Cheap Telekinesis

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03/25/2004 11:11 AM (UTC)

Ermac and Kenshi have the potential lto be the strongest and the cheapest kombatants in Mortal Kombat: Deception. This is due to their telekinesis. In MK:DA Kenshis telekinetic push and toss both pick up and throw the opponent until they cannot move any further away (right across the screen). Ermacs telekinetic abilities have the potential to move a character in much the same way.
With the inclusion of death traps and multi-tiered arenas, a simple simple few telekinetic moves could mean the end of a fight. Whether it be into a death trap or through a wall, railing or floor and onto another level of an arena.
This would give them a great advantage over other combatants, hence making them more powerful. This would also make them some of the cheapest kombatants. I hope this doesnt happen.
Hopefully, the kombatants cannot be put in a death trap or knocked to a new level by the use of a special move.

Check

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•08/28/2004 11:13 AM (UTC) •

another good thread

but somehow, i think there will be some sort of strategic methods against them.

the only one im worried about right now is shujinko, leave him offline!

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•08/28/2004 11:15 AM (UTC) •

Considering how easily blockable Kenshis telekinetic moves were in MKDA, I don't think we have anything to worry about. They were too easy to see coming. And if blocked, they left the user open to punishment. It's a risk the Ermac/Kenshi player will have to take.

These moves would be a problem however at the end of a combo in the sense of using them to trigger deathtraps. Special moves will most likely be used to activate detahtraps. It makes sense that they will be.

Spike81

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•08/28/2004 11:17 AM (UTC) •

You do make a point there. This could make Kenshi and Ermac very strong... but we have already seen others with similar moves; and so far it looks like you can use special moves to knock an opponent into a death trap. Just think of the videos where Kobra uses his teleport move or Nightwolf knocks his opponent into the grinder using his arrows.

But I personally dont mind I like it if you can use special moves to knock someone into a death trap. This increases the strategic level of the fight.

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•08/28/2004 11:40 AM (UTC) •

Check Wrote:
another good thread

but somehow, i think there will be some sort of strategic methods against them.

the only one im worried about right now is shujinko, leave him offline!

thanks man. True Shujinko could freeze you and then use telekinesis on you that would be devastating.

tgrant Wrote:
Considering how easily blockable Kenshis telekinetic moves were in MKDA, I don't think we have anything to worry about. They were too easy to see coming. And if blocked, they left the user open to punishment. It's a risk the Ermac/Kenshi player will have to take.

These moves would be a problem however at the end of a combo in the sense of using them to trigger deathtraps. Special moves will most likely be used to activate detahtraps. It makes sense that they will be.

That is very true about the risk that will have to be taken and difficulty in stoping them in combos. I suppose youd have to use a combo breaker.

spike81 Wrote:
You do make a point there. This could make Kenshi and Ermac very strong... but we have already seen others with similar moves; and so far it looks like you can use special moves to knock an opponent into a death trap. Just think of the videos where Kobra uses his teleport move or Nightwolf knocks his opponent into the grinder using his arrows.

But I personally dont mind I like it if you can use special moves to knock someone into a death trap. This increases the strategic level of the fight.

Thats what the PSW mag I bought today said. It said that they thought that the death traps and multi-tiered levels add some strategy to kombat. They also said that they were wrong in saying that MK has gone soft. They saw all the extra modes and thought it was soft but then they saw E3. It changed their minds.

I also just realised that the lights under the life bar will tell you if you are in the position to be put in a death trap.

To all Ermac and Kenshi fans I like them both and am not trying to bash them.

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•08/28/2004 11:43 AM (UTC) •

HEY ERMAC ISN'T CHEAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he is the best everyone has a special move and if you don't like it then I don't care but don't disgrace the fighters who has many fans like me!!!!
I hope he can push YOU in the deathtrap

and it is TELEKINETIC

FROST4584

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•08/28/2004 01:34 PM (UTC) •

So far the hardest move that I've seen in Deception that will he hard to spot is Kobra's teleport move. That move seems to be lighting fast as well as perfect to a instant death trap getter. I can't wait to play Deception :.D.

scorpionrox

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•08/28/2004 01:41 PM (UTC) •

Yeah no one talks about sub zero who can freeze a guy, push him in the direction of a death trap then simply use a powerful move.

Or scorpion can use a spear, circle around and kick right into it.

Or worst of all, Kobra's LIGHTNING FAST move.

Yet people talk about Ermacs and Kenshis' easy to see-easy to block telekinesis.

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Geez, I've been a member since MKDA was just a pic of Scorpion and Jax looking at each other and I have less than 2,000 visits. I should really log in more...

•08/28/2004 03:26 PM (UTC) •

$UB-Z?R0 Wrote:
and it is TELEKINETIC

Ermac and Kenshi have TELEKINETIC powers, but when they use the powers it's known as TELEKINESIS.

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•08/28/2004 03:48 PM (UTC) •

I also saw in one of the vids Kobra using his teleport punch to knock scropion into the death trap.. It seems to me that it is quite easyactually to knock your opponent into a death trap.. It got me thinking whether people will really fight each other or try to knock each other into death traps.. Then it jus becomes a cheap way to win the battle... I dunno, i've seem moves that are not even tat powerful knock kombatants into the traps and when they are quite sum distance away too!! anyone haf any thoughts on this?

CMETH

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•08/28/2004 09:11 PM (UTC) •

I think a lot of people have moves that they could use to the advantage to set someone up. Sub-Zero can freeze someone and push them a bit and than knock them in with a kick or something. Scorpion can use his harpoon, and than just throw the person into the death trap depending on how the throws work.

But also, all moves can be blocked unless it's in a juggle or something. I say they might have a slight advantage, but not that much more.

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•08/28/2004 10:03 PM (UTC) •

Everyone seems to be missing a key point here and that is that you don't start a round right next to a death trap AND you have 3D movement...just don't go near it...take the fight elsewhere if you don't want to end up in a death trap...also...if these people who use specials to hit others into traps and they are BLOCKED then they are at the mercy themselves of being tossed in. I for one will only allow myself to get near one if I am on the serious losing end and time is running short or I don't think I can make a come back the old fashioned way.

It's not like anyone is forcing you to stand right next to a trap....it takes 2 to tango...

This game is going to be FULL of strategy I LOVE IT!!!

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•08/29/2004 10:12 AM (UTC) •

$UB-Z?R0 Wrote:
HEY ERMAC ISN'T CHEAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he is the best everyone has a special move and if you don't like it then I don't care but don't disgrace the fighters who has many fans like me!!!!
I hope he can push YOU in the deathtrap

and it is TELEKINETIC

I knew Id cop this off at least 1 Ermac fan. Read my last post. Also read DrKorns post. As for you hoping he will push me into a deathtrap. When I get online youll learn how to get your ass whoopt by Nightwolf.

Frost4584 Wrote:
So far the hardest move that I've seen in Deception that will he hard to spot is Kobra's teleport move. That move seems to be lighting fast as well as perfect to a instant death trap getter. I can't wait to play Deception :.D.

That is true it is looking hard to spot but it could also set you up to be thrown into a death trap too.

CMETH Wrote:
I think a lot of people have moves that they could use to the advantage to set someone up. Sub-Zero can freeze someone and push them a bit and than knock them in with a kick or something. Scorpion can use his harpoon, and than just throw the person into the death trap depending on how the throws work.

But also, all moves can be blocked unless it's in a juggle or something. I say they might have a slight advantage, but not that much more.

Thanks for your input CMETH. I can see your view too. I feel Ermac and Kenshi have a bigger advantage than the others except maybe Kobra.

widomaker Wrote:
Everyone seems to be missing a key point here and that is that you don't start a round right next to a death trap AND you have 3D movement...just don't go near it...take the fight elsewhere if you don't want to end up in a death trap...also...if these people who use specials to hit others into traps and they are BLOCKED then they are at the mercy themselves of being tossed in. I for one will only allow myself to get near one if I am on the serious losing end and time is running short or I don't think I can make a come back the old fashioned way.

It's not like anyone is forcing you to stand right next to a trap....it takes 2 to tango...

This game is going to be FULL of strategy I LOVE IT!!!

Good points widomaker. Although some environments are surrounded with a death trap.

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•08/29/2004 10:20 AM (UTC) •

-NIGHTWOLF- Wrote:
$UB-Z?R0 Wrote:
HEY ERMAC ISN'T CHEAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he is the best everyone has a special move and if you don't like it then I don't care but don't disgrace the fighters who has many fans like me!!!!
I hope he can push YOU in the deathtrap

and it is TELEKINETIC
I knew Id cop this off at least 1 Ermac fan. Read my last post. Also read DrKorns post. As for you hoping he will push me into a deathtrap. When I get online youll learn how to get your ass whoopt by Nightwolf.

sry to say but WHEN we play online the match will end before it starts!!!!

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•08/29/2004 10:36 AM (UTC) •

$UB-Z?R0 Wrote:
-NIGHTWOLF- Wrote:
$UB-Z?R0 Wrote:
HEY ERMAC ISN'T CHEAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he is the best everyone has a special move and if you don't like it then I don't care but don't disgrace the fighters who has many fans like me!!!!
I hope he can push YOU in the deathtrap

and it is TELEKINETIC
I knew Id cop this off at least 1 Ermac fan. Read my last post. Also read DrKorns post. As for you hoping he will push me into a deathtrap. When I get online youll learn how to get your ass whoopt by Nightwolf.

sry to say but WHEN we play online the match will end before it starts!!!!

I know you'll run in fear. p.s. your sig is so badass.

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•08/29/2004 12:11 PM (UTC) •

I have to throw up when I see your sigh!!!
that's super cheap!!!!!
what a noob, a Nightwolf fan should have a nightwolf sigh,but ok I don't care I love my sigh.it's one of the best.
I feel sorry for Nightwolf to have such a scum as fan!!!!!

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•08/29/2004 12:23 PM (UTC) •

Yeah my sig is cheap but at least you can tell I made it.lol
I've got a better pic to put there but I'm not doing it yet. Don't throw the word noob around either.

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•08/29/2004 12:27 PM (UTC) •

Guys please stop this. Keep the thread respectable. You've both turned it into a mini flame war.