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ThePredator151Posted: 01/26/2008 09:48 AMStatus ::


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Make the Next Boss a Female....

Well? Who's there that has the potential? Or more importantly, who's there that we can draw from for a female boss?

Or...How would you make her?

I would...make her Nitara's superior, and go....Vampire Folklore. That means power per generation...so the older she is, the more potent her powers are.

Make her...uhhm, let's go thousands of years old. How about as old as humans as a race?. Maybe she was a failed attempt by the elder gods?

As far as her personality is concerned, she should dwarf Quan Chi and Shao Kahn...She should also dwarf Shinnok in fierceness and in appearance. No concern for Onaga, but she might try to boss him around too. lol

Shinnok should have an excruciatingly hard time making her do what he told her(lol), but he would ultimately have the upper hand on her only because he's a god.

She would have ties to Lucifer, granting her some god traits and cursing her with thirst. Although, a vamp that old, could resist her thirst for an extremely long time.

Give her powers like:

1. Persuasion: Shown only in the opening movies and such..She should unnaturally "will//convince" mortals and vampires alike to do what she wanted them to do. Other undead, demons or oni, and wraith are susceptible too, but she'd have to try harder.

To visualize this, maybe give her a pupil effect that changes the pupil shape of her victim. Make it freaky looking. Now that would establish her connection over them outside of the typical aura, or change in speech pattern for the victim. They could talk differently...but only enough to tell that say, they revert to her original tongue. This speech impediment wears off after a short period of time though...for purposes of secrecy of course.

But the persuasion effect should be presented in a way that suggested "Medusa just turned them to stone". But they are still alive, they are still conscious, and they bend to he will. Drone-like, but with more natural personality....like soldiers under her command.

Maybe their mouth, nose holes, ears, and eye sockets glow once she gets a good look into your eyes. This subsides and leaves the mis-shapen pupils.

Also, the longer you are under her command, the more vampire-like you become...

There's potential for another character. But is not be quite a vampire ever.

2. She's not physically aggressive besides maybe scratching the craop out of someone every now and then, but if she did actually punch you, picture that scene from out of Underworld(1:50sec).

I'll stop on those two for powers for now...

Um...her appearance? I'd make her correct per her name. With non-American influence no matter her actual complexion though. Middle Eastern, Asian, or Hispanic....hell even African influence would be good.(think "Voodoo").

Give her some wildly spelled name too. Um..draw from maybe South American history. Maybe "Aztec"(Mexica) or Egyptian culture. Something that means "Poison Queen" or like "Goddess of the Tarantula"...idk.

She should be gorgeous, but deadly. So much so that you don't wanna hit her...thus where that principal comes from for men to women.
"Never hit a woman". When the origin would sound like this:

"You should be cursed to lay hands on someone so delicate and beautiful."

Lol

But when you beat her, she falls apart in some graphically greusome fashion. Melting, crusting, slimey....just "ew".


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Anywho, a couple questions:

1. What do you think of this idea?

2. What would you like to see from a boss if it was a female?

gimme all kinds of details.

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MK-4-LIFEPosted: 01/26/2008 10:09 AMStatus ::


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RE: Make the Next Boss a Female....

I'm not being sexist or anything, but I don't think a female would give the same intimidation of a boss that a male could have. Like, all the bosses so far have been really powerful and strong and crap, especially Shao Kahn and Onaga. But I think if it was a female, it would lose all sense of power and strength that I think a boss should have.

But yeah, if it was a female, you have pretty much already said everything I would want out of her.

Good ideas dude

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ThePredator151Posted: 01/26/2008 10:17 AMStatus ::


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RE: Make the Next Boss a Female....

Really? Well, I can't knock you opinion...

?You haven't seen Queen of the Damned?

I think "women in power" in general are sexy...lol! but if she was a "baddie", and was responsible for death on a massive account. That would own big time.
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Picture the most mean female you have ever come in contact with...now make her unbelievably beautiful.

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Still a no go?

heheh..

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JohnBoyAdvancePosted: 01/26/2008 11:09 AMStatus ::


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RE: Make the Next Boss a Female....

OMG! YOU ARE MESSING WITH THE NATURAL ORDER! MAN = STRONG WOMAN = FAST. SKULL HIM!


I wouldn't be against the next boss being a female.

I don't know about your idea of making it based around the vampires though. However after reading about how she should "die", I thought it would be perfect for the One Being. if it is ever going to make an appearance.

And seeing as the One Being is the "origin" of all of the realms in the Mortal Kombat Universe and in most cases the female gives birth to life, then it is possible for the One Being to be female.

Aquarius_DPosted: 01/26/2008 11:39 AMStatus ::


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I Would really prefer to see a strong female sub-boss. However if they choose to inlcude a female boss, I down with dat. Just as long as she's powerful and super hot

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Sub-Frost055Posted: 01/26/2008 01:36 PMStatus ::


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RE: Make the Next Boss a Female....

I've been saying this since Armageddon. Why should MK have a female boss? Do they honestly think having a female boss will do something bad to MK? Like make it daintier or something? No, we females can do twice as worse as men.

Because heh... girls can put up with pain much more than guys can, if you know what I mean.

If there is a female boss, she should be something more like Anderial from Diablo. (I misspelled her name oh well) Yeah it would be having another Sheeva-like character. But characters like her would make an interesting boss.

Not neccessarily though, I'm pretty sure that MK doesn't need another four or six armed character.

Another shadow character would also be interesting to see. But yet then that means that she's a female version of Noob. But that doesn't mean she can't have different shadow moves and DOES NOT have a single power Noob has had in the past.

Elder Gods, we have a few, I'm not so sure if another is in tthe making.

Damn this is so hard trying to think of something new.

BloodSplatter-ChainsawManPosted: 01/26/2008 01:53 PMStatus ::


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RE: Make the Next Boss a Female....

Indeed.

A concept I've been palying around is Sheeva's (possible illegitemate) stepsister who actually doesn't use fire like every othert damned Shokan. Maybe have her get no superpowers but be assbreakingly tough.


Another concept i was thinking of was involving a flying demon. Of course, it was based of succubi and a character from Thrill kill. Super stealthy and able to teleport. And she can drain your life force (not blood.)

The_TruthPosted: 01/26/2008 04:00 PMStatus ::


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RE: Make the Next Boss a Female....

I think people that have reservations about female bosses should try fighting Kasumi Alpha 152 in DOA4. That jello bitch has speed and power right up the fucking ass. We're talking moves and strings/juggles that will take off more than half a life bar in one shot if you're not careful.

I think if there is to be a female boss it should kind of have a Shang Tsung MK1 approach. Basically a character that doesn't look particularly powerful or strong but actually is both. Overwhelming speed and power. Special moves and techniques that are both hard to judge and/or difficult to counter.

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kingjollyPosted: 01/26/2008 05:04 PMStatus ::


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Having a female as a boss would be a nice change for a change. If not, maybe sub-boss.

outworld222Posted: 01/26/2008 05:54 PMStatus ::


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RE: Make the Next Boss a Female....

It would be cheesy.

Sub-Frost055Posted: 01/26/2008 06:17 PMStatus ::


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RE: Make the Next Boss a Female....

outworld222 Wrote:
It would be cheesy.


Yeah, you and other sexists people out there would say something like this.... JUST JOKING!

But still, I forgot to mention this on my other post, if they're going to make a female boss or sub-boss, can her magombos not be bazookas? I'm tired of seeing female characters always having enormous jajas becuase its mostly all guy creators. Girls like to play characters where they have normal size boobs. Duh.

I'm not saying that its a bad thing, but ITS ALL THE GIRLS ON THE GAME!

outworld222Posted: 01/26/2008 06:27 PMStatus ::


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Sub-Frost055 Wrote:
outworld222 Wrote:
It would be cheesy.




Yeah, you and other sexists people out there would say something like this.... JUST JOKING!



But still, I forgot to mention this on my other post, if they're going to make a female boss or sub-boss, can her magombos not be bazookas? I'm tired of seeing female characters always having enormous jajas becuase its mostly all guy creators. Girls like to play characters where they have normal size boobs. Duh.



I'm not saying that its a bad thing, but ITS ALL THE GIRLS ON THE GAME!


Naa, I'm saying make all the female characters you would like, female characters are ok, but I don't think they fit the boss title for MK8.

AsesinoPosted: 01/26/2008 07:22 PMStatus ::


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RE: Make the Next Boss a Female....

Why not make the next boss hermaphrodite or sexless ?

ChromePosted: 01/27/2008 05:24 AMStatus ::


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RE: Make the Next Boss a Female....

Asesino Wrote:
Why not make the next boss hermaphrodite or sexless ?


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Anyway I am fully for the female boss, subboss idea. MK sufferes from inferior boss syndrome. Just look at the crapfest we had with Motaro, MK4 Goro and the undividedly boring Blaze of MKA.

At least Moloch had charisma.

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Sub-Frost055Posted: 01/27/2008 10:38 AMStatus ::


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RE: Make the Next Boss a Female....

Chrome Wrote:
Asesino Wrote:
Why not make the next boss hermaphrodite or sexless ?




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Anyway I am fully for the female boss, subboss idea. MK sufferes from inferior boss syndrome. Just look at the crapfest we had with Motaro, MK4 Goro and the undividedly boring Blaze of MKA.



At least Moloch had charisma.


Blaze was nothing but a same move repeating cheater. Oh my god, even on easy!

If they're going to have a female boss coming in, this one better not have cheasy ass moves where they just keep you in a corner and kick the shit out of you while you only either gave them one punch or they come out of the match with a flawless victory.

And for me personally, I don't think that bosses should reflect special moves unless they are giant. It really bothers me that bosses cannot be touched with special powers. Unless you have every character relfecting powers, then bosses should not relfect. Simple as that.

CasselmanPosted: 01/27/2008 12:21 PMStatus ::


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i thought onaga was a girl... lmao, jk.

i thinka female boss would be a great idea for many reasons already stated. good idea.

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ThePredator151Posted: 01/28/2008 05:11 AMStatus ::


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RE: Make the Next Boss a Female....

What might make up how she looks:

1. From the Aztec(Mexica) heritage, note the head-wear only. Overall feel maybe:

Head wear. Maybe face paint

2. Could be an alternate costume element, that notes how traveled she would be after thousands of years.

Long Coat Meets Dominatrix...take away that hat.

3. From Indian(not native american) Culture..

Jewlery only

4. Another instance were it could be an alternate costume of ethnic suggestion. In this alt, I don't mean to be exact or specific, I only mean to suggest "Kimono".

Kimono

5. There could be some story tidbits behind her wearing any cultures wedding attire, but I found this one to diversify more...

African Brides Dress

Ect ect...All the cultures have many possibilities. Especially because women, no matter where they are cultured, wear some really extravagant things.

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Since this is a proposition for an "evil female boss" character, she might draw most of her design qualities from the "dark-er parts" from whatever culture she's representing. Per whatever the costume she's wearing at the time.

Ex.
African = Voodoo, Mexican = Day of the Dead, American = Halloween..ect. Cultures worship differently, or have unique rituals to celebrate their fallen.

Also, I wanna make sure to note that, none of the costumes should be "exactly" from whatever culture. To my understanding, Vampires violate alot because they have nothing to live for...or loose.

So anything this character wears would always be loosely based on a culture, per her taste, and what she likes from the culture she was exposed to. I think this would allow flexibility in her design choices, and not insult any actual belief. I'm only suggesting "hues" from any culture, from anywhere, and a mix of them in a costume at a time.

What she is designed like, would also depend on "when" we were in time. Giving her depth as a character, she might or might not care to fit in to the society she was put into.... "Where" is important too, because if she's not from earth realm, no holds barred as far as what she looks like.

I think she should be big too. Like really tall for a woman...6ft 5in or something. Making her an unusually sized woman for the span of time she was born in. This makes her "boss-like" in the traditional MK sense, and intimidating.
It's two fold then because to alot of people, striking beauty is enough....but for her to be physically impressive counts too. NOT muscular(like some amazon braud stereotype, and not "super dainty" either)...just really tall and strikingly beautiful.

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Since we're talking about a boss character, I think her personality should be extremely self centered for her causes. She should be able to reason well, but only because she's been around for so long and has learned her way around taking things from individuals who she can't just push over.

She should be radically strict with any followers, and she should sting in speech pattern. A "law" or "code" would be ideal for the path of her beliefs, snd "by any means necessary" should supersede what Raiden is doing in his story right now.

Right there would be where we identify the difference between the two, good and evil....or simply "Earth Law" vs something totally different. She wouldn't be taking anything over like Kahn, or protecting anything like Raiden...She'd be emotionally driven like a woman should be....just, because she's so old and has a lot of wisdom about her objectives...she'd be painfully tactical and very unorthodox about how she manipulates and uses individuals.

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1. A whip, would probably fit...add some crazy effect like fire or muliple tails//spikes//whatever...Even a Morning Star("ball and chain"....or spiked ball, long chain like that girl in Kill Bill). Could be kenetic too, so that it changes per her command.

2. The three way staff wouldn't be bad. I think a regular staff might be a little boring for her...And besides, I think it'd be more interesting that if she had a staff, that maybe it changed per her command as well.

3. The biggest weapon she would probably use is some sort of sorcery. Necromancy isn't out of the question, but plants and animal commands might fit in there too.

4. The pipe & darts are up there for a projectile...not the ninja stars though. Imagine movement of the head gear I mentioned when she spits those at you...


Enough for now...

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MK-4-LIFEPosted: 01/28/2008 08:06 AMStatus ::


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RE: Make the Next Boss a Female....

Sub-Frost055 said:

It really bothers me that bosses cannot be touched with special powers.


Hooray! Someone else thinks so! Onaga really pissed me off in Deception how he could not be touched by special powers, and whenever u tried to touch him with a combo, he would just block then pound you! He was impossible!

So I think if this new boss is female, she should be able to be affected by special powers. Otherwise it will be next to impossible to beat her.

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I think it'd be interesting to see a female boss and/or sub-boss. It would be a nice change of things, and she could prove to be quite formidable if done right.

Chrome Wrote:
Asesino Wrote:
Why not make the next boss hermaphrodite or sexless ?




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Anyway I am fully for the female boss, subboss idea. MK sufferes from inferior boss syndrome. Just look at the crapfest we had with Motaro, MK4 Goro and the undividedly boring Blaze of MKA.



At least Moloch had charisma.


What charisma??

AsesinoPosted: 01/28/2008 11:14 AMStatus ::


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I would like female boss only of Andariel's rank.

For those who have no idea who she is :

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Anyone remember this Ninja Gaiden boss?

Some kind of sorceress like her would be cool.

MKGurlPosted: 01/28/2008 09:29 PMStatus ::


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By looking at what you posted,
I'm trying to get the best mental image I can of this female boss.

What if she had black/green/purple hair? Or is that stupid sounding?

Please don't blast me, but these are the best I found:
Kinda dark look



Eye makeup idea:



I know she doesn't fit the Aztec/African/Egyptian, but that's what was close.
I would like to find a woman more tan/ethnic to fit your descriptions.



LycaniLLusionPosted: 01/28/2008 09:37 PMStatus ::


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im not saying it would be a bad idea but i dont know if it would fit the bill for an mk game. i like the idea of andariel from diablo,she looks cool. maybe they could introduce another mythological creature as a female boss...for instance a harpy or a medusa.
all in all i really think it would be cool to have a female boss aslong as she is outer of this world powerful and looks wicked and evil(preferably not human).

ThePredator151Posted: 01/29/2008 10:44 AMStatus ::


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Bare bones...yep, you got it.

The first lady looks like a vampire already...the pale skin is about right on. Whether she had an olive skintone when she was still alive might be a plus, but pale is pale, y'know? That sort of grey'd, un-dead skin look is what you want.

She'd need some make-up or face paint too, like the second lady you have, or the first lady posted. Something along those lines where, it compliments her natural beauty, and her authority. Something that defines her like Raidens hat, or Mileenas teeth, but not exactly a "badge". More like, just an "emphasis". An outline if you will, or some sort of unique pattern.

As many women do, I think she should have a bunch of options for her hair, and her clothes. Being we'll traveled should allow her this. I like the whole "English-woman" thing she has going for her in that image, the only thing is, what she's wearing I'd like to have contradict how noble she looks. Something oriental might fit, but really just as long as she's Not dressed "according to any cultures rule" would go well.

Brighter, contrasting colors with bold, defining lines could look good on a model like that. Or even that patten leather look for boots could work. She should look wild.
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The second girl has an attribute about her that says "deceptive innocents". It looks like she could be in the middle of a conversation that's setting someone up. "Oh, well little ol me? Against the big bad warriors of Earth?..." ect ect... then she insults everyone with some crazy punchline. haha good stuff.

I like how the makeup and pattern on her shirt kinda says "oriental". It has a mystique about it, and the possibility of being interpreted as "What are you Hiding?"

The biggest thing I like about the second lady, is that there's nothing about her that says "powerful". Which is very devious, deceptive, and contrary to how women have been being displayed in the public eye, and media as of late. She looks pretty, and dainty. She looks soft and harmless. Lol!

I love that the most because the best threats are ones you can't see coming. If they ever made a female boss, this should be her greatest visual attribute. It's so perfect because when you fight her...she beats the hell out of you. Which is both aggravating, and satisfying at the same time. Ha!

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Just wanted to kinda restate that how harmless she looks should be off-set by how offensive the clothing, make-up and jewelry looks. So a head shot of her would never let on the truth about how she actually fights.

And that I think she should have lots of alternate costumes..maybe as many as five because she's been everywhere....and "bitten" into alot of different cultures.

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1. Azula(the girl).. She does that condescending, sort of deceptive look while she's talking to Zuko in this video. She's so evil it doesn't make any sense...lol

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RE: Make the Next Boss a Female....

I remember before MKA's release that I posed the possibility of Tanya becoming boss for the game and many were opposed to the idea but some didn't mind the idea of having a female boss. Queve made a great thread before MKD's release which showed the possibiities of a female boss and the main reaction was that a female boss would be welcome as the sub boss. Personally, I'd love a female boss character as the final or sub boss and it'd be a nice change to MK's overly masculine boss line ups.

If there were a female boss, I'd like her to be fast, agile, sexy and dominating in appearance. she should have an aura of wonder and authority that makes a person take notice but at the same time be slightly afraid. She should be gentle looking and beautiful throughout all of this to give a false impression of her hidden power and fireceness and she should definitely be seductive and the sort of femme fatale you love to hate but at the same time love because she's so damn kickass. Her name should be one that is sexy, unique and it should be one that voices intrigue and authority or power when spoken. Yeah, I love my women in fighters. And the above is how they all should be - boss or not!

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