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06/18/2006 06:52 PM (UTC)
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Not that big a fan of baraka meself. would be if he had a better storyline. this is what i think should happen ... melinee goes nuts, thoughts of baraka haunts her. she goes ona a short quest to find him, killing half his army. She is surprised that baraka hasnt shown up now that his army is halved. she later somehow discovered that he is part of the brotherhood of shadow wowwow. (side note: noobsaibot left the brotherhood, joined smoke and wants nothing to do with the brotherhood ..Note: this is not a fact im just making stuff look more interesting might talk about noob and smoke later on). Baraka shows up with the brotherhood explains that he was a mad tarkatan... he also explains that tarkatans are generally hot headed and didnt realise that he was mad. killing cured his madness, made him feel better (cliche? yeah maybe a bit winkwink ) he is now considered the cleverest being alive thus the leader of the shadow. now that he is one of the smartest his fighting ability is enhanced he kills mileena and kills who ever is rulling outworld and the netherealm and turns both outworld and netherealm into shadow territory.
There now thats way cooler than his old story.
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06/18/2006 07:21 PM (UTC)
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First of all, I think Baraka the character I played second after Sub-Zero, the icy ninja was a clear cut, it took a 7 year-old about 0.2 seconds to pick him tongue. I liked his berserker like style from the beginning, he was almost certainly my first flawless winner. Baraka is a blood crazed frenzied mutant: a lethal combination, this always kept his story on the edge. He was always loyal to his master but as his MK2 and MKG endings suggested his unpredictability surpasses even his loyalty.

Baraka, Ermac and Kenshi are the three characters which I would definitely like to see in the next generation, they all have a great symbolism for me. Baraka’s story was never given that much importance from my point of view. In my opinion his character hasn’t been “spent” yet. He has plenty of ways of escaping the Armageddon and knowing Baraka he is likely to pick nothing predictablegrin.

His destiny is most likely to lead him in a colision path with:

1.Shao Khan, his greatest master he grew as a character under Shao Khan’s rule. He is pretty unlikely to rejoin with the Emperor storywise due mainly to the fact that I expect Shao Khan to die in the Armageddon. But you never know when his loyalty might resurface. A violent confrontation is a messy solution it’s not my liking.

2.Mileena, she was always speculated to be his lover. I consider a romantic ending between the two would truly ruin both characters. Mileena is content with her current deception and the only person aware of this misguiding is Baraka a confrontation is probable especially if we are to take into consideration both their MKD endings that openly suggested a turn on another.

3.Bo’ Rai Cho is another possible foe but the speculation is pretty clear cut over here, Baraka should be able to deal with the General quite easily. However this is the story path that offers the least satisfaction to a fan, something more intricate must await Baraka.

4.His other masters are also a possible follow up, however I don’t believe any of them could ever compare with Khan from Baraka’s loyalist point of view.

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06/18/2006 08:29 PM (UTC)
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I've always liked Baraka, but his story didn't really catch my attention until MKD, Baraka's bio quotes him calling his previous master's "weak", and if Onaga is defeated maybe Baraka will finally take some control. Also, the endings of Mileena, Sub-Zero, and Bo' Rai Cho all suggest that Baraka's tarkatans are annihilated. Perhaps this will spark some independence in this poor henchman.
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06/19/2006 01:41 AM (UTC)
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Baraka, the first playable character that was actually different from the rest of the cast. His demonic and monsterous look caught my eye first on the MK2 select screen. Ever since then, he's been one of my best-played characters with his beserker-like style. Of course, he's always been the typical henchman gameplay-wise.

Baraka was last seen in a desperate attempt to accomplish anything at the end of MK:D. His men have been cut down left and right by Kahn's and "Kitana's" forces. What was left of them was sent to finish Sub-Zero it seems, and most likely they didn't fare well either. Well, Baraka has been a fairly stupid henchman for most of his career, he did make one good choice by wanting to rid of Mileena.

This once odd couple has seemingly ended all ties with each other at the end of Deception. A brilliantly clever move using a decoy, unfortunately it still didn't work (keep trying Baraka, I know you can do it!) Now that Mileena knows he is on to her, she's gonna have to be extra careful from now on. Her secret might...accidentally slip somehow. A clash is definitely expected between them. But Baraka won't be the victor. Not only do I think that Mileena has potentially more fighting skills, she alao has much more story potential too. At least he'll be able to disrupt Mileena's army before his final moments...

Speaking of the Edenian army, Bo' Rai Cho poses a big threat to Baraka, as his tactical skills have nearly wiped his army out. I'm sure Onaga isn't the least bit pleased about this and wants him taken out. Baraka would likely be more than happy to oblige. I don't think anything to climatic will happen between them though. Or maybe it could. If Baraka took out Bo' Rai, Li Mei could have a little more story involvement in the revenge of his death. But I'd really like to see her connected with Onaga more.

And what of him and Kung Lao? Was that thing about him being sliced in half by his hat ever true? I thought it was retconned because there were no signs of that in MKD to my knowledge. Again, it would be interesting, but something that is unlikely to happen. But ya never know, as they were seen fighting together in the MKA trailer, but I for one am not taking all of that seriously.

Last, but not least, what are his feelings on the return of his former master Kahn? I don't think he'd be to pleased as Baraka has been boss hopping a lot lately. After all, Baraka has always dreamed of taking the Outworld thrown, but if he did now, he'd have to find a new queen as Mileena out of the question. Again, this event is highly improbable.

If the above event were to happen though, and even if it weren't too, I want to see some involvement between Baraka and Tanya. I think it would be cool if they joined up, and Tanya convinced Baraka to take out Onaga and gain ultimate control and take Outworld with her as his queen. Then Tanya would betray him after he'd gotten it for her, and she'd be the new boss a Tgrant so wonderfully proposed a while ago. Even if it doesn't happen, I still want some interaction between them.

That about sums Baraka up. He has had a good run and is an awesome fighter. The lacky job has gotten old though and somebody could just replace him in the future, maybe even another Tarkata. So I feel this is the end for him.

Yeah, sorry for the late update. I was so set on graduating that I had to let this slip my mind... heh...

Anyway, for Baraka. His story has never really interested me, but I imagine he'll die, and I think it'll be by Mileena's hand.
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Hikari715
06/19/2006 08:47 PM (UTC)
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Baraka was an ok character with ok moves and a somewhat dull storyline. IMO, I think he will die... in Mileena's hands.grin
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06/19/2006 10:41 PM (UTC)
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hey didn't baraka kill mileena in mk deception after she killed the one baraka sent.smile
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06/19/2006 11:50 PM (UTC)
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dark_raiden_rules Wrote:
hey didn't baraka kill mileena in mk deception after she killed the one baraka sent.smile

Baraka's MKD ending never came true.
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Sub-Zero_7th
06/20/2006 12:09 AM (UTC)
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I'm not really into Baraka's story much at all. That's not to say that he hasn't done anything significant. I just find his story to be rather boring, and I see him as being relatively 1-dimensional. I don't see much going for him. I mean, he could try to take his own power, but with various forces stronger than him, I don't think it'd benefit him. He would have to wait until he can be sure he can take power.

I'm sure we'll probably see some interaction with him and Mileena as well as Shao Kahn and maybe Goro and Bo' Rai Cho.
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06/20/2006 04:04 AM (UTC)
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Baraka should die. His story is pitiful IMO, it's a dead-end route and I mean that literally. He's gone, and it will be at the hands of Mileena. I mean, look at the way his story has gone:

MK2: Nomadic tribe, fights for Shao Kahn (had they made him neutral I thought it would have been much better)
MKT: Same as MK2.
MKG: More "evil" and his tribe is more defined as being savages and psychos.
MKD: Tarkatan armies operate in the name of Onaga, while Baraka plays bitch... again.

It's these reasons why you can't put Baraka and Reptile in the same game. They both have the same storylines. However, Reptile's can be saved because of his interaction with a lot of other characters. Baraka just doesn't have enough going for him to have a story change or a reason to survive into MK8.
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06/20/2006 11:44 AM (UTC)
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the way i see it baraka just knows who to get on the goodside of those whom could protect him at the time

i think he will survive, the guy dident even die from kung laos fatality
in my opinion ,with those blades of his he would be one of the best characters to try and take out a bigger character like motaro or kintaro

so i think he should come to conflicked with one of the big guys
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06/23/2006 02:41 AM (UTC)
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Ah, Baraka. Never really liked him in the 90's. Even though I did my first fatality with him. During Deception they hyped him up, and when I played as him in MKD, I was deeply disapointed. So I tried him in MKT. One of the best characters ever. He was just perfect. He should be better in MKA because this is gonna be the last game he's in, and I don't want a crap character.

His story is pretty boring in the begining. I liked how he starts fighting with Mileena in MKD. Can't wait to see what happens to him.

I think Baraka should get killed by Mileena.
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06/24/2006 01:11 AM (UTC)
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Baraka is crazy. I don't like playing as him, and I hate playing against him. No doubt that'll carry over to MKA.
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06/24/2006 11:35 AM (UTC)
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I think Baraka is a pretty cool character. He has always had some good moves and combos. Anywayz, in my story, Baraka focuses mainly on Bo Rai Cho's army. I am assuming that Mileena will be focusing on Kitana in her storyline. So his story goes...

Bo Rai Cho, Li Mei and the rest of Bo's army are battling the Tarkatan hordes. Bo Rai Cho's experience and intelligence allow him to easily defeat the brute strength of the Tarkata. Baraka sees Bo' attacking and defeating them so easily. Angered, Baraka jumps at Bo'. They engage in battle. Li Mei looks very uneasy, but can't intervene because she is fighting other Tarkata. At first, Baraka is dominating the fight. He grabs Bo' by the throat and throws him to the ground. Baraka bagins to walk towards Bo'. He releases his blades. His blades come hurling down to the ground, right next to Bo's neck. Bo' takes the opportunity to grab Baraka's legs, and hurls him to the ground. Bo' is looking down on the floor at Baraka when he suddenly stops breathing. Li Mei is behind him. She releases her weapon Kun Lun Dao from Bo's back. Bo' turns around and sees his trusted pupil. The one he treated like a daughter for so many years. He falls to the floor, saying 'If you have chosen the path of evil, I commend you on your efforts. You have suceeded, my daughter.' He then dies.
Li Mei looks at Bo, angered at him. Why does he have the right to tell her what to do, to call her his daughter. Clearly she has chosen her own path. Her own destiny.
Following the defeat of Bo's army by Baraka's, Li Mei and Baraka are kneeling before Onaga. Onaga praises Li Mei endlessly. He praises her treachory and her darkness, saying he didn't know that she had it in her. He says that he always thought Li Mei to be a weak, pathetic mortal, but now he sees her true strength and deceptiveness. This causes not only Baraka to get jealous, but Li Mei to question her turning to evil.
When Li Mei and Baraka leave the Dragon King's throneroom, Baraka pins Li Mei against a wall. He tells her to leave or else he will have her head. When Li Mei declines this offer, Baraka steps back and releases his blades. He tells her to leave once more. Li Mei starts to think. She remembers Bo Rai Cho's last words, calling her daughter. She remembers how she had always looked up to him, and how he saved her from being a member of the Dragon King's army. Now, she had willingly become one.
She begins turns her back and walks away. At this, Baraka withdraws his blades. Suddenly, Li Mei jumps at Baraka, tackling him to the ground. She continuously kicks him, yelling 'this is for Master Cho'. Baraka starts to cough up blood. Tears start to come to Li Mei's eyes as she continues to take her anger out on Baraka, who is laying helpless on the floor. Baraka eventually dies.
Li Mei calms down. She begins to finally realize what she has done. Tears come to her eyes as she thinks about how she has murdered not only Baraka, but also the closest thing to a father she ever had...
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06/25/2006 01:30 AM (UTC)
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matthewhaddad Wrote:
I think Baraka is a pretty cool character. He has always had some good moves and combos. Anywayz, in my story, Baraka focuses mainly on Bo Rai Cho's army. I am assuming that Mileena will be focusing on Kitana in her storyline. So his story goes...

Bo Rai Cho, Li Mei and the rest of Bo's army are battling the Tarkatan hordes. Bo Rai Cho's experience and intelligence allow him to easily defeat the brute strength of the Tarkata. Baraka sees Bo' attacking and defeating them so easily. Angered, Baraka jumps at Bo'. They engage in battle. Li Mei looks very uneasy, but can't intervene because she is fighting other Tarkata. At first, Baraka is dominating the fight. He grabs Bo' by the throat and throws him to the ground. Baraka bagins to walk towards Bo'. He releases his blades. His blades come hurling down to the ground, right next to Bo's neck. Bo' takes the opportunity to grab Baraka's legs, and hurls him to the ground. Bo' is looking down on the floor at Baraka when he suddenly stops breathing. Li Mei is behind him. She releases her weapon Kun Lun Dao from Bo's back. Bo' turns around and sees his trusted pupil. The one he treated like a daughter for so many years. He falls to the floor, saying 'If you have chosen the path of evil, I commend you on your efforts. You have suceeded, my daughter.' He then dies.
Li Mei looks at Bo, angered at him. Why does he have the right to tell her what to do, to call her his daughter. Clearly she has chosen her own path. Her own destiny.
Following the defeat of Bo's army by Baraka's, Li Mei and Baraka are kneeling before Onaga. Onaga praises Li Mei endlessly. He praises her treachory and her darkness, saying he didn't know that she had it in her. He says that he always thought Li Mei to be a weak, pathetic mortal, but now he sees her true strength and deceptiveness. This causes not only Baraka to get jealous, but Li Mei to question her turning to evil.
When Li Mei and Baraka leave the Dragon King's throneroom, Baraka pins Li Mei against a wall. He tells her to leave or else he will have her head. When Li Mei declines this offer, Baraka steps back and releases his blades. He tells her to leave once more. Li Mei starts to think. She remembers Bo Rai Cho's last words, calling her daughter. She remembers how she had always looked up to him, and how he saved her from being a member of the Dragon King's army. Now, she had willingly become one.
She begins turns her back and walks away. At this, Baraka withdraws his blades. Suddenly, Li Mei jumps at Baraka, tackling him to the ground. She continuously kicks him, yelling 'this is for Master Cho'. Baraka starts to cough up blood. Tears start to come to Li Mei's eyes as she continues to take her anger out on Baraka, who is laying helpless on the floor. Baraka eventually dies.
Li Mei calms down. She begins to finally realize what she has done. Tears come to her eyes as she thinks about how she has murdered not only Baraka, but also the closest thing to a father she ever had...


Tht wuz pretty good^^^......but i dont like the idea of Li Mei killing him[or anybody killing him 4 tht matter]
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06/26/2006 11:16 PM (UTC)
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Baraka's my favorite. IMO, his blades are the best weapon in MK.grin
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06/27/2006 05:35 AM (UTC)
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Baraka, ehhh, I don't like much about him, he looks cool, thats it, I like him better lately, but, he still feels like just a henchman, just a guy you kill to get to the main boss...but maybe he'll bring something better in MK:A, but I doubt he'll make it very far after MK:A, I don't think his ressurection into the MK series went over very well...
Now then, the next character is the sub-boss of the game Kintaro. But... since he's only been in one game before Armageddon, we'll only be discussing him for three days as he does not have much of a story.

Kintaro

Not much is known about Kintaro or his background. After Goro's apparent death, Goro's father King Gorbak offered Shao Kahn Kintaro's services. According to the MK2 comic, when Shang Tsung led Shao Kahn's warriors to Earth to propose his challenge, Kintaro fought with Jax, but it was interrupted and never truly concluded as Liu Kang and Kung Lao had come to back their allies. (Some say that Kintaro wanted revenge on Liu Kang for defeating Goro, while this would make sense, it was never officially stated.)

It is not known what truly happened to Kintaro, nobody knows if he is alive or dead. Some reports say that he was killed by Raiden, while in MK:SM, he is shown getting ripped apart by Liu Kang/Kung Lao (depending on who the player is), while MK:D's Konquest states that Kintaro is leading Shao Kahn's forces in their attempt to recapture Edenia. It should be noted that MK:SM and most of MK:D's Konquest are considered to be non-canon, so those should not be taken seriously, while the bio that stated Kintaro was killed by Raiden was not written by Midway. Armageddon will no doubt reveal just what Kintaro's been up to since MK2.

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I'm neutral on Kintaro, and he doesn't have much of a story, which is admittingly because he's been in one game before Armageddon. (Unless you count his appearance in MKT, but storywise it is non-canon) It would be really cool to see Goro and Kintaro to go at it in that big LOTR-esque battle for the intro movie though. grin

In fact if Shao Kahn and Onaga go to war with each other over Outworld's throne, it'd be cool if Kintaro was on Onaga's side while Goro was on Shao Kahn's side. I doubt Kintaro will survive Armageddon however and I don't know who should kill him if it comes to that. Anyway, you only have three days to discuss Kintaro and then we will be moving on to either Jade or Smoke. (They are after Kintaro because they are secret bosses)
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06/28/2006 11:25 PM (UTC)
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I never liked Kintaro much. He didn't have much of a story. IMO, he is going to die.
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06/29/2006 01:58 AM (UTC)
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Kintaro... Kintaro...

IMO the jury is out on him. In my opinion, it would be extremely unfair for Kintaro to be killed off in MKA , given his one significant appearance in MK2 (he appeared in the PSX version of MKT, anyone besides me remember?).

He was my favorite sub-boss in this series and I think he should live on, and he should be given some kind of storyline here (perhaps a final fight with Goro for control over the Shokan armies?)

He should still fight on the evil side, but I feel he should ambush and kill Goro (I just thought of that now, on the spot), take over the Shokan armies, and possibly become a boss in the MK series down the road.
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06/29/2006 02:31 AM (UTC)
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There really isn't that much to say about him for obvious reasons. I hope that we get a good long explanation as to what happened to him during and after MK2. I agree with PNF that it'd be interesting to see Kintaro side with Onaga and for there to be a Goro vs. Kintaro battle. Perhaps Goro should be the one to kill Kintaro in that battle while Kung Lao kills Goro later on.
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06/29/2006 02:53 AM (UTC)
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It ́s hard to talk about Kintaro. He hasn't a storyline.

First, we have no idea where he is since MK II. I have a guess that he was hidden all that time, like Goro. Now, in MK:A, he will help Shao Kahn in whatever he'll want to do.

Kintaro seems to be the only shokan who not betrayed Shao Kahn. Since the emperor will probably be involved with Edenia, maybe Kintaro will be there too. Also, it seems that he has some respect for Goro, which reforces this idea once Goro and Shao Kahn are allies again.

His future is unpredictable too. If he dies, he won't do any difference in MK's story. The only chance he has to survive is if he makes an enemy during his way in MK:A. This enemy could be any character that also has no much storyline like Kai or Nightwolf.

That's what I think about Kintaro. I also think that Goro's storyline in MK:D would fit better in Kintaro.
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06/29/2006 03:15 AM (UTC)
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Since it's most likely that Goro will die at the end of Armageddon, Kintaro should ultimately survive and be the last Shokan. He can either be in future MK's as a playable character, or be there in the storyline while he is trying to rebuild his race.

However, I would like Kintaro to be good or neutral in this one.
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06/29/2006 04:28 AM (UTC)
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ReCeFaJo Wrote:
It ́s hard to talk about Kintaro. He hasn't a storyline.

First, we have no idea where he is since MK II. I have a guess that he was hidden all that time, like Goro. Now, in MK:A, he will help Shao Kahn in whatever he'll want to do.

Kintaro seems to be the only shokan who not betrayed Shao Kahn. Since the emperor will probably be involved with Edenia, maybe Kintaro will be there too. Also, it seems that he has some respect for Goro, which reforces this idea once Goro and Shao Kahn are allies again.

His future is unpredictable too. If he dies, he won't do any difference in MK's story. The only chance he has to survive is if he makes an enemy during his way in MK:A. This enemy could be any character that also has no much storyline like Kai or Nightwolf.

That's what I think about Kintaro. I also think that Goro's storyline in MK:D would fit better in Kintaro.


I'm going to hold off on giving my reasons until we discuss him, but I strongly disagree with your saying that Nightwolf has no storyline. It certainly isn't a major piece in MK, but it has some substance to it IMO.
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06/29/2006 07:00 AM (UTC)
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Kintaro is my favourite sub-boss, see there is more than one of us. I prefer him over goro due to his animalic nature, I have some shamanic influences so that explains a lot, and he also seemed more agile and now that he is less buff in MKA he is following his tiger traits more which I think is great.

Kintaro is a bit of mystery so far and I believe he should have his shot in the MK series. Because very little is known about him the MK Team has a great opportunity here, they can move his story and character in whatever way. I think that the whole last shokan idea isn’t a very original or suitable, because we already have a last survivors of a specie (Reptile and Khameleon) and Kintaro doesn’t even seem as shokan as the rest.

My idea is this, it isn’t the most original idea but it works, Kintaro belonged to an animal like specie, lets call them the Shar N’ak, (zoomorphic humanoids with tiger, lion, panther, wolf, cougar, jaguar and so forth traits and appearance) that thrived in Edenia. He was the leader of the warrior caste of his society, when Shao Khan discovered him he decided to recruit him in his army, however Kintaro clearly refused saying that he cannot abolish his shamanic beliefs and aid Shao Khan in unbalancing the worlds. Shao Khan was furious of Kintaro’s refusal and ordered Shang Tsung to transmute him into a shokan, Shang Tsung managed to reshape Kintaro and remove his memories however his animalic nature could not be subdued and his tiger appearance is still visible. He served under King Gorbak and because he proved such a mighty warrior he was sent to take Goro’s place in the MK tournament.

After his defeat in MK2 Kintaro fled Shao Khan’s fury and managed to escape to Edenia. Here he wondered the plains until he found a small group of Shar N’ak that were running away from a Tarkatan brigade. When they saw Kintaro they were shocked he seemed like them but he was mightier, more massive and had four arms, this abomination was unbelievable to them. One of the Shar N’ak recognized Kintaro’s markings and told the rest and Kintaro himself the once proud caste leader’s story. Kintaro’s memories came back due to this intercourse in his past and requested that he be taken back to the Shar N’ak encampment.

When the elders of the tribe saw him they felt contradictory sensations they rejoiced because their greatest of warriors had returned but his new shape brought great sorrow in their hearts. Kintaro swore that he would lead the warrior caste yet again to fight off all that would endanger his people’s way of life and that we would get his revenge for his transmutation. The elders told him that on the highest peaks of the Edenian mountains there was rumoured to have been an ancient shrine of their great nature god and he might be able to undo his shape. Kintaro seemed to have no other choice so he travelled up the highest peak and found the secluded shrine. The nature god told him that he would give him his shape back if the agreed to eliminate a greater evil that was threatening the balance Shang Tsung the very sorcerer that had transmuted him was a continuous threat towards nature’s balance. Kintaro gladly accepted knowing this was also his way towards revenge. His training with the Shar N’ak for the upcoming MK tournament has reduced some of his shokan traits and massive size and has given him back some of his feline agility. He is now ready to avenge his faith and rid Edenia of the foul sorcerer.

And i hope he does survive the Armageddon.

Hope you liked it.
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