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Noob Smoke Ending - Non Spoiler*
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posted10/09/2004 11:09 PM (UTC)by
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TheSoulOfErmac
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I havent beat the game yet with these two so please do not tell me what happens, but I was wondering if they come with two endings depending on who you use to defeat the Onaga? Or do they just show both, or what? Thanks in advance.
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 •10/09/2004 03:36 PM (UTC) •
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One ending and everyone knew what it was the first day the forums opened back up. It is so awesome.
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Darksith
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 •10/09/2004 03:48 PM (UTC) •
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Maybe not that great but...surprising.
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Their are three erorrs in this sentence.

 •10/09/2004 03:48 PM (UTC) •
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Yeah, I loved that ending. So cool and surprised me because i expected a ok story but WOW took my by surprise...
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CRUTALMCV
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 •10/09/2004 03:52 PM (UTC) •
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its a good ending but it would have been better if it was animated
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]2eiko
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 •10/09/2004 03:55 PM (UTC) •
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Does anyone have a link to their ending?grin
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 •10/09/2004 03:59 PM (UTC) •
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NOOB SMOKE ENDING
"With Smoke as his template, Noob Saibot planned to return to the netherealm and use Smoke�s nanotechnology to create an army of Cyborg-Demons. He was unaware that they were being followed by someone Noob had not seen since before he became a wraith. Smoke instantly recognized their visitor, he was an echo of their past. He was Sub-Zero, Noob Saibot�s Brother.
Noob Saibot was surprised to see how much stronger his brother had become. If he were still Lin Kuei, still human, he would probably have shown some degree of pride. But as Raiden had revealed during the ordeal with Shinnok�s amulet, his soul had become tainted when he died at the hands of Scorpion.
Noob Saibot, the original Sub-Zero, had descended into the netherealm free of compassion. He ordered Smoke to assist him in slaying his brother, his first act as ruler of the Netherealm"
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 •10/09/2004 04:01 PM (UTC) •
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 •10/09/2004 05:42 PM (UTC) •
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It's a cool ending, but it also contridicts what we knew about Smoke. We knew that, atleast in MK3 Smoke had regained his will and therefore broke free from the Lin Kuie and helped Sub-Zero defeat Cyrax and Sektor. But in Noob-Smoke's bio it states that he was deactivated in Shao Khan's dungeon as a trophy from his invasion of Earthrealm. Noob then reactivates him and REPROGRAMS him. This is where the story collapses on itself. If Smoke truely had recovered his soul, then it wouldn't have mattered what Noob did to him, he still would've remained unchanged. So if Smoke's MK3 ending has any weight, then Noob-Smoke's ending wouldn't have been possible, unless Smoke succumed to his cybernetics and became a full cyborg again.
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 •10/09/2004 06:02 PM (UTC) •
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The guy specifically asked for no spoilers. Either case, this post requires a spoiler warning. - Temp
Not only that, but it also contradicts what we know of Noob and elder Sub-Zero. Noob Saibot, we know, was a loyal follower of Shinnok and a member of the Brothers of the Shadow (led by Quan Chi) before their defeat at the hands of Earth's warriors. Elder Subby, however, was tricked and manipulated by Shinnok and Quan Chi into aiding them, a task that would put them at odds with each other long afterwards. Knowing how prideful elder Subby is, I highly doubt that, once he was killed, he'd feign loyalty to either of them for his own purpose. Also, elder Subby's known to have been strictly AGAINST the Lin Kuei's use of advanced technology. Barring the fact that he died before his clan started their cyberninja program, that technophobia, I think, would prevent him the skills necessary to reprogram Smoke.
So, utilizing this logic, it becomes clear that Noob-Smoke's storyline and ending is nothing more than John Vogel's unique 'what if?' take on Noob's backround.
Then again, he DID screw up a potential storyline twist for Johnny Cage by saying that his death and ressurrection in MK3 and MK4 was nothing more than a story plot for his company's next movie for him, so despite his awesome storywriting, I don't have COMPLETE faith in him.
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 •10/09/2004 06:12 PM (UTC) •
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Again, the guy specifically requested no spoilers. -Temp It's true that Sub-Zero had a technophobia with the Lin Kuie using cybernetics. But it states that his soul was corrupted when he died because of Shinnok's amulet. So could that've led him to abandone all of his previous beliefs as Sub-Zero and adopt new ones as Noob Saibot?
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"Is it so important that you win one last argument with him?" "No, it is not, but it is true that I will miss the arguments; they were, finally, all that we had."

 •10/09/2004 06:26 PM (UTC) •
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Take to PMs. No more spoilers. - Temp
It's possible, and it WOULD explain why he would team up with Shinnok and Quan Chi, as well as decide to use Smoke's nanotechnology to create an army of cyberdemons. However, it WOULDN'T explain how he's able to reprogram Smoke, in the first place. He's a wraith; wraiths generally keep the attributes and experiences they had in life. IF elder Subby's technophobia in life kept him from learning the necessary tools to reprogram a cyberninja, he wouldn't automatically gain them in death. He'd have to relearn them, and I doubt there's a night school in Outworld or the Netherealm (both of which he spent most of his life as Noob Saibot in) that would teach him. The ONLY way I can see this as possible, is if he snuck away during Shao Kahn's invasion and infiltrated the Lin Kuei headquarters in order to gain the necessary knowledge, and even then, there would be little time for him to even learn the basics, let alone the full course for programming. He COULD'VE stolen the datatracks for cyberninja proramming during this time, but again, he'd have little time to go over them, with all the missions Shinnok and Quan Chi would've had for him between then and Deception.
So, I'll allow Vogel the benefit of the doubt as to Noob being elder Subby, but I agree with you: there is no way he'd be able to reprogram Smoke, in any case.
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 •10/09/2004 06:27 PM (UTC) •
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Noob-Smoke had one of the best endings i've seen thus far
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 •10/09/2004 07:07 PM (UTC) •
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The ending was kool but it is bogus that scorpion killed noob saibot though. I didnt know that noob was the original sub-zero then why cant he do the freezing move or the silde move at least.
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 •10/09/2004 07:31 PM (UTC) •
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He probably still can do his kori stuff, but decided to abandon those powers for the powers of the Shadow. He probably wanted to keep his identity a secret and shooting ice around you would certainly bring up alot of suspicion.
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"Is it so important that you win one last argument with him?" "No, it is not, but it is true that I will miss the arguments; they were, finally, all that we had."

 •10/09/2004 10:41 PM (UTC) •
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SynjoDeonecros Wrote:
Take to PMs. No more spoilers. - Temp

I wasn't trying to give out spoilers. I was merely discussing on whether or not the ending could happen. Besides, someone else other than myself and SmokeNc-017 has already let the cat out of the bag, so I see no reason to bitch us out for discussing it.
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 •10/09/2004 10:42 PM (UTC) •
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It's just one ending.
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 •10/09/2004 11:09 PM (UTC) •
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SmokeNc-017 Wrote:
It's a cool ending, but it also contridicts what we knew about Smoke. We knew that, atleast in MK3 Smoke had regained his will and therefore broke free from the Lin Kuie and helped Sub-Zero defeat Cyrax and Sektor. But in Noob-Smoke's bio it states that he was deactivated in Shao Khan's dungeon as a trophy from his invasion of Earthrealm. Noob then reactivates him and REPROGRAMS him. This is where the story collapses on itself. If Smoke truely had recovered his soul, then it wouldn't have mattered what Noob did to him, he still would've remained unchanged. So if Smoke's MK3 ending has any weight, then Noob-Smoke's ending wouldn't have been possible, unless Smoke succumed to his cybernetics and became a full cyborg again.

Not really... just because he had his conscience at one point doesn't mean he can't loose it again... he was beaten by Khan's forces... so maybe his circuits or something like that broke erasing his memory... therefore... clean slate to work on for noob
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