Stryker. He just looks and feels like he does not belong in the MK universe.

Sheeva- She's dead... and not popular enough to bring back.

Jarek- Rip off of Kano. There's no point in sticking him in another game... just put Kano in instead.

Motaro- I liked him, but he's dead after all... no need to come back again.

Tanya- I hate her. Her storyline in dry and boring... it's essentially unchanged from MK4. They haven't developed her enough and this was her last chance, in my eyes.

Mokap- No comment

Meat- Even though he appears in Konquest mode... I still don't like thinking of him as 'real'.

Johnny Cage: Never had much of a storyline. I know he's a comic relief character and all, but so is Bo' Rai Cho and at least Bo' Rai Cho has something decent of a storyline.

Jax: To me, the only good thing he ever did was kill Hsu Hao. Other than that, I think he's quite useless. His story is bland. I hated the attitude he had in MKDA with the sayings as well as his horrible alternate costume and fatality. He should just head back to Earthrealm and stay there.

Hsu Hao: there wasn't really much to him though he did have significance in his storyline; either way, he's dead and I don't think he should come back

Stryker: I feel he has no potential and I wouldn't like to see him in another MK. I don't get that MK feel from him at all.

Sheeva: relatively pointless character who should stay dead. good thing she killed Motaro though

Motaro: he's served his purpose in the MK3 storyline and thanks to Sheeva, he's dead.

Kano: his storyline has gotten repetitive in the sense that he backstabs and stuff. his defeat at the hands of Mavado was welcomed

Jarek: although he has more guts than Kano, I just don't like this guy very much

Kobra: pointless character who doesn't really have that much of an MK feel

Tanya: the queen bitch of them all...what can I say...well, she's ugly, cheap, has an annoying voice, a terrible storyline and overall, she should die and never come back

Sonya: Boring, worthless, crappy story, and doesn't fit in the MK universe

Tanya: I've never ever liked her either. Boring character.

Mokap: No explanation needed.

Stryker: See Mokap

Jarek: Rip off of Kano

Sheeva: Is dead and should stay dead

Motaro: See Sheeva

Johnny Cage: I pray that he dies soon

Kobra: See Sonya

Bo Rai Cho: Yeah, his story got a bit better but I still think he sucks

Kai: We already have Kung Lao.

Reiko: I seriously never want to see him return. I just can't stand him lol.

Meat: Unless he gets a good story, he's pretty much worthless

Hsu Hao - Boring all around character. Nothing special. All he did was take orders from his master Mavado.... boring. He had 0% character

Kai - Boring

Li Mei - Too human and nothing that stands out about her.

Havik- To me like most of MK Deception's cast, they have no character to them at all. Boring typical for what he stands for.Havik doesn't really stand for anything , that is why I don' t care for him.

Darrius - So so boring looking , this holds true to both of his costumes. Overall doesn't add much to MK at all.

Hotaru - He could have been a great new character, but again he falls to plainness. He is basicly a cop that follows a extreame justice system. Thats all he is. No character at all. He boring and has no place in a MK game.

Kobra - Again a boring character. His storyline almost has nothing inportant to the MK storyline. He is just some kid that is looking for some excitment. Overall not inportant enough to warrent a return ever.

Dairou - One of the worst designs for a character in MK history IMO. Also his(most of MK Deception's new characters) storyline is no importants to the overall MK storyline. Again boring.

Kira - Kira to me is one of those boarder line characters. She has her own style in terms of her look, but she is lame when it comes to her story and fighting styles. To me "terrorist" has she was called in her bio has no place in MK. Sure we have ninjas, Shoalin Monks, mutants, demi gods,military org, and Criminal orgs. If the MK team can't give her a broader storyline other than a terrorist she shouldn't return.

Mention but worthy of another try is Nightwolf. Nightwolf had a good storyline in the MK3 series( good fighter too), but in Deception his story seemed of weak. I mean he comes back just to fight the Dragon King? A more broader issue could have be introducted for his return.

Tayna - Ok she is a traitor.She was a traitor in MK4 and Deception. We pretty much got her down. I never liked her much. Her desgin in MK4 was pretty good looking, but she lacked style( Like MK4 to me IMO, still an ok game though). In Deception she was bland looking and her story was the same as MK4, just a different person. think she can be inproved. I hope the MK team drops her if they can't find any other thing else besides a traitor.

edit forgot Jerek
Bo Rai Cho needs to go as well. I don't like his character at all.

Johnny Cage-He's so stale and boaring, unless he had a complete character change he needs to go.

Sonya-Never liked her anyway, so id be glad to see her go.

Stryker-Self Explanitory

Jarek-He's gay

God im gonna get crucified for this. but...
Scorpion-He's just become so stale to me, even with this chosen one storyline, i still have lost all interest in him, he used to be my fav up until MK4 and now im tired of him.

Scorpion not being in an MK game is very unlikely, but some that I have to add to the list would have to be Onaga, Quan Chi, and Kabal.
Deception was Onaga's time to shine, and he really dosen't need to ever be back as a boss. I never did like Quan Chi, but he seemed to be popular enough to be in most of the MK games and I believe he has had his time. Kabal was almost like Stryker to me back in the MK3 days. Him returning to Deception meant as much to me as if it would have been Stryker. I guess its just where we all would rather see the more magical or supernatural characters rather than people who would be in real life like Sonya, Jax, Kano, ect.

I don't want Liu Kang back. I really hate that guy. STFU Liu!

Wow, there actually seems to be somewhat of a concensus on this board as to who we all don't want to see anymore...ever. I agree with most of what has been said so far:

Motaro: Just looked silly. I laughed every time I saw him in MK3, UMK3, and Trilogy.

Mokap: Duh.

Johnny Cage: Maybe he can make a movie about not being in the next tournament, or any other tournament again, that way I don't have to suffer through the same damn ending he's had since MK1 again.

Meat: See Mokap.

Sonya: sorry, but the special forces thing is played out to me. They tried to turn it into this interdimentional task force, but Sonya stayed the same. Still boring after all these years. They need a hardcore, shadowy, black ops type if they're going to do something special forces.

Dairou: I hate to say it, but I think he really should've stayed a character concept. Arguably the worst storyline in MK:D.

Stryker: Same as you all said. He has no potential, and he never fit into the MK universe to begin with.

Kobra: Very bland character with not one interesting move and a lame storyline.

Jarek: Yeah, deep six the Nu-Metal Kano. His goatee was fearsome, but...well, okay, he didn't even have that going for him.

Reiko: Hey look, it's Johnny Cage 30 years from now, and he's doing a racoon impression! Pass...

Sheeva: She's dead. Plus, I think that if they put a Shokan in MK7 it should be someone completely new. King Gorbak perhaps?

Havik: My biggest disappointment with MK:D. How does a guy that looks that freakin COOL have such a horrible story, two fighting styles that were ripped off from MK:DA and such sucktacular special moves!?

Blaze: See Mokap

There are a few others as well, but these are the main ones by far.

Well i realize that, the world would end if either scorp or sub wasnt in a game, i just stated that i think he's boring and I (key word there) wouldent mind if he didnt return. But he will never go, he is Mortal Kombat.

Reiko, Rain,they both have no character, and they both sucked big time. Not to mention we have enough ninjas already. Besides, partially except for Rains water ball, they moves weer simply bland and unoriginal.

Tanya, Liu Kang, aren't that interesting now. Pardon, Tanya had no character ever snice. Survivalist or not, he doesn't have a solid standing ground.

Jax is a great character in my opinion, but I think he has to retire now. One last game should suffice. Sonya is a must BTW.

Darrius is a fallout. However his storyline strongly ties in with Dairous and Hotaru/Havik whom I adore. Maybe one last game and he gets killed.

Bo Rai Cho- Ruined by unfunny farting and puking. Do Midway find him hilarious? No one else does, get out.

Kobra- Street Fighter's Ken Masters repackaged as an expendable thug, who makes Jarek and Hsu Hao look cool.

Reiko- Without the annoying Kahn/Reiko debate, he really has nothing. A Pointless creation.

Tanya- MK's worst comeback. Wasn't very good before, and seems to have only come back to be Jade's bitch.

Shujinko- Potentially good idea, completely screwed up. An unlikeable "hero" forced down our throats by having his own nonsense adventure, and making MKD revolve around him.

Shinnok- MKs worst boss, Shang Tsung minus any coolness. Worst of MK4's mostly dull newcomers.

Cyrax- Sorry guys, I've just never liked him. Was never really into the cyborgs, but I suck with Cyrax, so he's my worst.

Mokap, Meat, Khameleon and Chameleon were just pointless space fillers really. I don't really count them as "real" MK characters.

Characters who could MAYBE come back in the future, but need serious work are,

Fujin- Boring
Rain- A pallete swap too far
Hsu Hao- Good fighter, everything else sucked
Blaze- Last minute filler, but with potential
Moloch- Seemed cool in concepts with the crow and stuff
Dairou- Give him some less dumb looking moves
Ashrah- Boring
Hotaru- Awkward to play as, but a great character otherwise
Jax- Has gotten really stale after MK3
Liu Kang- Also got really stale, after MK2
Nightwolf- Improved, but still just kinda average
Jarek- Boring Kano ripoff, but I have a soft spot for this idiot

I won't take into account the MK:D Characters, nor any information about other characters revealed in Konquest, as I've yet to play the game.

Kano: I hope that Mavado got his chance and finally got rid of him.

Johnny Cage: He died; sometimes a hero needs to take the fall and stay in the ground *cough* Liu Kang *cough*.

Liu Kang: Well, if he doesn't reunite with his body, he'll be okay, but otherwise, see Johnny Cage.

Goro: Very overrated, I don't see why Kintaro didn't replace him as the favorite Shokan and make his return in MK4 and so on.

Shan Tsung: Why does he keep coming back? Why?! Just let him age and have a heart-attack or something. If he comes back with morphs though, and his old, MK1 look, I'd be satisfied.

Baraka: A nut-job who just runs around killing things, wahoo. [/sarcasm] As fun as that is, it's gotten old.

Chameleon: If they aren't going to expand on his story, then he should not exist anymore.

Kai: He just didn't grab me, seemed too bland.

Jarek: He died, and Kabal's making a new Black Dragon clan, so let there be more new members.

Tanya: Too boring, too stereotypical traitor.

Shinnok: Shang Tsung rip-off, but he can be redeemed if he no longer uses impersonations to fight.

Hsu Hao: I thought he was okay, but I like the way he was finished off in Jax's MK:DA ending (assuming that it happened), and would like to keep it that way.

Frost: No more ice people, two Sub-Zero's were/are enough.

Mokap: Actually, I consider him redeemable as well, since all it really takes is a new storyline.

Kai - He is just boring.

Shujinko - I don't find him interesting at all.

Bo'Rai Cho - I couldn't believe he was back on MKD. Well now he needs to take a break in MK7.

Drahmin - I really don't care for him, his story was interesting. However his moves and combos were not that good.

Jarek - I don't think he should return. He is just another Kano, everyone knows that.

Meat - He is not real..so why should he return?

Mokap - No explanation needed.

Dairou - I just hope he doesn't come back on MK7.

Jarek -How does he do the laser eye!?

Reiko -A maroon, maskless, and old version of Rain. Nothing good

Shinnok -Shang Tsung wannabe, and it never said what he was the god of!

Kai -Looks like Kenshi before the blinding thingy

Sheeva -Just keep her dead

Hotaru -He's gay and I keep calling him Motaro or Kintaro...

Hsu Hao -We already got the Simpsons, we don't need more yellow people

Mavado -Kabal with plastic surgery and no mask

Goro- overrated

Uhh... That's it

woooow, leave LI MEI out, KIRA, AND TANYA


========== LI * MEI ================

To me Li Mei could be cool. I like her fighting styles in MK: DA.Outfit wise her normal outfit in MK: DA is great. I dislike her Alt in MK: DA and her normal and alt in Deception.To me she has no style. She is just a villager that knows how to fight.Other than that we don't much out of her. If the MK team can boarden her storyline and give her some more character I would love for her to come back. As of now ( to me ) she is just to human.I need some above human characters in MK to be cool. Since MK4 alot of the new characters have been too human. Where as past MK games ( MK1- MKT) the new character were very outworldish.

but atleast she's not a ripp off of another character thats in the game
(SUB-ZERO>>>>>FROST)

I totally DISagree with you. New characters being outworldish?!?! Ok.... sure... there were characters like Reptile, Mileena, Baraka, and Cyrax that were introduced. However, if you take the first game into consideration, the protagonists of the game were all very HUMAN! (Aside from Raiden of course). Liu Kang, Johnny Cage, and Sonya were definately not outworldish at all which gave the fans people to relate to.

MK4, Deadly Alliance, and Deception introduced some very outworldish characters such as: Shinnok, Quan Chi, Nitara, Drahmin, Moloch, Havik, Ashrah, Havic, and the Dragon King!

My point is... theres nothing wrong with human charcters. They are my favorite actually. Liu Kang, Tanya, Rain, Jade, Sonya, Jax, Li Mei, Kitana, Dairou, Shujinko, Sub Zero, Bo Rai Cho, Kenshi, and Kung Lao are all favorites. I don't see anything worng with Midway's creative team what so ever.

And I wont even get started on storylines.

Frost isn't just a plain character. MK history has tought us just because they look the same doesn't mean they handle the same. Take a look at the pallet swap ninjas in MK1-MKT especilly the MK3 series.Lets take Scorpion and Ermac. both look the same but don't play the same in terms of what you can do. This holds true with Frost and Sub especially fighting style wise. MK: DA's Konquest gave her a personity of a eager,fast learning,powerfull, mysterious character. Frost may look like Sub and have some of his old special moves, but she is a faster less powerfull character than Sub Zero is. Sub -Zero is opposite of what Frost is he is the slower but more powerfull. Sort of a moif of what Reptile, Scorp,Rain, Noob, Ermac ect have been in the past. They are many questions that have yet to be answered and I am not just talking about where she came from. Where as others I've mentioned above I feel have no real inportants. I don't mean to turn this into defend my fav character thread.





Yeah, but since day one there stories come across from real kick as pop culture icons or truely great ideas and have there own ****style***. Pop curture icons like Bruce Lee was to Liu Kang the young noble marshal artist that enters to when it back from the evil Shang Tsung . Same with the others you have mentioned. I would mention more of but as 12:18am I don't feel like it. I'll come back and edited this later to go on how other character human characters like Sonya, Cage. Yeah like you said there is nothing wrong with human characters. The ones I have stated above have no style ( < IMO) they are just so plain in terms of how they look and there story.

I agree with some of your ideas... just not the ones you held on Li Mei. Maybe its becuase she seems like a Mileena rip off? (I don't know).

I respect your opinion. I was just stating mine.

Peace.

I don't think Li Mei is a Mileena rip off. Again she has that plain old human look. I mean she looks like any old human you would come across the street. As I stated above I liked her MK: DA normal outfit and her two fighting styles.Again IMO her style ( her character in general ) doesn't have much going for me. The story of a villager turned lover of Dragon King isn't all the interesting to me. She needs some character elements IMO.

I've always been more drawn to the human characters of MK. I've never been into the four armed, animal-like, mutant-like (except Baraka) etc. To me it seemed like the MK team took a cool idea and made a fighting game that was similar to Enter the Dragon. Sure they added ideas from other movies (Rayden from Big Trouble in Little China etc) but the core idea of holding a mysterious tournament in an Asian setting seemed really cool to me. It allowed for an intriguing plot (a first for fighting games and arguable a last if you look at Tekken, Virtua Fighter etc) where characters weren't entirely what they seemed. I could handle the sourcery stuff, as it seemed to add even more of a mystical element to the game.

Then they went and made more and more creatures. Moloch, Drahmin, Nitara, the Robo-Ninjas, Kintaro, Motaro, Baraka, Sheeva, Havik et al and while I obviously still like MK (I wouldn't be here otherwise), I think the series lost a special element that the first game (and the second to a lesser extent) had. I loved the backgrounds in MK:DA, and some of the backgrounds in MK:D, but I wish they'd stop with all of the races and monsters and other worlds. This is just my opinion, but it makes the game seem less like Enter the Dragon and more like Star Trek, where you have all of these people in silly costumes that you're supposed to take seriously (sorry to any Trekkies on the board).

I can take some things, like I said, the sorcery, the mysticism, maybe even a few realistic and believable characters that don't appear to be human. But I'd rather have MK return to the MK1 days without Goro. A sweet plot filled with intrigue, double-crosses, alliances, betrayals, new bonds, good and evil and all of that stuff with a mystical Asian flavor. But, again, that's just me.

Oh, I could also do without:

Nightwolf: Can game makers create a native american character without looking like they're mocking native american heritage?

Sindel: Sorry, but she seemed to be worthless to me in MK:D, silly moves, no flying, and almost completely unchanged from MK3.

I'd give another chance to:

Fujin: The Wind God should be the next protector of Earthrealm, and I'd love to seem him with some cool wind powers in a battle against an increasingly evil (if they take him in that direction) Rayden.

Tanya: I love playing as her in MK:D, but the bland update of her costumes coupled with yet another "I'm a bad guy who betrays people" plotline made me dislike her even more than I used to. I say she's got two strikes against her now. However, I do believe that with the right plot, she could be useful to the series. Oh, and if she is brought back, give her the boomerang as a weapon!

I really really hope that Bo' Rai Cho does not return to this game. It is cool I guess that he is an instructor to Kung Lao and Liu Kang. That aspect of the story adds something to the game., but I cannot stand the fart jokes associated with his character. I just don't think that he is a character that belongs in the MK Universe. If he returns as "de-slobbed" and less gassy I think he has the potential to be a strong character, but if he stays put I don't think he'll see much time on my screen
ALSO, I really hope that Hsu Hao doesn't return either. I hated that character so much I didn't even enjoy killing him. I just wanted to get rid of him as fast as possible so I didn't have to look at him