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posted11/24/2004 01:46 AM (UTC)byAbout Me
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i am kinda dissapointed with this one, no doubt it is a great game but it just got too repetitive, once you get the endings arcade mode is almost useless konquest mode just got sillly and unneccesary, i went to Game Stop to see how much i could get for it if i traded it in, i want to get Metal Gear 3..... i still like the game, just it doesnt seem like MK to me anymore.....
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Deception is a dissapoint with me as well. I like MK: DA far better. For me what really turns me off from Deception is the long lag time after you have after attacks. So if you attack and miss you are pretty much screwed. Also to me Deception isn't that much of a hand to hand based compared to MK: DA. The game has too many special moves per character. When your are playing the AI its all fine, but when you go online a bunch of players mostly do special moves. Also I feel that Deception is the weakest MK ever in terms of overall storyline. The death traps to me are good ideas but when ti comes to the fighting aspect of the game I don't want to lose just because I am on the wrong spot on a map. The invisisable wall in MK: DA are better than Death traps to me. I wish the MK team for MK7 do away with death traps and save those ideas for stage fatalites only. the only new characters that interested me are Ashrah and Kira every other new character to me weren't all interesting. I still play Deception from time to time , but not as near as much as I play MK: DA. Deception is the 1st MK game I really disliked. Still a good game, but didn't satisfy me after playing MK: DA for 2 years+.


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y wud u trade in mortal kombat.....that makes me sad....even if some MK thingy sux, i wud treasure it.....
...but its yur decision
I agree that the extra speical moves has led to less focus on hand to hand, however that was always the case with MK, in MK the speical moves were the defining characteristics of characters in many instances. I think they should have done a little more to make each speical move a little different from others.
I love the death traps, sure they piss me off from time to time, but in a way that's what's great about them, you really do have to be aware at what the hell your doing, or in a move or two you could be toast... I love the idea of deathtraps.
Fatalities, some of them could have been better, at least we got two though. Storyline wise, I don't think there was the least in any mk game, the least would probbly be mk1, but I do wish they would have elaborated more on each characters back story, and no just shujinko's, but I guess, it was a good way to tie things together.
All in all I just think it will help produce a better MK7.
I love the death traps, sure they piss me off from time to time, but in a way that's what's great about them, you really do have to be aware at what the hell your doing, or in a move or two you could be toast... I love the idea of deathtraps.
Fatalities, some of them could have been better, at least we got two though. Storyline wise, I don't think there was the least in any mk game, the least would probbly be mk1, but I do wish they would have elaborated more on each characters back story, and no just shujinko's, but I guess, it was a good way to tie things together.
All in all I just think it will help produce a better MK7.
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My problems with MKD:
-Too many of the same specials moves
-New characters using old characters specials
-attack Recovery too slow
-Konquest is useless, it was only a time killer, i liked the MKDA konquest much more
-Not enough characters to battle on Acarde mode. MKDA had more.
-Wish they would add a survivor mode like the street fighter series.
-Death traps were cool, but too easy to use. Wish they could make it more difficult
-Too many of the same specials moves
-New characters using old characters specials
-attack Recovery too slow
-Konquest is useless, it was only a time killer, i liked the MKDA konquest much more
-Not enough characters to battle on Acarde mode. MKDA had more.
-Wish they would add a survivor mode like the street fighter series.
-Death traps were cool, but too easy to use. Wish they could make it more difficult
Every fighting game after a while becomes boring after you unlocked things or see the ends. But MK has a lot of things to do, even more than other fighting games. Puzzle, Chess, Adventure, Online. So many things that others games do not have.
Some people dont like Konquest mode to unlock characters. To me is the most original thing instead the traditional just end with that character and you get that.
MK Deception is not trying to be like other fighting games. Is not trying to beat Tekken, Soul Calibur, Dead or Alive. You cant compare this games. MK Deception is original, has a self style of game, that others do not have. Tell me what changed in street fighter series after 14 years? Maybe the people wants to unlock a Panda in the Krypt.
MK Forever.
Some people dont like Konquest mode to unlock characters. To me is the most original thing instead the traditional just end with that character and you get that.
MK Deception is not trying to be like other fighting games. Is not trying to beat Tekken, Soul Calibur, Dead or Alive. You cant compare this games. MK Deception is original, has a self style of game, that others do not have. Tell me what changed in street fighter series after 14 years? Maybe the people wants to unlock a Panda in the Krypt.
MK Forever.
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well i agree that moves are way to similar and hand-me-down weapons yadda yadda yadda its all the same. even some characters are starting to mesh together like what is seriously the difference in playing with kenshi or ermac??? special moves are the same and basically the fatalities too except they have different fight styles. I also agree that this way of reusing stuff is unoriginal but that is not to say that MK is not original. It is very different from tekken DOA as SF. I honestly would have taken less characters and better storyline for this MK. I mean everyone wants characters characters characters more characters.....if they keep throwing in characters then there will be crappy storylines because they will spend all the time on character design and then they will fall right in with street figher and their 1 million characters. Maybe there isnt more characters because they gave us puzzle fighter. but then some people would say that puzzle fighter could have supported itself in a seperate game on its own that way they could have included loads of characters. As far as getting bored with MKD i am no where near bored why????IM GONNA TELL EVERYONE WHO IS BORED THE TRUTH SO LISTEN CAREFULLY. most people i would say 8/10 that are bored with this game is on them. i can bet that most people that are bored got the game and bam!!!! immediately popped on the net and printed out fatalities,konquest secrets and everything they could get their hands on to unlock everything the game has to offer. Then when they found out there isnt anything else to expeirence except some character making a hello how you doin in konquest to give them koins they are pissed because there isnt anything else or there aren't enough secrets blah blah blah waaa waa waaa. I had the game a week after it was released and im am still as into it as when i first got it because i still didnt finish konquest....i dont have all the characters yet coz i didnt cheat and find out the exact coordinates blah blah of where they are. im goin through konquest on my own until i am convinced there isnt anything else i can find then i look online to see what i missed that gives me more reason to play it. When i find something interesting i come online to post but i find out that it was discovered practicaly before the game came out lol. when you download everything and get everything within like 2 days then hell yes you will be bored and you deserve it for not playing mk the way it should be played. maybe its me and maybe im old school or maybe its just the way i like to play but for some of the complainers maybe you should give this a try and stop crying because you downloaded everything there is and now your stuck with an unlocked game and no play.


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hmmm i like mkd , thumbs up to the creaters of mk ... i love to play konquest ... i'm happy what they did...
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Every one brought up good point for both sides but i realy don't think The recovery/attack time is enough to take ANYTHING away from the game play. if it wa sa longer delay then yes i would agree. as for Konquest i found this much more enjoyable then MKDA. i love the MK Story more as much as anyone and Srotyline IMO is the most important part of any game but acting it out is just more fun then readin it like u did in MKDA. i agree thow it's all screwed up. i just ignore the fact that shujinko met half the people he did. Also i was never able to finnish konquest in MKDA but i finnished it in MKD in a matter of hours. Both are great games. i perfer MKDA's roster to MKD (and no not just cuase of the lack of reptile)


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I have to dissagree with most of you on this thread about the game being dissapointing and boring. I have one word for this game that makes all games of its nature to last for years of gaming bliss, and that word is online. There are tons of players out there with different strategies who use different characters in different ways. Its fun to out play them and when you face a better player than yourself, its fun to learn the moves that they do and apply their strats to your own. Its just like the arcade experience and that never gets old to me.
About the lag after certain moves, well you can back dash out of almost every basic attack in this game leaving you safe to set up a counter attack. It may seem cheap but hey, it stops the lag on some of the attacks. It makes Ermac a god.
Also MK:DA though a good game is in no way shape or form better than deception. The only thing you liked probably were a few characters that were not included in this game. It sucked when you got caught in a combo with no breakers to save you. Special moves make this game far more interesting, if you don't like special moves then maybey you should not play this game.
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About the lag after certain moves, well you can back dash out of almost every basic attack in this game leaving you safe to set up a counter attack. It may seem cheap but hey, it stops the lag on some of the attacks. It makes Ermac a god.
Also MK:DA though a good game is in no way shape or form better than deception. The only thing you liked probably were a few characters that were not included in this game. It sucked when you got caught in a combo with no breakers to save you. Special moves make this game far more interesting, if you don't like special moves then maybey you should not play this game.
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let me say one thing...MKD surpasses MKDA in every single aspect... I'm loving this game soo much...it is true that I only have it since friday but nonetheless, I don't see myself being tired/bored of this game, it rocks so much...I can see why people like mkda konquest better, it's not my case, but at least in mkda they explained the story. The death traps problem, well I don't know, at least with me, I was never pushed into a death trap when I'm playing the computer, and I only got to push the computer a couple of times...Nonetheless we still have puzzle and chess, I love to play puzzle and chess, they rock, I won't tire at all, besides, I'm finishing konquest and the only character I found was kenshi, I won't look in the guides yet, let me try to discover those thigs by myself, that will make me play the game longer and I won't get bored at all, btw I only finished arcade with 5 characters, but since it was in novice I have to do it all again in easy, lol...fine by me

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Deception starts of great , but to me doesn't go anywhere or do anything real special. Deception Konquest doesn't hardly explain events related the the characters as well as MK: DA did.I've noticed that the MK Decption tried too hard to bring back everything people loved about past MKs. Deception has no live of its own. It feels like Deception was aimed toward the people that like MK2 and MK3. Don't get me wrong those are both great games, but I've been there and played that. To me It should have been like 2-3 stages from past MK games that have made there 3-D debut, but Deception has too many levels from past MKs. MK: DA tons of new never seem before levels and creative stuff . Deception has its fair share of creative levels, but to me not as many as past MKs.Sure there is some cool stuff about Deception , but I loved MK: DA .
When it comes to characters I don't care who is in the game as long as they have some style to them. For me the newest characters like Hotaru, darrius and Kobra just fell flat with me. Their storylines are just to plain. Ashrah is the only new character to me that had something going. Returning characters like Mileena , Jade and a few others are back and to me better than ever, however again Deception slow slow recovery system from attacks makes Deception a non friendly aggressor game. In MK: DA the attack recovery was so fast that it took a player to counter attack at the right second. When it comes to normal old moves like a low or high punch or kick once again you lag big time. Hell you can even look at you fight indicators and see how long the attack takes, which a plenty enough time to counter attack. In MK: DA that was never the case sense the attacks were fast. MK: DA has a balance special moves for each character all no to powerful enough to gain a upper advantage. in Deception special moves do considerable damage. In all that has taken to me the hand the importants and damager and fun or hand- hand kombat.Overall the only things to me that Deception beat MK: DA is only graphics and music. A few more things as some people aboved pointed out Decption is short. How many people do you fight in arcade mode? Like only 7 or 8 . Man that is the lowest in MK history.Just when you are getting into the fighting its near over and you are fighting Noob Smoke then the next thing your on Dragon King. You don't even fight half the roster of 24 characters.
I hope for future MK games(MK7) the MK team leaves out games like puzzle fighter and chess out of the fighting game ( Mortal Kombat 7) and give those MK like "bonus" games and given them there own like "party MK game". Even though I dislike Deception ( its ok for a MK game to me ) I have great feeling about MK7. I think it will be the best ever MK game. I can't wait for it in 2007 or 08
When it comes to characters I don't care who is in the game as long as they have some style to them. For me the newest characters like Hotaru, darrius and Kobra just fell flat with me. Their storylines are just to plain. Ashrah is the only new character to me that had something going. Returning characters like Mileena , Jade and a few others are back and to me better than ever, however again Deception slow slow recovery system from attacks makes Deception a non friendly aggressor game. In MK: DA the attack recovery was so fast that it took a player to counter attack at the right second. When it comes to normal old moves like a low or high punch or kick once again you lag big time. Hell you can even look at you fight indicators and see how long the attack takes, which a plenty enough time to counter attack. In MK: DA that was never the case sense the attacks were fast. MK: DA has a balance special moves for each character all no to powerful enough to gain a upper advantage. in Deception special moves do considerable damage. In all that has taken to me the hand the importants and damager and fun or hand- hand kombat.Overall the only things to me that Deception beat MK: DA is only graphics and music. A few more things as some people aboved pointed out Decption is short. How many people do you fight in arcade mode? Like only 7 or 8 . Man that is the lowest in MK history.Just when you are getting into the fighting its near over and you are fighting Noob Smoke then the next thing your on Dragon King. You don't even fight half the roster of 24 characters.
I hope for future MK games(MK7) the MK team leaves out games like puzzle fighter and chess out of the fighting game ( Mortal Kombat 7) and give those MK like "bonus" games and given them there own like "party MK game". Even though I dislike Deception ( its ok for a MK game to me ) I have great feeling about MK7. I think it will be the best ever MK game. I can't wait for it in 2007 or 08
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MKD is definately superior to MKDA, but I'm definately more disappointed by this one. I think the biggest problem is Konquest. Great concept, but the execution was shite. I'm sure alot of us didn't expect much, but we definately deserved something better than Shujinko's Wacky Koin Round-Up. And the abundance of koins allowed the Krypt to be completed far too quickly. After one pass through Konquest, I had more than enough koins to unlock everything in the Krypt. It took alot more effort in MKDA to get enough koins to unlock the Krypt, thus the game experience was much longer. The Krypt itself wasn't too hot this time out either. Alot more pictures of the team. Way too many koffins filled with koins. Why give me koins in the Krypt when I've got koins falling out of my ass in Konquest? So weak.


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Deception starts of great , but to me doesn't go anywhere or do anything real special. Deception Konquest doesn't hardly explain events related the the characters as well as MK: DA did.I've noticed that the MK Decption tried too hard to bring back everything people loved about past MKs. Deception has no live of its own. It feels like Deception was aimed toward the people that like MK2 and MK3. Don't get me wrong those are both great games, but I've been there and played that. To me It should have been like 2-3 stages from past MK games that have made there 3-D debut, but Deception has too many levels from past MKs. MK: DA tons of new never seem before levels and creative stuff . Deception has its fair share of creative levels, but to me not as many as past MKs.Sure there is some cool stuff about Deception , but I loved MK: DA .
When it comes to characters I don't care who is in the game as long as they have some style to them. For me the newest characters like Hotaru, darrius and Kobra just fell flat with me. Their storylines are just to plain. Ashrah is the only new character to me that had something going. Returning characters like Mileena , Jade and a few others are back and to me better than ever, however again Deception slow slow recovery system from attacks makes Deception a non friendly aggressor game. In MK: DA the attack recovery was so fast that it took a player to counter attack at the right second. When it comes to normal old moves like a low or high punch or kick once again you lag big time. Hell you can even look at you fight indicators and see how long the attack takes, which a plenty enough time to counter attack. In MK: DA that was never the case sense the attacks were fast. MK: DA has a balance special moves for each character all no to powerful enough to gain a upper advantage. in Deception special moves do considerable damage. In all that has taken to me the hand the importants and damager and fun or hand- hand kombat.Overall the only things to me that Deception beat MK: DA is only graphics and music. A few more things as some people aboved pointed out Decption is short. How many people do you fight in arcade mode? Like only 7 or 8 . Man that is the lowest in MK history.Just when you are getting into the fighting its near over and you are fighting Noob Smoke then the next thing your on Dragon King. You don't even fight half the roster of 24 characters.
I hope for future MK games(MK7) the MK team leaves out games like puzzle fighter and chess out of the fighting game ( Mortal Kombat 7) and give those MK like "bonus" games and given them there own like "party MK game". Even though I dislike Deception ( its ok for a MK game to me ) I have great feeling about MK7. I think it will be the best ever MK game. I can't wait for it in 2007 or 08
I see, you are most likely playing this game alone most of the time so that why your opinion is what it is. Trust me, if you play versus mode online you'll see how fun this game is. On MKDA I had only one friend who took the time to learn the game but he has since move away. That reduced the replay value of that game immensely. All of my other friends play Street Fighter or other various Capcom games only. MK was out of the question and MKDA lost my attention. With the online component of MK Deception I can see myself playing this game for months. Deception starts of great , but to me doesn't go anywhere or do anything real special. Deception Konquest doesn't hardly explain events related the the characters as well as MK: DA did.I've noticed that the MK Decption tried too hard to bring back everything people loved about past MKs. Deception has no live of its own. It feels like Deception was aimed toward the people that like MK2 and MK3. Don't get me wrong those are both great games, but I've been there and played that. To me It should have been like 2-3 stages from past MK games that have made there 3-D debut, but Deception has too many levels from past MKs. MK: DA tons of new never seem before levels and creative stuff . Deception has its fair share of creative levels, but to me not as many as past MKs.Sure there is some cool stuff about Deception , but I loved MK: DA .
When it comes to characters I don't care who is in the game as long as they have some style to them. For me the newest characters like Hotaru, darrius and Kobra just fell flat with me. Their storylines are just to plain. Ashrah is the only new character to me that had something going. Returning characters like Mileena , Jade and a few others are back and to me better than ever, however again Deception slow slow recovery system from attacks makes Deception a non friendly aggressor game. In MK: DA the attack recovery was so fast that it took a player to counter attack at the right second. When it comes to normal old moves like a low or high punch or kick once again you lag big time. Hell you can even look at you fight indicators and see how long the attack takes, which a plenty enough time to counter attack. In MK: DA that was never the case sense the attacks were fast. MK: DA has a balance special moves for each character all no to powerful enough to gain a upper advantage. in Deception special moves do considerable damage. In all that has taken to me the hand the importants and damager and fun or hand- hand kombat.Overall the only things to me that Deception beat MK: DA is only graphics and music. A few more things as some people aboved pointed out Decption is short. How many people do you fight in arcade mode? Like only 7 or 8 . Man that is the lowest in MK history.Just when you are getting into the fighting its near over and you are fighting Noob Smoke then the next thing your on Dragon King. You don't even fight half the roster of 24 characters.
I hope for future MK games(MK7) the MK team leaves out games like puzzle fighter and chess out of the fighting game ( Mortal Kombat 7) and give those MK like "bonus" games and given them there own like "party MK game". Even though I dislike Deception ( its ok for a MK game to me ) I have great feeling about MK7. I think it will be the best ever MK game. I can't wait for it in 2007 or 08
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I see, you are most likely playing this game alone most of the time so that why your opinion is what it is. Trust me, if you play versus mode online you'll see how fun this game is. On MKDA I had only one friend who took the time to learn the game but he has since move away. That reduced the replay value of that game immensely. All of my other friends play Street Fighter or other various Capcom games only. MK was out of the question and MKDA lost my attention. With the online component of MK Deception I can see myself playing this game for months.
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You are incorrect,I have Broadband. I have/did play Deception online. I've played Deception online with the combonation of the things I dislike Deception mostly its lag after you attack which gives the other person a big counter attack window, Deception to me didn't last for me online that long. Again alot of people trusted their characters special moves more than the fighting aspect of the game. There is lag ( delay in attacks by a few seconds that cause a double it when it should be only 1 hit. I've played a a total of I think around 188 matches before I stopped playing Deception online. I've won 139 lost 49.I would have to say more than 70% of players kept on doing the same damn thing over and over and over again including special moves,throws and the same combos. Keep in mind that split second lag delay makes the match pretty lame. That really pisses me off thanks to Deception's slow unresponsive controls. Again Deception to me isn't very aggressor friendly. As with all the MK games I love being the agressor Deception doesn't allow me to be one, but MK: DA. I respect your opinion. Even with Decepion IMO slow control with its hard to find someone that doesn't do the same damn thing over and over again. I wanted to play against someone that its good with a character that at least used the character he or she would play as at 100% ie use a good sum of the characters high and low attacks. Sadly on at least PS2/gamespy servers that isn't the case. Replay value means nothing to me if a player does the same thing over and over again. I've had a better time with MK: DA's overall package. At least the AI ( I play MK: DA on MAX) in MK: DA does different attacks and mixes things up. I always mixup my attacks In MK: DA to disallow the same thing over and over again what Deception players do online. Deception to me isn't the worst MK game but doesnt do anything with me even with its better graphics and 2 fatalites per character, death traps. It is no big deal to me since the fighting in the *fighting* game wasn't as fast as good as MK: DA's.I'll stick with (IMO)MK: DA faster ,tighter,better story driven, more hand to hand, based fighting system till MK7 rolls out.
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You are incorrect,I have Broadband. I have/did play Deception online. I've played Deception online with the combonation of the things I dislike Deception mostly its lag after you attack which gives the other person a big counter attack window, Deception to me didn't last for me online that long. Again alot of people trusted their characters special moves more than the fighting aspect of the game. There is lag ( delay in attacks by a few seconds that cause a double it when it should be only 1 hit. I've played a a total of I think around 188 matches before I stopped playing Deception online. I've won 139 lost 49.I would have to say more than 70% of players kept on doing the same damn thing over and over and over again including special moves,throws and the same combos. Keep in mind that split second lag delay makes the match pretty lame. That really pisses me off thanks to Deception's slow unresponsive controls. Again Deception to me isn't very aggressor friendly. As with all the MK games I love being the agressor Deception doesn't allow me to be one, but MK: DA. I respect your opinion. Even with Decepion IMO slow control with its hard to find someone that doesn't do the same damn thing over and over again. I wanted to play against someone that its good with a character that at least used the character he or she would play as at 100% ie use a good sum of the characters high and low attacks. Sadly on at least PS2/gamespy servers that isn't the case. Replay value means nothing to me if a player does the same thing over and over again. I've had a better time with MK: DA's overall package. At least the AI ( I play MK: DA on MAX) in MK: DA does different attacks and mixes things up. I always mixup my attacks In MK: DA to disallow the same thing over and over again what Deception players do online. Deception to me isn't the worst MK game but doesnt do anything with me even with its better graphics and 2 fatalites per character, death traps. It is no big deal to me since the fighting in the *fighting* game wasn't as fast as good as MK: DA's.I'll stick with (IMO)MK: DA faster ,tighter,better story driven, more hand to hand, based fighting system till MK7 rolls out.
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