Shokan & Centaur Thread
0
posted06/04/2006 06:40 AM (UTC)by
Avatar
KillJoy
Avatar
About Me
Member Since
02/09/2006 01:20 AM (UTC)
Well, I can't help but contribute to the recent series of "favorites" threads.
Figured I'd down three birds with one stone.
So how do you guys like Goro,Kintaro and Sheeva, how they've been developed, and where you see them going.
Would you like to see some of these die off, and new ones emerge? Would you like to see hybrids of these hybrids?(although I highly suspect Kintaro is)
What specials would you like them to have in MK:A? What weapons? Who do you think should be the strongest, or most agile?
Do you think Sheeva should hook up with Goro or Kintaro? Should there be a more dragonesque Shokan, maybe one with dragon wings?
Really, whats the fuck is up with Kintaro being partly tiger, I know the origin story that he was suppose to be based on some Japanese man-tiger, but they really need to explain what the hell he is about as far as the MK universe is concerned, that better be wrapped up in MK:A.
Avatar
VENOMOUS75
03/30/2006 06:27 AM (UTC)
0
I think Sheeva should be the quickest, Goro Strong and fast, and Kintaro should be stronger and just slightly faster than Goro.
I think Kintaro's stripes can be explained like this: Reptiles of different species have spots (Goro, Sheeva) some others might have stripes (Kintaro).
Another example is the dinosaurs from that old game, Primal Rage. Remember Diablo and Sauron? they both had stripes. I don't think Kintaro is related to a tiger (Unless Boon and Company just really mess around with his past...) Actually, I think MKII said he came from Goro's race of half human-dragons.
Avatar
KillJoy
Avatar
About Me
03/30/2006 06:34 AM (UTC)
0
Yah, he's definately Shokan that I don't doubt, but his new concept is even more feline then before, I love the look, the flesh tearing claws and all, but I'd enjoy it if it were a bit more explained rather then avoided like it has been.
Just like humans have variations so do Shokans, so maybe there's some history to learn about Kintaro's group.
I agree that Sheeva should be the quickest, and also the weakest. And since MK2 stated Kintaro was stronger and more agile then Goro, I don't see why that would change.
Avatar
Sparta*
03/30/2006 06:59 AM (UTC)
0
Kintaro's daddy was a Shokan who had a fetish for Tiger's.....
Avatar
KillJoy
Avatar
About Me
03/30/2006 07:16 AM (UTC)
0
grin
If Midway went that route, I'd throw dog shit at Boon.
Avatar
m0s3pH
Avatar
About Me

Mortal Kombat Online - Community Manager

| Twitch | YouTube | Lawful Chaos |

Signature and avatar by ThePredator151

03/30/2006 08:51 AM (UTC)
0
KillJoy Wrote:
grin
If Midway went that route, I'd throw dog shit at Boon.

Most of us already want to for MKD and MKDA...
On topic, I like the way they're taking Kintaro. None of the Shokans are among my favorites, maybe this game will change that...
Avatar
Mortanius
03/30/2006 10:15 AM (UTC)
0
First off I would like to say that the Shokans rock! That said, now I can go on with what I wanted to say.
1. I agree with the whole Sheeva fast, Goro strongest and Kintaro the balanced one idea.
2. I don't think that any one of them will be back. Their stories have pretty much been bled dry and theres no room for growth.
3. I hope to Raiden that they put another Shokan in MK8. We need more variety in the character roster.
Avatar
tgrant
Avatar
About Me
Project MKK: Coming soon...

Currently working on: MKD & MKA - The One Ring Theory
03/30/2006 11:58 AM (UTC)
0
I 'm not a fan of the Shokan. I hate Goro and Sheeva. Though Sheeva was fun to play as. I like Kintaro though, but he's not a fave. He's just a cool boss and was awesome to use on MKT.
Imo, the most powerful of them is Kintaro. Goro should me the middle Shokan, the blanced one. Sheeva should excel in speed, though I don't think she's weak. she killed Motaro afterall. All should have their own variations of the Tele-Stomp.
New Shokans should be introduced. It'd be nice to actually see a male the size of Sheeva and a female the size of Gor and Kintaro for once.
In my own story for MKA, Sheeva would not be with the other Shokan and Goro. I'm not sure what Kintaro could do storywise as he's been gone for so long, but I hope his absence gets cleared up.
Sheeva's return after death should be explained well and i hope they don't go he usual resurrection route as that'll suck.
A Shokan with wings doesn't work for me. But I like the idea. Four arms is enough, imo. As for Kintaro being tiger like, he looks amazing! It's nice to see some differentiation within the species even if we've only seen 3 of them. Kintaro is easily the nost unique of the 3.
Avatar
Ghoulie
Avatar
About Me

Some people prefer the finer things in life. I'm alright just hangin' out with the ghost of Vincent Price.

03/30/2006 04:15 PM (UTC)
0
KillJoy Wrote:
grin
If Midway went that route, I'd throw dog shit at Boon.

HAHAHAHA!
Seriously though, I'm stoked about Kintaro, if he's selectable he might be the first player I choose because I really want to see what he's capable of. As far as the look, it's absolutely amazing if you allow some liberties to the story. Even though the Shokan we've seen look almost identical so far it still doesn't discount Kintaro. Perhaps Shokan are analagous to dog breeds, they have different physical characteristics, but are still the same species.
Avatar
nobrainer
03/30/2006 04:53 PM (UTC)
0
KillJoy Wrote:
Really, whats the fuck is up with Kintaro being partly tiger, I know the origin story that he was suppose to be based on some Japanese man-tiger, but they really need to explain what the hell he is about as far as the MK universe is concerned, that better be wrapped up in MK:A.

He's just a Shokan. Originally, they were going to have a were-tiger character in Mk2, but it was scrapped and replaced with a tiger striped Shokan. There are different species/races of Shokan I think, and the fact that he has tiger-like stripes does not mean that his daddy fucked a tiger; to be blunt.
Avatar
Drifting_Ravage
03/30/2006 06:21 PM (UTC)
0
Goro
He is one of my favorites, and is like the everlasting symbol of Mortal Kombat.
Storyline wise:
I’m hoping he is evil, he should’ve never joined with Kitana. I liked the deception story of him and Shao Kahn against almost everyone else. I’d like to see him do something big, like take out a few of the “heroes” or Motaro. I’d also like if he did something with Sheeva, like her being revealed as one of his 7 or so wifes.
Kintaro
It’d be interesting if he sided with Onaga and became his highest positioned general. It would further push Kahn’s hatred for Onaga if one of his former best warriors sided with his greatest foe.
Sheeva
Interesting voice, nice combos and cool green blood. Like said above, I’d like her to be involved with Goro.
Avatar
KillJoy
Avatar
About Me
03/30/2006 08:54 PM (UTC)
0
I was playing mkt, and I am so eager to play the shokan's like they were meant to be played. The game might be a classic, but the characters were very limited in terms of moves.
I like the Kintaro Onaga alliance, but aren't shokans too loyal to their own species to betray them? Or are they as self-serving as everyone else.
I think we for MK8 we will have a relatively small cast, and maybe we will have a superior Shokan to what we have seen so far, bigger, badder, and with an imposing evil looking armor. How would you guys react to that, would it be too repetitive, or would it be good for the "rebirth" of MK to have elements like that to would remind us of the original, without being a total ripoff.
Avatar
shemarx
03/30/2006 09:56 PM (UTC)
0
Goro - Unlike most people, I liked how he allied himself with Kitana and shook hands with Kung Lao in MKG. Goro defeated an old stereotype by doing that, which is that all monsters have to be big, angry, brutal, barbaric bad guys. Goro showed some intellect, originality, and diplomacy in that instance. In my opinion, his partnership with Shao Khan shouldn't last. I hope he turns on him in the end. Maybe if Kitana is injured or he's forced to attack her, he'll remember how Shao Khan once betrayed his people while Kitana helped him in a time of need, then Goro will die an honorable, heroic death defending Kitana from Shao Khan.
Kintaro - Kintaro should be put in charge of leading Goro and Shao Khan's militia against the Dragon King. With the Shokan now Shao Khan's favored "pets", Motaro would have probably allied himself with Onaga. A rivalry between Motaro and Kintaro would be interesting, especially one focused on who is the better leader on the battlefield.
I don't know what Kintaro's fate should be. I think if he does develop a rivalry with Motaro that he'll eventually slay the Centaur (After all, Motaro did lose to Sheeva, so Kintaro should be able to take him). He may even prove to be a successful General by defeating Onaga's army. If Shao Khan and Goro die and Kintaro were the only one left, he'd be in a good position to take over Outworld for himself. In that case, he could return in MK8 as a major enemy.
If Kintaro does die (I hope not), I think Kai would be the ideal candidate to finish him off. Kai is a Shaolin Monk with tiger stripes and Kintaro is a Shokan with tiger stripes - they're the perfect rivals! If Kai doesn't kill Kintaro, I’d like it if Kai either defeated him in combat or the two somehow developed some type of rivalry (If not in this game, maybe in MK8).
Sheeva - Sheeva should play for both teams, but take a more deceptive, behind-the-scenes approach. Since Shao Khan killed her, obviously she'd hold some bitterness towards him, but I think she'd serve his army only out of her loyalty to Goro. However, I also think she should play some role in trying to see Shao Khan fall without trying to take him on directly. Her helping Sindel and Kitana find Shao Khan's location so that they can take him on would be cool.
Also, Sheeva obviously wouldn't be too fond of Kano either, so it'd be neat if she also had a secret alliance with Sonya and/or Jax too. I'd like to see her take Kano and Jarek (They're the two "dead" members of the Black Dragon, so I figure they'll be together) captive and say she’ll force them to serve Shao Khan. However, instead of taking them to the emperor, she takes them to Sonya and/or Jax to finish off.
In the end, I don't think it matters if she dies. Kintaro could kill her if he finds out she's a traitor; Motaro could get his payback; she could be casualty of war; or maybe she'll survive. But whatever the case, I think her character will be retired whether she dies or not.
Avatar
Ninja_Mime
03/30/2006 10:28 PM (UTC)
0
I really hope they can give Sheeva and Motaro good reasonable stories for their come backs. It would suck if they were just resurrected by Kahn or something.
Avatar
BadChad
03/31/2006 12:23 AM (UTC)
0
Mortanius Wrote:
First off I would like to say that the Shokans rock! That said, now I can go on with what I wanted to say.
1. I agree with the whole Sheeva fast, Goro strongest and Kintaro the balanced one idea.
2. I don't think that any one of them will be back. Their stories have pretty much been bled dry and theres no room for growth.
3. I hope to Raiden that they put another Shokan in MK8. We need more variety in the character roster.
I agree for the most part, except for their stories being ''bled dry with no room for growth''. What stories???? There hasn't been a single Shokan with any degree of story at all. Goro & Kintaro had zilch for story (well Goro had a vague one in MK1 but nothing much since, till mkGold), Sheeva's was vague and very poorly done (lazy writers) at best. They never really had any chance to have much of a story, just being used for a sub-boss was all there was. quite a waste of cool characters imo.
I also liked the way Goro turned good in Mkgold. like someone else said, it broke the stereotype of ugly people being bad (which is really untrue)and showed Goro as being intellegent rather than just a big mean brute that does nothing but kill people. I was disappointed to find out he turned bad again though, hopefully that idea is scrapped since Kitana is alive in mka. Kahn is a dick & needs to be taken out, lol. I love his taunts though.
I'm not sure we really need another Shokan for mk 8. I'd rather just keep the ones we got. Unless they put king Gorbak in for some reason.
Yeah, goro should be the strongest imo. He's the prince, so he should assert his authority & put Kintaro & Sheeva in their place if they get out of line. As for moves, they should retain their original moves. As far as storyline, i hope they come up with something better than just having them die. That's laziness & uncreative to me. Any idiot can come up with crap like that. i would hope professionals would do better.
I love Kintaro's new look, as well as all the others. Can't wait to see Motaro!
If any of the shokans are selectable from the start, I'll be using them first. Having everyone as playable characters is really the only reason I'm looking forward to MKA. Everything else is secondary in terms of importance.
Avatar
Wraith915
Avatar
About Me

"Get goin man, or i'll stomp a mudhole in your ass!"-todd ianuzi

03/31/2006 04:24 PM (UTC)
0
Mortanius Wrote:
First off I would like to say that the Shokans rock! That said, now I can go on with what I wanted to say.
1. I agree with the whole Sheeva fast, Goro strongest and Kintaro the balanced one idea.
2. I don't think that any one of them will be back. Their stories have pretty much been bled dry and theres no room for growth.
3. I hope to Raiden that they put another Shokan in MK8. We need more variety in the character roster.

I agree except for one thing. goro isnt faster or stronger than kintaro. if you read kintaros mkt bio it says that he has replaced goro and that he is fatser and stronger than his predessesor which is reffering to goro.
Avatar
Ermac_rain
03/31/2006 04:37 PM (UTC)
0
I hope that Motaro kills Sheeva, she killed him yeah but not in battle, she hid and when he had his guard out and he was weak she killed him!!.(she is a coward)
Kintaro is one of the best shokans in MK, i would like to see him going to Onagas army also, he is second to Kanh right!!?maybe the dragon king would train Kintaro so as to reach Kahn's level, or maybe be better than Kahn. so Kahn would be angry, and the Dragon King would make his Revenge, for in the past when Shao Kahn cowardly killed him ( He would make Kahn die in a slow, painful death)
Goro, should fight Noob Saibot and eventually goro and noob saibot should both die when Goro Sacrifieses himself and both Noob and Goro would fall in the Netherealms' Lava and eventually die (If it ends this way i hope that he does this to save Kitana, Goro would be the guy that from a big evil shokan, he is now valueing life)
Avatar
KillJoy
Avatar
About Me
03/31/2006 07:48 PM (UTC)
0
Yah, where did anyone get the idea that the Shokan storyline has been bleed dry? Goro was slightly developed, and the other two didn't have much of anything done with them. Some might argue three Shokans is already too much, but then again, how many humans do we have? See what I'm saying? Of course I wouldn't want a dozen of them, but I definately want their, or other Shokans continued involvement in the MK storyline, even Centaurs and Raptors for that matter, so long as the storylines are treated with respect and done right.
It would be cool to see Motaro kill Sheeva, as her act was a cowardly one, but are we sure that her ending was really canon? I rather it not be so we don't have to deal with another resurection, I think it was just to give us an idea of her coward personality.
Avatar
Shao_Kahn88
03/31/2006 08:02 PM (UTC)
0
Shokans:
Shokans are a very proud race. Their main enemy are the Centarian race. Id like to know more about how long ago it started and why it started. They never say anything about this war. Perhaps a new war between Shokans and Tarkatans should develop. Goro's ending could prove to be the beginning of a new war between Tarkatan and Shokan. I am most interested in finding out the story's of Motaro, Kintaro, and Baraka in this final war. I wonder what role these characters will play.
Avatar
shemarx
03/31/2006 08:16 PM (UTC)
0
If I recall recorrectly, we were never told how Sheeva killed Motaro (Were we?), so I don't know why we assume it was somehow a cowardly act. One could assume that since she was willing to sneak up on Shao Khan that she'd do the same to Motaro, but also consider that Shao Khan is much stronger than Motaro so Sheeva would have less reason to ambush him.
Plus, some other things to consider would be that Sheeva her Teleport Stomp makes her one of the easiest characters to use against Motaro (Even though she sucks in every other fight), which might be a hint of something, and her ending uses the word "defeat", not killed, so at the it would seem like she just defeated him in battle (until it was later revealed he was killed).
Avatar
TheSoulOfErmac
03/31/2006 08:19 PM (UTC)
0
As far as Kintaro's look goes he looks pimpin, and I agree with the whole dog breed thing. Same species yet different breeds. Kinda like a white and asian person. I think it would awesome to introduce another Centaurian of a different breed like a bull or something.
MK8 should either have a Shokan of a breed different from Goro and Kintaro or just a whole new sub-boss altogether.
I've been tryin to think though what would be some other cool breeds for a shokan?
Avatar
Frikandel
03/31/2006 08:28 PM (UTC)
0
When playing the first MK and i outlived the third endurance match Goro popped out. The first sight of him scared me a bit, and my adrenaline got pumpin.
But when i fought him, he wasn't to difficult, and ever since that first match I thought Goro was over hyped. I was great and all....but not THAT great. So see him return in MK4 instead of Kintaro (wich looked more fierce) almost broke my heart. All we get is Goro, Goro and more Goro.
I really hope Kintaro is up to par in MKA. I thought Sheeva was a joke the only thing I liked about her was the fact that she had different spots on her back then Goro or Kintaro did. But overal Sheeva looked like a female Goro, in the same way that Frost looks a like a female Sub-Zero.
But I agree with Midway if they make Goro the allrounder of the Shokan. Kintaro will be the strongest and Sheeva the quickest.
Avatar
KillJoy
Avatar
About Me
04/02/2006 11:57 PM (UTC)
0
shemarx Wrote:If I recall recorrectly, we were never told how Sheeva killed Motaro (Were we?), so I don't know why we assume it was somehow a cowardly act. One could assume that since she was willing to sneak up on Shao Khan that she'd do the same to Motaro, but also consider that Shao Khan is much stronger than Motaro so Sheeva would have less reason to ambush him.
Plus, some other things to consider would be that Sheeva her Teleport Stomp makes her one of the easiest characters to use against Motaro (Even though she sucks in every other fight), which might be a hint of something, and her ending uses the word "defeat", not killed, so at the it would seem like she just defeated him in battle (until it was later revealed he was killed).

So was it ever confirmed she actually killed him, or was it just insinuated? I never found for myself, I just thought people wouldn't say that she killed him in a cowardly fashion unless they were sure.
Avatar
mksorcerer
04/03/2006 12:24 AM (UTC)
0
i think sheeva is awesome. i think it would be cool if maybee sindel ressurectted her to help in the times of war. i always liked goro better as good than evil. maybe he could really be a spy for kitana and during MKA he reveals this and sides with the forces of good. kintaro could then take his place as leader if shao kahn's forces in an attempt to step out form goro's shadow win back the favor of the shao kahn for the shokan. this could develop as a rivalry between the two.
Avatar
shemarx
04/03/2006 12:36 AM (UTC)
0
KillJoy Wrote:
So was it ever confirmed she actually killed him, or was it just insinuated? I never found for myself, I just thought people wouldn't say that she killed him in a cowardly fashion unless they were sure.

Deadly Alliance revealed that Motaro was killed by Sheeva, but it didn't say how (It did tell us how Sheeva was killed though).
Pages: 2
Discord
Twitch
Twitter
YouTube
Facebook
Privacy Policy
© 1998-2026 Shadow Knight Media, LLC. All rights reserved. Mortal Kombat, the dragon logo and all character names are trademarks and copyright of Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.