Yeah, I was thinking the same thing as well. Normally, a place like IGN would jump all over the chance to show off a Batman render, but this game has been fairly low-key so far. I'm sure that'll change when more is revealed of, you know, the GAME itself, but for now, reactions remain mixed, and likely will remain mixed.

I've mentioned this game to nearly all of my friends, some DC fans, some MK fans, some fans of neither, some fans of both, and I always get the same, "Huh?" reaction when they learn about this game. So far, none of them have acted the least bit interested in this game, which has actually been rather surprising.

I'm not sold on it either. I was wanting a "reboot" for THIS installment. I didn't get what I wanted, but I won't be a child about it and begrudge the gaming for that. Still, this game has yet to impress me like Soul Calibur IV, or even Street Fighter IV, has (and I'm not that interested in Street Fighter IV either.)

If this game is going to be any sort of success, it needs exposure. IGN was right to claim that this series is in dangerous risk of becoming an unnecessary by-product of 90's era fighting game exploitation.

Seriously, though, from the comic book side, nobody knows, or cares, about this game. If you're going to do a crossover with DC, and DC pretty much is ignoring that the game even exists, what does that say? If you want to make this game WORK you need both parties heavily involved. DC should release, at the very least, a mini-series of new Mortal Kombat comics. Right now, if you just read the comics, there would be absolutely no way to know this crossover is even in existence unless you're a devout gamer.

I'm actually not surprised the way the hyped up Armageddon

well it is DC....

MK vs DC is a game people wouldn't think of in a million years.

Yeah, that should bring up some hype, but when when you don't think about it, you don't care. Obviously they don't care.

I think that ship sailed a long time ago.
The critical gaming community probably has the least reason to like it, but I think most circles outside of MK's are ambiguous, ignorant, or happy to regard the series as an exceptionally quaint piece of pop culture history.

Which is maybe a little disappointing for the improvements we have seen that keep fans (like me) holding interest.

if you actually write all this thread on the Midway forums,you'll surely get flamed.
i totally agree with the thread opener:this game,good or abysmal,it's not interesting.
I'm really dissapointed by the game so far,i won't buy the game,especiallr in novwmber when i'm waiting for Gears of war 2 which won't be a masterpiece,but will be a solid game

After the last few Mortal Kombat outings I certainly can see why. Midway has a bad habit of spouting shit which never comes to fruition, and in the end you get a lot of undeserved hype for at best a mediocre game. Midway simply doesn't have a good track record for their titles, and it doesn't appear to be helping when (if 1UP is to be believed) Midway blackballs publications for negative feedback on their games.

Probably because there's so little info on it and Boon just keeps saying the same damn things over and over in his interviews that there's no point in giving a shit until it comes out.

Yea man I noticed that too. I was on one of my random Google searches for some rare picture of MK for a signature, and of course MKvsDC pops up.

Led my interest to more than a few MK and DC forums, other gaming forums, and a few random articles on news sites and the ect about the game. You see, even though I soon forgot about the signature I was making, and actually spent a couple hours inquiring on people who may be inquiring....The reaction was largely negative, or not at all. There were the occasional "this looks interesting" comments, but nothing all too overwhelming to report from my searches.

The lack of reporting on sites like IGN and Gamespot seems....odd. Especially because of the "shock" & controversy that this game seemed to have generated when it was first announced. They are not reporting the renders, they are not reporting the concept arenas, or the interviews. There's barely any excitement about the game on those same sites' forums. There is however, the same couple people who do like the game, and are repeating that message through out.

So, it's led me to think that this is either a hoax(unlikely, I know), or maybe there are some embargoes still out there(still, I know), or this game is just a big turn off to everybody.

I think it's most likely that it's just a big turn off. Not just that nobody expected, or could have imagined the game to be what it is, but more, nobody would ever actually want to see this game come to fruit. More or less that MK would actually consider a crossover in the first place. But, maybe that's just me.

The worst part about it for me, and I think what's really turning people off, is that they keep selling MK to us. When it's a game that sells itself. Y'know? The formula is pretty simple, and I'm amazed at how far away from that formula they traveled to get shock value and controversy.

The game's premise, hell, the game itself is shock and controversy to the gaming industry. It seems apparent to me what they're weaknesses and strengths are from that standpoint. *Gameplay*

the gaming world doesnt exactly care about MK in general...sucks but its true

There is at least one embargo, and that one is Gamespot, who have said that they've seen a great deal of the roster and said something along the lines of "there's a good balance of heroes and villains for each side."

I think it goes back to one of the things I've said since the beginning (back when I was ready to rip Boon's head off): all this game really has going for it right now is shock value, and that's already worn off by now.

The gaming community in general has already drawn what they could from the "shocking news" of MK Vs. DC with the previews and stunned reactions, but when that blew over, all that was left were renders of Batman, Superman, Sub-Zero, etc. It makes me fear the possibility that nothing exceptionally impressive might come out of this game in the coming months, which would lead to very little hype in the gaming community toward the game as well as continuous disappointment for the fans themselves. Then you also have to think about Armageddon, which didn't live up to all the hype IMHO. So take the general disappointment of the last game and mix it with the "nothing too worthy to talk about" attitude toward MK Vs. DC right now, and you have yourself a sad soup of crushed dreams and wavering hopes..... lmao, what the fuck...

I really doubt that the gaming world doesn't care about MK, seeing how it was one of the games that shocked the world in its debut back in the 90s.

Just because some of the games haven't been all that great doesn't mean that the gaming world has lost faith in a series that changed gaming in life.

Duh. After Armageddon's disaster of a game, It'd be obvious.

Could MK go the way of Sonic?

Could MK go the way of Sonic... Wow, that's a question that gets ya thinking. I mean, I was shocked when I saw someone from IGN taking a shot at MK vs DC. As I said, IGN is usually pretty soft on their reviews, but as far as talking about games before they come out? Well, they're even softer in my opinion.

So to have someone from IGN already thumbing his nose at this game, well, it really surprised me. I mean, that's the kind of garbage you get on the 1up network, where everything but the biggest of major releases usually gets shots taken at them. But it got me thinking. What are other sites saying about MK vs DC?

The answer? Well, not much at all. As another poster said, no one is showing the new renders, no one has interviews with Ed Boon. So yeah, is MK going the way of Sonic? I never started this thread because I was angry at the direction of the new MK. Sure, I'm not happy about it, but it was more my surpise at what really seems to be a collective shrug of the shoulders from the gaming press and most gamers in general that brought me here.

I always thought that MK, like most series would either continue strong or simply fade into the past. But I never thought that MK would become, well, irrelevant. Yeah, MK was a cultural icon in video games back in the 90's, but it's 2008 now, and the MK team is a long way from their chart topping past.

I really think that this game is either going to end MK for good, or it's going to blow up in Midway's face to the point where they have to reexamine, yet again, what the MK series can do keep fans and gain a new audience, because the 13 to 18 crowd that loved MK back in 92 or 93 are now adults and the 13 to 18 crowd that plays video games now doesn't care at all about a series that was in it's prime when they were toddlers.

Slapping the MK series in with another big name isn't the route to go in my opinion and while I don't want to go down that negative road and start an argument, I still think that the best way to relaunch MK is to relaunch the series itself and not try to add some hook, gimmick or hackneyed idea to replace a great new story, great new gameplay and great new characters. Today's gamer has more choices than ever and that kind of junk simply won't fly.

If MK is coming out in November, a month that is typically one of the biggest in gaming as far as triple A releases, they have to bring something great, and so far I haven't seen it in the concept. Hopefully the execution will convince me that my first impressions are wrong. Hopefully the gaming press and gamers at large will see this as well.

Only Meat-Blaze can save the MK universe now.

It's true. MK is a fallen God of video games. Over the years, it's become a joke. Hopefully they will do a series reboot after this flops.

What makes you think this isn't the reboot? We can only hope the gameplay isn't shit this time around.

No it's Mortal Kombat, DC has over a half a century of success that Mortal Kombat can't even begin to touch, Batman and Superman are cultural icons where as Scorpion and Sub-Zero represent a dying trend in gaming.



Couldn't have said it better myself, and why should they? Mk hasn't churned out a decent release since 2002 and even that's debatable.



Mortal Kombat went the way of Sonic after MK4 and then again after Dead Alliance's piss poor follow ups.

Well it is not only MK .....
They only care about FS games some other new games such as Gears of War and Metal Gear .
It is not only MK

Tekken has nothing
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/tekken6/images.html?
om_act=convert&om;_clk=tabs&tag;=tabs;images

VF 5 got their renders released after the game itselfe was released

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/virtuafighter5/images.html?om_act=convert&om;_clk=tabs&tag;=tabs;images

SC4 got their art works which serves as renders for the series in March a lont time passed since the first trail for the game .
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/soulcaliburiv/images.html?om_act=convert&om;_clk=tabs&tag;=tabs;images

SF4 got few official pics while the others are Fan submited ..

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/streetfighteriv/images.html?cat=24&mode;=user

I am in agreement with you that gaming world dont care about MK but they also losing their care of any other fighting game ..

It is because that fighting games are considered fans services .I have a theory that sites such as GS and IGN cover new ideas ,games get huge changes and a new game to a long stoppes series .

The idea is that it is hard to get new fans to a fighting game .If you like Tekken5 then you will love Tekken 6 the same can be said to SC3-SC4 but cant be said to SF4 because it was a long time for the series to release a game ..
But for MK one cant say anything .Because we are not sure nor they about how many changes did Midway put in the games ..

So untill the next E3 or any longer newer trail . MK may get the eyes of the sites or continue to lose it .

Once this game hits shelves it'll sell, not a doubt in my mind. A lot of people as we've seen have doubts, but it's based on a little, dinky teaser no more then 10 seconds of gameplay which is just absurd to judge on as far as I'm concerned and a few renders....

That on top of the fact that Midway/DC are being very low key about it, I mean it was big news in April with the announcement but as far as the game, we really don't know much yet then IGN will be like everyone else, trying to get the first news out there once there's more about the actual game.

We really don't know much so far other then MK vs. DC, few renders and one little teaser....that's virtually nothing. Now, if we had 5 trailers and still no hype on anyones part I'd start wondering, but it could just be the fact of DC's involvement too.....

Sadly, not only are there MK haters out there but we live in a more "pro marvel" era sadly and due to that, you'll see lots of ignorant fans speaking of MK/DC not knowing a thing about either....I only think this because of the many "MK vs. Marvel" threads on here....and a few other sites, I mean DC is cool, MK is cool...I think more people need to relax as I've said now a million times LITERALLY. Give the game a chance to get off it's feet, judging it now is just not only presumpturous but not wise at all.

I'm sure if anyone of us were making something, we'd want to see the game get on it's feet before being judged. Right? I try my best to see things from all sides, fans, developers, makers, writers etc....not just "the fans" or "the developers"

You make alot of valid points mkflegend, but it's not the MK haters that I'm worried about. MK has always had it's share of haters. When Street Fighter was king, all of the so called "fighting game purists" would knock MK for using what they saw to be flash instead of substance. Of course, I thought that the 2D MK games had alot of substance in terms of gameplay, though it might not have been as refined as SF.

It's the indifference that seems to be coming from gamers and the media. The MK team hasn't been completely silent. They've released some renders etc, but NO ONE in the main stream of games, from the press to the players are even talking about this game.

Of course, you're probably right. Maybe I am just jumping the gun on this. But honestly, as a long time MK fan, well, I'm not even that excited about this idea.

MK vs DC is certainly not going to win over the hard core fighting game fan because the MK team has demonstrated, essentially since they failed to grow and improve upon the gameplay from MK:DA, that they can't make a fighting game that stands up to the VF's, SC's and Tekken's in terms of gameplay.

Fighting games are a nitche now, so it's probably not going to lure a ton of casual gamers or nonfighting game people.

DC fans probably aren't clamoring to see their long time favorite characters duking it out with MK characters.

So where is the audience for this game? Sure, it might outperform my expectations, but my point is that the silence from the media and gamers shows apprehension at best and indifference at worst. Apprehension can be alleviated by a great product. Even if MK has been, well, adequate for MK fans in it's last few iterations, there's at least the chance, like you said, that MK vs DC could still be awesome.

But indifference? If MK vs DC can't shock people into being interested, then it looks like the MK team has a lot more to prove than I even thought before when the trailer came out, and that's the most shocking part for me.

I think that's a bullshit approach to this type of media//entertainment overall. This is a video game. So, while I agree on the specific, factual issue of "you can not judge the gameplay until you play it" (it is near impossible to draw an adequate conclusion without experiencing it, so I agree with that. But only that.), everything else you said there is either false, or it's pure speculation. On whatever grounds you'd like the statement to stand on.

The "switch", so to speak, that is supposed to turn people on about a game, is it's pre-released content. Specifically, and especially for a 15 year old gaming franchise. The fact of the matter is, they need to let us know another game is coming if they want to sell the thing. And if they're 15yrs old(suggesting that there was success at some point within the franchises history) it's very likely they're gonna spend a decent amount of attention to whatever that pre-released content is....in order to ignite more peoples interest in the coming product. Because they want to sell it. That's partially economics, partial personal experience doing business, and partial speculation on a franchise that I am not a part of, but know about....

With that said MKF, this IS the "getting off it's feet" that is in progress right now. What's surprising about this process, and considering people were waiting for this game, there is an impression in the gaming world that "nobody cares about this game". Reguardless of the "shock" and the "haters"...and what have you. Judging by the reaction to this game thus far (YES "judging"), it's not off to a very good start. It doesn't have alot of people talking about it. And of those that are actually talking about it, whom are not gaming news reporters btw, it's negative.

The most excitement that I've seen, has come from the MK sites. And I'm not even underestimating either. I've checked around a bit myself. Yea, I saw you on the DC site, I just didn't post. lol

But, it's one thing to get people's attention for your product before-hand by shocking them. But the important issue here is whether that attention will persuade people to buy the game come release...

The flaw in what you're saying, is that people shouldn't have an opinion about the pre-released content until the game is released. That's Wrong, especially for this type of media. We are supposed to make judgments based on whatever they choose to show us before the game is released. Same deal for Demos & Beta, essentially. Because even then, while you are actually getting to play the game, we know that it is not the final product and there will be problems. But the point is, to play it, and tell them what we think before-hand so they can make the necessary changes before we buy it. Dig?

So, essentially what you are telling me, is "don't judge it until you buy, and or merely play the final product".

Doesn't work like that for video games man. The only time that it did work that way, is back in the arcades. Where we had no choice but to "find" a new game in the arcade halls one day.

I'm saying, stop knocking people that you call "haters" for judging the pre-released content. Because that's exactly what is supposed to happen with video games now days. It even works that way across different media now. For instance, a preview to a coming movie, or a snippet of a song could turn you away from seeing a movie, or buying a whole album.

The reason why? Because you did ,or did not like what you saw in the pre-released content. You made a judgment based on your personal preferences before it came out. Bottom line.

So again, it's not "bad" to judge this games pre-released content. It's not even "bad" to judge gameplay before playing it (it's just not wise to judge gameplay before playing it)However little there may be of the pre-released content. But, you//me//we are supposed to make these kinds of conclusive, OR inconclusive decisions about a game before we buy it.

Going against that logic challenges the consumer in us. All pure consumers want, is to make sure they're spending their money on something good. How else to get that reassurance unless the producer of the product shows us something, or yes, lets us sample something before we spend money on it? That's the way of trade.



I agree again.

It's not just "haters" (me, you, and others by his generalization), it's been almost two months from the announcement. Which, btw note, it's really close to release for them to announce the game in April by industry standard now. SF4,SC4, & Tekken started leaking stuff last year? Wasn't it?

But, without even considering people that are//were initially turned off about the game, the Gaming News reporters are lackluster for content on this game.

I mean for instance, I don't like Tekken, but I found out about that game from IGN, in Feb I think it was...Found out about SC4 just before December last year I think....Found out about SF4 in January, Months before any of those games' release.

Now, the point here is, if the initial shock worked but doesn't resonate with buyers, and we're this close to ther release date. Umm, Haymaker on E3 and a promo from the Batman movie? lol

If the general populous forgot about this games "tremendous shock value" inside two months, from E3 -- and even the release of the Batman movie, there's still almost 3-4 months left. Assuming the release date is in Oct-Nov.

What kind of campaign are they running?

Also, consider that this "historical" presidential elections, voting period is right around that time this year. Ignited by some 18million voters...lol Kidding me?

Put out a Barack Obama game maybe? lol.

Anyway..

Baraka407, you make good points and I'm inclined to agree a lot. Thinking about it rationally I can't think of who the audience this game is supposed to cash in with is. MK fans are generally pretty annoyed, DC fans are generally pretty indifferent, people who love competitve fighting games have learnt not to touch anything with an MK logo on it, and the "casual gamers" who've always been roped in by MK's "dark" artwork and gore are being shortchanged for camp superheros and more youngin friendly violence. The reaction this game has got with general public from what I've seen has been, "wow, that's a shitty crossover, but kind of interesting. When's the new Street Fighter game out?" Even looking at this site, like... I remember lurking when past games were announced, and this is the stage where the site goes NUTS with activity, once the game has been announced, talked about, renders are being released, etc. But it's comparitively quiet here. Really fucking quiet compared to this stage when MKD was announced. There's just a huge vibe of "meh." Maybe gamers are just burnt out on MK right now, I don't know.

But I still think that somehow this game is going to sell well. In fact I'm pretty sure it is. I just can't figure out who'll be buying it, but somebody will. I get the feeling it's going to be huge for absolutely no reason whatsoever and nobody will ever figure out how.