The ONLY Komplete Noob-Smoke guide worth studying.
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I decided to make this guide because a lot of people have asked me questions about playing with Noob-Smoke. I am not going to toot my own horn, but some people say that I am the best Noob-Smoke online. I personally dont agree, because I know of one (ONLY ONE) person who has a better Noob-Smoke than I do, and that's OA-NOOBE. I give him his credit.

Now, regarding this particular thread, since I am the one starting it, I reserve the right to ask the moderators to close it at my discretion.

MODS - I want this thread closed if:

1) People come on here yelling at me because they dont think I'm good with Noob-Smoke. Their opinions do not matter, this is the best guide for Noob-Smoke that will ever be released.
2) People who come here trying to challenge me. I am not posting this because I want or need any new enemies who want to"beat the great Noob-Smoke".
3) People decide to start flaming each other, insulting each other, or just flat out start shit-talking.

Those are my three rules. If you don't obey them, I will request that this thread be
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"Now, we come to it at last; the great battle of our time!"
|Gandalf The White|
In my personal opinion, Noob-Smoke is the highest of the top tiers for a lot of reasons. Some will argue that he is only good because of the fact that he has 6 different infinites. Others will argue that in their opinions, he isn’t the best because Bo Rai Cho is the best, according to the list. I will explain literally every single detail about both Noob and Smoke. Every detail down to the science, but first, let me give you a little background about me and my game-play.

I originated on the PS2 version of this game, simply because it was free and I hated the XBOX controller. I started playing the day this game came out, and at that time, I only used Scorpion. Damn that was about to change. I started to try and find my niche, and see who I thought I had beginner's skill with, and that took me onto Noob-Smoke. I chose him because of the way he made me feel when I played him against the computer.

You all know what I am talking about; The first time you played the computers Noob-Smoke, and he started switching up on you and doing those sick combos, he made you panic because you did not know what to expect. It was that panic that got me hooked on Noob-Smoke.

I have played well over 3,000 games on the PS2 alone using ONLY Noob-Smoke. I decided to learn this character inside and out, learn his recovery times for certain combos and moves, learn the way he reacted to certain hits, learn hit reaction to the frame rate, study how the character reacted to an opponent with a lag, study his high hits, and his low hits, and his hi/lo mix-ups. I studied everything about this character, and eventually realized that he was an elite character when I started doing a combo that even if my opponent has breakers, cannot be broken. Once this combo came along, it changed my whole opinion even more, and made me thirsty for knowledge.

Here is the examination of these characters.

Smoke

The first move that you NEED to learn is his U+4. This move will set up TONS of combos in the future, and just make the game a lot easier. It hits mid, so when they crouch down, or crouch down and block, this hit will catch them, and juggle them into the air, setting them up for other combos.

The next move you need to master is B+1. This move is UN-TECHABLE, which means that if the opponent has breakers, it will not matter, because this move cannot be broken. Smoke has a TON of moves like this. I will go into that later. This move also hits mid, so once again, if they crouch down or crouch and block, it will catch them. This is an EXCEPTIONAL move, because immediately after this move, you can walk up to them, sidestep (press Up or Down), and get a FREE throw. (100% un-block able throw). This move appears also in Noobs game-play. Noob has a combo that goes: 1, 1, CS. When you press CS, Noob switched into Smoke, and the move that comes out is AUTOMATICALLY Smokes B+1. Learn this move inside and out.

The next move needed to have a successful Smoke, is his actual Smoke Cloud. You do this by pressing U,D+1. This move is SUPER fast, and catches opponents off guard if times right. It has two purposes; tricking your opponent, and/or keeping them away from you so you can have a second or two to think about your next move. This can either be a wall AGAINST your opponent, or a wall to TRAP your opponent in the corner and not let them out.

Last move that matters with Smoke is the Dark Assassin. (D,B+2). This move is good to use in custom combos, and very rarely catches your opponent during regular game-play.

Honestly, as a user of Smoke, his programmed combos are as useless as tits on a bullfrog. They are slow, breakable, and easy to predict.

NOTE: Smoke is the SLOWER of the two. He is only good if played in an AGGRESSIVE style. People who do nothing but hide behind smoke clouds often get ambushed and ambushed badly.

A lot of people will ask, so below, I will post some custom combos that are COMPLETELY effective.

30% Damage, ends with Smokes plant move, B+1.
Throw, Teleport Punch (F,F+4), Dark Assassin (D,B+2), B+1
Note: You can walk up, sidestep, and get a free throw after this combo.

50/50 Mix-Ups;
Noob-Smoke is the KING of 50/50 Mix-Ups. What a 50/50 mix-up is, essentially, is a guessing game. You get up close and personal to your opponent, and you make him GUESS if you are going to hit him high, or low. In essence, if he thinks you will hit him high, he will BLOCK high, allowing him to be THROWN. If he thinks that you will hit him LOW, he will crouch down, and block LOW. In this case, press U+4 and combo of your choice, OR B+1, combo of your choice.

Some of my favorite 50/50s with Smoke are:

55% Damage, ends with Smokes plant move, B+1.
Throw, Teleport Punch (F,F+4), Dark Assassin (D,B+2), B+1, Sidestep, Free Throw, Teleport Punch (F,F+4), Dark Assassin (D,B+2), B+1
Note: This is considered an infinite by some. People will hate you if you use this combo.

30%, followed by another 30%, ends with Smoke’s B+1 plant move
Teleport Punch (F,F+4), Dark Assassin (D,B+2), B+1, Walk Up, IF THEY BLOCK LOW U+4, Dark Assassin (D,B+2), B+1, walk up, and use your own 50/50 from this point.

85% Combo, SOME could consider it an infinite because of all the free throws
Throw, Teleport Punch (F,F+4), Dark Assassin (D,B+2), B+1, DEEP Jump Kick, Free Throw, Teleport Punch (F,F+4), Dark Assassin (D,B+2), B+1, Sidestep, Free Throw, B+1

Now, two other moves that Smoke has are lethal. These are what are considered his poke moves;

D+1, this is a crouching punch that knocked your opponent away slightly. It hits LOW. If your opponent is in a corner, and you successfully hit them with the D+1, you can get a GUARANTEED free throw.

D+3, this is a sort of sliding sweep kick that is VERY fast, hits low, but is slightly slower than the D+1.

Now, here is the deal with the above mentioned two moves; if your opponent is blocking HIGH, the D+1 will hit him and be successful. Another good move to try automatically after this D+1 is a throw, as I said. After the throw, you can do the above mentioned 30% combo on them.

Using the D+3, I would suggest only using this move after a successful D+1 connects. For some reason, people have problems blocking low and mid, so these hits usually always work. But ONLY USE THIS TACTIC if your opponent is trapped in a corner!

If they are in a corner, try to do this 'combo':
D+1, D+1, D+1, D+3, Throw

Basically you are repeating the D+1, and when they try to escape from it, they will either sidestep, or try to attack you. Either way, the D+1 is fast and will stop their sidestep AND their attack. If you successfully hit them with the D+3, it makes them stumble forward, as if they just tripped on something while walking. They will be on their hands and knees, and because of this animation, if you immediately throw after the D+3 connects, you get ANOTHER free throw, which you can combo off of.

Some strategies with Smoke:

Rush them. Quickly get as close as possible to them, as if your about to attack, and then QUICKLY do a smoke cloud. What will most likely happen is they will attack you trying to stop your rush, and their attack will force them RIGHT INTO the smoke cloud, which you can then combo off of.

If they are trapped in the corner, use my above mentioned method: D+1 a lot, and if you successfully connect with one, TAKE THE FREE THROW and combo after it.

If you EVER see your opponent blocking low, QUICKLY hit them with U+4, and do a combo.

If you want to take HIGH damage and you see them blocking low, use Smokes B+1. This will plant them, walk up, sidestep, get the free throw, and do whatever combos you see fit.

Stay away from certain characters. If you see that your opponent has significantly more energy than you, throw out a lot of smoke clouds, and hide behind them. Time them correctly, and you will eventually catch them in one of them, and then combo your ass off.

When Smoke is knocked down, he can do an auto-recovery move as he gets up. TIME IT CORRECTLY; AS your standing up, do his Smoke cloud. This move is so fast that I have done in IN THE MIDDLE of my opponents combo. Mess with it, use timing.

If you see that your opponent keeps on rushing you, start to use a lot of poke moves, namely the D+1, and D+3. The D+3 has a longer range than the D+1, and will usually stun your opponent, and take them off the offense, and put them onto the defense when you charge them after you connect with the D+3.

MIX UP the 50/50s with Smoke! After you do the B+1 move, walk up, sidestep and throw a lot. If you do this enough, you will train your opponent, and they will automatically start to block low. PURPOSEFULLY let them block low once. They will think they are the smartest thing around, and then you can hit them with U+4, Dark Assassin (D,B+2), B+1, and repeat.

Train yourself: The second you see them blocking low, press U+4 and combo. Train yourself. The SECOND you see them blocking high, Throw them, and combo. It’s a win/win situation.

And now, we move onto:

Noob:

Noob is so fast that it is retarded. He has an AWESOME combo that is so fast most people can not break it in time. That combo is: 1, 1, CS, which brings in Smoke, and read the entire section above for moves with Smoke. When Smoke comes in, he automatically connects with the B+1 move, so you can sidestep/throw until your heart is content.

Noob is ALSO an extremely good hi/lo competitor, but he IS the weaker of the two, even though he is still VERY strong.

The first move you need to learn with Noob is simply, 4.

When you press 4, they have to be blocking low, crouching, or not blocking at all. He smacks them down to the ground, where they bounce up and you can juggle them.

IMMEDIATELY follow up 4 with ANY of the following moves:

F+1 > This is a plant move, and gives you time to keep on charging them, and making them guess what’s coming next.

Or

D,B+2 > After you connect with the 4, immediately do this move. It’s ALSO a plant maneuver, and after this move, you can SIDESTEP and get ANOTHER free throw. (Yes, Noob has them too.)

Or

D+2 > This is a very fast uppercut that also is un-techable, and gives you time to keep charging them by the time they hit the floor.

Do all of these in a corner, and your God.

The next move to learn with Noob is D+4. This is very much like Smokes D+1, but with the effects of Smoke’s D+3. This move is VERY fast, hits LOW, and stops the opponent dead in their tracks. No one ever expects to be hit by this move for some reason.

Corner Traps:
Noob is truly a corner trapping character. Here, his speed, hi/lo game, and mind-fucks come into play.

When your opponent is in a corner, keep on using the 4, and D+4 as freely as you can. Personally, I always alternate. When I trap my opponent in the corner, I look for two things: The opening to throw them, and the opening to hit them with 4.

If I connect with 4, I will immediately press:
F+1. . . D+4, 4... D,B+2

What that does is this:
After you connect with the 4, they will bounce up. Press F+1, and it knocks them down again. Press D+4, because it will hit low, and after that, press 4 again. When they bounce up, press D,B+2, and it will PLANT them back on the floor.

Continue the above combo with this:
. . . Sidestep, Free Throw, D,B+2. . . (To be continued)

What this does is:
After you connect with the above mentioned combo, keep on with this. When you sidestep, you will guarantee yourself ANOTHER free throw. After that throw, you are GUARANTEED to connect with a D,B+2 if your opponent is in the corner.

Continue the above 2 combos with this:
Sidestep, Throw, 2, 1, 3. . . B+3

What this does is:
After you connect with the above mentioned combos, keep on with this. Sidestep, get ANOTHER free throw, and IMMEDIATELY press 2, 1, 3.. This is what is called a GLITCH combo. It is a glitch, because with Noob, if you throw your opponent in a corner, and press those buttons, they will connect and do MORE DAMAGE because it is still technically connected to the throw. Immediately AFTER you connect with the 2, 1, 3 combo, press B+3. Noob will rush forward with a LOW powerful kick that is GUARANTEED to connect with your opponent after the 2,1,3 combo in the corner.

Noob, explained.
Noob, though fast and powerful, is one ENORMOUS glitch. This entire character is a glitch. He has TWO infinites alone, has 3 corner GLITCH combos, and a bunch of other moves that aren’t supposed to be there.

Examples:

D,B+2, Sidestep, Free Throw

Throw (Anywhere on stage), F,F+3 (into Smoke) Guaranteed hit.

(Corner) Throw, GUARANTEED D,B+2. Sidestep, FREE THROW, ANOTHER guaranteed D,B+2.

There are many, but those are the best known ones.

Noob is a corner-trap fighter, and isn not AS good as Smoke is when played center-stage. However, he is great with mind-fucks, and hi/lo games.

Strategies for Noob:
Every time you connect with 4, do D,B+2, Sidestep, Throw, F,F+3. This combo does A LOT of damage (About 45% altogether) but is breakable at 1 point: in the beginning, when you try the 4. Watch out for that.

After you connect with 4, press F+1. This is a un-techable combo, does about 17%.

If you see your opponent blocking LOW, you can ALSO press B+2. It is an uppercut move that takes 14% damage. Follow that up IMMEDIATELY by D,B+2, Sidestep, Free Throw, F, F+3. Another combo that does big damage.

Rush right up to your opponent, and then stand there for a split second; See what they do. If they block HIGH, throw them into F, F+3. If they block LOW, press 4, D,B+2, Sidestep, Free Throw into F,F+3.

If they block high, you can ALSO press D+4, and then try to follow it up by EITHER a 4 (if they block low) or a THROW (if they block high).

ANOTHER useful technique to use is as follows: Noobs invisibility. NORMALLY, do NOT use this feature unless you are an EXPERT Noob player, but in this instance, it is a GREAT mind fuck. Do this:

U,D+1 > When he turns invisible, he makes a nice, big noise. This noise is the whole reason this move was invented. DO NOT USE THIS MOVE WHEN CLOSE TO YOUR OPPONENT. Use it ONLY full screen away.

Invisible Strategy > The SECOND you turn invisible, even though your opponent KNOWS you are a full screen away, they will automatically block. This works 98% of the time. Once they realize, in that SPLIT second that they feel stupid for blocking, they will let go of the block button. You are counting on this. The SECOND you turn invisible, start pressing in the button commands for one of Noobs two teleport moves. Either F,F+3, or D,B+3. This will bring Smoke in, but 98% of the time, it will connect knocking the shit out of them unexpectedly.

If you connect with the F,F+3, immediately do the smoke cloud after this move connects. It will stun them when it hits, but not to a ton of damage. This is strictly a mind fuck move.

If you connect with the D,B+3 teleport, it will knock your opponent across the screen. IMMEDIATELY after connecting with that move, start pressing F,F+3, because no one hardly ever expects a SECOND teleport move to come in a row, and its usually connectable. Approximately 90% of the time it will connect.


This is the skinny of it, I hope that this guide has helped some of you, I know that a lot of this stuff is shit that hardly anyone knows, and I did the best I could to explain things and how they work. I also disclosed some of the most secret combos on this board, as literally only a few people know about them, and I would literally say less than 5. Me being one of them.

I pass this knowledge onto you, so that maybe people can stop hating on Noob-Smoke, and realize that he is one of the best characters in the game, and one of the most talented with hi/lo and 50/50. If anyone has any questions about this guide, please feel free PM me or send me an IM, I will answer any and all questions that you may have for me.

My AIM/AOL name is: DooMsDaY oF NYC

Please, leave all feedback and comments in this thread, and RESPECT THE RULES I MENTIONED above. If you do not, I will request that the mods close this thread, and completely remove it from the forums.

Thanks, and have fun dominating your competition.

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04/01/2005 05:20 AM (UTC)
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I welcome any and all comments on this guide, as I stated above. Feel free to let the questions and knowledge flow. This is literally only to help everyone here out. I hope you all find this useful, as I put alot of time and effort into discovering these methods and game play tactics for you to study now as well.
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redsaleen02
04/01/2005 06:27 AM (UTC)
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thank u doom for showing us all how broken n/s is...


ok my brc guide.... f+ 3 , walk up, throw repeat.. lol

sorry its so long, took we weeks to learn. doom u also forgot the most important move, that it seems all the supertsars are using online lately. the walk and jump over before the rd starts for the free throw.


good thread thou.... even though we all no 5 % of the people hav the reflexes to master n/s, the way u explained.
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04/01/2005 07:03 AM (UTC)
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Hey, people not having the reflexes isn't something I can help, man.

I have told and shown people how to do the moves, I helped with the strategies, the rest is all on their shoulders. If they don't have the reflexes, all I can say is that practice makes perfect, so get to practicing, guys. :)
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Quito
04/01/2005 07:19 AM (UTC)
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why your wasting your time to making a guide for N/S?
Get a life man :(
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B0bbYBLaZe
04/01/2005 07:35 AM (UTC)
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bobby thinks someone has a little bit to much time on their hands. but hey, this is better then doomsdays three page essay's on why n/s's infinities are 'FAIR'.
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04/01/2005 07:39 AM (UTC)
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I did the guide simply because contrary to popular belief, alot of people consider me one of the best Noob-Smoke's online, and if only you could all read my PMs, I get at least 1 PM a day about someone wanting me to teach them how to use Noob-Smoke.

In answer to Quito's question, I answer WITH a question: Why do you create a guide for ANY character? Maybe someone out there will find it helpful, maybe someone out there can add some things, maybe someone out there is trying to learn how to play as Noob-Smoke, I don't know.

Why is it that NITEKIN creates a guide for Shujinko, and everyone praises him, he gets dragon points, the whole works, and then here I am, DooMsDaY oF NY, creating a guide for Noob-Smoke, and all people can do is give me shit for it?

Last time I checked, the guide I just put out was better than the one you put out, Quito, and bobby... wait.... you guys never DID put a guide out, my bad.

So just read it guys, and follow the rules I requested. Thats all I've asked. Is that so hard? I didn't even start this thread nor write this guide to be confrontational, I did it to help people understand the character, and the way he works.

Is that so wrong?
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m2dave
04/01/2005 07:55 AM (UTC)
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Edit:WTF was that? LOL.I swear I didn't type that.It was some error from the site. Also,someone contact the admins about this shit.
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04/01/2005 07:58 AM (UTC)
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I'm trying to fix my crap as well. I was just asking what you said, and to give us the english translation this time. *lol*
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B0bbYBLaZe
04/01/2005 08:00 AM (UTC)
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ok, this is probably the only time your going to hear anything positive coming from bobby blaze towards you but this is a special occasion. putting our dislike for each other aside. This seems appropriate, gamer-to-gamer. After reading most of your guide. I have come to the conclusion that you probably spent a bit of time creating this. Due to the fact that it seems to be very in depth. Not to mention that bobby has witnessed your noob-smoke against fattmatt. It was an all-out assualt. So this goes out to anyone on these forums looking to master noob-smoke. Doomsdays guide is the key. There, you wanted yours? well, you got it. EDIT: LOL, WTF. my whole post came out in '1337' typing. lol, mko got jakked.
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m2dave
04/01/2005 08:03 AM (UTC)
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Anyway,nice strategies!

N/S is indeed one of the best in the game.BRC is better though if the N/S player doesn't abuse infinite combos.And N/S is about eqaul with Dairou excluding the infinite combos.

Unfortunately,some N/S players tend to abuse the side step into free throw glitch and call it a "50/50 mix up".In that case,I strongly suggest using an infinite combo on them.
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04/01/2005 08:10 AM (UTC)
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*lol*

I must disagree, m2dave - I wouldn't suggest using infinate combos on anyone, thats the key reason I tried to leave them out of the guide.

There were a few references to them, but as far as I know... (And trust me, I know alot about these characters!) Noob-Smoke has something like 8 infinate combos. (4 for Smoke, and 4 for Noob!!!)
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m2dave
04/01/2005 08:15 AM (UTC)
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I don't use infinite combos myself.How could I?Dairou doesn't even have any.He's quite a glitch-free character if you look at it from a logical perspective.

However,if some N/S player did b+1, walk up,side step,free throw into a combo,I'd either pick BRC,Darrius,Ashrah,etc. and infinite them.
PS:Dude,you need to return to PS2 a little bit.I want to play an N/S player now that Noobe seems to be gone.Jun is back too.
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04/01/2005 08:24 AM (UTC)
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I would consider it if you paid me. *lmao*

No, seriously, I would think about it, but I won't lie, its close to nill. Since transferring over to the XBOX, I haven't even wanted to take a look backwards. You should try it for like, a month. I swear you'll never go back to the PS2, for a ton of reasons.
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04/01/2005 09:16 AM (UTC)
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very good, I can see you aren't afraid to use any means necesasry to win.
Such like infinites. Could you do a Hotaru essay too? From my beginners
experience I think he is a pretty good distance player and juggler.
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04/01/2005 09:28 AM (UTC)
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Actually, me and Konqrr, as we speak, are working on some new combos for Noob-Smoke.

THUS FAR, we have done and tested NINE infinate combos with Noob-Smoke, which will NOT be revealed here.

But we have also discovered AND tested the following combos:

Noob-Smoke - 118%
Noob-Smoke - 108%
Noob-Smoke - 102%
Noob-Smoke - 100%

Now people, just think about this: 1 character, that has 9 DIFFERENT infinate combos, FOUR 100+% combos, and a smoke cloud for turtling.

And then tell me, WHY exactly isn't Noob-Smoke #1 on the tier list? Well, we're working on that. I'm not saying things WILL change, but hell, they might.

Also, to that guy who had asked for the Hotaru guide, I may refer you to good players that you can STUDY from, but I don't play with Hotaru. Actually, I don't even have him unlocked on my XBOX version. So for that I do apologize. Look around though, Hotaru guides have GOT to be out there somewhere man.
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04/01/2005 09:46 AM (UTC)
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Already checked, none.

Sad, he pretty good damage wise sometimes.
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Currently working on: MKD & MKA - The One Ring Theory
04/01/2005 10:38 AM (UTC)
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Great guide! This'll be somewhat useful and hopefully will make the Darrius cheesers back off online! Lol!
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Skaven13
04/01/2005 04:04 PM (UTC)
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Wow wow and wow. N/S is one of my favs next to Sindel, and that was...wow.
Didn't know there was so much stuff in there that could be so easily abused.
Not sure I will use them, but thanks.
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redsaleen02
04/01/2005 04:09 PM (UTC)
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lol, noticed the word. ABUSED ... time to learn dariou and be a t/s dropping whore.
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04/01/2005 04:51 PM (UTC)
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Good work Doomsday. Thank you for making this.

VQ
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04/01/2005 07:53 PM (UTC)
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No problem, guys. I just thought that I would post this, because of a couple of reasons, one of them being that Noob-Smoke is an excellent anti-Dairou character. Being that BRC, N/S, and Dairou are all god tiers, I figured that I would put something up so that Noob-Smoke could be UNDERSTOOD, rather than hated.

Yes he's broken. Yes, he's glitchy. But now that he's been explained, hopefully there won't be such resentment torwards him. *lol*

Keep your eyes peeled, I'm going to hit up a Shujinko guide sometime real soon as well, but its not as 'damaging' as the Noob-Smoke one. :)
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04/02/2005 06:53 AM (UTC)
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Does anyone else have anything they would like to add, or include in the guide?

Anything that anyone disagrees with? All comments are welcome. :)
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m2dave
04/02/2005 06:37 PM (UTC)
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And then tell me, WHY exactly isn't Noob-Smoke #1 on the tier list? Well, we're working on that. I'm not saying things WILL change, but hell, they might.

Because the tier list wasn't based on the infinite combos,much less the side step glitches.If there ever were to be a real tournament,all these things would be banned because every moron can get a free throw after b+1 if you show him.Every moron can also do d+1,Throw in corner and repeat it.This is what makes the game bad.

Anyway,I think BRC is better than N/S.He's equal with Dairou.I played Noobe,and he had immense trouble beating me when I used Dairou a few months ago.
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