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04/08/2005 05:28 AM (UTC)
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I couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks Joey.
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04/08/2005 05:29 AM (UTC)
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This is indeed ridiculous.To all admins,just post the damn information.It might help MK as a series to advance.This is probably a last chance.

MK has an awful lot of to make up,which some of you aren't even aware of.MK is viewed as a joke by the "competitive commnunities".Boon needs to make a good game.Other competitive gamers will play it accordingly just as Tekken players play VF and vice versa.It may take years even if Boon designs a good game for people to realize that it's indeed good.However,now,MK and its community have a very,very bad reputation.
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04/08/2005 06:05 AM (UTC)
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I know I don't know you and you don't know me so you have no reason to respect anything I'm saying right now but please do this one thing. I'm far from being the kind of person to get involved with other people's personal squabbles or ever actually beg for something but this transcends person to person relations. Please do whatever you can do to spread the word. This has never happened before. MK was never given the opportunity to be in EVO. Maybe you're right and MK doesn't "need" it but what can it hurt? If it really does end up being "Tekken is teh b3st and MK is teh suk" then it was a nice try but at least the chance came up and MK was able to meet that. I don't know everything that's been going on and maybe MKO was wrong when it came down to releasing the news. I can't say either way. But that responsibility lies with MKO's staff not MK. There's no reason to punish MK, the fans, and whatever good may come of this because of that. And this is all coming from one of the most vocal critics of MK on this site. I agree that Deception will take a lot of cannon fodder from most of EVO's crowd but at the very least it will be in plain sight to take that fodder. Some good may come from that. Once again, you have no reason to listen to anything I've said but now is not the time to let rivalries and disrespect put MK, the game everyone here loves, at any greater disadvantage than it's already at.
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04/08/2005 06:09 AM (UTC)
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Tony hit the argument right on the spot, just promote it and give MK a chance at the spotlight. Sure MKD doesn't merit such, but we should give it a go to show that there is a community and maybe, just maybe, we'll have a real competitive fighter that isn't all about glitches, infinites, and 50/50 mixups.
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04/08/2005 06:19 AM (UTC)
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There's no fighting in here. No hatred, no disrespect, no bragging. Just a bunch of MK fans who may have different views on the game's overall quality but at the same time love the series equally. I guarantee if MK doesn't make EVO now it never will again even if it does get better as a series. This is probably a one time thing. Either MK meets the challenge or it misses the bus forever. You don't have to like the MKO staff but be the bigger man and show that there actually is an MK community that cares about the game more than personal rivalries. Scott-Howell is right. If MK is prevented from getting into EVO because members of the community itself won't help it get there then there really isn't any reason to ask Midway for a better product because we as a community have proven that we don't deserve one. Super Smash Bros. Melee, a game that isn't even considered a real fighter (subgenre maybe), was going to be in EVO until Nintendo stopped it from happening. That doesn't make Nintendo look good. They hurt their own product. Don't do that.
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04/08/2005 09:26 AM (UTC)
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"You sites ARE NOT AS POPULAR bottom line."
haha, yeah right....you may think that, But I know that TMK is just as popular if not more popular that MKO.

Regards,



It is not.

I post on your site in the classic section, as EWAShock, and look around elsewhere, it does not have the same level of activity on the forums as MKO, and that is primarily what MKO is. MKO has 4 times the members of TMK. 20501 vs 4925.

At the current time, including myself, TMK has 2 online registered users. MKO, counting myself, has 8. That's X 4 too.

As far as your obvious jealousy goes about the whole statement of the possibility of MKD being at EVO, it is just that. HOW was TMK going to do what MKO can do for promotion of this tournament? Tell me how? Think about it and be honest with yourself for once in your life. You will argue that water isn't wet man. I don't like the fact that the game itself is going to represent competitive MK, but regardless, it is MK and MK deserves the spotlight. Help out.

Matt
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04/08/2005 09:35 AM (UTC)
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This will finally lay rest once and for all if MK should be in a tournament. Everyone knows how broken of a game MKD really is and EVO (yes, fucking EVO) is giving this game a chance and letting the community decide. Are MK fans just garbage who don't play competitively or will they step up to the challenge to travel to the biggest US tournament out there. They're basically giving this game on a silver platter and if the community doesn't step up, there will never be any hope for MK. As a former MK fan, I really hope to see it in the tournament and a big turnout for it.

Remember you're in with stiff competition with Alpha 3, VF4 Evo, etc who have fanboys all over the place and WILL step up to get their games in. No more crying that MK is just as good as the rest of the fighters. No more excuses. THIS IS YOUR CHANCE!

Good luck and hope to see everyone there.
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04/08/2005 12:50 PM (UTC)
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damn, if i wasnt going through my money problems id be there in a second, put up my tough mileena vs every one!!
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04/08/2005 02:34 PM (UTC)
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I'd take you out Dan, I know your tricks with Mil grin

Soon, I'm going to make a frontpage on my site about EVO that everyone has to see before being able to download vids.

TMK, support this or let it go...either way, just stop the fighting.
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04/08/2005 04:25 PM (UTC)
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Mileena? Mil FREAKIN LEENA?!?! Dan, YOU TRAITOR!!!!! TRAIIIITOR!!!!!

Konqrr, REALLY looking forward to that site addition. Let us know when it's done, eh?

As for EVO, am in concurrence with Tony and Tran. This will serve as a wonderful opportunity to put MKD in the limelight, for better or for worse.
I love MKD, I think it is a lot of fun because it plays differently. But I also see how glitchy it is compared to a lot of top notch fighters out there.
This is a win win situation IMO. It will either be taken in with open arms, or be lamented as a game that needs a lot of work. Either way, I think the Midway team is going to stand up and take notice if we keep putting this game in big events like EVO.
As far as the rivalry, I am sorry, get the freak over it and help out MKD. This is a team effort guys...try to see it that way.
Shake hands, kiss and make up, heck even give eachother hickeys for all I care, but do SOMETHING to help get this game THERE. Because love it or hate it, glitchy or not, this is BIG for MK fans EVERYWHERE, and could very well determine the quality of the next MK game. And THAT, my friends, the potential for a killer MK game for the next instalment, is bigger than ANY rivalry or harsh feelings.
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04/08/2005 04:34 PM (UTC)
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Mileena? Mil FREAKIN LEENA?!?! Dan, YOU TRAITOR!!!!! TRAIIIITOR!!!!!

Konqrr, REALLY looking forward to that site addition. Let us know when it's done, eh?


Shake hands, kiss and make up, heck even give eachother hickeys for all I care, .
what was that, see Scott-Howell kiss and give other guys hickeys, ooo where can i watch.. tongue tongue


anyway, sorry for the "gay" moment but i couldnt resist..lol wink



skaven~do u think im dumb, theres no way i will put sindel up vs good players.. Mileena on the other hand can kick ass w/ her cheap 50/50 grin


konqrr~now now, **goes to ur website to check out the tourney vids of me vs konqrr** yep i won those.. tongue tongue tongue muhahahah muhahaha see u sat night man.. smile
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04/08/2005 04:54 PM (UTC)
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MK2KungBroken Wrote:
Total-MK Wrote:
"You sites ARE NOT AS POPULAR bottom line."
haha, yeah right....you may think that, But I know that TMK is just as popular if not more popular that MKO.

Regards,



It is not.

I post on your site in the classic section, as EWAShock, and look around elsewhere, it does not have the same level of activity on the forums as MKO, and that is primarily what MKO is. MKO has 4 times the members of TMK. 20501 vs 4925.

At the current time, including myself, TMK has 2 online registered users. MKO, counting myself, has 8. That's X 4 too.

As far as your obvious jealousy goes about the whole statement of the possibility of MKD being at EVO, it is just that. HOW was TMK going to do what MKO can do for promotion of this tournament? Tell me how? Think about it and be honest with yourself for once in your life. You will argue that water isn't wet man. I don't like the fact that the game itself is going to represent competitive MK, but regardless, it is MK and MK deserves the spotlight. Help out.


Matt


I had to make a quick post earlier, here is the real thing.

MK2KungBroken / EWAShock:
I am aware what name you post under, and the fact that I have less members than MKO means nothing to me, I am talking about content and overall what a site can offer. This site has a very active forum, I don't deny that...but other than news coverage what else is here? Cause almost all TMK's content can NOT be found on this site, eg general things like wallpapper,sounds,pictures ect...

And I'm sorry but you are wrong because I am not jealous of MKO, you may think that but hey, thats your buisness, And I am not even saying that TMK should have only gotten this news like you are implying, I am saying everyone should of got it... and the fact that you tell me to "help out" without even understanding my motives is quite insulting. By having an MK site I am helping out all the fucking time, next time you are at TMK tell me how many ad banners you see on the site and then you tell me where I raise the $500+ dollars it costs me to run my site per year, considering I am jobless and the two ads on the side of my website I DO NOT get money for.

I pay that money cause I support MK more than most people in this community, when people bag MK around me they get scolded, because it's always some lamer saying "MKD sux!" and not even giving an intellagent reason why, and then when you question them it comes down to something like "I don't like online play cause It's unfair" so they hate the whole game because of that...that's bullshit.

Scott:
I never said MK had a shit fighting mechanic or anything like that, in fact I am sticking up for MKD more than anyone else online and I have the logs to prove it. HOWEVER.... I know that future MK games will be more refined and more suitable for a tournament of this calabur, thats my opinion...I think taking MK:D to this tournament is a bad idea, myself. Because there are some bugs, I don't deny that...and when they are worked out in future MK games, then it will be ready for a tournament.

And there is no rivarly between us, I suggest you read the log agian that I posted, cause its in there. You are always the one that claims there is rivarly, and make out that I am the bad guy cause I have strong opinions.

And It's not about who got the PR ect... the fact that you say you want all sites to post the news and you didn't tell us anything about it before hand is annoying. And then you start telling everyone you are "pissed off" at TMK and TRMK because we didn't update when you didn't even ask for my e-mail to provide relevent information.

[MickXII] What's up Scott
[blackcyborg] hmm
[MickXII] How come?
[@Scott-Howell] Because sites like TRMK and TMK won't update about Evolution

If you really wanted a "hands across MK sites" type attitude with this news, you could of contacted the webmasters of others sites and filled us in, but you didn't... you just expect other MK sites to follow suit. And I think that EVO must not be fully serious about this if they only sent this information to MKO and not other MK sites, for maximum exposure that PR should of been sent to everyone.

TPB: I didn't get a message saying "The_Purple_Bunny does not want to recive that type of message" which is normaly what you get when +M is on.

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04/08/2005 05:08 PM (UTC)
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TPB: I didn't get a message saying "The_Purple_Bunny does not want to recive that type of message" which is normaly what you get when +M is on.
Regards,


I found out what the problem was, it should get a PM through now if you still want it.
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04/08/2005 05:59 PM (UTC)
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ahh cool....I just wanted to say hello n stuff.
Regards,


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04/08/2005 06:31 PM (UTC)
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Scott Howell...don't tell your fansite members not to say how they feel about any MK game..Are you kissing Midways ass in this thread..maybe theyre reading here?
You know I love this game..and I can play MK games well..
]{ombat was the only MKO staff member to play me at E3 2004..cause the rest of you knew Id spank you..like I did him....
But MKD is the most broke MK game yet...too many infinites..glitches..and plenty of cheesefest daily online.
Midway has failed to test this game properly..and has pushed another MK game out half assed done.
I would think Midway would pay attention to high level play posts and vids..and recruit ASAP. doubtful

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04/08/2005 09:18 PM (UTC)
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JRF, did you not read my entire post? I don't give two shits what Midway thinks about this tournament. I point blank out said even I see problems with the fighting system. I'm not kissing ass. We're promoting this for the fans. And what's said you of all people JRF, we'd really wish you'd support and go as the tournament itself could use someone like you.

TMK, read your reply. Still nothing new, same old stuff you've been saying, but ok granted you feel how you feel. I respect that. But let's move ON.

But update about Evo already. Hell, don't even mention MKO for all we care. Just at least say it needs 100 damn pre-registrations. Do SOMETHING.
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04/08/2005 09:47 PM (UTC)
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Buwaka nang ina ninyong lahat!!!
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04/08/2005 10:06 PM (UTC)
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If Mortal Kombat can't get 100 people registered, that will be embarassing to all of us MK fans.

If MK sites could prevent this happening just by spreading the word and trying to get people to pre-register, why not do it? What is there to lose?
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04/08/2005 10:12 PM (UTC)
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honestly there is no way to game test thins game 100%,, konqrr and them are still finding new glitches.. u are talking about what 4 guys who game test can find in the span of what, a month or 2, not possible.. the prob is that there are no patches to fix it. which if this was in the arcades there would hav been like 6 revisions already. and if u ban half the crap, 85% of the people wont play, cause they dont no how too..

ex.. darrius 3 df 3 sidestep throw , walk up 50/50
now how can u 50/50 when the 3 u cant block, f1, or pretty much any hit besdies a throw.

brc.. f3 , throw, walk up am i allowed to f3 him??? (its breakable) or i can walk in take the step back puke ( pretty much unavoidable in corner) throw repeat,

is n/s plant sidestep allowed, and his unbreakable combo??
or being (noob) 4 , df2, sidestep throw, ff3, d1, throw,teleport, darkassin, d1,b1 jump in with a deep kick, throw, teleport, ff3

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04/08/2005 10:28 PM (UTC)
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]{0MBAT Wrote:
If Mortal Kombat can't get 100 people registered, that will be embarassing to all of us MK fans.

If MK sites could prevent this happening just by spreading the word and trying to get people to pre-register, why not do it? What is there to lose?


Exactly. 100 people, in the grand scheme of things, is not an unattainable number. So if the community as a whole can't work together to make this one thing happen then those same people who consider themselves fans should never even think the words Mortal Kombat again nevermind talk about how MK can stand with the rest. If MK fails to make EVO then the community proves itself to be the worst enemy MK has, not a rival fighter.
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04/08/2005 11:03 PM (UTC)
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the only thing stoping me from going it u cant match my control setup ,
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04/08/2005 11:35 PM (UTC)
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Total-MK,

I've just made the same offer to TRMK, because they feel like they should be getting "something out of this". Honestly, it shouldn't be about that, but here's what we're offering. Total-MK, if you help promote Evolution we will put a graphical link to your site on our sidebar as an Evolution Contributer. If that's not enough, I'll throw in the Scorpion render I know you want. Are you willing to work something out with us? Obviously, we can't list a graphical link to every MK site in the world who runs with our update and helps out, but we will try to be fair with the main sites that refuse to update on Evolution.

At least consider this offer.
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04/09/2005 01:23 AM (UTC)
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If I had the time and money to go to Evo it certainly wouldn't be to play a game like MKD. Signing up with no intentions of actually going is lame. You're just wasting the time of the hosts. What good will it do if MKD is there but only 15 people actually show up?

And I don't buy for a second that Midway would change their ways if this came to be. It's pretty clear to me Midway doesn't care. The fighting game community has been bashing MK's depth and complaining about broken gameplay mechanics for like a decade now.
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04/09/2005 01:24 AM (UTC)
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Ok, thats pretty cool. But how about getting me the cd that you got that render on, ]{ knows I am after it, hehe. Also you could consider unbanning me from IRC...

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04/09/2005 01:58 AM (UTC)
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come on MKO staffers give T-MK another chance unbanned him from the irc network smilefurious
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