collecters edition and MKD DVD! (Shao Kahn and Goro)
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posted12/25/2004 08:03 AM (UTC)by
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seanay
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07/26/2004 07:48 AM (UTC)
As these got 25 bios instead of 5 these already had Shao Kahn and Goro on them (Goro bio was on the actual game) and as you know they had new 3D models for them as they routated round when given there bio, So where these taken out or just not had enough time to put them in so the GC version could have them!??
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FROST4584
12/22/2004 03:03 PM (UTC)
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Yeah thats what I am thinking. You see like you said the models are already done for Kahn and Goro. So it might be possible that Gamecube will be sort of like UMK3 when it comes to Smoke. You know in MK3 you had to do the UKK to unlock him , but in UMK he was a reg character on the selection screen. Its funny as hell people are saying there aren't anymore characters to find. unlock in Konquest yet Boon has said it will take time to find everything in Konquest, also he said the majority of the game secrets are in Konquest mode. There isn't anyone that has beaten Konquest mode 100%. So there is a small possibly that things such as the ice stage and or characters might be unlocked including Kahn and Goro.
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seanay
12/22/2004 03:04 PM (UTC)
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i prefer kintaro to Goro! they should have brought him back instead!
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seanay
12/22/2004 10:02 PM (UTC)
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FROST4584 Wrote:
Yeah thats what I am thinking. You see like you said the models are already done for Kahn and Goro. So it might be possible that Gamecube will be sort of like UMK3 when it comes to Smoke. You know in MK3 you had to do the UKK to unlock him , but in UMK he was a reg character on the selection screen. Its funny as hell people are saying there aren't anymore characters to find. unlock in Konquest yet Boon has said it will take time to find everything in Konquest, also he said the majority of the game secrets are in Konquest mode. There isn't anyone that has beaten Konquest mode 100%. So there is a small possibly that things such as the ice stage and or characters might be unlocked including Kahn and Goro.

But we have had hackers and code breakers showing how to play as MKDA characters as well as monster and Onaga don't you think they would have found shao kahn and goro while doin them? plus even boon himself has said there GC exclusives! To complete konquest 100% will take foreva! i don't think it will unlock anything! everything in the krypt has being unlocked and like DA there is nothing more 2 be found!
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FROST4584
12/22/2004 10:30 PM (UTC)
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Still I hear most of the MK: DA characters in Deception don't work. The characters don't have all of there moves or something goes wrong when you do play with them. Overall if you could unlock these fighters code breakres aren't the way to do so. As for Kahn or Goro, the MK team has already had in mind there MK: Deception debut after all why go threw all the trouble of creating highly detailed models? They could very well there in the PS2 and Xbox versions, at the same time could not be.
That was sort of the point of Konquest. Keep players looking for stuff. There are many mysteies or Konquest mode. I am sure not every mission has been found nor as every item found a meaning.Keep in mind after you beat MK: DA 's Konquest 100% you unlock two characters. My hope is the same thing happens or at least you get something for beating Konquest.
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Gillbob316
12/22/2004 10:45 PM (UTC)
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The Kahn and Goro models in the profiles weren't new, they were just the ones from the cinematics and renders in Deadly Alliance. Kahn's model was from when the Deadly Alliance kills him in the intro, and Goro's from alot of the stuff relating to his death, such as Kitana's ending, and many other rendered shots of Kuatan Palace (Since the Generic Shokans looked just like Goro).
They're not freakin' in the PS2 and Xbox versions. That new pictur eof Kahn is an all new model. If you compare it to the one in the profile it looks much different.
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FROST4584
12/22/2004 11:14 PM (UTC)
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As I recall Goro was only mentioned in MK: DA's Konquest,but never appeared as a in game model (besides the Goro model at the Shotakan lave Shrine) and also so was Kahn. With there new models in MK: Deception for me at least questions whether if some how you can use them as characters.
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Gillbob316
12/23/2004 05:18 AM (UTC)
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Yeah, well you -recall- incorrectly.
Turn on the damn game and watch the intro. There's Kahn's model not within about 2 minutes of intro.
As for Goro, you just said yourself, except for in the Kuatan randers. So what, they don't count for some reason? It's a high detail 3D render of a Shokan that looks like Goro. Also the "Goro Playing Drums" secret humor render as well has this same high detail Goro model.
The Kahn and Goro models were left overs from Deadly Alliance art dude. Just because you don't recall it doesn't mean it's not true.
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Fujin1
12/23/2004 06:20 AM (UTC)
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Shao Khan did NOT have a model in the intro, he had an IMAGE in the intro. It was just a picture.
Goro's shrine had some massive undetailed statues in the arena but those weren't suitable to use as GORO.
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Reptile225
12/23/2004 06:52 AM (UTC)
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if that isn the case then
Shang Tsung
Kano
Kung Lao
Shao Kahn
Reptile
Quan Chi
Johnny Cage
Cyrax
Kitana
Goro
Sonya
Jax
May likely be the other added players. they are the other bios who are not playable in the game. Thats 12. if there realy are 14 new playables then i would guess these 12 plus 2 NEW supers in the same sence that kang and raiden were in the first version.
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Wowl(GamerTag)
12/23/2004 05:01 PM (UTC)
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How do you pay as MKDA characters. Although apparently buggy, I would still like to play as them.
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Gillbob316
12/24/2004 12:58 AM (UTC)
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"Shao Khan did NOT have a model in the intro, he had an IMAGE in the intro. It was just a picture.
Goro's shrine had some massive undetailed statues in the arena but those weren't suitable to use as GORO."
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No dumb@$$, and I rarely flame, but i swear to god, you people are driving me toward it.
NOT the still image of him at the beginning. The scene when Shang Tsung, and Quan Chi walk into his throne room and kill him. There it is, right there, in plain sight. Shao Kahn, fully rendered in 3D, moving. He sits up in his chair, then they spring their attack.
Additionaly, I wasn't talking abotu the damn statues in the arena, I'm talking about the 3D rendered shots of Goro and other shokans, such as in Kitana's ending, as well as in the secret koffin image of Goro playing the drums. It's koffin UJ. Go freakin' open it. Now these may be still shots, but they're still rendered 3D images, and rendered 3D images require rendered 3D models.
These are the models used in the profiles on the PS2/Xbox Deception. This is a fact. I have checked it. You have obviously not done the same.
End of freakin' discussion.
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FROST4584
12/24/2004 01:49 AM (UTC)
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I am fairly sure than the Kahn model for MK: DA intro was just for the intro. As well as in game models are sort of different from the in game to FMV counterparts.
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Gillbob316
12/25/2004 04:17 AM (UTC)
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I'm going to school, for 3D animation, right now. This is my field. This is what I'm doing with every free moment of my life between work and sleep.
A 3D computer model is a model just like any other model. It can be bent, it can be changed, and if it's good, it can be moved and posed, as in the case of the fmv models.
It can be placed into a moving film, frame by frame, moved little by little, just like a model made of clay. It can also be put in a single pose for a still picture, just like the 3D renders. It can also be rotated, and seen from all sides, just like the ones in the profiles.
I never said that the Shao Kahn and Goro models in the profiles were in game models, I said the exact opposite. The point I made, was that the models in the profiles, were left over models used in FMVs and Renders from Deadly Alliance.
They are not hidden PS2 or Xbox in game models. They are not the ingame gamecube models (though they may yet be used for even more art) They are merely reworked pieces of production art from Deadly Alliance, that Midway used to make some nice looking profiles.
Open your eyes. Look at the Deadly Alliance FMV Shao Kahn. Look at the profile Shao Kahn. They are the same Shao Kahn. This is not a hidden "Super Unlockable" model.
Now look at the ingame picture of Shao Kahn from the gamecube version. This is a different Shao Kahn. This is a new model.
This is not rocket science.
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FROST4584
12/25/2004 08:03 AM (UTC)
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You can act as rude as you want. I don't care. Kahn in the video bios does have his model. It looks just as good as reg selectable characters. Either way I am done.
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