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TheWiseFlea
11/20/2010 04:25 PM (UTC)
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Fuck!!!!!
She's beautiful. For the first time in my life, I'm interested in Sonya!

This costume is perfection to me. Sexy and functional (by MK standards).
And this week gameplay should be shown in Brazil if i'm correct


I couldn't agree more. This look is sexy, fun, balanced, and shows alot of skin. It really turns me on, and that's what Sonya is all about. If all the females keep looking this fine, I'll be very happy. Undershirt? Well it could work, but the cleavage is better. Low rise pants are great, and the whole outfit screams bad-a**.

I agree that she doesn't exactly look special forces, but she looks just as special forces as Jax does (not very). Remember, NRS is demonstrably going for more individual personality in this game, and it's working. This is Sonya's best look tied with MKSM.

Dog tags are a great touch, as they harden her up a bit and draw more attention to her beautiful chest.
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King_Kintaro
11/20/2010 04:28 PM (UTC)
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Haha she looks ok. See, my expectations are never high for the lady characters because its all a matter of who will be wearing less. When all the female's are wearing such little clothing the only thing separating them (IMO) is their hair color and clothes color (kinda like classic MK Ninja Pallet Swap)

Come on, lets put a little more thought into these female characters please.

Any way, she looks alright based on my expectations that weren't very high.
Don't get me wrong, i like sonya and her background, but lets release a picture of a character that took more than 10 minutes to make...
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Milaana
11/20/2010 04:28 PM (UTC)
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I like the sonya in Queves avatar much better (the mk vs Dc version)

This sonya is too reveiling, she should wear much more.. especially with that bitch character of hers, this doesn't suit her at all.

I don't like this all slutty thing with women and NONE with men...

They destroyed sub-zero for me by making him look like in MK2 ending and the only sexy male Johnny Cage is a vainity fair type of men, I'm not interested in those.

They better make Shao Kahn sexy, the only man who is sexy in MK, next to the non mk1,2 and 3 Reiko.

I also HATE the fact that she actually looks like NINA from tekken, that stupid character should look like Sonya more, not the other way around.
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~Crow~
11/20/2010 04:38 PM (UTC)
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Yet another god awful design for a female character. So sick of this. I guess it isn't hard to see why they do this, the community seems to eat it up. I can't fault them if this is what the majority seems to want, and it definitely seems that way.

But hey, why should female characters be respectable looking? They're just there to "turn on" all the young male gamers right? Not to be serious characters, just some nice eye candy. First it's been decided no female character needs a shirt and absolutely must have half their breasts exposed. Maybe by the next game they'll decide they don't need any pants either.
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MKSquad
11/20/2010 04:44 PM (UTC)
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WOW here we go again......
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TheWiseFlea
11/20/2010 04:49 PM (UTC)
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~Crow~ Wrote:
Yet another god awful design for a female character. So sick of this. I guess it isn't hard to see why they do this, the community seems to eat it up. I can't fault them if this is what the majority seems to want, and it definitely seems that way.

But hey, why should female characters be respectable looking? They're just there to "turn on" all the young male gamers right? Not to be serious characters, just some nice eye candy. First it's been decided no female character needs a shirt and absolutely must have half their breasts exposed. Maybe by the next game they'll decide they don't need any pants either.


Well look at Li Mei - she didn't have any pants. Just kidding - I think pants keep it classy enough. I agree the breasts are somewhat formulaic, but I'm 26 (not a "young" gamer anymore) and I love the design. Sonya is hot, and I'm not at all ashamed to admit that.

That being said, just because their female characters lean toward the over-sexualized side doesn't mean that their moves sets, kombos, and playability won't be exceptional. Judging from what we've seen of the other female kharacters, they will be.
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11/20/2010 04:56 PM (UTC)
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I defended Mileena's lack of clothing up and down because, conceivably, an assassin from another world with self-esteem problems might want to flaunt her sex appeal. There isn't really an excuse for Sonya. She's a widow. In the military. I don't get it.

But that's not really the biggest problem with the design. If you saw the model by itself, without any context of the game it came from, would you recognize the character as Sonya? I wouldn't. She could be from a new Resident Evil game for all I know. If the team was set on re-making the first three games, they ought to have made Sonya a bit more recognizable. I'm not saying put her in green spandex, but they could have done better than this.

She's sexy, yes. But she doesn't feel very MK to me.
EDIT: cross the widow part. I think it was her fiancee that was murdered. Or was that even canon?
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~Crow~
11/20/2010 04:58 PM (UTC)
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I don't doubt the gameplay will be decent, I'm not really speaking to that. Both Mileena (and especially Kitana) look fun to play as, but their designs are not to my liking. Mileena I can forgive because that's expected at this point, but Kitana and Sonya are both overexposed for their characters. Sonya hardly even looks like Sonya here. She looks more like a cross between Nina Williams and Lara Croft. I dare say this is her worst look to date because it doesn't even seem to fit her. Granted I was never a fan of the Kerri Hoskins workout model, but in MK:DA they seemed to start getting the designs of these two characters to a place I thought was great.

Character design is important for me. I love Shang Tsung, but if he was fighting in nothing but a sumo mawashi then I would have a big problem with that no matter how awesome his gameplay was.
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iAmEFFeX
11/20/2010 05:00 PM (UTC)
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Another great design in my opinion, Good work!
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queve
11/20/2010 05:01 PM (UTC)
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MKSquad Wrote:
WOW here we go again......


I actually agree with Crow for the most part:

~Crow~ Wrote:
Yet another god awful design for a female character. So sick of this. I guess it isn't hard to see why they do this, the community seems to eat it up. I can't fault them if this is what the majority seems to want, and it definitely seems that way.

But hey, why should female characters be respectable looking? They're just there to "turn on" all the young male gamers right? Not to be serious characters, just some nice eye candy. First it's been decided no female character needs a shirt and absolutely must have half their breasts exposed. Maybe by the next game they'll decide they don't need any pants either.


This is definitely not an awful design. It's actually one of the best new ones for this new game.

However, I totally agree with his points regarding the females being too exposed and being there as "eye candy" material.

WTF is up with that?

It shouldn't be that way, specially with someone like Sonya. She's easily still the most respectable and modest looking of the female cast, but, having her breasts exposed like this is very unfitting for her.

A shirt. A simple shirt would make her seem more like the Sonya we know. This is certainly not a bad costume, she looks great, but, yes, I feel like something is missing (obviously, the shirt).

She's never shown this much, even if it's not that much, it's still not quite like Sonya.
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Linkdarkside
11/20/2010 05:03 PM (UTC)
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damn she look awesome. hopefully we get good pics soon.
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11/20/2010 05:06 PM (UTC)
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FUCK! her gloves aren't what I had in mind, another complete failure by NRS.
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queve
11/20/2010 05:14 PM (UTC)
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~Crow~ Wrote:
...but Kitana and Sonya are both overexposed for their characters.


Agreed.

~Crow~ Wrote:
Sonya hardly even looks like Sonya here. She looks more like a cross between a Tekken Williams sister and Lara Croft.


Sonya does look like Sonya.

And the Nina-ish and Lara-ish resemblance is a totally welcomed addition.

That's actually a very big plus in my book, not the other way around. I'm glad she is sporting this "new" aura around her.

~Crow~ Wrote:
I dare say this is her worst look to date because it doesn't even seem to fit her. Granted I was never a fan of the Kerri Hoskins workout model, but in MK:DA they seemed to start getting the designs of these two characters to a place I thought was great.


The exposure of her breasts is very unfitting for her. I agree. Where the f*ck was the MKteam's head when they forgot to give her the shirt? The vest is super cool, but, the look just doesn't seem complete for her.

The overall design still screams "Sonya Blade" though (cool vest, sexy boots, tough pants, straps around her, etc), so I disagree with that part. It's not like she changed her hair color or like is fighting in an Edenian bikini (half naked).

At this point of MK's and Sonya's history, if I had to pick "her worst" look that would easily be MK1 and MK3. She looks great in both games for "back then", not so much today. This new look is a trillion times better than anything we saw back in 1992-1998.

I welcome all her fantastic designs and themes from MK4-MK9. Easily.

Actually, this new look might probably top my fave Sonya look (MKvsDC). Gotta wait to see more.

MEGAFIRE Wrote:
FUCK! her gloves aren't what I had in mind....


Thank you very much. I agree. This and the lack of a shirt are my main issues. The vest is a fantastic new addition though.
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MKSquad
11/20/2010 05:17 PM (UTC)
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I mean I agree with Crow for the most part as well but I wouldn't go as far as to say it's an awful design but for me PERSONALLY it's already one of fave outfits so far from Sonya and even JC's new look is already my fave look for him! I've wanted a more feminine look for Sonya and it may be overly sexy but I love it!
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11/20/2010 05:20 PM (UTC)
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It's getting to the point where I am really not going to expect much more than dental floss to cover the rest of the females in this game, no matter WHAT their character is like. Why? Because NRS can't design a female any other way. Period.

Crow mentioned that a lot of the posts on this board would point to that this is what a lot of male fans (particularly the young prepubecents) would want. While I agree that some posts (mainly the, er, rather excitable ones) point to that, I would say that there are a surprising number still that see it as we do: that it's an uninspired design that does NOT fit her character.

One other post mentioned that she is "sexy" and that is what Sonya is "all about". No, it's not what Sonya is "all about". She is military. Her partner was murdered. She's a rather high-ranking officer. And she is tough.
This design might (at a stretch) point at the "tough" characteristic, but it barely hints at the rest of who Sonya really is.

Very sad. I was expecting more creativity from NRS.
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DigitalAssassin
11/20/2010 05:21 PM (UTC)
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I'm confused. She looks like a porn star. Is she trying to impress someone at the tournament? Maybe one of the ninjas? She's a heartbreaker for sure.

Listen all jokes aside, (excuse my language) this design is total shit, she looks like a whore, i'm sorry. NRS please give us an intimidating badass looking sonya.
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MKSquad
11/20/2010 05:22 PM (UTC)
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*files nails* Well I'm sure JC loves Sonya's new look hmph! lol
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11/20/2010 05:22 PM (UTC)
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There is absolutely nothing that catches the eye on this design.

At least Scorpion looks unique (but overdone), but there is little to no detail. Need better picture soon. But overall? Bland.

MK1 was the only time she ever looked decent. MK3 was utterly ridiculous and horrible, MK4 jumped the movie's cock and made her a porcelaine doll face- wise, MKDA looked butch, MK vs DC made her look horrible again, with the bangs. That is not style, that is your own idiocy reflected by poor design choices.


At least Jax rocks like neer before.
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queve
11/20/2010 05:22 PM (UTC)
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How cute:



MKSquad Wrote:
I mean I agree with Crow for the most part as well but I wouldn't go as far as to say it's an awful design but for me PERSONALLY it's already one of fave outfits so far from Sonya and even JC's new look is already my fave look for him! I've wanted a more feminine look for Sonya and it may be overly sexy but I love it!


Totally agreed regarding both Sonya and Johnny. Very cool and fresh new looks.

However, I still feel like Sonya looks "incomplete" without her shirt. It really is a step-backwards in their creative design when you think about it. It kind of tells you how they envision the female fighters.

She looks great, but, incomplete.

It's a shame, really, because this is also becoming my fave look for her. Gotta wait and see it in HQ to decide between this one and MKvsDC.
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Dragonkeeper1982
11/20/2010 05:27 PM (UTC)
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Looks like Sonya to me and I'm happy with her looks, as for gameplay, who am I to judge especially since we've seen nothing in her arsenal yet. I just hope they stick with her classic RINGS and not some stupid recycled orb/fireball type projectile. Her air bike kick was absolutely spectacular in MKvsDC and was a great addition to her. Also, her squarewave punch should differ from that of Kitana, whereas I hope we see both with a different Kiss. If her Fatality doesn't envolve being engulfed by a flame from her Classic Kiss, then I'll be disappointed. Damn, I'm gay and could care less if she fought naked, her gameplay is what I'm way more worried about.
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11/20/2010 05:32 PM (UTC)
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TemperaryUserName Wrote:

But that's not really the biggest problem with the design. If you saw the model by itself, without any context of the game it came from, would you recognize the character as Sonya? I wouldn't. She could be from a new Resident Evil game for all I know.

Sonya's always unrecognizable...
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BIG_SYKE19
11/20/2010 05:33 PM (UTC)
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i wanted somthing "tech wise "on her wrist explaining how she does energy rings. also somthing on her legs because she flies and does the upward bike kick.
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~Crow~
11/20/2010 05:34 PM (UTC)
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Theoretically, Sonya's costume should reflect where her character is in the storyline. As a lieutenant in the US Military, it's hard to fathom this is what she'd be wearing. Even off duty this seems like a stretch to me. It's oversexed just for the sake of being so, therefore I call it a bad character design because it is not befitting to the character.

This game takes place between MK1 and MK3, where Sonya was a lieutenant for the US Military. In the original timeline, she was captured by Shao Kahn and later freed. We don't know those things will hold true, but one that definitely will is that she is a lieutenant still. Character origins are not changing. This is not something that such a character should wear. I am not saying it has to be 100% realistic however, since full army get up would be annoying and you could not compete in a martial arts tournament wearing that. However, I see no point in removing a character's shirt so the breasts can be better exposed. That's not dropping baggage so it's easier to fight, that's oversexing a design for the sake of it. I'm not a huge fan of the skin tight, low riding pants either. I again don't think this is befitting to Sonya as a character.

My opinion for a good Sonya design is simple. It consists of a few things. First would be military combat boots. Obviously it would be hard to do kicks and such with these, but little things like that don't ruin my suspension of disbelief. Some sort of comfortable/loose fitting cargo/camo pants for below the waist, possibly with a belt. A shirt and vest combo matching the color scheme that is unique to Sonya for above the waist. I don't mind an exposed midriff because Sonya has always had this and it used to be a trademark of hers before they decided she was better exposing much more than that. This is just a basic idea of some things, in my opinion, that make up a good Sonya design.

Any time I post in one of these threads on this particular subject, I do so because I care about the personality of the characters and costume goes a long way in saying who the character is. The fact that they seem to design all females with unnecessarily exposed cleavage is just a coincidence, it isn't as if I'd be happy if Sonya was dressed in all black and doing a Shinobi impersonation either. This is simply what game designers in general do to female characters and it lessens their value in my opinion. It makes me feel like they are not being treated as unique and individual characters, but rather breasts with different names. I just cannot understand the point of designing characters with such a narrow-minded view.

Also, it isn't wrong to criticize things you like. I don't like how they design their female characters, but I still like Mortal Kombat and I wouldn't take so much time to share my feelings on this if I simply didn't care at all or was complaining for the sake of complaining.
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11/20/2010 05:37 PM (UTC)
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somthing like this.



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