idea right there was because peculiar ideas in the first place (can be compared to inventions) should be written down or told to somebody so you can further investigate your idea with a wider aspect and see if it could work. It could be a bad idea, or, it could be a revolutionary idea - that shall never see the light in case you didn't take care of it ultimately forgetting it.

The reason why I mentioned the Living Forest thing was because NRS often tends to leave things open, so that they can expand even a minor thing much further in the future - and, leaving fans to speculate, which seems to be working. Plants could work with a new character rather - as we have sorted out.

I understand your context of critique, got your point by now entirely. Apologize is accepted. You're the only fellow Nordic MK fan from a 5M nation, that I know here, after all. smile
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noobsmoke_mk
01/19/2011 11:22 PM (UTC)
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erm the jade and smoke relationship was my idea but i hadn't thought of a story..i just thought i'd make one up but who gives 2 testicles if it's good or bad?? it's not like it's gonna happen
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Jaded-Raven
01/20/2011 01:07 AM (UTC)
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noobsmoke_mk Wrote:
erm the jade and smoke relationship was my idea but i hadn't thought of a story..i just thought i'd make one up but who gives 2 testicles if it's good or bad?? it's not like it's gonna happen


I would like to keep my testicles...

Anyways, I care about the story alot. It's one of the reasons I like Mortal Kombat - it is so rich on lore and mythology. So when someone comes up with a story idea, or an idea for a power for a character, I want it to fit the lore.
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