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DC Universe Injustice

Discussing DC Injustice and Mortal Kombat versus DC Universe.
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Pink_RangerPosted: 04/23/2008 11:41 AMStatus ::


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MK vs DCU Ranting Thread!

Rather than have everyone post their own opinions on the MK game I thought it would be easier for everyone to have a single thread devoted solely for that purpose. It will help eliminate needless threads on the board and help keep a more diverse selection of threads on the first page.

I'm hoping that everyone will read this and decide to post in here because any random opinion threads are going to be closed. These boards will be very active over the next year and we all need to try and keep it as organized as possible so that it's easier for people to navigate.

Rant on...

ErmacRainPosted: 04/23/2008 11:52 AMStatus ::


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RE: MK vs DCU Ranting Thread!

MyLastRant

i think this game is a really bad idea . Not only that, it is a shell of a game with few features and they are just hoping to cash in on the DC brand. I will not play it unless it gets rave reviews. I stuck by MK for a long time and this is a sell out move and i aint buying.


Aquarius_DPosted: 04/23/2008 12:08 PMStatus ::


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RE: MK vs DCU Ranting Thread!

Well I'm hoping that this game will be a huge success and lay the foundation needed for MK9.

But since this is the ranting thread, I will say that the absence of Fatalities is a great loss to MK. Finishing moves will never replace Fatalities. The Finishing moves idea reminds me of the SNES 'Moral Kombat' days. lol.


p.s. I really like your Avatar, Pink_Ranger. S.P.D. was one of my fav series

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leverpeberPosted: 04/23/2008 12:25 PMStatus ::


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I agree, MK VS DCU i hope for great success.
I also thought the whole sellout idea through and ed boon not wanting this, just for the money, that might be the case.

But try see it from a gamers point of view, and not some fundamentalist MK fans view.

alot have said: This is not mortal kombat any more, then stop seeing this as a MK game and just look at it as a fighting game.

im looking much foward too this game,

and why are we ranting so much over like 10seconds of the first "gameplay video"

shadowcatPosted: 04/23/2008 01:15 PMStatus ::


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RE: MK vs DCU Ranting Thread!

The most horrible idea

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GarladorPosted: 04/23/2008 01:35 PMStatus ::


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RE: MK vs DCU Ranting Thread!

Well, here's my rant:

As a MK fan, I'm majorly disappointed with the direction the series is heading. This isn't so much that the direction its heading is a bad direction, but not the direction I expected or wanted.

Given just how high my expectations were, this is a massive waste of potential. A crossover game may be neat, fun, and worth playing, but it's creatively dry and vastly unimaginative.

Boon and co. could've taken MK to a whole 'nother level, rebuilt the cast from the ground up, returned it to its darker roots, and given us a game that, like the first game, would have the mom's talking about how bad it was that little Timmy could rip someone's head off.

A MK vs. DC game has already been stated to have no new characters. That right there is a sign that they just didn't want to take the time to create any new characters. The story is being written by some comic book guys instead of internally. The more I hear about the game, the more I feel like they're just taking the easy way out instead of risking a genuine new MK game on the market to compete with powerhouses like Tekken 6 and Soul Calibur IV.

The exclusion of over-the-top gore and fatalities is baffing. As much as fans want to argue that they were purely window-dressing finishers, they are the single-most reason MK was such a success. It was the gore and fatalities that helped usher in the creation of the ESRB rating board; it was the gore and fatalities that made everyone flock to the original Genesis port and that forced Nintendo to ease up on their censorship. It was the gore and fatalities that made it a culture icon and that was referenced in outside media such as The 40 Year Old Virigin, Robot Chicken, Drawn Together, and many others.

A MK game without gore is like a Grand Theft Auto game without carjacking or a Zelda game without a sword. Can it be done? Sure. Should it be done? Probably not. Boon may be pushing the boundaries of a T-rating, but that doesn't mean any one is happy that one of the games most noteworthy and genre-defining features has been eliminated.

Now, here's the big thing: this game could be an E-rated, cartoon fighter versus Teletubbies with bright happy colors and an upbeat soundtrack, but as long as the gameplay was good, then it becomes a good fighting game.

Does MK vs. DCU have the potential to be a good fighting game? Most definitely yes. By eliminating the need to focus on characters, story, or window-dressing fatalities, the team is now free to focus entirely on gameplay. It seems the emphasis this time will be on multi-level combat, such as falling off a skyscrapper, fighting in the streets, fighting into a mall, or something like that. That's a pretty good idea.

However, I remain enormously skeptical of its execution. The past several MK games have been decent, but hardly great fighting games. I've played great fighting games, a lot of them, and MK's last few entries were just passable, hence the entire reason Boon stated they were revamping the fighting engine. Because so much of the game's gameplay is shrouded in mystery, I can't really comment on how well it plays, but judging by their past track record, I'm heavily skeptical, yet optimistic.

Now, for the visuals. I'm an art guy. I'm going to an art school to learn how to do computer art and animation for video games. I look at every game from an artistically critical perspective. The trailer I saw looked resoundingly "meh."

People keep mentioning that the "Unreal Engine 3" could do so much more, and quite frankly, it can. Characters were detailed enough with the polygons, but textures looked very outdated and messy. The art direction wasn't too bad, but it was very similar to past MK games, and hardly "darker" or "grittier" in any way. If they were shooting for "Gears of War" gritty, like Boon once stated, the missed by a long shot. The blood effects looked rather nice and believable for once, and I didn't see too many problems with jaggies or awkward polygons.

But the one thing that really bugged me about the brief segment of the trailer was the animation, which was incredibly sub-par. Now, MK has always been a rather jerky, robotic fighting game, especially compared to the silky-smooth fighting of Tekken, Dead or Alive, and Soul Calibur. I was hopeful that the next MK game would feature ninjas that moved like ninjas instead of pre-programmed robots. Sadly, it looks like the jerky animations will continues, with attacks that look like they follow the same "dial-A combo". Perhaps a big contributor to this is that there were no facial animations at all. Batman getting hit square in the jaw didn't result in so much as a squint from him. His perpetually frowning face never changed. Couple that with him throwing Sub-Zero around like a rag doll, and that the fight looked more like a barroom brawl than a fight between martial art masters, and I came away from the trailer decidedly unimpressed.

But, and this is a big but, the game is far from completion. This is plenty of time for Boon and co. to remedy a lot of these problems. Perhaps this might still be a step in the right direction, if not story, character, or gore wise, at least gameplay wise. Perhaps we'll get combat that is incredibly deep yet easy to execute; perhaps we'll get characters that look and move like real people instead of action figures; perhaps we'll get a game that's balanced, where every character is a contender for top tier; perhaps we'll get a game where they're not cheap enough to hire one voice actor to grunt for every male character.

And perhaps I'll buy the game.......

But, personally, being a life-long fan of the series, and a passionate contributor to this site, I've stuck around with MK through the dark days of Special Forces and MK: Advance, so I don't see this breaking my faith, but for me the most interesting thing about the game was not its gameplay, or its gore, but its story and its characters. Both story and character development have taken a very big hit with this next installment, and unlike more lightheaded, non-canonical crossovers, the MK team is obviously taking this game seriously, which doesn't bode well for the future of such established characters as Sub-Zero and Scorpion, but one that proves fatal for characters that are fairly recent yet almost obviously will be cut in favor of a "popular" roster of characters. As much as I adore Sareena, Hotaru, Kenshi, Ashrah, Nitara, and Frost, I heavily doubt they would even be considered for this next game.

Did Boon and the MK team sell out? Absolutely. There is no question about that. But they're a business, and from a business perspective, it was a great move. Much like how Metallica was accused of "selling out", they replied, "yes, we did... and now we sell out at every concert." This game, from a PR perspective, is already a smashing success, having the boards full of ranting fans, like myself, spreading word of the game and getting people who might otherwise pass up on a MK game interested in it.

They're doing what Nintendo did with the Wii, which was to ignore the "target" hardcore audience and branch out towards a more casual and diverse audience, a formula that has kept them sold out for almost two years.

But.... that doesn't excuse the fact that it's a disservice to the fans who have followed the series for so long through so many ups and downs and who desperately want closure to previous games and previous characters and who, in the end, just want a great MK game, and nothing more. No gimmicks. No crossovers. No stunts. No minigames. No forgettable new characters. No rehashed gameplay. No recycled characters. No broken game mechanics.

I'm a Mortal Kombat fan. I have been and probably will continue to be. As such, I will not blow this game off based entirely on what I dub to be a "bad idea". I thought Zelda: Wind Waker's art style was a "bad idea", and even though I still hate it, the game was still a blast to play. Will MK follow the same route? I have no idea. I don't know enough to formulate an opinion on gameplay that remains shrouded in secrecy. But this game did go from "must buy" to "rental" to "borrow a friend's copy" rather quickly. I'm willing to give it a try, but I'm not willing to go the extra mile and spend any more than I need to for a game I'm vastly skeptical of, but I'm open minded enough to give them the benefit of the doubt.

I guess like quite a few other fans, I'm still waiting for a "real" next-gen MK game, and just a MK game. As it stands, though, my main interest in the series, through character and story, has been on a progressive downward slide in quality, a pattern I don't see changing any time soon.

I desperately hope to be proven wrong, but I have to base what little facts I know on past history, and the history doesn't lie.

But, again, the game is far from completion, there is ample room for change and improvement, and if the game is overall "fun", then it succeeds, regardless of graphical, story, art, audio, or even game balance quality.

But, as a final note, this is MK8, this is next-gen, and the stakes are higher. My expectations have been raised. I expect more, and I am unwilling, unlike the mass majority, to settle for less.

lastfighter89Posted: 04/23/2008 02:31 PMStatus ::


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RE: MK vs DCU Ranting Thread!

i will surely rent it,but i'm dubtful about buying it.
i never liked dc comics(i'm an avid marvel reader) and i can't really see how the two universe caould merge or fit eachother.
no fatalities,no weapons,no realistic fighting styles...is this MK?

ShibataPosted: 04/23/2008 02:48 PMStatus ::


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RE: MK vs DCU Ranting Thread!

Obligatory "this is where I stand" rant:

I'm disappointed at the exclusion of full blown fatalities. Because I'm a Mortal Kombat fan, and that's always been part of the appeal. But honestly? If this game turns out to be playable, I wouldn't give a fuck in the slightest. I wouldn't care if it was MK vs Disney (in before people rant about how "dark" Disney characters can actually be, lolololo). The idea of this crossover is just bizarre to me still, but I'm over the shock I think, and I just want to get on with it and see how it turns out. It's a stupid idea to begin with, but it's happening and nobody can change it. So now it's time to focus on the positives of (and constructive criticism about) the game rather than whinging about its existance I think. It could be fun in a different way to past MK games. Not necessarily bad, just a different presentation; and it's only for one single game. So I think people should suck it up, be a little more open minded about it, and make the most by enjoying it for what it is rather than bemoaning what it isn't in the presentation department.

As far as the less important things go though, I think the blood effects I've seen look fine enough. And if there's going to be finishing moves, I'm cool with that. But there just has to be some kind of finishing moves. There has to be, I mean, it IS still Mortal Kombat. So if we get finishing moves at least on the level of Marvel Nemesis, I'm satisfied as far as aesthetics go. Story I don't care about, MK's mythology is bullshit anyway. Character selection, well, it's kind of unfortunate I won't get to play as most of my favourite characters, but whatever, I can wait until the next actual MK game, if they return. So I'm not fussed too much about that stuff.

I just want a game that plays well. Please, please give me a game that plays decently. Hopefully the lack of distractions in the form fatalities and other things of that nature coupled with the epic amount of criticism MK has been copping in its own community for shoddy gameplay will cause Midway to sit down and spend the majority of their time tweaking the mechanics of play. Hopefully. I'm not optimistic, but I'm hoping against hope with every available limb crossed. PLEASE Midway, take your fucking gimmick additions and make them WORK. "Klose Kombat"? Fine, just make it functional, for the love of God. If that shit turns out to be a completely worthless gimmick which adds nothing to the game while the rest of the regular play is terrible, I don't even know what I'm going to say, I guess I'll just throw my hands up in frustration and do nothing while the game sells like hotcakes to dipshits who think the game is worth buying because it features something "new."

Sidnote: I wish people were discussing gameplay issues half as much as they were discussing Superman's dress sense. Although I guess MK's fans themselves are another rant for another time. But please, if you're reading this, just force yourself to think up one aspect of gameplay to create a thread about, and then do it. Force the issue with yourself and the rest of the community as much as posible. It might not help, but trying is perferable to not and awareness is still better than ignorance even if nothing changes.

_RaptoraS_Posted: 04/23/2008 03:38 PMStatus ::


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RE: MK vs DCU Ranting Thread!

Most of the fans including me were expecting a Mortal Kombat with the dark MK2 atmosphere, photorealistic graphics, blood, traditional fatalities and stage fatalities, with believable story, Rated M. All these would use the power of PS3 and XBOX360. 2 very powerful consoles. If the new MK had these elements some people would still be bitching because Midway cannot please anyone but most of the people would be pleased. Personally, if I didn't like something I wouldn't be bitching because I would have seen that Boon have just tried.
With this piece of shit he saw me that he and his team were too lazy to create new characters, to program stage fatalities and fatalities and they saw me that they didn't love their game. They didn't make a new game for themselves and for us. Do you remember Need for speed Hot pursuit 2 ? This game rocked. It sold the most NFS copies since that year. They have added a video "making of the game" and the project leader said they created this game to play themselves! My point is that if Boon cared about his franchise which is a legend he wouldn't have sacrified the best elements of the game just to add Superman , Batman and other Superheroes. If he wanted to create a DC game he could have created after MK8 as a non canon story game. Now most of us have to wait another 2 years to play real MK, and we are not even sure that he will not rape this franchise one more time.

BezouPosted: 04/23/2008 04:21 PMStatus ::


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RE: MK vs DCU Ranting Thread!

I like to promote discussion on a variety of subjects. Often I will post things I don't even believe in order to promote this discussion.

Meathook49Posted: 04/23/2008 07:37 PMStatus ::


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RE: MK vs DCU Ranting Thread!

When I first heard about MK vs. DC this is how I felt:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfh4Mhp-a6U&feature=related

Now that I read the details and saw the trailers and interviews, I think this will be a good game.

It's a shame that some people will not buy the game, especially if it is the template for MK9. This game could be good practice and when MK9 comes out, provided it's the same gameplay, those of us who bought MK/DCU will be more advanced than those who shunned the game.

Just like with MK:DA, how it started the fighting styles, then when MK:D came out, I was already good at it because of MK:DA. Same with MK:A.

lobotronionicPosted: 04/23/2008 07:45 PMStatus ::


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im sick of being disapointed by these guys ideas i liked mk alot have fun playing failing franchise vs failing franchise

Chino_ChengPosted: 04/23/2008 08:07 PMStatus ::


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I'm not really expecting much from any future MK games. If i stay pessimistic perhaps i'll be suprised though. Probably not.

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A very measured argument from Garlador in this thread, and I agree with it on many levels. Props.


The thing is; once you get past the shock, whether you're yay or nay, only good gameplay will make this game worth it. Track records and reliance on gimmicks don't bode well for this.

Remaining... cautiously optimistic.

Apocalypse27Posted: 04/23/2008 08:42 PMStatus ::


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RE: MK vs DCU Ranting Thread!

I disagree with those who are completely opposed to the idea of this game.

Though, I agree with those who say that the timing of this crossover game isn't good.

axeman61Posted: 04/23/2008 11:18 PMStatus ::


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The biggest thing I don't like about this merger is that it's almost completely unnecessary. Aside from the interest and sales they might get branching out like this, there's no point to it other than being "edgy."
When I hear people talking about their interest with this game, it's along the lines of "well, if they clean up the gameplay...," or, "if they can make the story good..." or something like that.
But you could say the exact same thing about Gory MK too. Plenty of opportunity to fix things and start over. With this merger, they not only shook the fans who liked their previous style long enough to stick around all these years, but increased the pressure to do well with MK8 about 2 times. If MK8 fails, I could see it being a serious blow to the series.
Now, me personally, I could try an MK without fatalities. Once you've been let down by Armageddon, you have nowhere to go but up. I'm just not liking this current style of Ed Boon doing things just because they're unexpected. That approach brought me Motor Kombat.

Why care about people if they're not bloody and on your carpet right now?
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Dear John,
I, Ed Boon, am afraid I have to leave you, my friend. You see, Midway needs special forces by next month weather we deliver a game you believe in or not ... my dear. Yes they know the game sucks nads, and they know the story's made from the dark side of my ass. But someone has to think of the stock holders, Johnny boy. And of course I will keep the children, because I've got SO much more ass to give.

Whereas your stories were rich, brooding and enveloping ... the kind that people respond to, mine are cool, hip and sensational ... the kind that (probably) sell. The plan was never to build on this, John. I have a vision for this series you couldn't possibly understand. One so grand and epic, it may take me until 2008 to even fathom it ... uh, maybe a little longer actually.
IT'S THAT SPECTACULAR!

But that's all window dressing to the point. The real reason I'm leaving you, John, is that I've met another. Actually it's more like, well, you remember Bill? You know, from Midway's marketing department? Well HE met CHAD in Warner Bros. STUDIOS (I know! can you believe it? ^__^) and ... well there's no easy way to sell this, ol' buddy ol' pal, but I'm now with Detective C... I'm not sure what the C stands for. But he's a DETECTIVE! Come on. He's respectable, fun. Looks great in tights, and lets not forget RICH. And quite frankly I pity him. He's got all this wealth and history, but no one's made any good games for him in recent memory. I'm kinda of like a modern day Anna Nicole Smith that way.
And won't you please think of the children's trust funds, John. This is beyond both of us now. The point is that I've given this a lot of thought, and we've simply lost our novelty and whatnot.

I bid you luck with that Fling Chow, or Poon Tang game or. Whatever.
Goodbye John. And good luck old friend.

Your BFF,
Ed.

P.S. !!! MORTAL KOMBAT !!! (now featuring a 100% more Super-Duper)

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Me speaking now ,
For the record I'm not writing this game off as a terrible yet, but I agree strongly with a lot of the above. And now that denial has become acceptance, there is still a certain level of ridiculousness here that (a.) needs getting OVER and (b.) better be made UP for by solid, fun gameplay with "spectacular" presentation.

But to those worrying about story. The way I look at it is, at least they have actual writers working on the game now. I have more faith in the storytelling this time around (as goofy a premise this may be). Maybe they'll even splurge this time and add some decent cutscenes and endings.

Bottom line is that I've bought every MK fighter on day one at the same bloody store to play as the same yellow ninja for 15 years, and this /DC game will most likely be picked up in a bargain bin ... no matter it's quality.
I realize that this COULD be a great thing for the long run of the MK fighters. But so many of the old-schoolers and hard-cores are already lost after screaming their F.U.s, I'm sure. I'd like to classify myself as both (even screamed a few F.U.s). But there is hope in whatever chunk of my brain MK's completely rotted. And even some odd trust with everybody involved ACCEPT Ed Boon ... that dumb-ass.

Thanks for reading. I realize I being a whiner, but I've liked MK longer than I've liked WOMEN, and I assure you I've done more whining about those.

MistersecondPosted: 04/24/2008 07:51 AMStatus ::


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RE: MK vs DCU Ranting Thread!

I badly know English, but well I know мк.
And at last I together with all fans!
All Greetings!
Mk Vs DC It is experiment, Or ideas of developers have ended?

skillzPosted: 04/24/2008 08:27 AMStatus ::


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Good points Garlador! Glad to see there are fans like you.



EDIT: I see Garlador and many other saying that they are now selling out. But IMO they sold out a long time ago. They sold out when they pumped out MK after MK. They sold out when they decided MK to be a milkcow. They sold out by using another marketing stunt to sell more units, instead of bringing MK to the top and making us proud again. They sold out when the quality of the game didn't really matter. I was online searching for a John Tobias interview. He said it was time to move on...he said he wanted to go INDEPENDANT. I can fully understand....I couldn't take it seeing a precious creation of mine die slowly and being misthreated. I'm going to wait and see how MK vs DC will turn out, but unlike when MKDA came out..I'm not going to buy a next gen console purely for this game. I'm not that of a fan anymore. I haven't been one since a long time.

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RE: MK vs DCU Ranting Thread!

I won't say this is a Horrible Idea or a very Good Idea.
Because it is a Crappy Idea yes...
But it can't be worse the Mortal Kombat Armageddon.
That games Armageddon came very soon.
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So let's just all hope it's better than MK:A
Okay?

As much as I hate the Idea of this Crossover Shit, I am going to give it a Chance...
But if it doesn't give me the awesome feel I had when I played Marvel Vs. Capcom...Then I am taking it back.

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ThePredator151Posted: 04/25/2008 12:26 AMStatus ::


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RE: MK vs DCU Ranting Thread!

I think I'm just gonna pull stuff from other threads, and put it in here...each one seems to be it's own "rant" anyway...

Here's the latest one:

I don't believe in fooling myself into liking//buying something I knew I didn't want in the beginning. Cuz usually, it's a regrettable purchase, regardless of the quality of the item after the fact.

Mk has never had to "convince" me to buy one of their games until about MK...D//MKA-ish. Where I rented those first, and got used copies later somehow....

I've decided that I will be patient with them on this, and try the game out when it comes(as I've done in the past)...but I won't be influenced to "think about it a way", just so I can call myself an MK fan.

I'm already a fan....I just don't wanna buy what they're selling this time, so "I'll pass" until I like what I see from them again.

"Look at it" like a swap meet vendor...there's never any hard feelings about it, and I can always come back to the same vendor whenever I wanna spend money with them again..

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Far as the "answer to MvC"...It's waaay too late for that ploy. Doesn't hold much weight with me anyway, cuz I didn't play those games either for the same reason...=...I like MK until further notice.....and that's that.

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Another good one:

Now, In reference to MK8 and this thread. I totally understand why people//Leo are condemning this game already. Contrary to past occasions, we deserve to complain about this game.

The root of it all, is that it's not what we want to sit through, have to be convinced to buy, or have to consider forgetting about after it's all said and done.

"I//We" didn't buy MKA for them to give us something we don't wanna play with MK8. And then, being fans of the series, have to consider that if we don't buy this one, they won't be able to come with what we wanna play from a later, MK9. Because it's a very real possibility, considering the marketing technique seems to be the same as last time, and the developers and "persons in charge" are the same for the large majority...

That's not how supply and demand works faithfully..It's not how a good manufacturer // client relationship thrives under faithful conditions.

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Alot of people, apparently including Leo here, don't want to have to consider forgetting about MK8's & any salvageable previous story elements, just because they decided to run with a gimmick for MK8. On top of this idea being something that virtually nobody wants to play through for Mk8. And they knew it going in...

Consumers are simple.

"Give me what I want".

Then...

"I can wait for you to make it be good.."

Then...

"If you lie to me, AND sell me a broken product, I'd be a fool to continue to give you my money."

As such, being a fan of a brand can jeopardize that logic and say:

"If I buy this crappy one, you will make the next one good, right? Okay, here's my money."

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So here we are at Mk8, and regardless of being an avid fan of this series, it looks like they're doing it AGAIN.

It looks like, They are yet again, sacrificing fans, for the sake of bringing in fans ( it's a stupid strategy). It looks like, they are using another gimmick to get fans excited again, for another p.o.s. game. AND for the sake of the name of the Game being Mortal Kombat...Which blatantly violates the faith in the name of the brand.

Plainly stated: Traditionally, if you upset your customer base, and give them a product they either don't want, or that is inadequate over and over...you lose your customers base. A large enough amount of fans just have to disagree with the product at one time in that case.

Aheh, and then, with a backdrop of a hint in a promise, "that's not exactly a promise", they lead the fans to believe that the next game will be better somehow.

hm... I wonder what would happen if fans reject the current project?

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Now, before someone jumps the gun, let me take that away from you, and ask myself a question or two:

Q?: Then what am I still doing here? Why do I continue to be a fan of this series?

A: Because I want to be. Because I am eerie, yet still an intrigued fan of the content of this game, AND because there is only one game out there like this one. We'll see what happens after I get my degree though..heheh..

So what do we have in the case of MK vs it's fans?

They're taking advantage of that fact improperly, and for THIS game...especially this game....do not deserve my money. Even though I still stick around, find out what's up with the game, and may even rent, and or buy some used copy of the game later.

1.) I'm not paying them for what I don't want. And I don't care about the DC characters being there. I like DC characters, in fact. But I don't care about the gimmick.

"Pouring syrup on shit and calling it pancakes"....lol Still Shit! The Gimmick // What they're doing I mean.

2. ) I do not want the story they're writing, and I don't want to have to toy with the concept of the thing being cannon or not...A-GAIN. Make a good cannon story, and stop jerking people around already. Especially considering the characters that are involved in this one...I don't want that, cuz it screws up "a" story that was possible had they wrote specifically and exclusively for MK.

They didn't do that, so I don't wanna buy what they are writing. Don't care who the writers are, or how good they are in that case. Cuz I'm not paying them to take me further away from MK. Which is what they are doing.

3. Technically speaking, the game's biggest appeal right now is the gameplay. Looks like they got the animation right this time, so I at least wanna see that...So I'll play it//rent it// or whatever.

But again, how concrete is that for a selling point? How passive is that? Most people aren't looking at the trailer and going: " Wow, look at that gameplay"

Considering the past three games, and last what, 6yrs? It's an aggravated selling point at best, even with these new fighting modes they're talking about.

Which btw, if you're looking at it from an unbiased standpoint either way, "Klose Kombat" looks like the Fight Night games, and this "Falling Kombat" looks like God of Wars falling air battle between Kratos and Icarus.

Put together it looks interesting, but I have no choice NOT to judge it yet, and wait and see what happens. Specifically about the Game-play.

4. Far as the whole T for teen rating thing, it only eliminates the possibility of mature content, that I thought would be a shoe-in for a "Next Gen" Mortal Kombat game. So I'm not as discouraged about that element as I am the other stuff.

However, this also has to do with supply and demand, in it's essence. Because MK's "M" rating is a good chunk of the reason myself, and others buy the game in the first place.

Saying, that if I wanted to play a lesser rated game, with less than mature content, I'd go buy other games. But I don't buy those kinds of games (or many games at all, really)....so it's highly un-likely that I'm going to buy it from MK either. I like the fact that this game was "not for an immature mentality". Adds a prestige

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So anyway, I understand, and I'm upset as well. But that doesn't make me any "less of a fan" just because I'm not going to buy a shitty concept, a gimmick, or potentially good gameplay for better or for worse...MK is not my wife...

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Wu-TangStylePosted: 04/25/2008 07:24 AMStatus ::


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RE: MK vs DCU Ranting Thread!

my only beef with the title is the way that it was announced - what we were led to believe that we would be playing a game that takes place after armageddon and continues the plot (and i seriously hope to god this isn't the direction MK are taking with their titles now). What i personally was expecting was:

Mortal Kombat on Unreal 3 Engine, in an extremely Dark and Gritty, in an MK1/2 Setting. With hardly any returnees - i was ready to accept favourites might not be returning to the series ever again - and that only 8 or so origional Kombatants might be returning to the game.

Ed boon said we were in for a huge suprise - instead i think i nearly had a heart attack from the shock of this game being announced. However now that i have thought about it, and gotten over it, i have now come to terms that just because this game has some queer looking characters from DC, the game itself might not actually be bad itself - and in all honesty it was that video that sold the game to me. It looks great.

So to conclude - my only issue with the game was the way in which it was announced, i am guessing this is the reason for all the hating we are getting on the forums, if this game doesn't sell and do well than it will be because that reason still getting to people.

All i can suggest for next time is for Boon to get straight to the point of what the game will be about (will it be a cross over game? or will it be canon like the other Mortal Kombat games?)

RedenEyesPosted: 04/25/2008 07:36 AMStatus ::


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RE: MK vs DCU Ranting Thread!

Dudes what you think wil be more realistic 1st MK Heroe
SubZero a great fantasy warrior like(Kratos-God of War,Blade,Batman)
or
Liu Kang hmmm Bruce Lee

Now think realistic who actually can defeat a god from this two caracters

Suby
ShyriuPosted: 04/25/2008 12:05 PMStatus ::


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RE: MK vs DCU Ranting Thread!

My only ranting resumes to:
FUCK BOON!

Dude always keeps saying he will make a great game and makes us salivate, but then he doesn't delivers half of what he says.

Remember the pictures of MKDA when "clothes" ripped off? Or MKA would be the "final battle" and would give closure to everything? And even if it didn't, weren't we supossed to get them on the internet? Now, once again, dude doesn't deliver.

Here's a hint Boon, shut up until you actually are certain of what you are saying! You make hype pretty much based on deceving people! That is a bad Boon... bad Boon.

I am awesome.
BezouPosted: 04/25/2008 04:40 PMStatus ::


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RE: MK vs DCU Ranting Thread!

RedenEyes Wrote:
Dudes what you think wil be more realistic 1st MK Heroe

SubZero a great fantasy warrior like(Kratos-God of War,Blade,Batman)

or

Liu Kang hmmm Bruce Lee



Now think realistic who actually can defeat a god from this two caracters


Obviously Liu Kang.

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