Why did Midway change Li Mei so much! (im happy with this thread :-) you can close it)
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posted11/02/2004 07:08 PM (UTC)by
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Libra
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08/05/2004 08:22 PM (UTC)
im not complaining (well...i guess i am grin), shes my all time fav. character. she is the best in MKD (in my little world that is) but before the game actually comes out, she was totally different. im not talking about the story, i mean appereance. like.....
1. her primary costume used to be the "armor" costume, but they changed it into her "bandana" costume....why?
2. she used to have her Baji Quan style but they changed it into Bo Rai Cho's useless fighting style, the Mi Zong....why?
3. they also changed her "Melon" weapon into a sword.......this one i can understand.
4. Her chess piece before the game came out was the armor costume. i mean, why bother making it and then trash it away to make a more revealing piece?
i know its not that a big of a deal but i just cant help it but wonder. you know? wink (haha, im a loser, i know)
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11/01/2004 02:15 AM (UTC)
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I know what you mean! I wonder why they changed her, I like her Baji Quan style, her new style I think is Mi Zong I don't like it!. As for her apperance I don't like it either, I always use her ALT in MKD. I like it more than the original one. wink
I never use her Mi Zong fighting style, for some reason I always liked Baji Quan. However she is still a good character. grin
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Libra
11/01/2004 02:29 AM (UTC)
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Toxik Wrote:
I know what you mean! I wonder why they changed her, I like her Baji Quan style, her new style I think is Mi Zong I don't like it!. As for her apperance I don't like it either, I always use her ALT in MKD. I like it more than the original one. wink
I never use her Mi Zong fighting style, for some reason I always liked Baji Quan. However she is still a good character. grin

me too! i was sooooo mad that she doesnt have her Baji Quan style! (do you realize that no one in MKD stand on one foot?) Mi Zong sucks, i think the only reason why they gave her that move is because of the fighting stance (she stick her butt out in the opening for crying out loud!). and also, same here, i always use her "armor" costume. her "bandana" costume is pretty much the same in MKDA but purple and add some armor on her arms. but yeah, im mad furious!
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11/01/2004 02:41 AM (UTC)
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Her 'Mi Zong' style and her 'bandana' outfit is the 2 things that I don't like about her. The rest, I like. wink
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Boon-Smoke
11/01/2004 02:57 AM (UTC)
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I think she sucks in MKD, I liked her much better in MKDA. I thought she was a decent character in MKDA and I was glad when I found out she was returning to MKD. But now after playing her and seeing her lame ending, which happens to be the worst ending ever in MK, I just totally hate her. Sure they might of improved her story, looks, and fighting ability. Mi Zong, though it may be a ridiculous fighting style, is actually very useful. Li Mei is actually a better fighter this time around. I think she may probably be something like a mid tier. But of course there was no need to give her Mi Zong just to improve her fighting. All they really had to do was just make her moves faster and recovery time faster. I think they should have just stuck with Li Mei's beta MKD fighting styles: Baji Quan, Lui He Ba Fa, and Morning Star and just given Havik a sickle since he looks like the Grim Ripper and his real default should be his Grim Ripper custome. The morning star actually fit her perfectly considering her real default custome should really be her armor one since it goes with the story. I think they really ruined this character badly in MKD.
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YingYeung
11/01/2004 03:36 AM (UTC)
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I think her bandana is way better than her armor.... i mean.... purple pants ? Anyway, thats just my opinion...... I LOVE her Kunlun Dao and two styles... I think Mi Zong suits her well; according to the fact thats she's Master Bo'Rai Cho's student. I think her fatalities and hara kiri ARE JUST PLAIN AWESOME...... in MKDA, I hated her fuschia pyjama, and I always used her second outfit....... and i personally think Baji Quan made her look dumb....... life caressing her stomach and hair at the same time made me laugh..... I think Li Mei was improved in EVERY ways: her fighting styles (the sais belong to Mileenawink), her outfits, her face, her powers (she has the same, but the blue shine is a nice touch), her fatalities and now shes among my favs........
Nice ass too.........
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ScorpionKing2003
11/01/2004 03:39 AM (UTC)
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Boon-Smoke Wrote:
I think she sucks in MKD, I liked her much better in MKDA. I thought she was a decent character in MKDA and I was glad when I found out she was returning to MKD. But now after playing her and seeing her lame ending, which happens to be the worst ending ever in MK, I just totally hate her. Sure they might of improved her story, looks, and fighting ability. Mi Zong, though it may be a ridiculous fighting style, is actually very useful. Li Mei is actually a better fighter this time around. I think she may probably be something like a mid tier. But of course there was no need to give her Mi Zong just to improve her fighting. All they really had to do was just make her moves faster and recovery time faster. I think they should have just stuck with Li Mei's beta MKD fighting styles: Baji Quan, Lui He Ba Fa, and Morning Star and just given Havik a sickle since he looks like the Grim Ripper and his real default should be his Grim Ripper custome. The morning star actually fit her perfectly considering her real default custome should really be her armor one since it goes with the story. I think they really ruined this character badly in MKD.

She does not suck, i think you have it twisted in mkda she wasnt all that but in mkd she kicks so much ass. you can do awsome combos with her... as for her ending i dont see anything wrong with her ending... but labeling her ending as the worst in mk series is a joke, there's other characters who has the worst ending in the mk series aka mokap etc. Li Mei Ending was predictable though that was the only downside to her ending. Mi Zong is actually good once you to take the time memorize the moves.....Her outfits are hell alot better than the ones in mkda. but i do agree with you on this Li Mei is actually a better fighter in mkd., She Pretty much owns in this game,
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Garlador
11/01/2004 04:22 AM (UTC)
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I actually like Li Mei, especially her bandana costume. The armor was kinda lame, I thought. She's a tied contender for me against Kitana for hottest MK chick. I hope she's in future games, good or evil. Fatality.
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Libra
11/01/2004 01:54 PM (UTC)
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Boon-Smoke Wrote:
I think she sucks in MKD, I liked her much better in MKDA. I thought she was a decent character in MKDA and I was glad when I found out she was returning to MKD. But now after playing her and seeing her lame ending, which happens to be the worst ending ever in MK, I just totally hate her. Sure they might of improved her story, looks, and fighting ability. Mi Zong, though it may be a ridiculous fighting style, is actually very useful. Li Mei is actually a better fighter this time around. I think she may probably be something like a mid tier. But of course there was no need to give her Mi Zong just to improve her fighting. All they really had to do was just make her moves faster and recovery time faster. I think they should have just stuck with Li Mei's beta MKD fighting styles: Baji Quan, Lui He Ba Fa, and Morning Star and just given Havik a sickle since he looks like the Grim Ripper and his real default should be his Grim Ripper custome. The morning star actually fit her perfectly considering her real default custome should really be her armor one since it goes with the story. I think they really ruined this character badly in MKD.

true, she is better in MKDA, cause only she was fast (her Mi Zong style kinda slowing her down). the only thing i dislike her is because of the sai. and i also agree with you on the Morning Star, it actually suits her with her armor costume (Note: shes not the only girl in the world who has that weapon.....think Hawkgirl). Her ending is pretty interesting IMO. i didnt expected it and who knows, she might be the next sub-boss/boss wink. but i still dont understand why Midway change her costume around. in most of the ending, we saw her in her armor costume and only one scene with her bandana costume. oh well, at least they made her face more prettier grin
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wedgegold
11/01/2004 02:20 PM (UTC)
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She is one of the weaker characters to fight with. So you have to be a little more strategic with her.
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FireMonksPain
11/01/2004 05:11 PM (UTC)
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You are all crazy. She totaly sucked in MKDA. I hated her with a passion. Not a lot of passion but there was passion to be sure. Flash forward to MKD and I'm now totaly in love with her. Her bandanna out fit is way cool. Loads better than her alt. I have no idea what the hell she is wearing on her head in the alt.
wedgegold Wrote:
She is one of the weaker characters to fight with. So you have to be a little more strategic with her.

In Mi Zong an easy back+4 pop up followed by a summersault kick then punch flurry thing gets you a quick easy 38%+. I love Mileena too but I cant get more than 30% no matter what crazy combo I do. In Li mei's starting style her 3,3 kick does good damge and has exceptional range. She has good long range sweeps in both styles. How exactly does a character that is fast, has good range, and causes more damage than alot of other characters end up being one of the "weaker characters?"
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DrCube
11/01/2004 05:57 PM (UTC)
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Just a few general comments:
1) Mi Zong is better than Baji Quan.
2) The "Bandanna" outfit is my favorite because her so-called "armor" dosen't exactly keep everything in place, if you take my meaning.....................
3) I agree that the sais should be Mileena's, but her sword style sucks because it's the same as Reptile's in DA.
4) Story-wise she's better than she was in DA, but still not too great. Her ending was pretty bad and is frankly just a hentai waiting to happen.
5) In short, she's cooler than she used to be, but is still kind of a lame-duck as far as fighting goes.
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somnambulist
11/01/2004 09:29 PM (UTC)
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What is a Melon weapon anyway?? What, was she going to bring out a bunch o watermelons and chuck them at the opponents head? I'v never heard of a Melon as a weapon, only the fruity one.
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Boon-Smoke
11/01/2004 09:34 PM (UTC)
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DrCube Wrote:
Just a few general comments:
4) Story-wise she's better than she was in DA, but still not too great. Her ending was pretty bad and is frankly just a hentai waiting to happen.

That's exactly what I don't like about her ending.
SPOILERS!!
Spoilers: (Highlight to reveal)
She becomes Onaga's queen. I think that was just very lame. The rest of her ending I'm okay with, just not her becoming his queen. A monster and a human, that's just lame. It should be a monster and a monster or human and human. Onaga should of at least turn her to a female dragon before making her his queen. I actually think it would of been better if she took Kitana's place and became Onaga's new body guard, since Kitana is now freed from his spell.
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Libra
11/01/2004 09:42 PM (UTC)
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somnambulist Wrote:
What is a Melon weapon anyway?? What, was she going to bring out a bunch o watermelons and chuck them at the opponents head? I'v never heard of a Melon as a weapon, only the fruity one.

a Melon is the weapon that Havik is using at the moment. i dont know why Midway call it a Melon in the first place.
and also whats weird is that if you highlight "Arcade" on the menu....if you look to the right where they show Scorpion and Sub-Zero fighting....they show a clip of Li Mei vs. Ermac with her Baji Quan style and yet another clip, they show her holding her Melon weapon. again, why bother showing that clip when she doesnt even have the two style?
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Shang_heihachi
11/01/2004 09:55 PM (UTC)
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How did they change li mei at all?
They put what was originally her Alt. costume as her primary costume. Wow...not very dramatic. Her chess piece is still the same if the computer uses her...the computer uses alternate costumes on pieces alot.
As for her style being changed, its because she learned from Bo Rai Cho in the meantime, so she adopted his style. As for it being 'useless'...that's not what I thought when I was beating the shit out of people with it.
And her ending...it sucks? She has one of the best endings in the game. I don't see it becoming a 'hentai'...somehow I doubt Onaga is gonna sprout 5000 tentacles and rape Li Mei with them, lets try to keep perverted fantasies out of MK.
Li Mei is the best she's been. I HATED her in MKDA, because she was nothing but the game's DOA-inspired T&A character. I don't play fighting games to get aroused by the female characters, I play fighting games for the fun of it. If the female characters are great eye candy, then that's fine. If they suck, and their only purpose is eye candy, then I want nothing to do with them. That's why Li Mei's transition from DA to Deception was probably the best. I remember I was very psised to see she was on the Deception roster...now she's one of my favorite characters in the game, period.
You act like the change is bad...they changed li mei for ht ebest.
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Libra
11/01/2004 10:08 PM (UTC)
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Shang_heihachi Wrote:
You act like the change is bad...they changed li mei for ht ebest.

im aware of that, i know. im not talking about her story, its just that, WAY before the game actually came out, we see to many of her in her armor costume. on the select screen and the chess piece. but then all the suddenly, they all changed it. and maybe the reason why they switch the costume around is because everyone got confuse that she might be the DK bodyguard or something in her armor costume. i guess im being a lunatic but oh well.
also, i dont remember fighting or using anyone in there alt. costume in Chess Kombat confused
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11/01/2004 10:20 PM (UTC)
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wedgegold Wrote:
She is one of the weaker characters to fight with. So you have to be a little more strategic with her.

..... no way is that true, I am undefeated with Li Mei online, she's awesome, I suck with about everyone except Nightwolf, Li Mei, and Baraka (but who isn't good with Baraka?) Li Mei has changed for the better, her sword is awesome, she has great special moves and I kick ass with her everytime I use her, she's awesome..... by the way if you dare to challenge me online and I get Li Mei.... run bitch.....
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11/01/2004 10:22 PM (UTC)
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Libra Wrote:
im not complaining (well...i guess i am grin), shes my all time fav. character. she is the best in MKD (in my little world that is) but before the game actually comes out, she was totally different. im not talking about the story, i mean appereance. like.....
1. her primary costume used to be the "armor" costume, but they changed it into her "bandana" costume....why?
2. she used to have her Baji Quan style but they changed it into Bo Rai Cho's useless fighting style, the Mi Zong....why?
3. they also changed her "Melon" weapon into a sword.......this one i can understand.
4. Her chess piece before the game came out was the armor costume. i mean, why bother making it and then trash it away to make a more revealing piece?
i know its not that a big of a deal but i just cant help it but wonder. you know? wink (haha, im a loser, i know)

I might have the answer to a few of them-
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-They wanted her 'cool' costume to be earned
-They had already shown her alternate quite early
-Everybody was saying this was the dragon kings army suit that she was
wearing, they might have wanted to make a distinction between good and
evil i.e. her prim is her good side, her alt is her bad side
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-This would have made her too much like herself in MK:DA
-They wanted to outline her relationship with Bo Rai Cho
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-Maybe because of the name(although it should be called a melon
hammer)
-Havik would look better with it?
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-The change of her prim to alt reflects on this?
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11/01/2004 10:29 PM (UTC)
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Any good Li Mei player would know that Mi Zong is not useless. It's better than her first stance and it's certainly better than her Baji Quan style wich sucked in MKDA. She isn't as bad as she was in MKDA (gameplay wise), because of the style changes. So be happy. ;)
As for the costume changes, it's not the first time it happens. Kung Lao and Kitana in MKDA as well as Noob Smoke and Havik in MKD had their costumes switched around. No big deal.
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EdenianNinja
11/01/2004 11:46 PM (UTC)
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i used to hate li mei, but now i like her look....i havent played with her cuz i suck at Konquest but o well, she looks cool........doesnt beat Mileena tho!
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DrCube
11/02/2004 01:05 AM (UTC)
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Shang_heihachi Wrote:
. I don't see it becoming a 'hentai'...somehow I doubt Onaga is gonna sprout 5000 tentacles and rape Li Mei with them

That's the super unlockable. wink
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somnambulist
11/02/2004 03:25 AM (UTC)
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I think all the armor she wears is part of the soldier corpse that never left her. Soldiers wear armor, so she wears armor. She was tainted by the corpse. Wouldnt it be creepy if Li Mei turned into a corpse. Like the girl in 'the Ring'. Yuck.
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mindripper
11/02/2004 07:58 AM (UTC)
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I think they changed everything about her for the better...
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11/02/2004 04:04 PM (UTC)
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I didn't mind Li Mei having Sai in MKDA, I mean is not that there are only one pair in MK world. lol tongue
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