I cant believe they are leaving out Doomsday
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posted09/14/2008 09:00 PM (UTC)by
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UltimateRyu
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07/25/2003 04:29 PM (UTC)
Doomsday is the DC equivalent of MK's Goro and Kintaro. If any one DC character fits in this cross-over it's him. I really think we need some type of monstrosity in this game. Neither Shao Kahn or Darkseid fit the bill.
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Chill728
09/13/2008 03:38 PM (UTC)
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I think Doomsday is a great character. But in a game already containing Superman, Captain Marvel, and WW, I think he would be redundant.
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09/13/2008 03:43 PM (UTC)
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They are leaving Doomsday out as a playable character....

...hmm, merged boss.
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Nic-V
09/13/2008 03:49 PM (UTC)
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Chrome Wrote:
...hmm, merged boss.

The merged boss is Dark Khan, dude
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atticus
09/13/2008 03:53 PM (UTC)
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Who says theres only one merged boss? *snicker*
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Nic-V
09/13/2008 04:21 PM (UTC)
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atticus Wrote:
Who says theres only one merged boss? *snicker*

The "the" in "the merged boss" grin
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ArmyofErmac
09/13/2008 05:40 PM (UTC)
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Aside from Death of Superman Doomsday was used very little.
No reason for him to be in this game.
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mad7334
09/13/2008 06:09 PM (UTC)
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Goro/Doomsday combination? Talk about one hell of a powerful character! That would be sick. I just dont get from all the talk and arguements about which character is iconic, how Goro wasnt brought up that much. He is just as Iconic as Shang T. The article on IGN about him was well done. And hey, with all the talk about the merged boss, what about the sub-boss? *Cough* Goro in MK1" *cough lol just a thought (well a couple actually tongue
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VenomMelendez
09/13/2008 06:44 PM (UTC)
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ArmyofErmac Wrote:
Aside from Death of Superman Doomsday was used very little.
No reason for him to be in this game.
Exactly. Doomsday is just a one trick pony and not that good of a character anyway or that interesting.
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Too bad reptile isnt in.....

09/13/2008 06:47 PM (UTC)
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who the fuck is doomsday?
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Godzilla
09/13/2008 11:13 PM (UTC)
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reptileisawsome Wrote:
who the fuck is doomsday?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_(comics)

Doomsday's a relic of the 1990s, generally considered the nadir of comic book writing. He's more of a plot point than a character; they needed someone to off Superman, and despite the more deserving likes of Lex Luthor, Braniac, or Darkseid, they decided to create a hulk ripoff with spikes and have him punch Superman a lot.

Anyways, after the two killed each other and Superman came back, they occasionally reuse Doomsday, with the idiotic power of being able to become invulnerable to whatever killed it earlier. Then they retconned that power out of him. Then he was sent to the end of time. Then he was brought back. Then he was skeletonized. Then he was brought back. Etc...

Basically, he's a personality devoid walking plot device that should've just stayed dead when he was killed in the Death of Superman arc.

I would say he's as much a waste of space as Bane, but at least some writers (Gail Simone) manage to write the steroid addict in a way that makes me dislike him less.
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09/14/2008 12:53 AM (UTC)
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Yo, UltimateRyu, they haven't revealed the sub-boss fighters.I believe that we'll get Goro and Doomsday.I don't believe that the list with the characters that was released was complete.Plus there are secret characters in the game, but they didn't listed them in there.
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Garlador
09/14/2008 01:12 AM (UTC)
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Asesino Wrote:
Yo, UltimateRyu, they haven't revealed the sub-boss fighters.I believe that we'll get Goro and Doomsday.I don't believe that the list with the characters that was released was complete.Plus there are secret characters in the game, but they didn't listed them in there.


Sadly, I think the "Final" part of the "Final Roster" means just that. I heavily doubt there will be any secrets characters. Seriously, when has there been a secret character in a MK game? Not since MK4. And that was over a decade ago.

Maybe we'll get a nice pre-final boss, but maybe not. Even if that were the case, why wouldn't you make Doomsday or Goro playable, like Goro was in the past few games?

I think we just have to suck it up and count our loses.
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09/14/2008 01:15 AM (UTC)
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UltimateRyu Wrote:
Doomsday is the DC equivalent of MK's Goro and Kintaro.

Exactly! Only; Goro, and maybe even Kintaro, are still relevant to the franchise beyond their first major appearance.
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09/14/2008 01:56 AM (UTC)
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Doomsday is great, but he would just wreak havok online if he was in. Balancing issues would be hard with him, I would believe.
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LEGO_Manson
09/14/2008 02:01 AM (UTC)
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The only thing better than Doomsday
is Dr. Doomsday


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09/14/2008 02:01 AM (UTC)
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MINION Wrote:
Doomsday is great, but he would just wreak havok online if he was in. Balancing issues would be hard with him, I would believe.

If he's playable, then he's no worse than one of the Tekken Jacks or any other big, heavy hitting playable character... I really don't understand the persistent confusion between a character and a playable build.
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09/14/2008 02:54 AM (UTC)
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Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
Doomsday is great, but he would just wreak havok online if he was in. Balancing issues would be hard with him, I would believe.

If he's playable, then he's no worse than one of the Tekken Jacks or any other big, heavy hitting playable character... I really don't understand the persistent confusion between a character and a playable build.

Cmon now Mick. You know as well as I do. Midway, is knowing for having flaws in the gameplay. I.E. Infinites, OTG's, etc... Remeber when ED said before MKA's release, they were gonna balance out the bosses? Moloch ended up having an Infinite. Not to mention, bosses weren't phased by Projectiles. Only Ground Pound type moves, shoulder rushes, & Lightning TM's.
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09/14/2008 02:57 AM (UTC)
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MINION Wrote:
Remeber when ED said before MKA's release, they were gonna balance out the bosses? Moloch ended up having an Infinite.

What about Doomsday inherently suggests any of those flaws?
If Doomsday was built to be playable he'd be no different to... Hmm, deja vu...
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09/14/2008 03:00 AM (UTC)
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Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
Remeber when ED said before MKA's release, they were gonna balance out the bosses? Moloch ended up having an Infinite.

What about Doomsday inherently suggests any of those flaws?
If Doomsday was built to be playable he'd be no different to... Hmm, deja vu...

Heh, well if he makes it. And is properly balanced. Have mercy on his 20000+ polygon character model.
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VenomMelendez
09/14/2008 08:18 AM (UTC)
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I respectively disagree on you about Bane Godzilla since Bane has evolved as a character and had depth to begin with and personality unlike Doomsday. Also, he's unique in the fact that he's a match to Batman physically and mentally since Bane is intelligent unlike your usual strong guy.
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09/14/2008 09:19 AM (UTC)
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The comic fans will have to excuse this, but honestly, Doomsday and Darkseid are two of the blandest looking character designs I've ever seen in my life.
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Thrawn
09/14/2008 12:52 PM (UTC)
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I would argue respectfully, Venommelendez, that Doomsday's lack of intelligence and simple childlike nature makes him easily Superman's mental equal. As an unstoppable juggernaut with personal ties to Superman, that makes him a great adversary for Superman and one of the only characters that can physically beat Superman.

As far as lacking personality and being a one trick pony, I could say the same for the incredible hulk except Doomsday has a better design in my opinion. I like the fact that his defining personality trait is being an unstoppable force of nature.

That makes him tailor made for a fighting game and the perfect counter to mk's Goro. I still think it is an incredibly sad missed opportunity for the game.
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queve
09/14/2008 05:23 PM (UTC)
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Well, they are for some reason leaving memorable classics such as Mileena, Johnny Cage, Kung lao, etc....so Im not at all surprised.

Still, it doesnt mean it doesnt suck.
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09/14/2008 09:00 PM (UTC)
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Thrawn Wrote:
I would argue respectfully, Venommelendez, that Doomsday's lack of intelligence and simple childlike nature makes him easily Superman's mental equal. As an unstoppable juggernaut with personal ties to Superman, that makes him a great adversary for Superman and one of the only characters that can physically beat Superman.

As far as lacking personality and being a one trick pony, I could say the same for the incredible hulk except Doomsday has a better design in my opinion. I like the fact that his defining personality trait is being an unstoppable force of nature.

That makes him tailor made for a fighting game and the perfect counter to mk's Goro. I still think it is an incredibly sad missed opportunity for the game.



I most respectfully aswell. I mean i don't know about mental equal since it has been stated that Doomsday doesn't have much in the way of a mind and Superman has a high IQ( not as high as Braniac or Luthor mind you).

The lack of personality has hurt him more creatively which is why his counterpart Bane(who was created to ''break'' the bat) has shown up more after Knightfall because he was able to evolved and he has the rare trait of having Brains and Brawn making him Batman's mental equal but his physical superior. Doomsday doesn't show up much these days and when he does he gets taken out.

As for The Hulk he mostly has Banner keeping him in check and for the most part his intetions are good anyway. He's always been pretty combat smart especially now after Planet Hulk and there are some versions of him that are smart like Merged Hulk and Grey Hulk(aka Joe Fixit).

Just saying, i Personally can think of many other DC villains that i'd prefer over Doomsday. IMO anyway but i can see and respect where you're coming from.
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