indeed

I believe that it was officially stated in MK:T that Ermac was a warrior comprised of souls belonging to Shao Kahn. Im no MK character expert, but i think thats how ermac was created.

He was actually a glitch in the first MK game. The error refered to as Error Macro, they later decided to make him a character due to the rampent rumors flying about him. Error Macro, hence the name Ermac. So in a way you are right Ether. At least I think this is correct. If I have left something out please let me know.

ermac never existed until umk3. he was a rumor made up by a fan (egm). there was no ermac and no glitch in mk1.

Ummm. Sorry but there was. It's been stated before. Besides what makes you the expert?

it's beating a dead horse. he doesn't exist. neither does a red ninja glitch.

first read this thread.

http://www.mortalkombatonline.com/content/forum/showmessage.cds?name=classic&message;=6311

then this thread

http://www.mortalkombatonline.com/content/forum/showmessage.cds?name=classic&message;=9961

and for the rediculous read this

http://www.mortalkombatonline.com/content/forum/showmessage.cds?name=classic&message;=10901



it's explained in great detail. nothing that needs to be discussed on this forum.

MENTHOL Wrote: it's beating a dead horse. he doesn't exist. neither does a red ninja glitch. first read this thread. http://www.mortalkombatonline.com/content/forum/showmessage.cds?name=classic&message;=6311 then this thread http://www.mortalkombatonline.com/content/forum/showmessage.cds?name=classic&message;=9961 and for the rediculous read this http://www.mortalkombatonline.com/content/forum/showmessage.cds?name=classic&message;=10901 it's explained in great detail. nothing that needs to be discussed on this forum.

I got this in one of those threads you posted there:
No. Stop kidding yourself, you're never going to see him in the game. Ever. That's a video game magazine pushing a rumor that isn't true. Ed Boon probably said, "ERMACS exist in early versions MK1", not, "Ermac, a character we created to be fought against, exists in MK1 as a hidden character."

Matt

I was not saying that he was a secret character in MK1 Simply that he was a glitch that affected scorpion very very rarely. He wan't a hidden character just a mistake.

MENTHOL Wrote: it's beating a dead horse. he doesn't exist. neither does a red ninja glitch.

I hate to prove you wrong since you seem so sure of yourself, but the fact is that in Mortal Kombat, the Error Macro WAS a glitch that very rarely occurred. In fact, I don't beleive anyone has ever seen it actually happen, or at least no one has ever provided a photo of it. Considering that alot of people have the game emulated or have the actual arcade machine itself, its hard to beleive that the glitch has never been seen. But it does, in effect, exist. Scorpion's name bar does not become 'Ermac', nor is Ermac an actual character in the game...but a rare glitch on the color hue of Scorpion's outfit is what the Error Macro is...people just ran with it when they heard that it causes a red ninja to appear.


As for the 'thousands of souls' story they had for him in UMK3/Trilogy, I think that it is partially related to the fact that everybody took the idea from MK1 and 2 and ran with it. Error Macros weren't a tally in MK2, but the 'Who is Ermac?' messages that appeared at the end of the game or when one of the secret characters appeared in MK2 were a direct response to that rumor. Since UMK3 went ape with the ninjas and included every ninja that ever existed, the Ermac story was, again, probably a direct result of that rumor.

well said shang_heihachi... i agree with you completely... glitches like that while rare are still common in many video games in certain instances... it's a glitch though nothing more... and if someone see's it and says something about it people tell people and it gets exagerated to the point where some people may beleive there was an actual character designed into the game.. but it's just a glitch... i believe mortal kombat 2 had a similar glith with kitanas color....

no, you people are wrong. there was never a red scorpion glitch. that was made up to keep the ermac rumor alive after the initial egm article was debunked.

"It's funny how you say that my only possible proof is the yellow in the clothing, but then you say it's also slightly red. It's neither. It's fleshtones, because those colors are in Scorpion's arms and face scattered about, matching the color of his outfit to blend in. The glare on Sub-zero's back in MK1 is also fleshtones, and the color glitches in Reptile's costume are fleshtones found in both Scorpion and Reptile. The reused pallets, they do not alter the hues in any way, there's no way to get a completely solid red Scorpion by accident, it would have to be programmed in. In MK1 and MK2 the ninjas are filmed in yellow, but there is no BASE pallet for any character, it's a pallet made for them, which is why Reptile doesn't look 100% right. He was added later on in the revisions, and they didn't refilm him so they had no choice but to change the pallet internally. If they did the same to add Ermac, he would be reproducable. The 1 in 1,000,000,000 chance theory is 1,000,000,000% bullshit so shut up about that worthless theory. That's bogus and you know it. The fact of the matter is, the picture is too dark to show the exact pallet specifications, so it doesn't even matter if he's 100% solid red. If the picture was intentionally made clear enough to see, they would have made it 100% perfect and undisputed."

learn something. a red outfit would of had to have been programmed in because they used flesh tones in mk1. get over it. ermac nor a red ninja ever existed. the sooner you accept it the better. and don't reply here about it. reply in those threads where they're being discussed. read through them first.

Well, I don't know if Ermac was in MK1 or not, and honestly the debate is old. My thread concerns wether or not Boon and Tobias created Ermac's "comprised of thousands of souls" story to reflect Ermac's real life creation. Thousands of fans heard and spread the rumor, thus giving Ermac life. I never knew that Ermac was such a heated topic here.

well on that wether he was in mk1 or not i think the vast spreading of the rumours from fans and magazine articles stating the appearance of this glitch or hidden chraracter that everyone talked about it and asked questions and sought to find it and in mk2 they put in the "who is ermac" thing so i belive that it was the fans and the romour that spurred boon and team into adding the character in mk3 and probalby about the thousands of souls.. being the thousands of fans....

Big debate over nothing. Oftentimes the screens would discolor near the edges of the monitor, thus making a yellow ninja look reddish. I believe in the code there was something that said Errmac--and somebody somehow tied the two together in a very idiotic moment that still lingers after 12 years.

if you want a real glitch for mk1 there is one and it aint ermac. in mk1 for snes perform raiden's fatal in the final endurance match before goro and he will drop down as a silvery glitch. silver goro, unlike red scorpion, actually exists. focus on that, instead.

he is made up of several souls. remember in mortal kombat annihilation he was fighting sonya and he summoned Noob Saibot out of his chest.

Dragon_king Wrote: remember in mortal kombat annihilation he was fighting sonya and he summoned Noob Saibot out of his chest.

is that wat happend, i remembered seeing that a few years back and wondering wat he did

wasnt that just another ermac?

blackwizard Wrote: wasnt that just another ermac?

No it was stupid, but I think it was meant to be Noob.

This topic doesn't belong in this forum. And frankly, I'm tired of seeing so many Ermac threads lately. Whether you believe him to be in MK1 or not, let it die.