IMPORTANT THEORY on PRISON STAGE JAIL CELLS -- please read!!
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posted07/31/2004 08:02 PM (UTC)by
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Alright, after watching the new trailer forever, I found something interesting about the prison stage, at least in terms of characters in the jail cells. Take a look at these pics:


There are 5 steel beams dividing the cells on the right. One can thus infer that there are 4 cells on this side. If we assume the level is symmetrical, there should be four on the other side, for a total of 8 jail cells.


We can see from this picture that the first two cells on the right are occupied by Drahmin and Fujin. We cannot clearly see the other 2. In the left cells, we see stryker in the first cell.


On the first side here, we have Jarek in one of the cells.


An older picture confirms this. However, it also shows Jade in the cell next to Jarek.


On Stryker's side, we can clearly also see Kitana and Reiko.


Pic 6 illustrates the first cell on the other side. The lame gamespot logo is in the way, but from the looks of it, I'd say that's either Kano or Quan Chi. Due to lack of material on the outfit, I'd say Quan (bare white chest, green pants).

Now we know from the new trailer that MKD is almost a second trilogy. My theory is that Boon and company are using the prison stage as a kind of funny joke, with the inmates being the characters that did not make the cut (that are not playable) in MKD. It makes pefect sense; Every observable character in the Prison Level ...

kitana
jarek
stryker
reikeo
drahmin
quan chi

... has NOT yet been confirmed as being playable in MKD (No, the bald guy in the trailer was not Quan, it was Dairou -- look in the MK:DA extras pictures concept sketches). The only real question is why is Jade there since she is confirmed in the new trailer (puzzle kombat select screen)? Well, maybe she isn't in that cell anymore -- after all, it's the only cell we can't actually see in the new trailer. So let me know what you guys think about the Prison being the cast of characters that didn't make the game. I find it hard to believe they are hidden in it, because the polygon count on the inmates seems far too low.

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07/31/2004 10:06 AM (UTC)
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Jade was a popular character as we can see from the posts made here when the Jade/Tanya arguments went on. It's possible they replaced Jade and made her playable, they do have extra time to work on models (as seen by the fact that new models are in the cells) because the engine was mostly made anyway.

I think Vogel said they choose characters for the games in a few ways, popularity being one of the ways. I think, if it ever was Jade in the cell (I still think it looks more like MK4 Tanya but oh well) that they've taken her out of the cell and into the playable cast.
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07/31/2004 11:12 AM (UTC)
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jade could still be in the jail cell w/ jarek..its just a different angle..we cant c who's in the cell next to him..which is jade..
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07/31/2004 01:43 PM (UTC)
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geetothaizzo Wrote:
Alright, after watching the new trailer forever, I found something interesting about the prison stage, at least in terms of characters in the jail cells. Take a look at these pics:



There are 5 steel beams dividing the cells on the right. One can thus infer that there are 4 cells on this side. If we assume the level is symmetrical, there should be four on the other side, for a total of 8 jail cells.



We can see from this picture that the first two cells on the right are occupied by Drahmin and Fujin. We cannot clearly see the other 2. In the left cells, we see stryker in the first cell.



On the first side here, we have Jarek in one of the cells.



An older picture confirms this. However, it also shows Jade in the cell next to Jarek.



On Stryker's side, we can clearly also see Kitana and Reiko.



Pic 6 illustrates the first cell on the other side. The lame gamespot logo is in the way, but from the looks of it, I'd say that's either Kano or Quan Chi. Due to lack of material on the outfit, I'd say Quan (bare white chest, green pants).

Now we know from the new trailer that MKD is almost a second trilogy. My theory is that Boon and company are using the prison stage as a kind of funny joke, with the inmates being the characters that did not make the cut (that are not playable) in MKD. It makes pefect sense; Every observable character in the Prison Level ...

kitana
jarek
stryker
reikeo
drahmin
quan chi

... has NOT yet been confirmed as being playable in MKD (No, the bald guy in the trailer was not Quan, it was Dairou -- look in the MK:DA extras pictures concept sketches). The only real question is why is Jade there since she is confirmed in the new trailer (puzzle kombat select screen)? Well, maybe she isn't in that cell anymore -- after all, it's the only cell we can't actually see in the new trailer. So let me know what you guys think about the Prison being the cast of characters that didn't make the game. I find it hard to believe they are hidden in it, because the polygon count on the inmates seems far too low.


Yo that's some pretty good insight! It's possible that Jade is an unlockable character. Possibly when she's unlocked, she no longer appears in her cell. This could be so for a couple other characters, even though not all of them will be unlockable.

Your observation has raised more questions about characters being playable or unlockable. Huh. Good observation.


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07/31/2004 01:43 PM (UTC)
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what if one of the conquest missions is to break out jade from her cell. it could be a means of unlocking people, no pun intended.
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07/31/2004 01:47 PM (UTC)
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abomb1987 Wrote:
what if one of the conquest missions is to break out jade from her cell. it could be a means of unlocking people, no pun intended.


Didn't Boon say in the video that Conquest takes place before Liu Kang's time? So that would mean that it would be before when this tournament takes place.


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07/31/2004 01:53 PM (UTC)
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The person covered by the Gamespot logo looks like Hsu Hao to me. Looks like he's got pale skin (but not white) and that chest implant thingy.
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07/31/2004 01:58 PM (UTC)
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mayb during the match you can knock your opponent into the cell and the prisoner will fight your opponent (kind of like a death trap)
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07/31/2004 02:02 PM (UTC)
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Maybe I'm missing something here but how do we know it's Jade there? all I see is green boots...
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07/31/2004 03:40 PM (UTC)
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Am I the only one ticked off by this? If the characters in the prison stage are secret characters, that means that our secret characters are:

Jarek: Counterfeit Kano
Fujin: Counterfeit Raiden
Drahmin: Weak character with sad combos in DA
Kitana: Only one that actually makes sense
Reiko: Nonononono! Not another sucky MK4 character!
Stryker: *Dies*
Quan Chi: Thank you.

As you can see, Quan Chi and Kitana are the only ones on the prison stage that deserve to be secret characters. I will be pissed if it turns out everyone on the prison stage is a secret character. What about Kung Lao? Reptile? Or even Rain? Why, oh why did you bring in these black holes of suckiness as secret characters, when there were other characters that deserve them more than these tree stumps.
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07/31/2004 03:44 PM (UTC)
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Quan Chi isn't in the jail cell. Guaranteed. I have NO idea where you got that from. There are only 6 people so far.


Since the quality of the pictures is so low, I'm going to go ahead and say the person with "green boots" is actually Kitana. Kitana is actually wearing blue, but from the poor quality of the picture, they turn out green.
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07/31/2004 03:56 PM (UTC)
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Nice thread. I agree that I have no idea where he got Quan Chi from. But that pic of the green legs that we think is Jade is not low quality at all. That is the highest quality pic in this thread. There is no blue in there at all. That pic is crystal clear. It's Jade.
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07/31/2004 03:58 PM (UTC)
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maby the charicters come at random when you are knocked into that part of the level. NOTICE how the charicters look? they look the same as the ones from konquest and since you can meet up with EVERY charicter in conquest then it makes sence that you can have any character in the cells. all that you do is take the conquest render and put it in the jail cell and boom there you have it.
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07/31/2004 06:08 PM (UTC)
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I think that later on Jade in the jail was replaced by Kitana... and they just choose randomly who goes in cells, like cameos, no real relevance.
I think the gamespot covered person may be MK2 Shang? I think I see some yellow strips... IDK.. it's really hard to see
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07/31/2004 06:18 PM (UTC)
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He did say that.. but you start KONQUEST with Shujinko at the age of 13... and finishes at the age of 60!! 47 years is a long time... and I'm pretty sure that when he reaches 60 the tournment will begin.. that's what I think
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abomb1987 Wrote:
what if one of the conquest missions is to break out jade from her cell. it could be a means of unlocking people, no pun intended.

Didn't Boon say in the video that Conquest takes place before Liu Kang's time? So that would mean that it would be before when this tournament takes place.


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07/31/2004 06:52 PM (UTC)
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Brunão Wrote:
He did say that.. but you start KONQUEST with Shujinko at the age of 13... and finishes at the age of 60!! 47 years is a long time... and I'm pretty sure that when he reaches 60 the tournment will begin.. that's what I think

ghostdragon Wrote:

abomb1987 Wrote:
what if one of the conquest missions is to break out jade from her cell. it could be a means of unlocking people, no pun intended.

Didn't Boon say in the video that Conquest takes place before Liu Kang's time? So that would mean that it would be before when this tournament takes place.


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thank you for saying that, so i did not have to expain what i mean. it true konquest takes place over all the mk's, notice old school reptile
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07/31/2004 07:35 PM (UTC)
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07/31/2004 08:02 PM (UTC)
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NoObSaIbOt777 Wrote:
Am I the only one ticked off by this? If the characters in the prison stage are secret characters, that means that our secret characters are:

Jarek: Counterfeit Kano
Fujin: Counterfeit Raiden
Drahmin: Weak character with sad combos in DA
Kitana: Only one that actually makes sense
Reiko: Nonononono! Not another sucky MK4 character!
Stryker: *Dies*
Quan Chi: Thank you.

As you can see, Quan Chi and Kitana are the only ones on the prison stage that deserve to be secret characters. I will be pissed if it turns out everyone on the prison stage is a secret character. What about Kung Lao? Reptile? Or even Rain? Why, oh why did you bring in these black holes of suckiness as secret characters, when there were other characters that deserve them more than these tree stumps.


Exactly!! I think they are not unlockable just for this reason -- they are not popular (enough). It seems more to me like a neat way of organizing the characters that aren't in the game - putting them behind bars.
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