1. If you don't like the game or the series, then quit wasting our fucking time.

2. The game hasn't come out yet so you can't bash shit. It's still 5-6 months away.

3. Kiss my ass.

4. **ck you.

5. You're gonna get bashed and flamed big time, I suspect. Good job on digging your own grave.

And you're point is?

I quite don't understand what you want.

We know MK isn't the prima donna of the 3d fighting games, but has it's own points to score.

We have an huge amount of threads "putting down" MK and i don't think we need more threads like this. It's your opinion, fine, but if you were constructive in the words you wrote than i might give credit on you.

I hope MK evolves in the direction of making a new fighting engine with more movmentes and different of each other, like throws, speed, evading, etc... But that is already said so it's no news.

IMO MK should evolve but not with a learning curve like VF or SC2 because you need Extra Time to learn some of the characters weakness and strenghts.
MK can make you play almost with ALL characters with simplicity (arguable).

But as i said MK needs a better core engine as posted in threads before (just read them).

You haven't even played it yet. Quit being a hater. If you like the other games you mentioned so much, then go play those. I've been playing deadly alliance all week, and sure, it has it's flaws, and it's not as deep as some fighting games, but I honestly enjoy it. I do hope that the MK team tightens up the fighting some in the new game, but I have strong faith that they will. I've already heard that Deception will include combo breakers and new throws, as well as sped up combat, which were all complaints that I had with the first game. I'm excited for Deception.

KenshiMaster16 Wrote: 1. If you don't like the game or the series, then quit wasting our fucking time. 2. The game hasn't come out yet so you can't bash shit. It's still 5-6 months away. 3. Kiss my ass. 4. **ck you. 5. You're gonna get bashed and flamed big time, I suspect. Good job on digging your own grave.

1. I don't care.

2. I bash what the fuck i want, when i want to. Just because you can't keep Ed Boon's penis out of your mouth long enough to tell him that his game is garbage doesn't mean anyone else gives a crap about what you think they can or cannot bash.

The game is done. It's 6 months away from release... all they're doing is ironing out bugs and shoring up netcode. That 20% crap you hear is due to the fact that 20% of the game was represented in the E3 demo, not that only 20% of it is done. You fucking moron.

3. Too late, i'm too busy with your grandma.

4. Bring it on, shitheels.

I hope this thread will be closed because it's turning into a low tone thread.

For Christ sake, stop with this, chill out.

Seti1

Ask all the people who've been playing Street Fighter and Guilty Gear and Tekken.

I hear those games also have their own forums in the internet, so here's an idea, why don't you just leave this forum, which is dedicated to such a terribly developed, garbage game according to you and instead of wasting your time whining and complaining about something you obviously dislike, go to Tekken Zaibatsu or something and put your time and your opinions to better use.

Deal?

Nah. How about this: you don't like my topic? Don't post in it. That's the action that the adult you're trying to simulate would take.

Yo dude... fighting mechanics doesn't just sell games. If you have a good fighting engine and also add tons of goodies, people will buy it. How do you explain that Mortal Kombat has consistantly outsold Tekken or Virtua Fighter?

SETI1 Wrote: And you're point is? I quite don't understand what you want. We know MK isn't the prima donna of the 3d fighting games, but has it's own points to score. We have an huge amount of threads "putting down" MK and i don't think we need more threads like this. It's your opinion, fine, but if you were constructive in the words you wrote than i might give credit on you. I hope MK evolves in the direction of making a new fighting engine with more movmentes and different of each other, like throws, speed, evading, etc... But that is already said so it's no news. IMO MK should evolve but not with a learning curve like VF or SC2 because you need Extra Time to learn some of the characters weakness and strenghts. MK can make you play almost with ALL characters with simplicity (arguable). But as i said MK needs a better core engine as posted in threads before (just read them).

Hmph. A fairly reasonable response. Well here's the deal: with respect to the "threads before", there's only been 3, and i started one of them. I've read what some people have to say, but i don't want ol' looney perusing these forums and thinking MK fans are content to let the series stagnate with fluff and contrived nonsense.

My voice, much as you hate the sound of it, is important too.

And what i'm saying is this: "Accessibility" is going to kill this series just like it killed the classic MK series in the end. "Accessibility" sucks, and it's microcosmal of the dumbing down of our gaming culture in general in an attempt to wrend the last 5 dollars from some 20 year-old schmuck who should be playing with his coloring books instead of playing fighting games.

This thread has no point of being up.Pure waste of space and waste of time.

If you think your going to get away with this
Neurotransmitter well your wrong!.U dont come in MKO and talk like this.If you dont like Ed boon thats fine but u dont have to say all that crap about him.Not only him but other people here like who do you think you are

This threead is a waste of time for people thats why i PM Acjbizar and told him about this thread i want to see what his going to do and see im waiting for his response.

sektor101 Wrote: This thread has no point of being up.Pure waste of space and waste of time. If you think your going to get away with this Neurotransmitter well your wrong!.U dont come in MKO and talk like this.If you dont like Ed boon thats fine but u dont have to say all that crap about him. This threead is a waste of time for people thats why i PM Acjbizar and told him about this thread i want to see what his going to do and see im waiting for his response.

Is this the part where i start trembling with fear?

Well, i'll start tremblin' in a minute.

Meanwhile, i wonder what i said about ol' looney that's got you all riled up... was it the part about how his business strategy is ruining the game? Or was it that part about how he spun all the fluff and pocket lint extras as a novel concept?

.... nevamind... ain't gonna waste my F***in time on this Sh!tface.

So you admit to not having anything better to do than to go to a message board and troll?

That's nice, it's something that probably an adult who's trying to simulate a whiny, immature child would do.

well as I hate to say it some of his stuff does make sense :$ If everyone keeps going goodie goodie on the serie, no real improvements will be made.. so maybe if some complaints come they can make (another) drastic recovery.. but that's NO reason to go flaming the game (or other forum members)

mpetrie Wrote: Yo dude... fighting mechanics doesn't just sell games. If you have a good fighting engine and also add tons of goodies, people will buy it. How do you explain that Mortal Kombat has consistantly outsold Tekken or Virtua Fighter?

Name recognition. It is widely accepted that MK:DA was garbage. But yet, as you said, it outsold Tekken and Virtua Fighter (in the United States and Western countries). Why is that?

The series had a good run (up until about MK3), and introduced some new ideas and a different kind of fighting. MK was sensational because of blood and fatalities and big uppercuts, which hadn't been done before. It was decent.

Fast forward to 2002, and MK:DA comes out. What made people run out and buy this one? People saw "Mortal Kombat" and bought it because they remembered that this was the game with blood in it. Pure and simple. It didn't sell because of the gameplay, that's for damned sure.

Don't even talk about wasting time(oops) :EDIT:if you have nothing positive to say, unlike Shaolin below me,:End Edit: because you all are for feeding the troll who won't stop until ignored/banned.

Ok, here's a suggestion. Wait till the game comes out, rent it or buy it (your choice), then spend some time trying to play it in depth as much as possible. Write a review for it at gamefaqs.com or any other well recognized game sites, so that the developers can improve upon their mistakes.

It's not necessary to hate on the developers and make fun of their names. Ed Boon and the MK team are not Kung Fu masters. They are game creaters. Perhaps they can use some assistance with the help of proffessional martial arts film coordinators like Cory Yuen.

I also feel that the fighting mechanics are not the best, but they are fun. I enjoy MKDA's fighting engine. But change is always beautiful.

hahahahaha go play Tekken then you Fuck...

BringBackReptile Wrote: hahahahaha go play Tekken then you Fuck...

Case in fucking point.

Well all I'm going to say is, it doesn't matter what anyone sayes, I will get a game that I think I will enjoy playing. If some one has a problem with a game or doesn't like it, that is their opinion. Some people like fighting games that is strictly based on fighting, the fighting engine, and nothing else.(i.e. Dead or Alive). I'm not saying this is bad, it is very good. Infact, DOA3 was one of the best fighting games I have ever played, not only visually, but mechanically.

I can see where some fighting game fans would not like MK simply because it is not as technical as other fighting games. It has never been a technical fighting game, but a kind of "pick up and play' fighting game that is still entertaining.

Anyway, I will be getting MK:D and DOA:U, because I have been waiting for some 3D fighters to play online.

I will close by saying, I am not here to bash other people because they voice their opinion but to respect their opinion. Bashing is not my stile.

I hope to meet everyone online, weather you play MK:D or DOA:U.

Take care,

anubis177

Hahaha OMG. Dude, you really think anyone cares if you bash the game!? It hasn't even come out yet! How can you bash and hate on something that isn't even finished!? LOL My God, and your calling Boon the loonie? Look in a mirror jackass! God, with all the insults your like a 5 year old child. Here's some adivce. I don't care if you tell me to **ck off or to shove it, just hear me out.

1. Wait till its out.
2. E-mail them and tell them. Not us. We actually like the series. Thats why we're here in the first place.
3. Grow up and stop insulting people.
4. Have patience.
5. Have some manners.
6. Give it a rest before you get banned or ignored.

Alright, the only non-negative thing that I can say about you Neuro is that you must be a fighting games purist. But on this board, you've been nothing but a troll. You get so many people on this board angry, and for what? Just for the sake of argument? Since you seem so eager to argue, I'll try to argue back. Not to tell you to go fuck yourself or anything like that, just to talk about the game and what you've said so far.

"Name recognition. It's widly accepted that MK:DA is garbage."

Accepted by who? Nearly every magazine and website gave it between an 8 and 9 out of 10. How's that garbage?

"At least he admitted that conquest mode was basically just a cornball quest mode ripoff."

Quest mode? Do you want to explain that? Like the one in Soul Caliber, SC2, and VF4? Actually, it's nothing like that. You're moving from place to place, interacting with NPCs. Your character ages. You give your character his moves. You can say that this is all fluff, but it doesn't change the fact that konquest mode in MK is NOT like other quest modes.

"...Then goes on to talk about conquest (seen plenty of times in Tobal, VF, etc)"

Now I KNOW you're a purist. Anyone that sites Tobal has to be. That game sold like crap, and the second game was never released here. You know why? Presentation. I'll take blood and gore and whatever you said over a guy in a damn chicken costume any day.

"We would've been happy with an evolved fighting engine."

But then goes on to say:

"MK was sensational because of blood and fatalities and big uppercuts, which hadn't been done before. It was decent."

So you say "we" in the first quote, implying that YOU are one of the FANS that would've been happy with an evolved fighting system. Then in the second quote, you say that the origins of the MK series were just "decent." ARE YOU A FAN OR AREN'T YOU!? Because if you're just a troll, whining about a game you don't like to piss off real fans, then fine, but don't sit here and act like you want this series to be better if you never liked it to begin with.

"Adding a contrived conquest mode is a lot easier than shoring up your animations"

Now this is just a dumb comment. Do you have any IDEA how many completely new animations are in the konquest mode?? I'll give you a clue: It's a LOT more than the amount of animation you're talking about shoring up. C'mon man, use your head.


Here's the thing. You can either accept MK for what it is now, or choose to dislike what the series has become within its own "microcosm." But it doesn't seem like you ever liked MK. If that's the case, then why post here? And don't give me some bullshit response like "because I can you tampon!" Really. Do you like this series? Have you ever? Because if you have, then you'd realize that MK is not, has never been, or ever will be Tobal or VF or Tekken or Soul Calibur or any other fighting game for that matter.

It has the blood, the guts, the graphics, the storyline, the fatalities, the minigames, the characters, etc etc etc. People should take the whole game for what it is, bitch about what they don't like, and argue you with people who don't share their view. If you don't like a character, fine. No problem. You think conquest mode is a dumb idea? Okay. But you're bashing this entire series, which makes no sense. Honestly man, grow up.

How this thread hasn't been closed yet is beyond me.

Neurotransmitter, you can't just do "whatever you like" here, because this is an internet forum, and it's guarded by moderators against flame wars. So don't act like you're the free cowboy here, you're just making a fool of yourself. Your posting was intentionally provocative and not thoughtful at all, because:

1. I've heard what you say 10 times before and in better wordings, with more nuances.

2. The flaming didn't really help in trying to build your case together, no matter how many airheaded fanboys pollute these forums with their own idiotic comments.

MKDA was not complete garbage (it was lightyears better than MK4). Sure, like someone else here said, it was not the prima donna of the fighting games, but don't act like it was Rise of the Robots. You don't have to act smug and superior because you feel you belong to an underground minority of fighting game experts. Bashing MK seems to have become their way to claim superiority over regular gamers and the gaming press. And that's sad.

Cheers,
VQ

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