I actually believe this game could break new ground! Heres why...
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I actually believe this game could break new ground! Heres why...
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posted05/12/2008 03:26 PM (UTC)by
When I first heard of the concept "MK vs DC"?! I was rather skeptical on whether or not combining these two franchises could work out. But after viewing the trailer and thinking about it for a few. This game actually has some serious potential. I mean who out there would not love beating the sh** out of robin!? Or being Batman & putting Lui Kang's chicken screaming ass in his place!? I know I'd love too [lol].
(On a serious note now)
I hope they build up this fighting engine from scratch. The current 3d MK games - graphical direction is fine. I actually believe it's a good idea that they are not including fatalities because (In my opinion) Armaggedon's where terrible!! Instead I hope the fighting engine focuses more or so on timing & reaction over the stale dial-a-combo business that has (In my opinion) plagued MK since it's 3rd iteration (Yes! I'm an "oldschool" gamer). It would be nice if they made the game a cross between MK II and thq/aki's finest wrestling game (for reversals & counters especially). Environmental damage during fights would also be welcoming! I could picture Superman / Batman grabbing a foe and ramming his / her head into a stone wall, tree etc.. Multidirectional throwing would also be an added welcome (batman could cast is his batarang around a foe's torso or leg & use the joystick to spin an enemy in circles around the arena / over his head and toss him/her in any direction) , possibly changing the outcome of a fight. Also Health bars "only" are becoming repetitive. Mix things up, throw in a stamina bar to punish mindless button mashers (like the fight night series) reinclude taunts from deadly alliance to regain health / stamina. Use a wrestling game recovery approach for someone who doesn't give up to till the bitter end possibly be able to make a comeback & win (shouldn't be easily done but should be possible). The beauty of this diversion from the regular MK franchise is... They don't have to take the fighting to seriously!! and can finally branch out and try new things! Yes I want to see bruises and cuts on superman's face after I've pummeled him, I also want to see sub-zero's guard go down a little after I knocked the wind out him (like no mercy). The possibilities are endless!
Here's my little wishlist, that is not likely to come true. But I'll share it anyway.
- Team option 2v2, 3v3, maybe more etc... like Mortal Kombat 4 arcade mode, no tagging until a guy is defeated then the next guy jumps in (with online support & offline)
- Last but not least. A 4 player (maybe more) vs all or 2v2 1v3 etc.. team party mode. Fixed camera with zoom only! Similiar to how Fight for NY was done but with Mortal kombat Shaolin Monks game play (multidirectional fighting is a must when fighting 2 or more opponents, so make a lock on a single character a button toggle) this would also have online support as well as offline.
A party mode for 4 or more players would just kick some serious ass! Batman / Robin vs Sub-zero / Scorpion!! That would be just to much fun doing some variation of tag team juggles , throwing one of your enemies into another and killing him! To much fun would be had there and you would give the (In my opinon) the now terrible smash bros a run for its money
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Finally if no team / party mode ideas for multiplayer are to be included and they are taking this game the usual serious 1v1 fighter route only! They should really consider 2d movement with the multidirectional throwing, & round house kicking, etc.. to adjust the camera (like Killer Instinct use to do) because some of us get annoyed by continuous side steppers that keep the camera shifting in a circle (i actually sometimes get dizzy from it!)
Well, to any who read this / reply. I appreciate it! Thx
(On a serious note now)
I hope they build up this fighting engine from scratch. The current 3d MK games - graphical direction is fine. I actually believe it's a good idea that they are not including fatalities because (In my opinion) Armaggedon's where terrible!! Instead I hope the fighting engine focuses more or so on timing & reaction over the stale dial-a-combo business that has (In my opinion) plagued MK since it's 3rd iteration (Yes! I'm an "oldschool" gamer). It would be nice if they made the game a cross between MK II and thq/aki's finest wrestling game (for reversals & counters especially). Environmental damage during fights would also be welcoming! I could picture Superman / Batman grabbing a foe and ramming his / her head into a stone wall, tree etc.. Multidirectional throwing would also be an added welcome (batman could cast is his batarang around a foe's torso or leg & use the joystick to spin an enemy in circles around the arena / over his head and toss him/her in any direction) , possibly changing the outcome of a fight. Also Health bars "only" are becoming repetitive. Mix things up, throw in a stamina bar to punish mindless button mashers (like the fight night series) reinclude taunts from deadly alliance to regain health / stamina. Use a wrestling game recovery approach for someone who doesn't give up to till the bitter end possibly be able to make a comeback & win (shouldn't be easily done but should be possible). The beauty of this diversion from the regular MK franchise is... They don't have to take the fighting to seriously!! and can finally branch out and try new things! Yes I want to see bruises and cuts on superman's face after I've pummeled him, I also want to see sub-zero's guard go down a little after I knocked the wind out him (like no mercy). The possibilities are endless!
Here's my little wishlist, that is not likely to come true. But I'll share it anyway.
- Team option 2v2, 3v3, maybe more etc... like Mortal Kombat 4 arcade mode, no tagging until a guy is defeated then the next guy jumps in (with online support & offline)
- Last but not least. A 4 player (maybe more) vs all or 2v2 1v3 etc.. team party mode. Fixed camera with zoom only! Similiar to how Fight for NY was done but with Mortal kombat Shaolin Monks game play (multidirectional fighting is a must when fighting 2 or more opponents, so make a lock on a single character a button toggle) this would also have online support as well as offline.
A party mode for 4 or more players would just kick some serious ass! Batman / Robin vs Sub-zero / Scorpion!! That would be just to much fun doing some variation of tag team juggles , throwing one of your enemies into another and killing him! To much fun would be had there and you would give the (In my opinon) the now terrible smash bros a run for its money
Finally if no team / party mode ideas for multiplayer are to be included and they are taking this game the usual serious 1v1 fighter route only! They should really consider 2d movement with the multidirectional throwing, & round house kicking, etc.. to adjust the camera (like Killer Instinct use to do) because some of us get annoyed by continuous side steppers that keep the camera shifting in a circle (i actually sometimes get dizzy from it!)
Well, to any who read this / reply. I appreciate it! Thx
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I also like that some people are being positive about the game.. and I think it definately has potential to break new ground! I cant wait to hear : "Batman Wins, Flawless Victory!" Haha
I just wish they would include Human Ninja Smoke *sigh*
In this game or the next
I just wish they would include Human Ninja Smoke *sigh*
In this game or the next
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bose645 Wrote:
Those are some good points you've made Shibata. I almost forgot how obnoxious it can get when two people fighting each other in wrestling games continously block/counter each others strikes to no end. I still think some sort of stamina bar would have a good effect - slow down button mashers & give people a chance to make a recovery once in a while. But as far as the recovery would go.. not sure how they would implement it because many wrestling games are semi-flawed in that department.
Basically, if they just scraped the dial-a-combo and made combo's manuel. I know I'd probably be happy with the outcome. Because ever since MK III came out. Alot of the old school MK I & II lovers pretty much steered away from later iterations of the franchise. In other words.. the franchise gained fans (with the running function & dial-a-combos) but I"m sure lost fans with the transition (which is why I think all newly implemented gameplay elements should have a toggle on/off option!). Also alot of us don't have the time to remember a+b+a+down+forward+b+x etc..
[Off Topic]
After playing all of the MK's (In my opinion) I can safely say MK II was the most superior gameplay wise & MK:DA was probably the best graphically so far. Shaolin Monks was probably the best beat em up game I've ever played of this era (outside of 80's classic 2d beat em ups) Mortal Kombat 4 was also one of my favorites because It had the idea of 3d graphics with fast accurate 2d gameplay & also had all the options I'd want in a mortal kombat (Arcade Team Mode & Tournament options).
So in my eyes.. The perfect MK game would be the lastest 3d graphics, 2d gameplay - like Killer Instinct (no side-stepping) with all of Mortal Kombat 4's gameplay options, Adventure/story mode 1/2 players (online/off) and a 4 player (maybe more) vs party mode - shaolin monks type gameplay (online/off), with ranked/player match options. This (in my opinion) would amount to the best MK ever!
Those are some good points you've made Shibata. I almost forgot how obnoxious it can get when two people fighting each other in wrestling games continously block/counter each others strikes to no end. I still think some sort of stamina bar would have a good effect - slow down button mashers & give people a chance to make a recovery once in a while. But as far as the recovery would go.. not sure how they would implement it because many wrestling games are semi-flawed in that department.
Basically, if they just scraped the dial-a-combo and made combo's manuel. I know I'd probably be happy with the outcome. Because ever since MK III came out. Alot of the old school MK I & II lovers pretty much steered away from later iterations of the franchise. In other words.. the franchise gained fans (with the running function & dial-a-combos) but I"m sure lost fans with the transition (which is why I think all newly implemented gameplay elements should have a toggle on/off option!). Also alot of us don't have the time to remember a+b+a+down+forward+b+x etc..
[Off Topic]
After playing all of the MK's (In my opinion) I can safely say MK II was the most superior gameplay wise & MK:DA was probably the best graphically so far. Shaolin Monks was probably the best beat em up game I've ever played of this era (outside of 80's classic 2d beat em ups) Mortal Kombat 4 was also one of my favorites because It had the idea of 3d graphics with fast accurate 2d gameplay & also had all the options I'd want in a mortal kombat (Arcade Team Mode & Tournament options).
So in my eyes.. The perfect MK game would be the lastest 3d graphics, 2d gameplay - like Killer Instinct (no side-stepping) with all of Mortal Kombat 4's gameplay options, Adventure/story mode 1/2 players (online/off) and a 4 player (maybe more) vs party mode - shaolin monks type gameplay (online/off), with ranked/player match options. This (in my opinion) would amount to the best MK ever!
You're entitled to your personal views on "favorite game" that's cool but factually UMK3 is the most superior MK game gameplay and balance wise out of all of them. It's also played the most competitively, MK2 is after UMK3. Then all the other MK's. Just wanted to say that : )
MK:DA is the most balanced out of the 3D games. Interesting though to see someone who likes MK4 over MK3/UMK3. I enjoy playing all of them
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