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posted07/26/2008 06:08 PM (UTC)by
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05/20/2008 10:54 PM (UTC)
Okay so other people have gotten away with making threads for they're favorite characters in MKvsDC, I figure I'll make one for my favorite, MOKAP!!!

I kid.

Ermac

Appearence
Primary: Midway should take this oppurtunity to change Ermac from a ninja to a more mystical sorcerer kind of character. That doesnt mean he should be a lookalike of Shang Tsung, but I do think a Shadow Priest-like appearence would suit him.
Alternate: What would be interesting would for him to have an MK1 look. I know it wasn't too popular for Scorpion to look UMK3ish, I think it would be cool. Also kind of ironic, considering he was rumored to be in MK1 but wasn't.

Fighting Stratgey & Moves
When in comes to Ermac, he's been a more defensive/magic-based character, and with a strong set of special moves. Concerning his actual punches, kicks, and grabs, if they look his Choi Lei Fut style in MKD (but smoother, of course) It would be perfect

Special Moves
Telekinetic Slam: Duh. His signature move, he raises his opponent up and slams them down. Pro Move: After slamming them once, he slams them again.
Soul Throw: This replaces his Hado-Energy, which never really seemed to suit him. In a motion like a softball pitcher, he tosses a single soul out of himself and at the opponent. After hitting or missing, the soul races overhead back to Ermac. Pro Move: The soul comes back, and hit the opponent again.
Telekinetic Blast: Ermac thrusts his hand out and the opponent is blasted away from him. Good to keep the enemy from getting in too close. However, it takes a couple seconds to charge, and this lets the opponent get in close to stop it. Pro Move: after one blast, the opponent is reeled in and blasted again.
Soul Teleport: Ermac dissolves into the thousands of souls that comprise his being, and fly behind the opponent and reappears there. Pro Move: Ermac takes slightly longer to rematieralize, which makes him invunderable to attacks.
Mystic Bomb: Ermac skips the Mystic Float, and simply slams back into the ground.

Story

Ermac should take this oppurtunity to really step out of the shadows, and prove himself as a warrior and leader. To have him leading the good guys is pretty unlikely, but it should be time for him to take center stage.
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Icebaby
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 •07/23/2008 04:16 AM (UTC) •
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Shouldn't this be in the Overall MK Thread?
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 •07/23/2008 04:35 AM (UTC) •
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Icebaby Wrote:
Shouldn't this be in the Overall MK Thread?


No, its Ermac in MKvsDC.
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 •07/23/2008 05:42 AM (UTC) •
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I still don't understand why Shang Tsung can't just walk up to Ermac and go yoink. Tada! a pile of clothes. But anyways, I like the Soul throw move. It'd fit Shang too.
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 •07/23/2008 10:31 AM (UTC) •
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id like Ermac to be in this game very much. i feel like he developed so damn much with Deception, which was only like his 2nd game... i mean Ermac went from some character that i never thought too much about nor used much, but with MKD he became a fav of mine and now i even like him a lot in UMK3. besides him being a fav of mine i just think he would be very kool in this game.
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 •07/23/2008 11:42 AM (UTC) •
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Till now I thing it is very save to say that we will get Kenshi (I hope not ) or Ermac (I hope yes ) since there is no one till now seen in the game using their powers or even similar powers .
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 •07/23/2008 03:09 PM (UTC) •
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the only reason i can see that MK wouldnt put Ermac or Kenshi in the game is if they put Brainiac in the game instead. All 3 characters have Telekinetic powers so Midway would probly only pick one of them. i want all 3 of them in the game but we know thats not gonna happen LOL
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 •07/23/2008 09:01 PM (UTC) •
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I think this belongs in the Iconic characters thread, I know, I've tried this.
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 •07/23/2008 09:34 PM (UTC) •
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Vash_15 Wrote:
I think this belongs in the Iconic characters thread, I know, I've tried this.


Really? Crap.
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 •07/23/2008 10:07 PM (UTC) •
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Kung Lao and Ermac need to be in the game.
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 •07/23/2008 11:33 PM (UTC) •
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ermac is bassicly the new reptile,meanin he is the 3rd most popular ninja these days
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 •07/24/2008 04:06 AM (UTC) •
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Kung Lao and Ermac need to be in the game.


Agreed, those are two of my faves. But with Liu Kang in, Kung Lao's window of oppurtunity is shrinking.

I forgot Fatalities.

Fatalities
Telekinetic Massacre: OK, this one is a no-brainer. But rather than slam them repeatedly in one place, it would be better to pick them up, slam once, pick up again, slam opponent behind him, pick up again, and slam in another direction to the sweet sound of the enemy's neck snapping.

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From Many, One: Ermac splits into the thousands of souls that he is, which each have their own physical body, which then proceed to beat the living sh!t out of ther poor person fighting him.

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Human Ping-Pong: Ermac reels the enemy in with his telekinesis, kicks them in the face, reels them in again, head-butts them, reels them in again, and decks them with a brutal double-hand punch.
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 •07/24/2008 07:07 AM (UTC) •
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I'm going to allow this to stay open, because although it doesn't really fit anywhere, there is some good discussion going on here.
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 •07/24/2008 12:04 PM (UTC) •
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invadera-26 Wrote:
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Kung Lao and Ermac need to be in the game.


Agreed, those are two of my faves. But with Liu Kang in, Kung Lao's window of oppurtunity is shrinking.

I forgot Fatalities.

Fatalities
Telekinetic Massacre: OK, this one is a no-brainer. But rather than slam them repeatedly in one place, it would be better to pick them up, slam once, pick up again, slam opponent behind him, pick up again, and slam in another direction to the sweet sound of the enemy's neck snapping.

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From Many, One: Ermac splits into the thousands of souls that he is, which each have their own physical body, which then proceed to beat the living sh!t out of ther poor person fighting him.

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Human Ping-Pong: Ermac reels the enemy in with his telekinesis, kicks them in the face, reels them in again, head-butts them, reels them in again, and decks them with a brutal double-hand punch.



I know what you mean. I am very depressed about this, I keep thinking that. Also with Scorpion and Subby in. It is less likely that Reptile or Ermac will be in the game.

Since there are only 2 or 3 characters left to announce i bet it will be Raiden and Kano.
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 •07/24/2008 06:05 PM (UTC) •
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dont 4get about this "tobias" ordeal that just appeared on the official game website.... which could mean Noob will be in the game. Just another "window" closing for Ermac. (window was someone else's word from earlier, good word! lol)
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 •07/24/2008 06:39 PM (UTC) •
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judita Wrote:
ermac is bassicly the new reptile,meanin he is the 3rd most popular ninja these days


Yeah, for Ermac fans.
That's about it though.

I'd love to see Ermac in the game.
I don't think Brainiac being in the game would affect it at all.
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 •07/25/2008 09:15 AM (UTC) •
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Ermac is a cool character
I'd love to see Ermac in the game.
but there is not place for him in the new game.
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 •07/25/2008 04:11 PM (UTC) •
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Zentile Wrote:
judita Wrote:
ermac is bassicly the new reptile,meanin he is the 3rd most popular ninja these days


Yeah, for Ermac fans.
That's about it though.

I'd love to see Ermac in the game.
I don't think Brainiac being in the game would affect it at all.


In terms of popularity/importance to the series, it's (in my opinion) Sub > Scorpion > Ermac > Noob > Reptile > Smoke > Rain > Chameleon.

In terms of current storyline, development, etc. it's (in my opinion) Sub > Ermac > Noob > Smoke > Rain > Scorpion > Reptile > Chameleon.

Ermac deserves to be in. Enough of the MK1 bullshit, or rather, Ermac was present in MK1 in a way... but still, Sonya doesn't fit, and honestly I don't feel that Liu Kang does either. I mean, the game isn't canon, so why not throw in characters that have been a bit under the radar? I wouldn't mind seeing guys like Taven, Chameleon, Jade, or Daegon.
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 •07/25/2008 04:14 PM (UTC) •
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HAHAHAHAHAHA Yeah right
In my chain it's
Reptile>Ermac>Scorpion>Sub-Zero>Smoke>Rain>Chameleon>TREMOR>Noob
In reality it's
Scorpion>Sub-Zero>Reptile>Ermac>Noob>Smoke>Rain>Chameleon
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 •07/25/2008 05:30 PM (UTC) •
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Well, considering that only MK1 characters are making it into the game thus far (we'll be lucky if we see Kitana, and unfortunately, Jax seems horribly probable), Ermac isn't absolutely impossible. He certainly has the fanbase, though Noob's is still bigger (although for very shody reasons).

He was rumored in MK1, but I have never seen nor have I encountered anyone (internet or locally) who has observed the Error Macro phenomenon. People have defended it's existence with beads of blood, but there is not one credible account that states Ermac is in MK1. Boon can say what he wants; I need evidence. Hell, people who own the arcade machines cannot get the error to occur.

But who knows. The rumor might be the driving force that pushes him over the roster barrier. As I said above, a significant amount of people want him in.
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 •07/25/2008 05:33 PM (UTC) •
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Ermac should be in this game, the counterpart for GL with green mist powers and just overall.

He's also way more iconic then Kenshi will ever be, so that settles that debate.

And in my Ermac thread over at the overall discussion, I had a similar idea with his teleport concerning his souls that I posted a year ago+ lol but the only way it would work is if his body literally is made up of souls(including his costume) which I don't see working out too well. I had similar concept but due to that reason I don't see that working out.

I actually though would want to see his oldschool UMK3 teleport back where it's fast and should knock you across the screen or something with combo chances after that.

BTW, for his TK slam I have a great idea and also posted this way back where he summons souls out of his hand/green mist and you see them come out of his hand and slam the guy down(similar to Shang's soul animations where you see souls in the soulnado) something like that would be awesome.

His moves should be:

TK slam-pro move perhaps a double slam would be cool

Fireball-Make it the UMK3 one where it's fast and pro move it twice

Teleport punch-UMK3 like where this time though it knocks you across the screen

TK throw-Have it like MKD/MKA but perhaps a little faster with a different animation like have him lift the opponent then turn his body and toss him with the other hand.

TK levitate Ground pound, bring this back but perhaps a little faster.

New Move: TK sweep/leg take down. This move would work similar to Kenshi's TK punch combo move, however this move requires your opponent to block LOW since it's a low attack that will sweep/leg take down your foe from mid screen. You don't have to be close.

Ermac would be so cool in this game, I really hope he makes it. If not in this game, hopefully the follow up game to MK vs. DC.wink
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 •07/25/2008 06:01 PM (UTC) •
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Vash_15 Wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHA Yeah right
In my chain it's
Reptile>Ermac>Scorpion>Sub-Zero>Smoke>Rain>Chameleon>TREMOR>Noob
In reality it's
Scorpion>Sub-Zero>Reptile>Ermac>Noob>Smoke>Rain>Chameleon


If you're going to post your (biased) opinion, don't sound like a douche about it. Allow me to say that as far as storyline progression is concerned, Reptile has been stuck in neutral since the beginning. His story still has gone nowhere from "my homeland is in trouble, so I'll side with whoever says they'll help me and be their bitch"

Smoke has been treading water as well, with no real story in MK2 and the "oh noes I'm a robot" garbage from MK3 on. The fact that you even mentioned Tremor pretty much invalidates your post.
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 •07/25/2008 07:24 PM (UTC) •
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m0s3pH Wrote:

Smoke has been treading water as well, with no real story in MK2 and the "oh noes I'm a robot" garbage from MK3 on.

Well, maybe that claim is a bit hasty. I agree with you on Reptile, but I do believe Smoke has punch behind him.

I mean, he wasn't just turned into a robot. He was robbed of his flesh and free will, and on on top of that, forced to hunt down his close friend.

Furthermore, I think it's at least equally possible as the contrary that the Subzero ending in MK3 is canon. We still have no good explanation as to how Smoke was subdued and put into Kahn's Stronghold, and since it is already factual that Subzero reprogrammed Cyrax and sent him out into the desert, I don't think it's unreasonable to believe Smoke aided him, especially since Subzero probably couldn't manage the technology without his cybernetic buddy.

And remember Ashah's ending? Despite whether it actually happened, the idea that Smoke goes haywire when taken to the netherealm reinforces his moral alignment.

When Smoke was confirmed for MKD, most of us Smoke fans were hoping there would be some closure regarding what became of him and some finality regarding his relationship with Subzero. We wanted Smoke to rise up a bit, but instead we found out he was fucked over harder than ever and again was being raped of his own freedom. Truth be told, I don't think anyone in the entire MK saga has bent over and taken as many poundings as Smoke.

And for an unconscious chap, he has a pretty big enemy list, Noob being at the very top.

All I'm saying is that Smoke has one of the strongest story foundations, especially among the ninjas. He is the tragic victim, and if Noob didn't have the backstory of the original Subzero (that still pisses me off), I would think most rational people would put him beneath Smoke in story and relevance.

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 •07/26/2008 03:08 AM (UTC) •
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Ermac should be in the game, aside from being badass, because he represents the fans.
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 •07/26/2008 04:21 AM (UTC) •
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Ermac really wouldn't be a bad choice, but like Ed said, the game's a what if that would take place between MK2 and MK3. So any new character after 2 isn't going to make it. And saying he was in MK1 wont work, sorry.

Again though, why the hell couldn't Shang just suck him up?! He just souls!
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