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Kitana147Posted: 05/19/2016 09:03 AMStatus ::


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RE: Speculation: Future of Non-Playable Characters In Doubt?

SneakyLizard Wrote:
Kitana147 Wrote:
SneakyLizard Wrote:
Kitana147 Wrote:
it's funny how people are getting pissed at other people for bitching and complaining, BUT weren't the same people who bitched about people bitching and complaining also do it, the past yr all i have seen on here and read was









OMG NO FUJIN THIS GAME SUCKS, WHY LEATHERFACE AND NOT FROST, LI MEI WTF NRS WTF, etc etc









so i don't get why now everyone is pissed maybe they are getting annoyed that their once beloved fans of the game that made them popular bitch so much over little things they just basically K WE GET IT WE HEARD YOU FUCKING ANNOYING PEOPLE WE WON'T DO THIS EVER AGAIN









but attacking people on here, and ed and the nrs on twitter (i'm talking about in general not just this forum) they had enough









or maybe ED is once again being the big troll he is known for. look at mk9 Goro, Kintaro and Shao weren't playable and yet Shao died and stayed dead in mkx, where were Goro and Kintaro and they were NPC in mk9 why didn't anyone bitch and complain about them not being in the roster









but cause fujin, rain were npc and had new costumes people just assumed, i always thought the roster was pretty much the story mode characters, yeah i was a bit upset that Jason, and the guest were in the game but i did not bitch about them the entire yr









right when the game was first released right away i saw people all annoyed and already starting new polls and threads on who they wanted in the game and who you'd want for the next game. if Fujin and Rain and Sindel and them weren't in NPC they could be important for Mk11 or Mk12









what will happen if Mk11 has Fujin and Rain and them but someone you loved from MKX isn't there people going to go off for a yr being upset that so called person isn't in MK11 roster













I hope you're right about this, because I can not see NRS just forgetting about past characters (except maybe Mokap). They need to be in future games.






well i'd like to see scorpion and sub zero miss out on a game or the future games cause they are officially overused i don't care if they are popular and ed likes them. they could skip a game i wouldnt miss them at all


That's never gonna happen because they're the poster boys of MK. That would be like having a Street Fighter game without Ryu and Ken, or a Super Smash Bros. game without the original 12 fighters.


it's fine when MK11 comes out i'll just bitch and moan about Sub and Scorpion always being in the game LOL, i just use everyone i hate as the person being used as a punching bag

"I am not so easily fooled, assassin of Outworld!"
AsesinoPosted: 05/20/2016 05:38 AMStatus ::


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RE: Speculation: Future of Non-Playable Characters In Doubt?

"I think it's stupider of people who complained about them not being playable and called us lazy."


"It's a long way from fightable to playable."


Never heard bigger bullshit than that lol, what a douchebag, insulting fans since 1993 is a big mistake. It's funny how he throws his shit at you, and you believe.. "It's a long way from fightable to playable." The biggest fucking lie for 2016 in the galaxy. And please leave NRS team, we have Dan Forden, who are you ?

Human-Smoke-4-everPosted: 05/20/2016 08:19 AMStatus ::


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RE: Speculation: Future of Non-Playable Characters In Doubt?

lastfighter89 Wrote:
We're going in circles AROUND the problem' but we are not facing it face-first.

Majority of people wanted Fujin as playable.

Ed Boon and co chose otherwise, so they have to face consequences.

Consequences are : your loyal fanbase bitching about 4 unwanted and unneeded guests taking the spots of Fujin, Rain, Sindel and Baraka.





Yews, NRS is lazy, they had plenty of time of making those characters fully playable.



And stop being so fucking touchy every time the "lazy" is written/spoken.

As long as it doesn't get personal, criticism should be accepted.



And MKO please, stop being so apologist towards NRS, sometimes even Ed Boon and his company may be wrong.


Agreed. Boon was teasing Fujin and other storyline NPCs being available as KP2 for months before the reveal. Then they finally reveal KP2 and its Bo Rai Cho [who does deserve a spot] 2 more guest characters and a Robot cosplaying as the MK3 Cyborgs. Backlash was inevitable. Nobody wanted 4 guest characters but they gave them to us. That is on them.

This just reeks trying to pass the buck and place the blame on fans instead of taking responsibility for their actions.

Why couldn't this ending have happened?
KenshiMaster16Posted: 05/20/2016 03:42 PMStatus ::


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RE: Speculation: Future of Non-Playable Characters In Doubt?

The main problem as a champion of the lore is this makes every story they want to tell from here on out feel like its playing out on an effectively smaller scale. If they want to present us with a big villain reveal, like a return of Shang Tsung or Shao Kahn, or a new timeline reveal of Onaga or Blaze, or a new villain entirely that could threaten the realms, we will now be stuck with seeing how it affects just 25 or so characters instead of seeing how it affects a broader scope of the MK universe in the form of cameos.

The great thing about MKX (despite my issues with the lackluster storyline) was that it finally felt like the story they were telling was a big deal in the fact we could see how it affected people outside of the roster. It felt like a fully-fleshed out world for once instead of "Now let's go over to this pocket of characters who'll deal with the Deadly Alliance....oh but wait, now this is happening over in Outworld with this pocket of characters."

While I understand their frustrations with fan-demand, the bigger problem here is they are, in reality, limiting their true potential in the story telling department and that is so very disheartening.

JINNOCIDEPosted: 05/20/2016 04:30 PMStatus ::


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RE: Speculation: Future of Non-Playable Characters In Doubt?

I'll never get this. I've always loved cameos. Idk about most of you but everytime a character that wasn't in the roster of a MK game popped up on the screen I was like screaming with emotion. There can't be enough room for everyone in the roster, so, why don't expand the story with cameos?

THEY EVEN MADE SOME OF THEM FIGHTABLE THIS TIME. How cool is that?
I just can't be mad that X character isn't playable, but his cameo would please me as hell, even for a brief second. Now this may not happen so often. :/


ARRIBA
PickleMendipPosted: 05/21/2016 06:01 AMStatus ::


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RE: Speculation: Future of Non-Playable Characters In Doubt?

I can't deny that i have complained a bit about NPCs. They genuinely feel like a tease and when that itch doesn't get scratched, i feel like i've missed out, short-changed somehow.

However i've never made stupid threats to NRS, or started a big war over the internet with someone about it. Because i'm an adult i behave as such. I understand how to express my opinion maturely, even if you all don't agree with it.

Now, because of the assholes behaving badly, the whole franchise and fanbase will probably suffer the consequences.

STATE FED LIES CHARM EMPTY EYES. Anon.
Human-Smoke-4-everPosted: 05/21/2016 03:41 PMStatus ::


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RE: Speculation: Future of Non-Playable Characters In Doubt?

Having NPCs and fightable NPCs wasn't the problem. The problem was Boon teasing that we would be able to play as them. After KP1 Boon said that if there was enough interest a KP2 with the story mode would be a possibility.

So ofcourse fans were going to let Boon and the NRS team know they wanted them. Then came months of Boon teasing [lying more likely because they had to have KP2 in production by this time] Fujin and other story mode.

So after months of trolling and hype they finally reveal KP2 and.... its not who fans expected or even wanted. 2 more shitty guest characters and a Robot that mimics the MK3 Cyborgs. I don't have a problem with Bo Rai Cho because shitty moveset aside he has a place given his importance of being Liu Kang and Kung Lao's teacher.

Ofcourse fans were going to be upset. Boon led us on for months only to give us the bait and switch. Backlash was inevitable. And that interview with GamesRadar where he says "We listen to our fans" which fans called him out on and now this interview with Chard.This is not going to endear them with fans. Boon and Co. Created this situation. They need to own it and stop throwing their fans and customers under the bus.

Why couldn't this ending have happened?
JasonVPredPosted: 05/21/2016 09:14 PMStatus ::


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RE: Speculation: Future of Non-Playable Characters In Doubt?


JINNOCIDE Wrote:
I'll never get this. I've always loved cameos. Idk about most of you but everytime a character that wasn't in the roster of a MK game popped up on the screen I was like screaming with emotion. There can't be enough room for everyone in the roster, so, why don't expand the story with cameos?



THEY EVEN MADE SOME OF THEM FIGHTABLE THIS TIME. How cool is that?

I just can't be mad that X character isn't playable, but his cameo would please me as hell, even for a brief second. Now this may not happen so often. :/


I feel the exact same way and on the flip side it has been introduced as a clear cut way to kill off minor characters; if I am to endure annoying or boring characters, I would prefer to see them within the comic or story mode cutscenes as cameos.

... here's your Subzero, now plain zero.
KrayzieCyraxPosted: 05/23/2016 03:02 PMStatus ::


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RE: Speculation: Future of Non-Playable Characters In Doubt?

It's so awesome watching the winers and bitchers that caused this try to justify their wining and bitching. So awesome.

moneyguyPosted: 05/23/2016 04:39 PMStatus ::


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RE: Speculation: Future of Non-Playable Characters In Doubt?

We don't even know if this was exactly the case. He said he "got the feeling".

Personally I could care less, if they got mad about people complaining. If Netherrealm wants to respond with "haha, you won't see these characters again", I'll respond by not supporting their games anymore.

I'll continue to call them lazy for not giving DLC characters that are supposed to be "complete characters" alternate costumes.

Human-Smoke-4-everPosted: 05/24/2016 09:49 AMStatus ::


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RE: Speculation: Future of Non-Playable Characters In Doubt?

KrayzieCyrax Wrote:
It's so awesome watching the winers and bitchers that caused this try to justify their wining and bitching. So awesome.


Boon and co. caused this. He intentionally lied to players by teasing that if there was enough demand for them they would make Fujin and the other story mode NPCs playable. He did it for months and now wants to cry like a baby because they're getting their long overdue backlash.

Fuck Boon. he caused most of this. Get off his dick and let him accept his share of the blame for creating this situation.

Why couldn't this ending have happened?
tommystockleyPosted: 02/03/2017 02:26 AMStatus ::


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RE: No more NPCs for future installments?

I'll admit... I was surprised Baraka wasn't DLC considering he got a redesign. But I don't think the team should let Whitney fans dissuade them.

If anything, put MORE In. Put in more than could actually appear as DLC. Cameos have been in MK for a very long time. People speculating that they are playable isn't really new either. Sure the Fujin cameo got me excited for DLC but just because I didn't get Fujin doesn't mean I'm upset that he had a cameo. It would be silly to remove cameos for getting hopes up.

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ProfesserAhnkaPosted: 02/15/2017 04:57 PMStatus ::


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RE: No more NPCs for future installments?

I have no issues with cameos actually. Frost, Sareena, Li Mei and Bo were decent cameos. But characters like Rain, Fujin, and Tanya I almost classify as more than cameos considering they played just an integral part (if not more) in the story as the likes of some characters in the actual roster(Reptile, Ermac, Ferra/Torr, Goro ect). That and considering the fact they were decked out in fresh new costumes and what not certainly would raise expectations of them becoming DLC at the very least. I'm still surprised Bo' and Tremor made it in over Fujin.

So I don't think they should STOP with cameos but they need to be smarter about how they go about them. I also think TOO many of them actually does a disservice to the story anyway. We don't need a billion cameos from a billion characters especially when there's characters on the actual roster that needs the screen time and focus. I think Story Mode needs a significant overhaul for the next game regardless. Too repetitive- cut scene, fight, cut scene, fight, cut scene, fight- I would really like to see them doing something similar to Konquest with a bit of a more open world feel to it and the ability to choose whatever character in the game and go on a journey reflecting their current personal story- this mean arcade endings would tie into this AND would be actually cannon- no "What ifs".

Either that or just fuck the story altogether. The MK mythology and story hasn't kept me riveted since Armageddon came along and vomited all over it 11 years ago.

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Human-Sub-Zero-4-everPosted: 08/02/2017 10:11 PMStatus ::


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RE: Speculation: Future of Non-Playable Characters In Doubt?

Human-Smoke-4-ever Wrote:
KrayzieCyrax Wrote:
It's so awesome watching the winers and bitchers that caused this try to justify their wining and bitching. So awesome.




Boon and co. caused this. He intentionally lied to players by teasing that if there was enough demand for them they would make Fujin and the other story mode NPCs playable. He did it for months and now wants to cry like a baby because they're getting their long overdue backlash.



Fuck Boon. he caused most of this. Get off his dick and let him accept his share of the blame for creating this situation.


I have to agree! Ed Boon Trolls TOO dam much... why tease a Kombat Pack 3 to never make it? If you look at the evolution of recent games. The're too busy pushing forward not to realise the gem they could already polishing up to give us another year or two of MKX. With latest graphic creeping up takes longer to make a game. I mean we can WAIT for MK12. They could give us more DLC characters and use the time to work on the MK12 story.

I heard in one of the interviews with Ed Boon, he didn't know where to go from MKX. He should really listen to his hardcore fans!

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