he sucks

exactly...what about him? i dont think anyone cares as he was extremely average and the lamest sub-boss in mk history. hi, i am a big, blue troll thing that roars and i have 3 eyes. yay. next.

Yeah... Don't get me wrong, I though he was kinda cool, but you lose all credibility as a sub-boss when your entire story revolves around being 1/2 of a duo. Sub-bosses are supposed to be big, burly, self-sufficiant ass-kicker types. Hanging out with a wussy like Drahmin didn't do much for his rep.
Gotta love that bigass ball though. :)

I felt that his design was well made, however content wise, you guys are right. The story for him was very half-poised, and uninteresting.
His moves were not very hard to avoiid, and if you just keep pressure on him, he's easy to kill. Not a very good sub boss at all.
I remember cussing my eyes out at Goro back in MK in the arcade, and even getting thrown out due to my language. Now that's a sub-boss.

Moloch blows.End of discussion.

I hate moloch. Goro was the only good sub-boss they made.

razorxz Wrote: We would probably learn about his demise in the next game. And by the way, I love Goro and all, but Moloch would stomp on him (after a long hard battle ofcourse) Goro may be a little faster but he does not want none of that ball on chain.

If that's the case then Kintaro would stomp the ugh me big thing with ball and chain guy.

I disagree.. they've alaways had good sub-boss's but they really blew it last year... and i hate to say it but i dont even think noobsmoke is a good sub boss.. i want a god damn goro back

if they brought bak goro in every single game, that wuld be borin. moloch was an alrite sub boss i thawt, but yea, way too easy to kill. i think the noob/smoke thing is an alrite idea, but sumin big, like goro, moloch or montaro (not them, but sumone new)mite be beter, still we havent playd the game yet and dont no, we'll see

Moloch was SO LOTR. I do miss the Shokans though.

Moloch was the worst.
All the other sub-booses were awesome. Although the threee of them (Goro, Kintaro, Motaro) were all alike, they were still great.
Now before anyone goes 'goro Motaro alike? Whats he smoking?' They had a sub-boss with extra limbs, they just stuck em outta somewhere else. Don't get me wrong, the three of them were some of my favourites (in this order: 1. Goro 2. Motaro 3. Kintaro.)
Moloch was just some big ugly blue dude who went bowling with super glue on his hand! hes slow, hes a dumbass, hes was wierd and I hope to god from now on we can fatality sub-bosses. I liked making Shang and Quan puke.

scutter Wrote: Moloch was SO LOTR. I do miss the Shokans though.

LOTR ??? ....... Lord of the Rings!

Yea moloch was a very shitty boss. And the reason noob-smoke are the sub boss is because in all the other games the sub boss was big and bad ass but in this game the boss is big and bad ass. Except shao kahn and motaro team.

moloch SUCKS! after you work so hard to beat a shitty boss like that you should atleast have the right to unlock him, even tho he has no fatality.

I though't moloch would make an OK sub-boss for only 1 game... kind of like Motaro...
I dont think he is dead or anything like that... I think he'll be ignored for a while to see fan reaction... and then he may get a 2nd chance like Tanya did

List of Sub-boss that should return:
Goro
Motaro
Kintaro
List of Sub-boss that shouldn't return:
Moloch

Moloch was not THAT bad, but he was the worst of the SUb-boss monsters.
Goro should not return AS a Sub-Boss again, enough is enough.
Motaro or another Centaur would be amazing in 3d.

queve Wrote: Moloch was not THAT bad, but he was the worst of the SUb-boss monsters. Goro should not return AS a Sub-Boss again, enough is enough. Motaro or another Centaur would be amazing in 3d.

Everything he just said, I agree with. Moloch wasn't the greatest but, he wasn't that bad. Goro should have stayed dead. He was cool for a while, but now he is dumb. Kintaro would be cool in 3D, but out of them all I would prefer to see Motaro.
I'm also looking foward to this Noob Smoke thing very much.

Motaro would look AWESOME in 3-D, no doubt. But they'd need to have some other boss, not Onaga cuz having a sub-boss who's not fully human and having a boss who's a dragon isn't interesting. I personally think Onaga isn't a good boss but Motaro always was a good sub-boss to play against. I loved his stance after winning. It's like "BOW DOWN TO ME FOR I AM MOTARO I'M POWERFUL HEAR ME ROAR"

Moloch is cool and all but pales in comparison to Goro,Kintaro,Motaro and maybe Noob-Smoke. They should have had Drahmin as a sub-boss with Moloch. Make it into a Endurance type of match. The reasons for this is that Moloch is easy to beat even at Max difficulty level. Also after reading Drahmin's Bio, it makes it seem like those two were best friends and always together.

Moloch's design was cool. But he was the worst sub-boss in MK-history imo. However, Goro is dead and even if he would come back he would fight at Kitana and Kung Lao's side (anyone remember Kung Lao's ending from MK Gold?) I really like the shokans and I think Motaro was kinda cool too. But I guess it's Noob/Smoke now huh? Well, they don't really seem like a big threat to me, but will just have to wait and see.

djwoodford Wrote: Moloch was nothing compared to Goro And Kintaro, i would say lets revive Sheeva and Goro and have them as a tag team, that would something be else!

Sheeva must return! That would be awesome! Look at my post about that... She should be good this time around too if her story checked out correctly.