I have no problem with it.I mostly play the game for it's gameplay and unique characters,NOT for its story.But thats just my opinion.

Also,Liu Kang is one character the ghost and zombie forms are just his different costumes.

couldn't agree with you more... i thing same thing about johnny cage returning to life... i think the only character that has any business coming back to life is scorpion since it's a key part to his story.... i hate that anybody else they kill off eventaully makes some miraculous resurection like johhny did and now liu... it definately takes away from the impact that persons death was supposed to create... and in the world of mk which pits fighters against one another for their realms fighting to the death there seems to be no meaning in death at all... i agree completely you shoudln't ressurect everyone like that... because it makes there death completely meaningnless in the first place....

agreed. still yet it might be cool to be a ghost. i cant wait to see what his ghost form looks like. and are they going to be differnet characters or different costumes? i cant imagine a zombie playing the sameway as a spirit. the spirit should be way better.

swallowknife Wrote: couldn't agree with you more... i thing same thing about johnny cage returning to life... i think the only character that has any business coming back to life is scorpion since it's a key part to his story.... i hate that anybody else they kill off eventaully makes some miraculous resurection like johhny did and now liu... it definately takes away from the impact that persons death was supposed to create... and in the world of mk which pits fighters against one another for their realms fighting to the death there seems to be no meaning in death at all... i agree completely you shoudln't ressurect everyone like that... because it makes there death completely meaningnless in the first place....

Johnny Cage NEVER died.He's been in every MK,hasn't he

who cares its a game

lol

Im going to try and say this the best way possible without turning this into a Religous thread.MK's meaning of death is the same way as my beleifs.I don't beleive in a "Eternal Sleep."I belevie your body is dead but your spirit is still alive in some way.So I think you do comeback but in another world.So Liu Kang could be in Outworld with his body but his mind state is diffrent than his previous life.

thatguy Wrote: who cares its a game

Ok thanks man I forgot that. I printed your reply in several copies and put it everywhere in my house to remember how constructive some people can be.

I don't buy this argument at all. Boon gives us more than we bargained for, and now we're throwing it back at him saying we didn't want it. Can't some people just be glad we got a lot of good characters back and nevermind the ones we don't like? I hate Baraka, but I'm not going to say it was a bad move to bring him back, because it wasn't. Adding a different selection of characters makes the game fresh, and now they can please other aspects of the fanbase.

Killing Lui Kang wasn't a smart move, it was a gimmick. I don't see why a lot of fans should lose there favorite character all for a good twist to the story. It just doesn't make sense. Keep in mind, there are many ways for a good story to have resurrections. I've seen it done many times, and I've done it myself in my own stories. It's the same thing with Sonya. She's in almost every single version of MK, yet fans somehow think it would be horribly wrong to exclude her from MKD. There's absolutely no consideration for the neglected characters and their fanbases.

swallowknife Wrote: couldn't agree with you more... i thing same thing about johnny cage returning to life... i think the only character that has any business coming back to life is scorpion since it's a key part to his story.... i hate that anybody else they kill off eventaully makes some miraculous resurection like johhny did and now liu... it definately takes away from the impact that persons death was supposed to create... and in the world of mk which pits fighters against one another for their realms fighting to the death there seems to be no meaning in death at all... i agree completely you shoudln't ressurect everyone like that... because it makes there death completely meaningnless in the first place....

Exactly. And I agree that it was okay with Scorpion. As long as they dont do this with every characters... if so then they should'nt bother killing characters at all, problem would be solved.

deneb Wrote: thatguy Wrote: who cares its a game Ok thanks man I forgot that. I printed your reply in several copies and put it everywhere in my house to remember how constructive some people can be.

your welcome my friend

listen to thatguy over there and be enlightend

Everyone says how cage came back to life well he wasnt the only one.Baraka was killed off in MK2
Shinnok brung him back to life in Mk Gold.So there
isnt a really big deal they go an come thats why
fiction is so fun.To me the meaning of Death
in Mk is when there is no more MK series.Have a nice day.Long Live Johnny Cage.

TemperaryUserName Wrote: I don't buy this argument at all. Boon gives us more than we bargained for, and now we're throwing it back at him saying we didn't want it. Can't some people just be glad we got a lot of good characters back and nevermind the ones we don't like? I hate Baraka, but I'm not going to say it was a bad move to bring him back, because it wasn't. Adding a different selection of characters makes the game fresh, and now they can please other aspects of the fanbase. Killing Lui Kang wasn't a smart move, it was a gimmick. I don't see why a lot of fans should lose there favorite character all for a good twist to the story. It just doesn't make sense. Keep in mind, there are many ways for a good story to have resurrections. I've seen it done many times, and I've done it myself in my own stories. It's the same thing with Sonya. She's in almost every single version of MK, yet fans somehow think it would be horribly wrong to exclude her from MKD. There's absolutely no consideration for the neglected characters and their fanbases.

True that, but in this case just dont kill characters. Like I said in the original post, It's not that I dont like Liu Kang, not the point really. I guess I'm not for resurections but its just an opinion after all.

luckylooser34 Wrote: Everyone says how cage came back to life well he wasnt the only one.Baraka was killed off in MK2 Shinnok brung him back to life in Mk Gold.So there isnt a really big deal they go an come thats why fiction is so fun.To me the meaning of Death in Mk is when there is no more MK series.Have a nice day.Long Live Johnny Cage.

JOHNNY CAGE NEVER DIED.
Why do people keep saying he did?
He has been in every MK game ever made!

thatguy Wrote: your welcome my friend listen to thatguy over there and be enlightend

will do

if any character thats gets 'killed' is just gonna come back in a future game there really isnt much point in killing them in the first place.it totally undermines the story.and yes i know its just a game but ive always enjoyed following mk's strong storyline and great characters as much as playing the game itself,i believe its one of the things that contributes to mk being IMO a cut above every other fighting game series

cartmansp Wrote: luckylooser34 Wrote: Everyone says how cage came back to life well he wasnt the only one.Baraka was killed off in MK2 Shinnok brung him back to life in Mk Gold.So there isnt a really big deal they go an come thats why fiction is so fun.To me the meaning of Death in Mk is when there is no more MK series.Have a nice day.Long Live Johnny Cage. JOHNNY CAGE NEVER DIED. Why do people keep saying he did? He has been in every MK game ever made!

Actually you are wrong, he did die. He was not in the MK3 roster. He was killed after MK2 you see. He did die before.

MKDA seems to have rewritten the storyline to suggest Cage didn't really die. Lame move, as they could have given him an interesting storyline with the ressurection thing.

I'm OK with a ressurection/rewritten death once in a while. But, I've said before Liu Kang should not have been on the list for a comeback yet. Killing him off was a great move, having the "hero" who'd gotten very stale die shows that NO character is safe. That's how MK should be, death shouldn't just be the fate for nobodies like Jarek and Rain.

Baraka never died.

If they try to undo Johnny Cage's death and say it never happened I am going to lose whatever respect I have left for the character. He died and came back. Some people hate that, some people don't; I didn't care. But to try to undo it and say it was only in his movie is just fucking retarded.

I have nothing against them doing anything with characters since Mortal Kombat is a fantasy story with gods, myths and whatnot, however, I am against cheap resurrections. Scorpion and Sindel are okay because that's their story. Johnny Cage and Mileena were the first and only characters to be confirmed dead and be resurrected, and that could slide. But constantly bringing back confirmed dead characters, whether they're important or not cheapens the idea. Mortal Kombat is supposed to be a life and death battle, no? Yes you can do anything in a fantasy, that doesn't mean you should.
They only, ONLY way I could let Liu Kang's return slide is if he comes back for a REALLY good reason that has consequences and impact on the storyline and it isn't just: Liu Kang's spirit returns to help defend the Earth. If that's what happens, then all we have is yet another reason to hate Liu Kang.

Johnny Cage DID die!! He wasn't in MK3. And he died in the MK2 movie AND game. He was ressurected in MK4 (read the booklet). It makes a LOT of sence!

Did Shinnok bring Mileena back to life?
And can someone tell me how Goro has any connection with Kitana in MK Gold and what happens in the end? (After all, he is the sub-boss in MK4 and MK Gold, so what's the story?)
(Sorry, if it doesn't really fit to the subject...)

MK and the meaning of death, mhhh...
Well, people come and go. That's the way life is. Someday everyone will have to die. So why shouldn't Liu Kang? The bad guys do it (I mean die, if I say "do it" *lol*) aswell.
Killing Liu Kang was just a good idea. Or else the story wouldn't have a good twist. After all, we can't have every MK game with Liu Kang; it would get boring, him being the hero all the time. (I get the feeling that Sub-Zero is sort of taking over his title as the mightiest Earth warrior now. (Or at least it gave all of us that impression in MKDA).
And it wasn*t just the twist, that Liu Kang just died, NO! Shao Khan died aswell! 2 highly important opponents (!) .
(Why was Shao Khan actually allive? Didn't he die after the MK3 game?)

XiahouDun84 Wrote: Baraka never died. If they try to undo Johnny Cage's death and say it never happened I am going to lose whatever respect I have left for the character. He died and came back. Some people hate that, some people don't; I didn't care. But to try to undo it and say it was only in his movie is just fucking retarded. I have nothing against them doing anything with characters since Mortal Kombat is a fantasy story with gods, myths and whatnot, however, I am against cheap resurrections. Scorpion and Sindel are okay because that's their story. Johnny Cage and Mileena were the first and only characters to be confirmed dead and be resurrected, and that could slide. But constantly bringing back confirmed dead characters, whether they're important or not cheapens the idea. Mortal Kombat is supposed to be a life and death battle, no? Yes you can do anything in a fantasy, that doesn't mean you should. They only, ONLY way I could let Liu Kang's return slide is if he comes back for a REALLY good reason that has consequences and impact on the storyline and it isn't just: Liu Kang's spirit returns to help defend the Earth. If that's what happens, then all we have is yet another reason to hate Liu Kang.

GrandMaster_Sub-Zero Wrote: Did Shinnok bring Mileena back to life? And can someone tell me how Goro has any connection with Kitana in MK Gold and what happens in the end? (After all, he is the sub-boss in MK4 and MK Gold, so what's the story?) (Sorry, if it doesn't really fit to the subject...)

We found out in MK Trilogy that it was really Shinnok who brought Mileena back to life. He sent her back to spy on Shao Kahn like Noob Saibot.
In Kung Lao's MK Gold ending Kitana convinces Goro to sign a treaty with the Centaurs. Goro agrees saying he wants to bring an end to the wars.

I don't think Cage's MKDA ending was a way of rewriting his story, saying he never died - I just interpreted it as a way of poking fun at how his story has been retconned so much. I think the ending was funny, but I agree making his death non-canon would be pretty dumb.