Well friend, I would do it sooner than later. Just ease your way into the subject the next time you have a conversation. Wait for the right moment, you'll know it when you see it. Be chill about it, girls like a smooth guy. Basically, what I'm trying to tell you is to not be the crying shoulder for too long, or you'll wind up stuck in the friend zone. It's not a bad thing to help her with problems, but if you don't take the initiative soon she will think you don't have feelings for her, and she'll grow more used to the idea of having you as a best friend than a boy friend.


Ladies, you can debate this, but I've found myself in this trap too many times in high school before I wised up. So have many others.

thanks ill be sure to try it next time i chat with heryour right though i dont want the friend zone to long.

dibula pretty much said what I was going to say.
If you don't make a move dude, you'll be stuck in the Friend Zone. That happened to me last year

In my opinion, as a female who gets this sort of thing all the time. The best way to do it is to get them to ask you out instead. It's a natural female quirk, I shamefully admit I fall for it myself. We want what we can't have. Men who are fawning over us, or over-eager to date, become naturally unattractive. Wheras men who treat us well, and flirt, but don't outwardly give the obvious come-on to date, are seductive.

Above all don't attempt to be something you aren't, and change your attitudes or MO around her. Far too many guys do that, and you can always see straight through it when someone isn't being themselves. Don't try too hard, let it come naturally.

Take her to a strip club. Wine her. Dine her. Then tell her the truth...
Wait NO!
But seriously.. tell her sooner than later. You'll KNOW when the time is right..seriously. You'll feel it from your gut. I know how easy it is to shy away from the situation. I'm still like that with girls I like, but I'm a total man whore with others. It's a good feeling you're in now. I miss that. Sex isn't everything lol (wow..did I say that?!) You pretty much gotta be ready to make an ass of yourself anyway when the time comes. It'll be either "now or never". I've found in my past experiences that if you both are hitting it off so well and you feel something then chances are she does, too. Take that chance because either you're gonna risk making an ass of yourself and getting her or you won't and by the time you do it'll be all for nothing. If any of this makes sense.
Good luck, buddy. I really hope it works out for you. That's such a great feeling

Disclaimer: NO...I'm not drinking...at least not for the last couple hours

NEVER DAMN MIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!Her dumb shit friend fucking turned her against me and ive only talked to her for 4 days now!!!!!!Im RAGING PISSED

Don't be pissed.

I can see that's the kind girl who changes their mind a bit too much and takes other people's thoughts into more consideration than her own.
Don't wanna be with a person like that.

Yeah at your age buddy, girls are going to be pretty damn fickle like that. If she's that easy to "be turned against you" then it might not bode well.

My advice at this point is to ask out a close friend of hers that you're attracted too. She sees you interested in dating someone else and it taps into this ridiculous "I want what I can't have" gene that teenage girls have. Definitely don't sweat it though.

Make her a cake.
Bitches love cake.

1.) Don't be pissed
2.) What do you mean by "turned against you"?
3.) Is she gullible or something?
4.) Girls can be so fickle sometimes, I swear

You don't need to get pissed dude, there's plenty of other fish in the sea.

Also, skinsley's post made my weekend.

More importantly your vocabulary and grammar would need vast improvements. Advise as a noun?

Smooth talking is quintessential in solving your problem anyhow.

^My language is fine when i talk to her.But i thought that her friend talked crap about me and that she took me off her FB friends list(no cell phone).But i had a wtf moment this morning when i went through my messages and saw that her page was no longer clickable and she had no pic HER FACE BOOK PROFILE HIS BEEN DELETED so im getting my friend to talk to her and see whats going on(he goes to school with her).so hopefully the air is clear

She's your crush; not his.

Don't let others handle your own problems. You should be comfortable enough to confront her yourself and if you aren't, that's a whole 'nother problem.

I dont live axactly close to her nor do i have any way to contact her now.And hes her friend so thats why hes helping me out im trying my best but its so hard.

Facebook is a REALLY sensitive place. I've been blamed for "fucking around with other people's feelings" for commenting ":)".

Also, girls your age are really that fickle and annoying.

I haven't had a GF for maybe a year now, although I did use to have them. And I'm pretty sure we're around the same age so we can blame the world for the same reason. :) There's only one right now that I'm interested in and she's interested in me. She's just having real problems with her self esteem and I've helped her for a long time now. I'm not sure if we are really in a relationship.

(inb4 "its just ur repulsiveness u weak bitch artemis lol lmao afk")

Describe the situation with more details. Just ask her what is wrong. If there's nothing wrong, later tell her that she's got to turn into her Animality! come see the cool [insert movie] in the movie theater next week. Attitude, brains and nerves recommended.

Girls are just a mess of trouble, my friend.

The intranet is ruining today's young relationships. Back in the day, you had to get yours the natural and in-person way. Now, talk on bookface for 15 minutes and you've got a spouse. But say the wrong thing, and it's over. This leads to less up-front conversations, less real interaction, and more confusion and idiocy.

Although it really just coincides with the fact that most kids these days are stupid, and 99% of "relationships" are just for fun and not love.

In response to the OP, quit screwing around online and tell her straight up how you feel.

You guys gotta keep in mind that the OP is 15 (according to his profile) so some of this advice, while not inherently bad, doesn't take his age into account. He's already said that she doesn't go to his school and he doesn't have her phone number. So the internet (facebook) use made sense at the time. I do agree with others though that you need some real face to face time to feel out if she's interested in you.

My advice to you now is to try and find or create natural situations were you two would be around each other. School dances, a friends party, the mall, football games, anywhere were you and some of her friends and your friends could meet up and chill.

That'll provide a natural non threatening way for you to talk to her and get her number. Try not to filter stuff through your buddy too much in terms of your feelings for her but instead use that mutual friendship to create / participate in scenarios like I described.

Thanks for backing me up here bud.And id like to clear this that just because i am 15 that doesnt make me stupid and another thing quit putting it on me that im giving AAAAAALLLLLLL of my situations to my freind because im not im not stupid thats for you steriotypes on this page.And id like to clear out that right now i have now way of contacting her thats why im getting my friend to talk to her some of you guys are acting like i live right next door to her.I havent asked her for her number yet im trying to take it slow so i dont seem weird.Good grief you guys are treating me so bad by my age your making it seem like im six im not im 15 treat me like i am quit calling me stupid and all that other crap i unlike some guys mature faster so i take it offensive when im turned down by my age jeez back off .

Chill out dillweed, you're the one asking for help. Be thankful you got responses.