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Mick-LuciferPosted: 06/05/2013 01:28 AMStatus ::
Injustice: The MKOmmunity Reacts to Scorpion DLC

Scorpion has made the leap from the koliseum of Mortal Kombat to the superhero universe of Injustice: Gods Among Us! As the latest downloadable character; the iconic yellow ninja represents the franchise the Injustice game makers are best known for, bringing the silhouette featured in their company logo to life in-game.

As with any guest appearance in an established franchise, there will be a variety of reactions. Mortal Kombat fans experienced the gamut of emotions when Kratos and Freddy Krueger made their submission into the 2011 reboot title. The less said about that, the better.

Where Freddy proved to be a particularly obtuse and unexpected inclusion; Scorpion has the benefit of having been there and done that before in Mortal Kombat versus DC Universe. Smoothing things over from the other side is a brand new design by comic book icon and current DC Co-Publisher: Jim Lee!

Despite best efforts to distinguish the new franchise from their well known classic, we kinda expected some kind of nod to Mortal Kombat somewhere in the game. Whether it's a testament to the decision, the ease of expectations, or the success of its execution, plenty of people are embracing the ninjas crossover leap. Here are just some of the positive responses members of The MKOmmunity have had to share:

THE GOOD:
"I wasn't excited for scorpion at all until I saw him costume and then I was like dude that's awesome. Now I'm actually hype to play as him even though he shouldn't be in this game." - Heavy-Rain

"The outfit is awesome, I'd like Jim Lee's designs on other characters. Maybe he can help with better costumes for MK 10." - Venkman28

"Honestly, this is easily one of my favorite Scorpion costumes of all [...] time. I really hope he gets it as an additional costume for MK10. I like that his super is very Kratos-esque. Obviously his encounter with Kratos in MK9 made him realize that he needed more emphasis on his chains. I like that they made him more spectre like as well. His throw, clash animation, and super really highlight his spectre side. I'm very excited to play as Scorpion in Injustice." - KungLaodoesntsuck

"I love how they had Jim Lee design Scorpion for this game. While it's not a design I would like to see in an MK game, it works for this... I do prefer it in the sketch tho." - JAX007

"Backflip kick is back + air throw + air teleport. Scorpion is officially the best anti-air player in the game now or at least gives Doomsday and Wonder Woman a run for their money." - Dasher10

"Never was a fan of Scorpion but the costume is pretty cool, the intro and outro are good, and the super is interesting. - TheNinjasRock071394

"I love what I'm seeing, and that Jim Lee design is great." - Vash_15

"I wasn't a fan of the idea of Scorpion being in Injustice, but seeing his Jim Lee [d]esign totally made me change my mind. I love the way he looks, and I can't wait to try him out." - Siroj

"Scorpion looks awesome!! I hope Jim Lee helps design some of the MK10 fighters who need updates (*cough* Nightwolf)." - warrior

"Ya know, I'm actually proud of NRS [for] how they executed this. I mean, I knew that Scorpion would make his way in this game some way the other. But it actually wasn't a half-assed, lazy MK9 port. They actually gave him a new costume, intro and wager animation. Good job to you all, Jim Lee and NRS. You did not disappoint." - S0nofKrypton

"They translated him really well in this game, his moves, personality, and design. I really like his wager clash, and I'm glad they made his disable require a bar of the super meter. Overall, he fits well into this game." - fijikungfu

"I LOVED that line "There is no justice!". Very clever,because we know what Scorp has been through with his and his family murders." - Noobsmoke92

"The most interesting bit of all of this is going to be seeing how well an mk fighter makes the transition to [I]njustice. Going by that video, it seems like its going to be a success, and like him or not, he looks to be a viable member of the roster. He is an anti air beast. His super is cooler than everyone is giving it credit for. He takes them to hell and ragdolls the [...] out of them! I can't wait to take him for a spin." - Detox

"I like this costume a lot more than his MK9 primary, but less than his MK9 alternate. I'm happy that they redesigned him rather than recycle him from MK9 (one thing I love about Mortal Kombat is that the characters get new designs in each game). Even if it's not the best Scorpion costume, it's still better than recycling it imo. It keeps it fresh. I agree the spikes on his wrists are a little too over the top. I don't really mind those sword things though. The thing is, I didn't get Injustice. But I definitely want to get the complete edition when it comes out now. But this really makes me hope another Mortal Kombat will be announced soon." - johnny1up

"The costume is awesome, with the minor exception of spikes on his costume. It reminds me of the way the ninja hood looked like in his MK1 sprite, that's just sweet. That's how it should be if they want him to look like a ninja." - legoslayer10

Of course, while many may find enjoyment in the variety of a crossover guest character, not everyone is so easily convinced.

As a third draft DLC inclusion, Scorpion skips ahead of some of the most iconic heroes and villains of the DC Universe. One could argue that those options should have had maximum priority in a DC product - particularly some of the most shocking omissions [e.g. Martian Manhunter -- teased at the end of the Scorpion trailer]. The existence of lesser guest characters may have soured the broth for the better picks, but is it so wrong for consumers and fans to expect a franchise to be what it claims to be and nothing else?

Scorpion's arrival as a previously unannounced Season Pass character - or even as $4.99 extra - raises questions about consumer satisfaction, the gaming experience, and the exploitation of DLC. In some ways, it may be disappointing Scorpion wasn't included as a deeply embedded secret in the disc game itself. For others, no amount of reasoning will do. Here are some of the negative reactions from The MKOmmunity:

THE BAD:
"What I don't like is that his spear is shaped like a scorpion tail. No. Yeah, his name is "Scorpion", but that doesn't mean he should be decked out in a giant yellow scorpion carcus. Just make him a yellow "ninja"." - legoslayer10

"I only liked his super. Seeing pretty much all of his MK9 moves copy-pasted into this game feels lame. Not impressed. I just expected something "fresh" and different for Injustice, not almost a literal copy/paste from MK (moves, that is). Although, this is not surprising considering how much it helped them time-wise." - Nephrite

"As for his design... I'm kinda indifferent. I like the loose hood, but I hate the obnoxious spikes on the gauntlets. I like the golden armor, but I hate the lines and loose cloth on his legs. I like that he looks very MK-ish, but I hate that he's in the game at all." - TemperaryUserName

"I find it funny that I was really excited for Scorpion, and then they get him re-designed by Jim Lee who I hate and he makes Scorpion look like a [...] dork. Worst design in Injustice, bar none. Yeah, his name is Scorpion, so let's cover his whole chest with a bulky yellow scorpion. So bad." - Mobster_For_SATAN

"Im very glad they re-designed him and not just by the NRS team but by JIM LEE :D I still feel however he doesn't belong, and his moves aren't very new or interesting to me...but I got the season pass so im stuck with him. He does look very cool tho." - Wintergoose

"I think Scorpion's super could have been better. Rather than raising some pillars at the start of the super, he should have summoned a bunch of other Scorpions like his UMK3 fatality and just beat the crap out of his opponent. I'm kind of disappointed he made the roster, but I'm glad they redesigned him. His move set looks almost identical to MK9 save for his throw. His Clash is pretty cool too. " - Kabal20

"I don't wanna see this design in MK 10 but it works well for the comic book universe." - colt1107

"Same sh*t as MK9, fire animation still sucks, the design is meh." - GodlyShinnok

"I really hate people in twitter saying: "wow Scoprpion gameplay looks amazing" ... come one thats a simple copy an paste from MK9...the only thing we can say its awesome is his design... but gameplay, combos, specials ""get over here" everything is copy and paste from MK... thats lame..!!!" - hayder_online

"Lame Super Move. My overall feeling about this is meh." - MrSchmuckHead

"Well I do like his design, but the moves do look a little too similar to similar to MK9." - Darkhound74

"I only had one problem with Freddy, and it's the same problem I have with Scorpion. No Jason, No Sub-Zero. I've been a Friday the 13th fan for over 20 years now. When I saw Freddy was in MK9 my heart skipped a beat. I figured "if Freddy is in, Jason has to be, right?" Wrong! i feel like that has happened again with Scorpion. [...] It's not that Scorpion can't stand solid ground in Injustice, he just needs some company." - evilekim

"... I hate all these Scorpion themed costumes they keep coming up with for him. What happened to the good old days when they felt the need to establish he was undead with his design instead being so god damn literal with his name!" - Onaga

"Love the hood mask combo, but hate his overall outfit in general. The shit on his chest and below is a big yellow eye sore. His Super is great. His victory animation is wicked. The moves, I'm not mad that he has the same moves plus a few new ones, it was to be expected really. I don't like that a MK character is in the game, but I'm kinda glad he's in, just to combat against the Sinestro spammers." - WeaponTheory

"Only his hood and mask are good (remind me about his awesome design from MKD). Otherwise it's superhero costume, not warrior's. While fitting for this particular game, I hope his design in the next MK will have nothing to do with such style." - RedSumac

"The only thing that makes me twist my head is the diamond thing in the center of his chest. I mean I get that he "needed" something like that to fit in with the DC superheroes, but a diamond? I dig the rest of the costume." - DjangoDrag

Whether you love it or hate it; Scorpion is now live for holders of the DLC Season Pass. An individual purchase goes live on PlayStation Network & Xbox LIVE starting June 11 (next Tuesday).

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DetoxPosted: 06/05/2013 03:14 AMStatus ::


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This was actually a pretty good idea. Well done.

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Lmao, nice

colt1107Posted: 06/05/2013 05:28 AMStatus ::


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I don't hate the costume or design because it fits the comic book universe well but ill never be truly happy until we see Vincent Proce's design of Scorpion in MK.

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Oh shieeet... ^_^


GodlyShinnok Wrote:
Lmao, nice


You kept it simple and brutal. lol


KungLaodoesntsuckPosted: 06/05/2013 09:11 AMStatus ::


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I was quoted? Cool

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scorpioPosted: 06/05/2013 10:39 AMStatus ::


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you know, i dont see what people are tripping over this guys art design "oh wow its coll to see what he done with scorpion"

yea the hood rocks. rest of the suit, not as much. BUT, whys the designer gettin all the love? if you go back to mkda and mk deception, even mk armageddon, there was concept art that had scorpion in a hood, and looked similar to this design. the concept its self has been brought up for nearly every mk since deadly alliance. and was always turned downed in favor of a more traditional look.


another thing that really bothered me, is that the skull, when unmasked, looked too small and too much of the spine of showing. it just looked weird.

JohnBoyAdvancePosted: 06/05/2013 10:53 AMStatus ::


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I guess its kinda cool. I just think that "IF" he is in because he is the mascot of NRS, he should have been an unlockable and we could have had the DLC slot for Power Girl, Zatanna, Black Canary, Robocop, Star Sapphire, Atrocious, Prof Zoom, Grodd, Vixen, Red Tornado, Dr Fate, Amazo, Cheetah, Mr Miracle, Big Barda, Darksied,

You get the idea.

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scorpio Wrote:
you know, i dont see what people are tripping over this guys art design "oh wow its coll to see what he done with scorpion"



yea the hood rocks. rest of the suit, not as much. BUT, whys the designer gettin all the love? if you go back to mkda and mk deception, even mk armageddon, there was concept art that had scorpion in a hood, and looked similar to this design. the concept its self has been brought up for nearly every mk since deadly alliance. and was always turned downed in favor of a more traditional look.






another thing that really bothered me, is that the skull, when unmasked, looked too small and too much of the spine of showing. it just looked weird.
Yeah I don't know why people are treating Scorpion looking scorpiony is a new thing since that's the direction they've been moving him in for awhile not but this design IMO definitely looks better than what the MK designers have done.

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RiyakouPosted: 06/05/2013 12:48 PMStatus ::


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I still think this was a poor choice for a DLC character.

There are so many DC characters that could've been given that spot.

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Ed and NRS designing Scorpion Gameplay and Specials: Crtl+C - Crtl+V ...LOL

Kabal20Posted: 06/05/2013 04:00 PMStatus ::


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I believe I wrote my comment prior to him being release. A lot of what I said still stands. I'm not mad that he is in the game, just disappointed that he took a roster slot over any countless number of DC characters.

After playing as him though, I admit despite have a near identical move set to MK9, he still plays remarkably different in the Injustice engine.

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ShaolinChuanPosted: 06/05/2013 05:24 PMStatus ::


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Not all of his moves are copy and pasted. He has some new moves where he swings his swords around that can be followed up by almost any special. Well maybe just 1 or 2 new combos lol.

His trait and jump hits are still new.. The super move was kind of a let down, but I suppose it's appropriate to this game, but his finishing animation makes up for it. That is a fatality right there... Would have really been an icing on the cake if the opponent started burning up when thrown to hell.

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I think the design works for this universe, but it's way too garish to fit in an MK game. I think Scorpion's overall design since Deadly Alliance has gotten a little too fancy for a supposed hell-spawned ninja specter (even though I still liked them), but THIS one takes the cake, I like it though, but I definitely don't want to see it in MK.

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I like how Scorp has pointy part of the costume between his legs. If it was real suit, it's wearer damaged his legs with almost every move, even, if pointy part wasn't sharp.

While MK / DC is not much keen on real life logic of designs, such choices are jarring, even by fantastical standards.

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I'm on the bad side.....Awesome!

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"11/10 It's alright"

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evilekimPosted: 06/05/2013 10:04 PMStatus ::


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I'm on the bad side lol
I do like Scorpion, but why no SubZ?

gyrodethPosted: 06/05/2013 10:08 PMStatus ::


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I'm totally stoked for Scorpion. But I guess my season pass from GameStop doesn't count. As Scorpion shows up on the character select screen, but is greyed out.

themasterabPosted: 06/06/2013 12:30 AMStatus ::


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Given scorpions in is great to me, not only the future for mortal kombat but also maybe another mk vs dc wouldn't hurt my feelings..

Oh and I think this pretty much confirms the 2nd DLC season pass, specially with how quick the DLC they have given to us, I love that!

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Lmao...awesome.

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Bryden88Posted: 06/06/2013 08:00 AMStatus ::


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They need to tone down his teleport and make his movement slightly faster, then he'll be balanced. As it is, he's slow, which renders it useless to do anything but time teleport punches.

Joe-Von-ZombiePosted: 06/06/2013 10:35 AMStatus ::


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I'll never understand why NRS is the only FG studio that gets hate for recycling moves and animations. Every other FG studio does this...

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I love this new design; it's very different to what's been before, the armour shape is new and i think it does fit into the "fantastical" world they've created here. The combos do look recycled but altered enough to fit into this engine and i've got to say i like that it's almost showing consistency/continuity flow.
The throw animation i was surprised and blown away by, as well as the super and ender. The flames running across the floor during that clash was a spectacularly nice touch.

I'm not 100% convinced that he should have been chosen at all, for reasons i've already stated; i.e. it looks like they don't have enough faith in the project to allow it to stand on its own merits without jamming in the obvious MK reference, which has gone beyond the simple 'nod' to the audience but is now a full inclusion, but what they've done they've done well.

Also, WTF is up with Supes? He looks like MJ in the Thriller vid, only the leather jacket is a black cape instead.

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