Why the hell would the game title (deception) relate to the pre-release info about the character list and not the games storyline??????

WHY!?!?!?

so your freakin sayin that the your happy with the list? huh? huh? huh?......

fine but it was just a thought dont have to go and flame me

24 is a little short im happy with the people in it i just think they coulda had more

note to self ignore user

and i didnt say anything about the storline

moosie_fate Wrote: Why the hell would the game title (deception) relate to the pre-release info about the character list and not the games storyline?????? WHY!?!?!?

I was thinking the same thing. I think that there are more characters in it that they aren't telling us about and we won't find out until the game is released.

I’m not saying that I’m happy with the playable character number and I’m not saying I’m unhappy about it, until the game is released and we get to judge it on what it is everything else will just remain speculation.

As for deception relating to the pre-release hype I say a few too many people are looking for hidden meanings that simply are not there. The line deception is related to the games storyline in some way, who the hell is going to remember pre-game hype after a year and go ‘oh yeah that’s why it’s called deception’ NO ONE that’s who!!

With every MK release there are things thrown around and rumored about the game before its release and with every MK there isn’t enough time to implement everything that’s been talked about. In this case deception would be one way to classify it from a cynical persons view point.

It’s too early to start complaining about the number of characters or the specific breakdown (6 from DA, 10 returning & 8 new). Until the game is released and we’ve seen the full picture we’ve just got to trust that Boon knows what he’s doing. There could be extra hidden characters but if they’re anything like Mokap I’d be happier with the standard 24.

Quality over Quantity

No.


Remember DA

sorry about being snappy but you flamed me so i snapped back (besides it was late at night im snappy late at night)

i do no that deception is to with story i was just that what if it is also to with pre-release info ya know?

moosie_fate Wrote: I’m not saying that I’m happy with the playable character number and I’m not saying I’m unhappy about it, until the game is released and we get to judge it on what it is everything else will just remain speculation. As for deception relating to the pre-release hype I say a few too many people are looking for hidden meanings that simply are not there. The line deception is related to the games storyline in some way, who the hell is going to remember pre-game hype after a year and go ‘oh yeah that’s why it’s called deception’ NO ONE that’s who!! With every MK release there are things thrown around and rumored about the game before its release and with every MK there isn’t enough time to implement everything that’s been talked about. In this case deception would be one way to classify it from a cynical persons view point. It’s too early to start complaining about the number of characters or the specific breakdown (6 from DA, 10 returning & 8 new). Until the game is released and we’ve seen the full picture we’ve just got to trust that Boon knows what he’s doing. There could be extra hidden characters but if they’re anything like Mokap I’d be happier with the standard 24. Quality over Quantity

its just a hunch but what if thats the actually playable list? and no secret characters like in the krypt cause no one has said anything about secrets yet

Boon already said that "deception" refers to the fans and the media, not just the game's plot. I think there will be more than 24 characters, and the numbers that have been released thus far are intentionally inaccurate. In fact, I made a similar comment in another thread.

After all the complaints about MK:DA not having enough things hidden, and too much information being revealed before it was released, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the MK team listened and gives away less this time around.

VoltEF Wrote: Boon already said that "deception" refers to the fans and the media, not just the game's plot. I think there will be more than 24 characters, and the numbers that have been released thus far are intentionally inaccurate. In fact, I made a similar comment in another thread. After all the complaints about MK:DA not having enough things hidden, and too much information being revealed before it was released, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the MK team listened and gives away less this time around.

im glad you and i are on the same page as far this thread concerns other people that posted here dont seem to understand that boon already said that

and when this game comes out with more people from deception such as kung lao and all of them i will be laughing

who said that it would have 24 charas in it anyway?

SNAKE_EATER - Yeah, sorry my flaming happened at a late hour as well. Just the way you worded the question made it sound as if you thought deception would only relate to pre-release hype and not the actual game.

I remember Boon saying that deception also related to the media, it would be nice if there where hidden characters and lots of secrets instead of just poxy concept art locked away in the krypt. It’d be good if the secrets weren’t sitting in the krypt waiting to be brought but instead involved finishing the game with certain people in a certain order or something else game play related.

But like I said, quality over quantity. If they make a good game that will tide us over until the next MK without all the secrets and extras I’ll be happy. It’s better than ending up with a shit game packed with extras that you get sick of easily and don’t want to play.

It’s hard to speculate about the characters because apart from wanting favorites back we really don’t know if they’ll fit into the story line. If we get 24 well rounded characters I don’t think too many people will mind, but if we get a few rushed jobs with a feeble storyline, look or moves just to fill a quota most people will want more to make up for the main characters short comings.

SNAKE_EATER Wrote: who said that it would have 24 charas in it anyway?

I don't remember if it was in the PSM article or not, but it was definitely in the IGN piece.

if it was ign i dont weather to trust it cause sometimes they tell fibs are decieved if it was
reported at the-magic i would believe it cause they havent failed me yet

Why the hell is everyone bitching about the roster of 24 characters? That's ALOT of characters for a fighting game. Think about it...are you going to play EVERY character to death? I doubt it...especially since everyone usually just has one or two favorites and sticks with them. MKDA had plenty of characters, and Deception will have more than enough. There wasn't even a mention of secret characters possibly being playable, so people just need to relax.


As for the main topic...i'm not flaming you at all, but that's the most illogical theory i've heard yet. They wouldn't name the game with the intention of misleading people with the roster.

shang_heihachi Wrote: As for the main topic...i'm not flaming you at all, but that's the most illogical theory i've heard yet. They wouldn't name the game with the intention of misleading people with the roster.

There's nothing illogical about it at all. Boon said "deception" would refer to things outside the game's story, including deceiving the media. What is illogical in the slightest about thinking that A. there are more characters than initially suggested or B. the distribution of those characters is not the same as what was initially revealed (i.e. there are actually 4 new characters, not 8, and 10 characters returning from MK:DA, not 6)? Point out the logical flaw there, please. This isn't a flame, I don't understand how that's an illogical theory given Boon's prior comments, especially considering how many people complained that in DA there were too many new characters and not enough old favorites.

What i'm saying is that people are thinking that the title "Deception" applies to EVERYTHING about the game. I highly doubt the character distribution is among those things that are related to "Deception". Basically, everyone is just running with this idea of deception. I see threads and comments popping up all the time saying 'Its not Sub-Zero! Its Shredder! THAT'S DECEPTION!' and 'Its not Mileena! ITS BALEENA! THE THIRD SISTER! THAT'S DECEPTION!' and 'The Dragon King is Shao Kahn! THAT'S DECEPTION!".

Maybe I shouldn't have used the term 'illogical', but I really think people are exaggerating Boon's comments. Every time new information comes out, people freak out and say its not true, they're trying to deceive us. There just needs to be some rationalization before jumping to conclusions.

shang_heihachi – finally someone else who sees my point of view. (see above posts)

VoltEF – it may not be illogical but what is to gain by promoting a product with false information?? The only thing that can come out of it is many disappointed fans, lying about the character roster isn’t going to be a good thing if people are all excited about 10 returning classics or 8 new characters and then later find out the game is basically DA with a handful of added characters. Sure Boon said that deception would relate to the media but boon says a lot of things and by saying that we’re all going to question everything without him having to mislead us one little bit. Shit, they don’t even have to release any new info and we’ll continue speculating about the most inane details. When was the last time we got a slab of real info?? It’s been a while, and yet we’re in a frenzy trying to decipher possible cryptic hints that don’t really exist from the info we have.

Yes there might be some media deception going on but I doubt it would relate to the core game play because if it’s not what they say it’s going to be lots of people will be disappointed. (and that’s not good for sales)

maybe not the characters themselves being falsely confirmed but just the short roster? i mean da didnt kill that many people in it did it?

My point isn't that the deception will be that the game is less than they're saying, but that it will be more or at least different. I don't think they're going to alienate fans by not having the features they claim they will, but that they might skew things, i.e. have more returning classics, because fans have been very vocal in their wishes to have more old favorites than new characters. Or that they haven't said one major reason they're only releasing the game on XBox and PS2 is because they plan to occasionally release downloadable characters and extra costumes for Konquest mode, which GameCube can't support (and yes, I know the lower sales numbers for 'Cube is a bigger factor). These are just the first possibilities that popped into my head, but I agree it would be foolish to not include things they said the game would have. That's not what I meant though.

As for everything being deception, I also agree that it's foolish to speculate that everything from Shredder/Sub-Zero to Raiden actually being Ashrah could be deception. But I don't think the size and make-up of the roster falls into that same category. The fans were very vocal about how they didn't like that aspect of DA. If they are planning to deceive the media/fans, that would be the first thing I think they would do. Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I see this one differently, Shang-heihachi. Live and let live.

I have a what if question for you. What if MK6 had a cel-shaded mode, would you still play it?

I’d be more inclined to play a classic 2D mode over a cell shaded one. Mk doesn’t really lend itself to a cartoon-ish feel.

SmokeNc-017 Wrote: I have a what if question for you. What if MK6 had a cel-shaded mode, would you still play it?

no that would suck big time i dont like cell shaded stuff dont ask why i jusrt dont

oh well i guess well see gameplay at e3 this year maybe even more characters

what if they only have that short a roster because most of them were in da so there gonna have a save file thingy (the technical term) like they do with dw (dynasty warrios) only they didnt want to make it to obvious so they made 6 returning on the official roster

I'm sorry to break it to you people. But Santa Claus doesnt exist!!

"But... WHAT IF!!!?"

No.