The Telekinetic Alliance Would Be Grand.
I Want Ermac To Be Good, But I Think He Will Stand Neutral.

I would like to see Ermac be Kenshi's Mentor. I think it would be cool if they both stuck with each other, helping one another out and such. They could be partners, and perhaps Ermac could help Kenshi find and eliminate Shang Tsung.

Basically i would like to see Ermac be either good or neutral. But he could very well be decieving, and he could even have plans of his own. Theres a chance that he would even want to use Kenshi for his own needs, and decieve him afterwards. I dont find this likely, but you never know, afterall the game is called deception.

Also, i wouldnt mind Ermac having the alignment of "Unknown". He is a enigma to all who come in contact with him afterall, and probably no body knows whos side he's really on, or what his intentions are. Theres alot of possibilities for Ermac, but personally i would like him to be good and stick with Kenshi

TemperaryUserName Wrote: No one's going to know for sure until the game itself confirms it, but let's see what we can infer from the given information. I think it's a safe guess that Kenshi and Ermac's story are going to be interelated in this game, whether they be enemies or allies. We also know that Ermac must have some sort of honor code, since he repaid Kenshi for liberating him. It appears evident that Ermac is either going to be nuetral or good. But still... nobility doesn't necessarily indicate morality. But even though it seems he'll be good, nothing is certain yet. Ermac is the enigma of MK. He could very well be deceiving Kenshi, wish I pray to God isn't the case. I love the idea of a Kenshi/Ermac alliance. Your thoughts?

Well as you said, Kenshi released Ermac from Shao Kahn. So I would believe that he is gonna help Kenshi through honour and join the good side unfortunately, but I really want to see that Telekinetic alliance - it would be awesome.

Only 20 minutes, and already a lot of good points.

Even though I've already stated that I think he'll end up being good, my main reason for believing this is due to one major physical aspect: his eyes. Any anime/gaming fan could probably tell you that empty eyes usually signify hollowness; an abscence of life, purity, and any form of soul. Take a character whom we already know is pure evil: Noob Saibot. His eyes have no features, only an empty white glow. Shinnock, the self-proclaimed ruler of the netherealm shared this trait(although glowing eyes are sometimes meant as a sign of power, such as Raiden. Interpret that as you will). And it would be foolish to exclude Scorpion, who only has Milky white spheres in his sockets.

But Ermac is different... much different. He glowing green eyes at first glance, but look closer. Pupils, Iris, and detailed features are present. Refer to Cervantes sig for referrence. In other pictures, he has no glow at all, but plain human eyes. Also note that while other ninjas usually have the stern, narrow eyebrows, Ermac has the willful, almost hopeful glance on his face. Keep in mind, he's been seen with both stern and willful thisthingisdisableds, so I won't use that as actual evidence. So what does this tell us about Ermac? Well, he's different from the other ninjas, but we can't assume anymore than that.

As you can see, I really like Ermac.

Ermac is definitly on Kenshi's side. The good side. Ermac wouldn't decive Kenshi, it goes against his honor.

Don't you remember that Ermac is the manifestation of a collection of fallen souls? I prefer that Ermac be the "loose cannon" of the MK world. Sometimes he's good (this is when a good warrior gains control of the shell,the shell being the body), sometimes he's evil because the fallen warriors inside the body are always fighting to gain total control of the enigma. He could be a psychotic schizophrenic, and because of his volitile nature no one trusts the one known as Ermac.

TemperaryUserName Wrote: Only 20 minutes, and already a lot of good points. Even though I've already stated that I think he'll end up being good, my main reason for believing this is due to one major physical aspect: his eyes. Any anime/gaming fan could probably tell you that empty eyes usually signify hollowness; an abscence of life, purity, and any form of soul. Take a character whom we already know is pure evil: Noob Saibot. His eyes have no features, only an empty white glow. Shinnock, the self-proclaimed ruler of the netherealm shared this trait(although glowing eyes are sometimes meant as a sign of power, such as Raiden. Interpret that as you will). And it would be foolish to exclude Scorpion, who only has Milky white spheres in his sockets. But Ermac is different... much different. He glowing green eyes at first glance, but look closer. Pupils, Iris, and detailed features are present. Refer to Cervantes sig for referrence. In other pictures, he has no glow at all, but plain human eyes. Also note that while other ninjas usually have the stern, narrow eyebrows, Ermac has the willful, almost hopeful glance on his face. Keep in mind, he's been seen with both stern and willful thisthingisdisableds, so I won't use that as actual evidence. So what does this tell us about Ermac? Well, he's different from the other ninjas, but we can't assume anymore than that. As you can see, I really like Ermac.

I absolutely agree, and actually, i was going to say something very similar. If you look closely at Ermacs eyes, there not actually really glowing. His eyes are pretty much like ours, except his is green rather than white. I think Ermac is one of the most best and unique MK characters ever. Massive potential, i'm very happy hes back.

**Peers into green eyes**

Maybe it's just because I've got a crappy quality picture of him saved, and that I can't find one of Cervantes' posts for some reason, but I can't see any pupils. All I see are two long green slits. He looks threatening. I'll continue to look.

Anyway, I'm thinking of his MKT ending, where it said that he would rule Outworld with his "own brand of oppression". Now I know that endings get retconned all the time, but supposing his didn't (despite not having happened, the events still being a goal for him...you know what I mean), I would characterize his personality as being what the Dungeons and Dragons players would call "Lawful Evil." I think that he could be one of those beings that, despite being malevolent, has a sense of honor. He could have viewed Kenshi's freeing him from Kahn's enslavement as a debt to be repaid, which he did by teaching him how to use his powers to a greater extent. One can be sinister and grateful at the same time.

Anyway, I really like the aforementioned idea about him being a schizophrenic, with the souls battling for control of the body. That seems excellent...

Shadaloo Wrote: **Peers into green eyes** Maybe it's just because I've got a crappy quality picture of him saved, and that I can't find one of Cervantes' posts for some reason, but I can't see any pupils. All I see are two long green slits. He looks threatening. I'll continue to look. Anyway, I'm thinking of his MKT ending, where it said that he would rule Outworld with his "own brand of oppression". Now I know that endings get retconned all the time, but supposing his didn't (despite not having happened, the events still being a goal for him...you know what I mean), I would characterize his personality as being what the Dungeons and Dragons players would call "Lawful Evil." I think that he could be one of those beings that, despite being malevolent, has a sense of honor. He could have viewed Kenshi's freeing him from Kahn's enslavement as a debt to be repaid, which he did by teaching him how to use his powers to a greater extent. One can be sinister and grateful at the same time. Anyway, I really like the aforementioned idea about him being a schizophrenic, with the souls battling for control of the body. That seems excellent...

I have always liked Ermac since he came into being in UMK3, and was one of my fave characters in that game.

I would like to think that he is totally neutral and does not side with either good nor bad. It's whatever comes his way.

I believe that he has a patriotic side to him though and would fight for what he does believe in which may sound a little hypocritical in a way because it means he would have to take a good/evil side at times.

And just because he is in the game, it doesn't particularly mean that he has any reason to go up against the dragon king. His main purpose may be that of only helping Kenshi.

Kenshi may be the one that has some direct relation to defeating the DK, and has asked Ermac for help in doing so.

I dunno, but that's my thoughts...

Thanks, cartmansp!

**peers closer**

Yep, seeing eyes now. Pretty pupils and all. I think they're glowing though, it's not just his eye color...

Sorry, but I still think he looks evil. It's his eyebrows, the way they're slanted down.

And his overall costume doesn't really say much about him either. I get "Assassin" by looking at him, but maybe that's just me.

I don't trust him. He's mean. He wants to come over and drink all of my beer.

**Wraps chains around, and locks fridge**

Shadaloo Wrote: Thanks, cartmansp! **peers closer** Yep, seeing eyes now. Pretty pupils and all. I think they're glowing though, it's not just his eye color... Sorry, but I still think he looks evil. It's his eyebrows, the way they're slanted down. And his overall costume doesn't really say much about him either. I get "Assassin" by looking at him, but maybe that's just me. I don't trust him. He's mean. He wants to come over and drink all of my beer. **Wraps chains around, and locks fridge**

He doesn't look mean in this picture...



...mabye he only looks mean in his alternate costume.

Grandmasterfatalsub0 Wrote: Don't you remember that Ermac is the manifestation of a collection of fallen souls? I prefer that Ermac be the "loose cannon" of the MK world. Sometimes he's good (this is when a good warrior gains control of the shell,the shell being the body), sometimes he's evil because the fallen warriors inside the body are always fighting to gain total control of the enigma. He could be a psychotic schizophrenic, and because of his volitile nature no one trusts the one known as Ermac.

I've got to agree with you, Ermac is a collection of soul that Shao Khan wanted to possess but fails to capture or something like that

ermac has no honor like everyone that played him and did the 70% hp, lift, hp, hp, jk, lift, hp, hp, lp, fireball combo

Grandmasterfatalsub0 Wrote: Don't you remember that Ermac is the manifestation of a collection of fallen souls? I prefer that Ermac be the "loose cannon" of the MK world. Sometimes he's good (this is when a good warrior gains control of the shell,the shell being the body), sometimes he's evil because the fallen warriors inside the body are always fighting to gain total control of the enigma. He could be a psychotic schizophrenic, and because of his volitile nature no one trusts the one known as Ermac.

I would love to see something like that happen. Ermac could constantly be switching sides because of the souls in him fighting to take control over the body. Great idea, and it could make alot of twists and turns in his story. This also could stand big to the whole deception scenerio, and Ermac could become very deceptive because of this.

I think Ermac will be Neutral or Good. The partnership with Kenshi is merely destined to happen. Kenshi freed Ermac from Kahns control and I'm sure Ermac is highly greatful and in debt to Kenshi because of that. He taught him the telekinetic moves as a thnakyou.

Ermac will probably stick around with Kenshi and help his new friend out. Here are the two stories I made for them for MKD.

Ermac:

Now free of Shao Kahn’s control, Ermac is ever greatful to Kenshi for freeing him. As a being of souls, Ermac now feels it is time he departs from the known worlds. But first, he wants every trace of Kahns legacy destroyed. This included all of his minions. Since Kenshi was after Shang, he decided he would join his new friend in the hunt for the sorcerer. However, after finding Kenshi near death, Ermac and the souls within him are angered to an extreme. Their new friend had been hurt. The rage within Ermac from the souls produced a great power surge. Some of the souls flew out of his body and into Kenshis. Their mystical energies restored Kenshi to proper health before returning to Ermac. Ermac vowed to help his friend find Mavado and Shang Tsung. The two warriors set out together to achieve their goals.

Kenshi:

After his battle with Mavado, Kenshi had been left wounded, but not near death. Ermac had found him and restored him back to health. Kenshi was stranded still and had no way of contacting Sonya, Jax or the any other Special Forces member. He needed to contact them, but his first priority now had changed. He still had his own personal vendettas to settle. Firstly, he would have to find Mavado and make him pay with his own life for leaving him near death. And then there was Shang Tsung. Kenshis blade and the souls within it were hungry for revenge.

Their alliance would be deadly in itself. And Ermac is looking extremely powerful. His look says he's here to do something. I just hope whatever it is isn't evil.

Alot of good ideas, And alot of things that i have been pondering. But i'm thinking, Maybe the "Deception" in the game is... There is no deception, They just tricked you into believing that there was. Which would be the ultimate deception `,: )

I don't think i could see someone like Ermac being "Good", Rather more Neutral, But not Evil. And i also like the idea of Master and Apprentice, I think it would work very well in developing Ermac even farther. He is an exquisite character, Like something out of a fantasy novel.

P.S. I always knew his eyes were green! I never knew for sure, But i always drew him with glowing green eyes because everyone always has glowing red, white or blue. Green is so much more serene and unique.

Wow, a lot of content to reply to. I don't even know where to start. First things first, props to CartmanSP for posting the Ermac pic. I wish I could find the other one that doesn't have the green glow in the eyes. It doesn't look as evil, lol.

Although I can see why Ermac might look like an assassin to many, he looks more like an Arabian Knight to me. I know, it's weird, but that's what I think of everytime I see him. Although I won't deny that he has a "stealth" aura to him.

Reguarding the Skitzofrinia idea, I think it could work good, but since I've written so much material over the character Ermac, it's hard to remove the personality I've created him from my mind. In my story, Ermac is very reserved, noble, precise, but most most importantly, has an extremely high level of self-control. Seeing him as unstable just doesn't work in my mind, especially since he looks so clean cut and focused.

Although he's still a fighter in my story, he's depicted as the intelligent independent type. The chapter he's introduced in is titled, "The Wisest of Ninjas." I'm hoping to get all this shit posted a few days after graduation, but we'll see.[/plug]

And to all who it may concern: Ermac would jack your beer in a heartbeat. Take heed.

Ermac may look like a Hero in this game, but I wish he is Neutral or Evil

Chaotic evil or neutral

It seems like Ermac is the MKD character that is getting the most treatment in terms of design and it really shows. He looks incredible. He's definitely one of my favorite MKD characters. Let's hope he isnt a new generation one hit wonder and that he sticks around for future MK's, taking his rightful place with MK legends scorpion and subzero. Ermac has tons of potential to grow and evolve as a character.

TemperaryUserName Wrote: Reguarding the Skitzofrinia idea, I think it could work good, but since I've written so much material over the character Ermac, it's hard to remove the personality I've created him from my mind. In my story, Ermac is very reserved, noble, precise, but most most importantly, has an extremely high level of self-control. Seeing him as unstable just doesn't work in my mind, especially since he looks so clean cut and focused. Although he's still a fighter in my story, he's depicted as the intelligent independent type. The chapter he's introduced in is titled, "The Wisest of Ninjas." I'm hoping to get all this shit posted a few days after graduation, but we'll see.[/plug]

Your idea could work aswell. Maybe it could be said that all the souls Ermac is comprised of are good souls. The souls, with their united wisdom, make Ermac one of the most virtuos and keen warriors in the MK world. Maybe this is why Kenshi takes a liking to the guy. Maybe the souls become a sort of mentor to Kenshi. Take him under their wing. The possibilities truly are endless.

I can't see Ermac being on the side of good it doen't make sense. I'd say he payed his debt to kenshi and has gone his own way. Ermac seems too independant to be on any ones side, he is probably neutral. Evil is still a possibility.

Does he really look like he is in the side of good?

Whatever side his on He looks like he is going to own MKD.