Hmm, I just don't know.
Quan Chi is said to be a sorcerrer powerful in the black arts, which Shang isn't.
That could be a factor in it, but who knows.

As for the green skull fireball, that is so much better than all of Shang's moves, imo (perhaps not the soul steal in terms of effectiveness).

Though I think he is more than fit to be a boss. It's not the special moves that make a boss, it's their look, personality, storyline fighting abilities (which the CPU uses very, very well).

So, I wouldn't mind if he doesn't mave anymore special moves. Although, the rising star kick thing could be a little more effective/better.

hiphoppa Wrote: Quan Chi is said to be a sorcerer like Shang Tsung. With this in mind why does he only have one magical attack (green skull). In MK: DA I don't think he was worthy of being a boss. Shang Tsung definatly was but Quan Chi was just another normal character with with one average special attack, good combos and storyline. If he is to be in MK6 which I hope, I really want him to have more magical attacks like Shang. In a video on MK: DA it shows barakas death. Why wasn't Quan Chi given this move for his Fatality? If he is to be given some more magic in MK6 I think he could be equal to being the best character on game with Shang.

looks like someone never played mk mythologies.

timsmk Wrote: Hmm, I just don't know. Quan Chi is said to be a sorcerrer powerful in the black arts, which Shang isn't. That could be a factor in it, but who knows. As for the green skull fireball, that is so much better than all of Shang's moves, imo (perhaps not the soul steal in terms of effectiveness). Though I think he is more than fit to be a boss. It's not the special moves that make a boss, it's their look, personality, storyline fighting abilities (which the CPU uses very, very well). So, I wouldn't mind if he doesn't mave anymore special moves. Although, the rising star kick thing could be a little more effective/better.

shang is powerful in the black arts. "he learned the black arts from the emperor himself"

scorpio Wrote: looks like someone never played mk mythologies.

Thats correct I didn't thank god. I heard that was one of the wankiest games ever made.

Back to Quan Chi, he is called a sorcerer and sorcerers perform magical attacks.

Whoever said Quan Chis skull fireball is better than any of Shangs obviersly is a Shang hater. People recognise soul steal is Shangs best move and then compare that to other characters moves.
The 3D fire is the best move Shang have and is probably the best move in MK DA. Am I the only person that knows how to use this 3D fireball effectively? I can solo Moloch on hard move just with his fire specials to get a flawless victory both rounds.

well Shang Tsung has been around longer in the Video Game sense, also Tsung has mulpite fireballs techiques and Quan Chi doesnt.

Quan Chi is a strenght oriented fighter and Shang Tsung is a finesse oriented fighter. So Both of them are totally different fighters and they are equal to each other.

hiphoppa Wrote: Thats correct I didn't thank god. I heard that was one of the wankiest games ever made.

Is "wankiest" even a word? Anyway... without playing MK Mythologies you are missing an important part of Quan Chi's story, and Shinnok's as well. Its actually a pretty good game in all respects.

I like Shang Tsung more out of the two, but Quan Chi's Green Skull is WAY better than any of Shang's attacks. Perhaps not in effectiveness, but in originality, yes. And about the fatality, why blame Quan Chi? It was most likely a rushed fatality and wasn't well thought out by the MK team.

i think that Quan Chi just needs another special move, the skull is good and i find it effective for ending power ups, and jump get aways, and the rising star kick is ok, but it doesnt work well vs better opponents, i also think he needs to add a little weight, he looks better like he did in 4,in five he went on a big diet or something.

hiphoppa Wrote: Whoever said Quan Chis skull fireball is better than any of Shangs obviersly is a Shang hater. People recognise soul steal is Shangs best move and then compare that to other characters moves. The 3D fire is the best move Shang have and is probably the best move in MK DA. Am I the only person that knows how to use this 3D fireball effectively? I can solo Moloch on hard move just with his fire specials to get a flawless victory both rounds.

Well, first off, I said imo the green skull fireball is better than any of Shang's moves except maybe the soul steal, doesn't mean I think it's the best move he has, it means I think it's the best move it has, so thank you for that.

And second, I think the 3D fire is just there as fillers as they couldn't think of any others to put in (I don't blame them, I can't think of any other Shang moves for MKDA).
I think the green skull fireball is better as the fireball is just a fireball that explodes, the green skull is a skull for a start, and a fireball, and does some cool eating animation .

Thirdly, I am not a Shang hater, I happen to like Shang alot, but I just prefer Quan Chi.

But think about it, 3D fire? Big deal, it may be effective (well, kinda, it's just blocked in the same way), but in terms of creativity it isn't hugely satisfying, especially when they add two versions of it.

Well that's just my opinion anyway.

Shang Tsung's 3d Fire is an effective move in many situations, but, with the exception of Nitara's "throw," no other move but the Soul Steal both hurts the opponent and adds life to the character.

As a sorcerer, I agree that Quan Chi needs more depth. The Skull fireball is pretty cool, but what other magic powers can he use in combat? It seems that his main power involves travelling the realms, but that doesn't lend itself well to battle.

Hmm...here's a possibility, kinda inspired by Baraka's MKGold ending. The move would appear to have no effect, until the opponent hits Quan Chi. The the sorcerer explodes, and appears behind the opponent.

Shang Tsung IS skilled in the Balck arts, and magic. Thats what I really love of this character,. IMO, is much better, stronger and cooler then Quan Chi. But Quan Chi also has many high points. I agree on the fact HE NEEDS TO EVOLVE MORE ON MAGIC. I mean, I want him to use black arts and all, look as evil as Tsung. He has to do that. The skull is a very cool move, love it, but the soul steel IS MUCH MORE ORIGINAL.

Quan needs magic powers. Tsung needs a lot more, I guess I have many ideas on what they could do for him. I mean, its very easy to “add” or “create” or “make up” magic attacks, U just need good imagination for that

Shang is more popular, but not as powerful or as strong as Quan Chi. Quan Chi has studied the arts of magic far longger than Shang.

Subzero_5th Wrote: Shang is more popular, but not as powerful or as strong as Quan Chi. Quan Chi has studied the arts of magic far longger than Shang.

You say that Quan Chi is stronger and more powerful then Shang Tsung and has studied the arts of magic longer. If that is the case, then why couldn't Quan Chi transfer the souls himself?
They don't study the same kind of magic.
It also seems that Quan Chi likes to use his brute force and skill to win his battles. But Tsung will use his magic every chance he gets. I don't think Quan Chi needs a magical fatality, but one that will really show off his brute force.

Why can't Quan Chi have a fatality that is both brutal AND magical? Read my fatality idea for Quan in one of the mk6 fatality ideas threads. Basically Quan Stands behind the opponent, gauges his fingers into their eyes, and puts some kind of evil magic in the opponent. Green light pours from the eyes while they stagger around, then their flesh melts off, and Quan kicks the skeleton.

Well in MK6 I'm sure all the players will have two fatalities, so Quan Chi could have a brutal and a magic fatality. But he doesn't need to have all the "flash" that Tsung has. Even thought they are both sorcerer's, they are still two every different fighters. And your fatality idea sounds good.

In MK:DA CPU-Shang Tsung is much easier to beat than CPU-Quan Chi... In order to beat Shang Tsung stick to your weapon, first attack him with some very fast little combo or just one simple attack, you'll most likely block his counter attack, and it's almost sure he'll end up his combo with his straight sword (if he is not already using it) which has attacks that are very very easy to punish or counter attack... So... From my point of view (fighting against the CPU) Shang Tsung is much easier than Quan Chi...

And overall Quan Chi is my favorite. And for me, his looks, and outfits in MKM, MK4 and even MK:DA is much more original than Shan Tsung

Thats because the CPU dosen't abuse Shang's magical attacks like real players do. The AI playes Shang like Quan Chi in being agreesive in physical combat. Shang is a defensive character and every chance he gets he should use his magic, the CPU dosen't. Thats why Quan Chi is harder to beat because be is great at physical combat.

Anyways I made this thread to get Quan Chi more magic. Socerers= wizard= casting spells, summoning magic. He has one move that uses magic and thats it.

When I said 3D fire is the best move ingame I didn't mean for the way it looked for fucks sake. Quan Chi's skull throw looks much better but is just as effective as Johnny Cages green fireball.

Just for an idea: Quan chi could have a move called 'heart attack'. He would reach out for the opponent (like Jax's gotcha grab), and hold him up in the air. A green light could project through the opponents body and they begin to shake, after 4 seconds they could fall to the floor.
Wouldn't be hard to make this move because its a similar graphic to Raidens electical grab move.

Quan Chi's fatality I still think should be the move he killed baraka with in the movie you can unlock in the Krypt.