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Finally figured it out....the entire purpose of MK
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posted11/12/2004 09:50 PM (UTC)by
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PsychoFight
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The real victim of Mortal Kombat.....is Outworld.

Yes, Outworld, the main bad guys. It has always been a realm run rampant with demons, torture, and its just an all-around bad place to live, right? However, that's because of the rulers. Onaga, Shao Kahn, etc. are tyrants whether for peace (Onaga) or war-crazed psychopaths (Shao Kahn). Overall, the people there just want to stop living in fear whether by Shao Kahn or just some crazy person / thing. They could give a crap about extending their realm to the far end of the universe. The ruler and his armies are all that make Outworld an evil place. The fact is - Outworld is the victim. It's a war-torn realm not just cause of Shao Kahn and Onaga, but because of alot of things. In the end, it is Outworld that needs the saving, not the fighting against.

I kind of just figured that out now. They're not the ultimate bad guys that we assumed them all to be.

Eh, I made this thread to kind of discuss in the end, what Mortal Kombat really stands for in the BIG scheme of things, and I think Outworld is one of them.
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queve
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 •11/11/2004 09:31 PM (UTC) •
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Very interesting. I think you make some very strong valid points .but then again, Outworld is no longer a realm populated by “humans”.

I mean, Outworld has become the center of the “warzones”.

It’s populated by the Tarkatan race, Centaurs, ruled by corrupt generals and assassins like Shokans, sorceress and Priests that work for a higher power like Shao Kahn and Onaga.

Although there are still some small villages like Lin Chen (Li Mei and her people) and others, its no longer a realm of humans. It belongs to the mutants and evil rulers of the realm.

Edenia was Outworld till it was finally separated. Before, I guess you could consider Outworld the victim, since Edenia has a very large population (earth like), but Outworld no longer holds that number of humans.

But either way, your points are valid.
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 •11/11/2004 10:47 PM (UTC) •
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funny... i thought the whole purpose of MK was to make Ed Boon and Midway money...
I thought the whole point of MK was, to give us false hope about supposedly secret crap.

I agree, Outworld is only evil because of it's leader.
Like the Taliban-run Afghanistan, or America.
The evil leaders don't speak for the good natured general poulation.



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 •11/12/2004 01:17 AM (UTC) •
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Why do you guys pull so much info. out of some video game talking about O this realm is blah blah it is just for enjoyment there is really no need to go into so much detail they made it for enjoyment and for them to make money.

Well that is just in my opinion
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 •11/12/2004 01:21 AM (UTC) •
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kodypowell Wrote:
Why do you guys pull so much info. out of some video game talking about O this realm is blah blah it is just for enjoyment there is really no need to go into so much detail they made it for enjoyment and for them to make money.

Well that is just in my opinion


I guess its fun to look deep into the storyline.

After all, we cant deny that MK has one of the best game storylines, with huge potential and interesting plot holes and facts.

Its fun to go deeper.
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 •11/12/2004 01:26 AM (UTC) •
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Ya I understand what you are saying I don't mean to bash it I like the whole story line thing but idk I guess it isn't fun for me going into detail and going beyond what you already have like making a real life situation out of it.
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 •11/12/2004 01:30 AM (UTC) •
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queve Wrote:
Very interesting. I think you make some very strong valid points .but then again, Outworld is no longer a realm populated by “humans”.

I mean, Outworld has become the center of the “warzones”.

It’s populated by the Tarkatan race, Centaurs, ruled by corrupt generals and assassins like Shokans, sorceress and Priests that work for a higher power like Shao Kahn and Onaga.

Although there are still some small villages like Lin Chen (Li Mei and her people) and others, its no longer a realm of humans. It belongs to the mutants and evil rulers of the realm.

Edenia was Outworld till it was finally separated. Before, I guess you could consider Outworld the victim, since Edenia has a very large population (earth like), but Outworld no longer holds that number of humans.

But either way, your points are valid.

While Outworld may be home to Tarkata, Centaurs, Shokan, and other monsters, the majority of its denizens encountered in Konquest are still humans. Besides, you think the Outworld shown in Konquest is the whole thing? All of Earthrealm certainly wasn't represented in Konquest. Who knows how big Outworld really is, or how many people it has? It could have ten times more than Earthrealm, for all we know.

Also, your point about the factor of the other species seems to assume that evil is inherent in certain people (or creatures), when in fact it's usually a product of conditioning and/or upbringing. Look at Goro; in MKG Kitana made him an ally to the forces of good. If anything, I think Goro's alliance with Shao Kahn was more for political reasons than the intent to cause suffering.
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 •11/12/2004 01:34 AM (UTC) •
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Actually, guys, Kuatan (the realm of Shokans) isn't part of Outworld. Sheeva's bio talks about "Kahn's loyalty to her race", and her ending said they were attacking her Shokan in their realm. Plus in the MKD bio for the Kuatan Palace, it said that Goro has ruled Kuatan for centuries.

So, it seems like Kahn actually has kind of a peace treaty or alliance with the Shokan rather than them actually being a part of Outworld.

The Centaurs, I'm not sure if they have a realm, but Outworld is definitely the native home of the Tarkatans.
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 •11/12/2004 01:38 AM (UTC) •
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XcarnageX Wrote:
queve Wrote:
Very interesting. I think you make some very strong valid points .but then again, Outworld is no longer a realm populated by “humans”.

I mean, Outworld has become the center of the “warzones”.

It’s populated by the Tarkatan race, Centaurs, ruled by corrupt generals and assassins like Shokans, sorceress and Priests that work for a higher power like Shao Kahn and Onaga.

Although there are still some small villages like Lin Chen (Li Mei and her people) and others, its no longer a realm of humans. It belongs to the mutants and evil rulers of the realm.

Edenia was Outworld till it was finally separated. Before, I guess you could consider Outworld the victim, since Edenia has a very large population (earth like), but Outworld no longer holds that number of humans.

But either way, your points are valid.

While Outworld may be home to Tarkata, Centaurs, Shokan, and other monsters, the majority of its denizens encountered in Konquest are still humans. Besides, you think the Outworld shown in Konquest is the whole thing? All of Earthrealm certainly wasn't represented in Konquest. Who knows how big Outworld really is, or how many people it has? It could have ten times more than Earthrealm, for all we know.

Also, your point about the factor of the other species seems to assume that evil is inherent in certain people (or creatures), when in fact it's usually a product of conditioning and/or upbringing. Look at Goro; in MKG Kitana made him an ally to the forces of good. If anything, I think Goro's alliance with Shao Kahn was more for political reasons than the intent to cause suffering.


I see what you are saying and I agree. You also have valid points. And while I do agree there are still many humans, I still think that most of its population is the mutants/monsters.

Humans have been pretty much annihilated in this world.
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 •11/12/2004 02:12 AM (UTC) •
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PsychoFight Wrote:
Actually, guys, Kuatan (the realm of Shokans) isn't part of Outworld. Sheeva's bio talks about "Kahn's loyalty to her race", and her ending said they were attacking her Shokan in their realm. Plus in the MKD bio for the Kuatan Palace, it said that Goro has ruled Kuatan for centuries.

So, it seems like Kahn actually has kind of a peace treaty or alliance with the Shokan rather than them actually being a part of Outworld.

The Centaurs, I'm not sure if they have a realm, but Outworld is definitely the native home of the Tarkatans.


The Centaurs, from what I know, were born within outworld. The Tarkatans from were aswell from the information given. But I know for a fact that Goro's race of Shokan's originate from under outworld (meaning under the surface). Watch the first Mortal Kombat film as there are several refferences to this. Also the promotional animated video released right before the movie even shows Goro fighting his brother to become the next leader and the battle takes place in a cave/cavern of sorts. Now, I know that the games and the films have some very large differences but seeing as how no further information was provided about the shokan origin this is the only one we have going for us.
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•11/12/2004 02:14 AM (UTC) •
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I've had a theory that Shokan (or possibly Kuatan) had been a separate realm taken over by Kahn many ages ago, as one of many different realms that make up reality.

They may have offered Kahn some deal where they surrendered the realm to him as long as they can still rule that area as long as Kahn ultimately rules it (If Outworld were like a "country", think of Shokan as a "state").

Also, the Tarkatans are a mutated hybrid of both Outworld denizens and Netherealm demons. As such, you run into the Tarkatans in both realms.
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 •11/12/2004 06:08 PM (UTC) •
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]{0MBAT Wrote:
I've had a theory that Shokan (or possibly Kuatan) had been a separate realm taken over by Kahn many ages ago, as one of many different realms that make up reality.

They may have offered Kahn some deal where they surrendered the realm to him as long as they can still rule that area as long as Kahn ultimately rules it (If Outworld were like a "country", think of Shokan as a "state").


Also, the Tarkatans are a mutated hybrid of both Outworld denizens and Netherealm demons. As such, you run into the Tarkatans in both realms.


That’s what I also think.

Kuatan was also mentioned to be a subterranean kingdom ruled by the half dragons-half human monsters.

Maybe it has always been part of Outworld subterranean world, or probably, it was just another great realm invaded and ruled by Kahn.
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•11/12/2004 06:13 PM (UTC) •
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I thought Outworld was a relam created by the fusion of other realms? In that sense, it is no wonder why there are so many different species, including humans in that realm. And of course, since Outworld was created by a being of evil, it is only logical that the realm reflect that by being in the ruins and tragedy that it is.
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 •11/12/2004 07:43 PM (UTC) •
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tgrant Wrote:
I thought Outworld was a relam created by the fusion of other realms? In that sense, it is no wonder why there are so many different species, including humans in that realm. And of course, since Outworld was created by a being of evil, it is only logical that the realm reflect that by being in the ruins and tragedy that it is.

No, I think Outworld is a realm of its own. It's kinda like the Roman Empire: there's Rome itself, and individual kingdom, that later conquered most of Europe (plus fringes of Africa and Asia). Similarly, Outworld was its own realm, then Kahn conquered Edenia, Zaterra, the vampire realm, etc. and they became sort of an Outworld empire.
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 •11/12/2004 08:54 PM (UTC) •
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tgrant Wrote:
I thought Outworld was a relam created by the fusion of other realms? In that sense, it is no wonder why there are so many different species, including humans in that realm. And of course, since Outworld was created by a being of evil, it is only logical that the realm reflect that by being in the ruins and tragedy that it is.


I think Outworld is its own realm. XcarnageX gave some excellent points on it.

I think Outworld first existed as a noble realm but was soon corrupted by Onaga and later by Shao Kahn. With their power, they managed to merge the lower realms they conquered and made Outworld a gigantic empire of tyranny and incredible power.

Only 2 of the realms that are no longer part of this world are: Edenia, and I think, the vampire realm.
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•11/12/2004 09:30 PM (UTC) •
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Well there was also another realm that got smashed by a similar orb (some random sidequest for Shujinko in MKD) but then who knows if that ever happened.

On a side note, it seems like Zaterra (the realm where Earth's raptors escaped to) was beaten by Kahn, but for some reason, never merged. At least what I inferred. Perhaps that realm had a powerful magic protecting it from mergers.
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 •11/12/2004 09:50 PM (UTC) •
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]{0MBAT Wrote:
Well there was also another realm that got smashed by a similar orb (some random sidequest for Shujinko in MKD) but then who knows if that ever happened.

On a side note, it seems like Zaterra (the realm where Earth's raptors escaped to) was beaten by Kahn, but for some reason, never merged. At least what I inferred. Perhaps that realm had a powerful magic protecting it from mergers.


My guess is that Kahn really hated the realm and saw no potential.

If Im not mistaken, it is revealed in Mk3 (MkU/T actually) that Shao Kahn was the being responsible for annihilating the Reptilian race.

Reptile discovers the truth and he faces Kahn in Mortal Kombat and wins.

Obviously his ending never happened since he never faced Kahn, and he still served him in MKDA.

Who knows, probably Kahn never liked Zaterra and destroyed the major part of the race, or probably, he is not the one who destroyed the race as its stated.
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