What point in time for DC does this all take place?
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What point in time for DC does this all take place?
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posted12/04/2008 04:37 AM (UTC)by

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RazorsEdge701, in another post, made some pretty decent points for the point in time of the MK universe this all takes place in – Kahn's invasion of Earth has just been foiled, which sets this game at the end of MK3; but Sub-Zero still acts loyal to the Lin Kuei, implying that they haven't even built the cyberninjas yet; Kitana is, instead, a freedom fighter in Outworld who leads a band of similarly dressed women trying to free Edenia, Shang Tsung is young like in MK2 and 3, but lives on his island, which he only did in MK1, Scorpion is the MK4 version who serves Quan Chi, and Kano is still a member of the Black Dragon being hunted by Sonya like he was in MK1, but in the actual canon, Kano and the Black Dragon gang had lost touch with each other by MK3, and he became a soldier in Kahn's army, eventually rising to the rank of general when Motaro died.
That pretty much sums up the MK side of things.
So what about DC? When did Darkseid take over Earth? Does it make sense that the Flash is the newer Wally West instead of the older Barry Allen, but that the Green Lantern is the older Hal Jordan instead of John Stewart or Kyle Reiner? Has Superman already battled Doomsday? Is the Joker making ha-ha with Harley Quinn at this point? Judging from Batman's OMAC ending, the whole "Identity Crisis" storyline hasn't happened yet, right?
I'm hoping some comics fan can shed some light on this. I realize that with DC comics 70+ years of history to go through (or at least 25+ during the whole reboot after the "Crisis on Infinite Earths" storyline) it may be a bit harder to peg than MK's.
That pretty much sums up the MK side of things.
So what about DC? When did Darkseid take over Earth? Does it make sense that the Flash is the newer Wally West instead of the older Barry Allen, but that the Green Lantern is the older Hal Jordan instead of John Stewart or Kyle Reiner? Has Superman already battled Doomsday? Is the Joker making ha-ha with Harley Quinn at this point? Judging from Batman's OMAC ending, the whole "Identity Crisis" storyline hasn't happened yet, right?
I'm hoping some comics fan can shed some light on this. I realize that with DC comics 70+ years of history to go through (or at least 25+ during the whole reboot after the "Crisis on Infinite Earths" storyline) it may be a bit harder to peg than MK's.


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Well...Darkseid attacks Earth like once every season or two in the universe of the Batman, Superman, and Justice League animated series' by Bruce Timm and Paul Dini. In the comics, though, it doesn't happen too often.
That said, it's actually happening right now in the "Final Crisis" miniseries. It's a bit more epic than simply trashing Metropolis, though. He and his kind are actually deities who are taking possession of human bodies in order to operate subversively under the radar, and have used the magical "anti-life equation" to successfully turn almost everyone on Earth into mindless slaves, leaving only a handful of superheroes to fight back. It's actually surprisingly similar to the plot of MK3, what with the whole "Earth is already conquered, the bad guys won, now we have to take it back" theme, lol.
Beyond that...Batman's ending has him building OMAC robots, which actually happened already in 2005.
That's about how long it's been since Hal Jordan came back to life as a Green Lantern, too. But his ending references the Sinestro Corps, which has only been around since 2006.
And the game's Flash is Barry Allen, who's been dead for 20 years and only came back to life very, very recently IN Final Crisis, which as I mentioned hasn't even finished yet. Besides which, this game's Flash has green eyes. Barry in the comics has blue eyes and Wally West has green.
Superhero video games usually always happen in their own exclusive timelines, anyway. Marvel Ultimate Alliance, Hulk: Ultimate Destruction, Spider-Man: Web of Shadows, Justice League Heroes, etc. aren't canon with the comics.
That said, it's actually happening right now in the "Final Crisis" miniseries. It's a bit more epic than simply trashing Metropolis, though. He and his kind are actually deities who are taking possession of human bodies in order to operate subversively under the radar, and have used the magical "anti-life equation" to successfully turn almost everyone on Earth into mindless slaves, leaving only a handful of superheroes to fight back. It's actually surprisingly similar to the plot of MK3, what with the whole "Earth is already conquered, the bad guys won, now we have to take it back" theme, lol.
Beyond that...Batman's ending has him building OMAC robots, which actually happened already in 2005.
That's about how long it's been since Hal Jordan came back to life as a Green Lantern, too. But his ending references the Sinestro Corps, which has only been around since 2006.
And the game's Flash is Barry Allen, who's been dead for 20 years and only came back to life very, very recently IN Final Crisis, which as I mentioned hasn't even finished yet. Besides which, this game's Flash has green eyes. Barry in the comics has blue eyes and Wally West has green.
Superhero video games usually always happen in their own exclusive timelines, anyway. Marvel Ultimate Alliance, Hulk: Ultimate Destruction, Spider-Man: Web of Shadows, Justice League Heroes, etc. aren't canon with the comics.


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I was thinking this was just a totally new branch... like a side-story.
I'm probably wrong.
I'm probably wrong.
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Anyone under the impression this game was anything but an MK game, was sorely mistaken (and probably a whiney little girl). You could probably make arguments for lots of periods hovering around Final Crisis, but the connections are vague and unsubstantial and don't make any excuse for silly costume (re)designs. Mr. Allen, I'll see you after class.
Although, I have my doubts about the solidarity of reference point from the MK side, too. There just happen to be more in-universe references to recognise.
In a perfect world where the opinions of most fans (and MK team employees) are disregarded; the game would've slotted neatly (and canonically) into the continued post-Armageddon MK timeline whilst drawing upon recent DC events, namely Darkseid's little fall through reality, etc etc.
Since it isn't a perfect world, I think it's safe to call it a DC tax write-off.
Charity! Ohhhhhh, sting-ka-pow-wow-skibbidy-bow!
Although, I have my doubts about the solidarity of reference point from the MK side, too. There just happen to be more in-universe references to recognise.
In a perfect world where the opinions of most fans (and MK team employees) are disregarded; the game would've slotted neatly (and canonically) into the continued post-Armageddon MK timeline whilst drawing upon recent DC events, namely Darkseid's little fall through reality, etc etc.
Since it isn't a perfect world, I think it's safe to call it a DC tax write-off.
Charity! Ohhhhhh, sting-ka-pow-wow-skibbidy-bow!


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I can't imagine that trying to make a comic game fit the continuity of the comics at the time of release could POSSIBLY ever be a good idea.
Storylines are ongoing and move so fast that by the time the game came out, it would no longer match the history it was trying to follow, not to mention the game would then be inaccessible to anyone who might want to wait a few years before picking it up on discount, because they wouldn't be aware of the context.
No, the wisest course of action when adapting comics is to just match the standard status quo and invent your own plot details from there.
Storylines are ongoing and move so fast that by the time the game came out, it would no longer match the history it was trying to follow, not to mention the game would then be inaccessible to anyone who might want to wait a few years before picking it up on discount, because they wouldn't be aware of the context.
No, the wisest course of action when adapting comics is to just match the standard status quo and invent your own plot details from there.
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DC plan much of their schedule far in advance. Cohesion is as simple as building off an idea and sticking to it. An act neither particularly complex, nor influenced by monthly output.
You and your wacky misreadings!
It needn't be as specific as USM, which, granted, gave us the long awaited arrival of Ultimate Beetle. It is an MK home game.
You and your wacky misreadings!
It needn't be as specific as USM, which, granted, gave us the long awaited arrival of Ultimate Beetle. It is an MK home game.


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The DCU is in the middle of a period of status quo upheaval, so even without specificity, six months to a year isn't far enough in advance for video game development, especially since plans have a habit of changing midstream, especially in DC's case. Just look at the trainwreck the Countdown series became.
Plus, that would risk spoiler leaks for the outcomes of major events.
Plus, that would risk spoiler leaks for the outcomes of major events.
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
Blah blah blah blah
Blah blah blah blah
Darkseid's "death" was known in plenty of time, among other points I might make if we were in the same conversation.


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You're not very good at making valid points whenever someone disagrees with you, Mick.
Last I checked, the argument was whether or not someone could make a game that ties into DC continuity. You suggested it could be done, saying the Darkseid part of the game's plot should have been based on DCU #0, the prologue to Final Crisis, I explained why it wouldn't work, and you're now not only saying "nuh uh, that's not what I said", you're also belittling my posts.
Deflect, change the subject, ignore the evidence. That's your pattern. You might consider a little improv in the future, now that I know your script.
Last I checked, the argument was whether or not someone could make a game that ties into DC continuity. You suggested it could be done, saying the Darkseid part of the game's plot should have been based on DCU #0, the prologue to Final Crisis, I explained why it wouldn't work, and you're now not only saying "nuh uh, that's not what I said", you're also belittling my posts.
Deflect, change the subject, ignore the evidence. That's your pattern. You might consider a little improv in the future, now that I know your script.
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I would never use the word "continuity" to describe a tie-in game.
Darkseid falls through multiple planes of reality. There's your game, in a very broad nutshell.
You're doing your 'read it one way, can't get past it' deal (that's very cute and zany). I made a very simple, very broad remark that, as you can see, is not especially refutable. As a conversation, it is brief and non-committal.
A game that connects to reference points in some fashion is not hard to do. USM is part of the respective continuity. If you want to be that specific for OCD reasons I can't begin to understand, there's that.
It's a hypothetical, and not a difficult one, at that.
Plot meets plot. Has baby video game-plot. Game-plot brakes fail and game-pram careens out of control into oncoming traffic. The moon has a smiley face. Existential ponderings. Fin.
Darkseid falls through multiple planes of reality. There's your game, in a very broad nutshell.
You're doing your 'read it one way, can't get past it' deal (that's very cute and zany). I made a very simple, very broad remark that, as you can see, is not especially refutable. As a conversation, it is brief and non-committal.
A game that connects to reference points in some fashion is not hard to do. USM is part of the respective continuity. If you want to be that specific for OCD reasons I can't begin to understand, there's that.
It's a hypothetical, and not a difficult one, at that.
Plot meets plot. Has baby video game-plot. Game-plot brakes fail and game-pram careens out of control into oncoming traffic. The moon has a smiley face. Existential ponderings. Fin.


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And you think a fleeting reference to something that happened in an issue of a comic would serve the game and it's customers better than the Dark Kahn origin they actually came up with?
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
And you think a fleeting reference to something that happened in an issue of a comic would serve the game and it's customers better than the Dark Kahn origin they actually came up with?
And you think a fleeting reference to something that happened in an issue of a comic would serve the game and it's customers better than the Dark Kahn origin they actually came up with?
You have a lack of faith and imagination. That problem lies with you.
If it helps end this any quicker; you're a constant disappointment, son.


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