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posted09/09/2004 08:53 PM (UTC)by
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I apologise if this has been discussed before but I can't recall it being discussed in depth from my experience here so here's my theory.
I know many of you probably think Shujinko is the Champion. I don't believe so. Certainly he is a big contender for the title but I think the actual Mortal Kombat Champion...the Champion of the Elder Gods is Scorpion. Here's why:
You'll notice in his bio it mentions that rather than getting ripped apart in the soulnado he is actually teleported and comes face to face with the elder gods. A big factor, and one that Ed Boon wouldn't just make up for the hell of it. Everyone knows Scorpion is Ed's favourite character. There are big things planned for him I think. The back of the game cover states this: "An ancient evil has returned from beyond death and threatens the very existence of the realms. (now here's the clincher) Will the Champion of the Elder Gods have the power to defeat this threat borne of deception?" plus you can add the big render of him that takes up practically half the page. Not to mention the option to buy a version of the cover with everyone's favourite spear slinger on the front.
Put these together and I reckon you have some pretty strong evidence that the new Champion of MK is Scorpion. After the death of Liu Kang everybody had put Scorpion and Sub-Zero in front as the successors to Earth's greatest champion. (Kung Lao coming a close third) But with Sub-Zero leading the Lin Kuei and becoming so powerful he had his own path to take. Scorpion is the logical choice. And you can't tell me you don't think Scorpion as the champion of the elder gods isn't a cool turn for MK. A vengeful spectre as the main character? What could be cooler. You can see that since, oh, round about MK4 his role has become greater and greater. He's had a purpose. Before that he was just a wild card. His biggest thing was his rivalry with Sub-Zero.
Make no mistake this new era of Mortal Komabt is the era of the Scorpion.
At least that's my opinion anyway. What do you think?
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scorpion555
09/08/2004 12:04 PM (UTC)
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Sounds all good and no one would want scorpion to be the champ more than me but i dont think so. The whole mortal kombat thing about humans against odds, that kinda gets screwed up. Not to mention scorpion aint exactly caring about anyone really. Still after Quan chi id say, which would be stupid if Quan wasnt in deception. So they have to give him a new reason to be in Deception since his been after is families murderer ever since mk1. Id guess theres more chance for Kung lao if his in, or even kabal or Kobra, but it seems most of the dragon king/deception storyline is based around Shujinko. JUST NOT BO RAI CHO!!
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09/08/2004 12:14 PM (UTC)
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scorpion555 Wrote:
Sounds all good and no one would want scorpion to be the champ more than me but i dont think so. The whole mortal kombat thing about humans against odds, that kinda gets screwed up. Not to mention scorpion aint exactly caring about anyone really. Still after Quan chi id say, which would be stupid if Quan wasnt in deception. So they have to give him a new reason to be in Deception since his been after is families murderer ever since mk1. Id guess theres more chance for Kung lao if his in, or even kabal or Kobra, but it seems most of the dragon king/deception storyline is based around Shujinko. JUST NOT BO RAI CHO!!

Fair enough. I spose the way it's going Shujinko is going to be "the man" but if that's the case it'll be interesting to where Ed is moving Scorpion's story. I mean he's met with the Elder Gods. No other MK character other than Raiden has ever seriously done that as a major part of their storyline.
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THA_SHIZNIT
09/08/2004 12:17 PM (UTC)
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I agree.
Makes much sense.
Thanks for reading between the lines and pointing it out.
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scorpion555
09/08/2004 12:19 PM (UTC)
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yeah like Boon said he wouldnt make a mk game without sub zero and scorpion. So i guess the meeting with the elder gods has to serve a purpose to keep scorpion in even after he kills Quan chi. sorry thats if he ever kills quan chi. Given Shang tsung has been around since mk1 and hasnt died yet.
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09/08/2004 12:21 PM (UTC)
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Some well thought out ideas guys. It will be Shujinko I think. Scorpion is like the elder gods back up plan. If Shujinko fails.
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scorpion555
09/08/2004 12:25 PM (UTC)
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Lets just hope Shujinko fails. And Bo rai cho explodes.
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krackerjack
09/08/2004 12:34 PM (UTC)
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"The back of the game cover states this: "An ancient evil has returned from beyond death and threatens the very existence of the realms. (now here's the clincher) Will the Champion of the Elder Gods have the power to defeat this threat borne of deception?"
Shujinko was also sent by the gods, so that one could go either way. Perhaps Liu Kang was sent back by the elder gods? Hell, it might even be raiden for all we know.
"plus you can add the big render of him that takes up practically half the page. Not to mention the option to buy a version of the cover with everyone's favourite spear slinger on the front."
In MK:DA scorpion was pretty much the games main advertising tool, and he wasn't the champion. Previous MK arcades have had huge pictures of Raiden on the side of them, and he wasn't the champion. I really don't see how Scorpion on the cover is proof at all (it dosen't even cover an eighth of the page by the way).
"Put these together and I reckon you have some pretty strong evidence that the new Champion of MK is Scorpion."
Not really, although i guess it could happen. It would sort of make sense, but i still highly doubt it. It would make much more sense for Liu Kang to become champion again, but failing that, there's still a few characters ahead of Scorpion.
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THA_SHIZNIT
09/08/2004 12:40 PM (UTC)
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Has Shujinko died and returned from beyond death?
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krackerjack
09/08/2004 12:42 PM (UTC)
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Multiple times.
No but seriously, read it again, that passage is reffering to Onaga.
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THA_SHIZNIT
09/08/2004 12:44 PM (UTC)
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Also, when someone says "an ancient EVIL" with Scorpion's picture next to the words, my mind instantly thinks of Scorpion, being that he is ancient and evil and has been around for a while.
Raiden, Liu Kang, and Shujinko aren't evil, are they?.
Just my thoughts tho...
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krackerjack
09/08/2004 12:46 PM (UTC)
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Again, read though it, it's referring to the Dragon King.
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09/08/2004 12:47 PM (UTC)
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Actually yeah Krackerjack you make good points. I did kinda talk it up a bit but I still think it shows that there is a good chance that Scorpion, even if he is not the Champion, is going to be more significant to the outcome than Shujinko. If it were the other way round we'd be seeing more of Shujinko over the past few weeks wouldn't we?
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THA_SHIZNIT
09/08/2004 12:47 PM (UTC)
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krackerjack Wrote:
Multiple times.
No but seriously, read it again, that passage is reffering to Onaga.

I'll agree with that one, also.
I'm sitting on the fence with this one.
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krackerjack
09/08/2004 12:50 PM (UTC)
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TylerDurden Wrote:
Actually yeah Krackerjack you make good points. I did kinda talk it up a bit but I still think it shows that there is a good chance that Scorpion, even if he is not the Champion, is going to be more significant to the outcome than Shujinko. If it were the other way round we'd be seeing more of Shujinko over the past few weeks wouldn't we?

I'll agree there, i too think Scorpion is going to a more significant role within the next game or two.
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SubScorpTile
09/08/2004 01:40 PM (UTC)
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Scorpion isn't going be the champion.
but both Scorpion and Sub-Zero need to have BIGGER roles, and both get in the MAIN storyline.
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Songokou_SSJ3
09/08/2004 02:21 PM (UTC)
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The question is easy:
Why in Scorpion bio we see - Rivals : Shoujinko and Sub-Zero, and Shoujinko (in the intro) was the one who released the Dragon King.
But maybe the champion will be Reptile... after his devolution he evolved again (in prison stage he`s waring his mk2 suit) man... i won`t be suprised if the champion will be Goro gringringrin
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[Shaokahn]
09/08/2004 03:47 PM (UTC)
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Ok Songokou_SSJ3 LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!That Sig had me bustin up nicely.Great sig.
IMO theres not gonna be a spectre champion(scorpion),or a zombie/spirit champion(liu kang) etc etc.That is just not gonna happen.
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Bigmamanasty
09/08/2004 05:49 PM (UTC)
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It's fun to speculate, I guess. No one, not even Boon knows who will win this game. The endings are never what happens entirely.
Mokap & Kintaro are going to win this one, because the box says "Online play includes Puzzle & Chess Kombat." That's proof.
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*X*BloodyEyes
09/08/2004 06:13 PM (UTC)
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LMAO
Bigmamanasty Wrote:
It's fun to speculate, I guess. No one, not even Boon knows who will win this game. The endings are never what happens entirely.
Mokap & Kintaro are going to win this one, because the box says "Online play includes Puzzle & Chess Kombat." That's proof.

but I really hope that THIS IS THE START OF SCORPION's ERA, maybe a mythologies, but in 3d and a good one made by the same people who made psi ops, but with my man...that would rock
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queve
09/08/2004 06:57 PM (UTC)
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TylerDurden Wrote:
I apologise if this has been discussed before but I can't recall it being discussed in depth from my experience here so here's my theory.
I know many of you probably think Shujinko is the Champion. I don't believe so. Certainly he is a big contender for the title but I think the actual Mortal Kombat Champion...the Champion of the Elder Gods is Scorpion. Here's why:
You'll notice in his bio it mentions that rather than getting ripped apart in the soulnado he is actually teleported and comes face to face with the elder gods. A big factor, and one that Ed Boon wouldn't just make up for the hell of it. Everyone knows Scorpion is Ed's favourite character. There are big things planned for him I think. The back of the game cover states this: "An ancient evil has returned from beyond death and threatens the very existence of the realms. (now here's the clincher) Will the Champion of the Elder Gods have the power to defeat this threat borne of deception?" plus you can add the big render of him that takes up practically half the page. Not to mention the option to buy a version of the cover with everyone's favourite spear slinger on the front.
Put these together and I reckon you have some pretty strong evidence that the new Champion of MK is Scorpion. After the death of Liu Kang everybody had put Scorpion and Sub-Zero in front as the successors to Earth's greatest champion. (Kung Lao coming a close third) But with Sub-Zero leading the Lin Kuei and becoming so powerful he had his own path to take. Scorpion is the logical choice. And you can't tell me you don't think Scorpion as the champion of the elder gods isn't a cool turn for MK. A vengeful spectre as the main character? What could be cooler. You can see that since, oh, round about MK4 his role has become greater and greater. He's had a purpose. Before that he was just a wild card. His biggest thing was his rivalry with Sub-Zero.
Make no mistake this new era of Mortal Komabt is the era of the Scorpion.
At least that's my opinion anyway. What do you think?

This is a good thread. Your opinions are valid, but I have to disagree.
1o Like someone stated before, Scorpions image in the cover means nothing. Johnny Cage was the main figure in the Arcade machine of Mk1, Rayden in Mk2, Sindel and Kahn in Mk3, Quan Chi in Mk4.
Also, one of the Mk4 covers had Rayden VS Tanya with a big Goro image. Others had the entire team and Goro.
2o Sorry, but after the “death” of Liu Kang, most people thought (and still think) that KUNG LAO was going to be the next champ. Everything pointed/points to him, he was the number 1 option in everyone’s mind. Scorpion was no where in the list of possible champions.
Sub-Zero was actually next to Kung Lao, and even Kenshi was considered as a champ. Scorpion stood far behind, and I will tell you why he is not the most logical choice later.
3o Being a vengeful specter is cool, but its not the reason why he should be the champion. There are many other awesome stories such as a deadly Mutant (Baraka), a wicked gothic queen witch (Sindel), a terrible clone of darkness (Mileena), a powerful sorcerer (Shang Tsung/Quan CHi), etc. Their stories are as good and better, but that doesn’t make any of them the next champ.
4o I’m sorry but Scorpions story or role hasn’t really evolve. He stays with the same objective: Vengeance
First he was after Sub-Zero, in Mk1, because he wanted to avenge his death. He won and went back to hell.
Then In mk2, he thought Sub-Zero was still alive, so he got out of hell, discovered the truth and went back to hell again.
In MkU he once again escaped hell, but he was just a wild card. He goes back to hell again.
In Mk4 we know he escapes hell in order to avenge the death of his family, and the killer happens to be Sub-Zero. Once again he is after Sub-Zero, but at the end, he discovers the true killer is Quan Chi, and goes back to hell.
In MKDA he escapes hell once again, faces Quan Chi and dies .again, returns very soon to avenge his family, faces Moloch and Drahmin, and looses.
You see? I am not trying to bash your opinions or thoughts about Scorpion, but he doesn’t really fit the role of “next gen hero”.
I am no fan of Kung Lao, nor do I want him to be the next hero because he already has a resemblance of Liu Kang, but I think its obvious he fits that role better then any other character.
Sub-Zero .no fan of him neither, and before I would had said he could never be the hero for the same reason as Scorpion, but now, with his completely evolved story, I think he can.
The role of hero is not for Scorpion, he has done much as an individual character, but as for the story of mk, he has done nothing.
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*X*BloodyEyes
09/08/2004 07:01 PM (UTC)
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no scorpion = no mk
ditto
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09/08/2004 07:06 PM (UTC)
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Good thread, man.
However I don't believe it will be Scorpion at all. He has his uses elsewhere and being MK champion gives him a little too much to do. It may very well be Shujinko, you could very well be right. We'll just have to wait and see. MKD has thrown so many possibilities and theories at us, it's hard to know what will happen at all.
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Zombie_Liu_rules
09/08/2004 07:57 PM (UTC)
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Hm, Shujinko is the voice talking in the intro. He says he is the only one that can stop the Dragon King. See, being the Champion of the Elder Gods can be compared to being The One in the Matrix Trilogy.
***SPOILER***
There have been lots of The Ones, and lots of Champions too. Shujinko was just one of them, exactly like Kung Lao and Liu Kang. I doubt it will be Scorpion, since Liu Kang wouldn't just be resurrecting without any reason??
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scorpion555
09/08/2004 09:09 PM (UTC)
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True that Liu Kang must have been resurrected for a reason, but do we know if his good or bad now? it is possible that Onaga did it and is using liu kang as a bodyguard or that raiden/elder gods did to Kombat Onaga. i dont think we know enough about Liu kang this time to be sure of anything.
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