Say Good Bye To The Wii
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posted10/28/2013 07:11 PM (UTC)by
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So Nintendo will stop making anything that has to do with the Wii and will now focus on the Wii U.

But that system sucks, and I doubt it'll ever reach the Wii's standards eve with them focusing so hard on it. I like the Wii. It's the first system that my family ever bought for my daddy (he really enjoys playing the bowling and the golfing).

So, thoughts?
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10/22/2013 02:40 PM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
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So Nintendo will stop making anything that has to do with the Wii and will now focus on the Wii U.

But that system sucks, and I doubt it'll ever reach the Wii's standards eve with them focusing so hard on it. I like the Wii. It's the first system that my family ever bought for my daddy (he really enjoys playing the bowling and the golfing).

So, thoughts?


Was with you right up until "But that system sucks". Unless referring to sales figures alone, I'm 100% convinced you have never had the opportunity to play one.

In addition, the Wii U is backwards compatible, so you can still play your Wii games on it. (and after a recent update, you can play your Wii games on the Gamepad if someone's using the TV!)
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10/22/2013 03:38 PM (UTC)
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torchia Wrote:

In addition, the Wii U is backwards compatible, so you can still play your Wii games on it. (and after a recent update, you can play your Wii games on the Gamepad if someone's using the TV!)


But the Wii is backward compatible with the GameCube and as such makes for a cheaper alternative to GameCube users who want to run those games in 480p. As the GameCube component cable is hard as hell to find and expensive as hell at $200 alone.

I never owned a Wii, but I've been considering picking one up for this reason alone.

Looks like better hurry up and pull the trigger If I'm going too.
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10/22/2013 04:11 PM (UTC)
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Kabal20 Wrote:
torchia Wrote:

In addition, the Wii U is backwards compatible, so you can still play your Wii games on it. (and after a recent update, you can play your Wii games on the Gamepad if someone's using the TV!)


But the Wii is backward compatible with the GameCube and as such makes for a cheaper alternative to GameCube users who want to run those games in 480p. As the GameCube component cable is hard as hell to find and expensive as hell at $200 alone.

I never owned a Wii, but I've been considering picking one up for this reason alone.

Looks like better hurry up and pull the trigger If I'm going too.


Be careful. Later Wii models dropped the Gamecube backwards compatibility.
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10/22/2013 04:17 PM (UTC)
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torchia Wrote:
Kabal20 Wrote:
torchia Wrote:

In addition, the Wii U is backwards compatible, so you can still play your Wii games on it. (and after a recent update, you can play your Wii games on the Gamepad if someone's using the TV!)


But the Wii is backward compatible with the GameCube and as such makes for a cheaper alternative to GameCube users who want to run those games in 480p. As the GameCube component cable is hard as hell to find and expensive as hell at $200 alone.

I never owned a Wii, but I've been considering picking one up for this reason alone.

Looks like better hurry up and pull the trigger If I'm going too.


Be careful. Later Wii models dropped the Gamecube backwards compatibility.

I did not know this. interesting so my "Wii" is special.
(I'm sorry for that.)
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10/22/2013 04:19 PM (UTC)
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torchia Wrote:


Be careful. Later Wii models dropped the Gamecube backwards compatibility.


Thanks for clearing that up. I thought I read that somewhere, but wasn't sure. Is there any way to tell?
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10/22/2013 04:42 PM (UTC)
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torchia Wrote:
Was with you right up until "But that system sucks". Unless referring to sales figures alone, I'm 100% convinced you have never had the opportunity to play one.


Sorry to disappoint you, but I have played with a Wii U before. Played one game, New Super Mario Bros. U and I just thought the whole playing pad was just a cheap gimmick for sales. No use for it, I would rather play with a regular Wii controller.

In my opinion, I felt like the Wii didn't need a new system. Granted that Playstation and Xbox constantly updates theirs, I felt this system didn't need one for a very long time. Of course, opinions are opinions no one needs to agree with anything I have to say. But to me, I felt this system was just pointless. There's not that much going with the sales because there's no need to have this giant pad. Companies are also backing out with Nintendo due to the lack of sales, despite that there are some companies that are staying with them. And these exclusives that they have aren't really the kind of games I'd be dying to want to get a Wii U for. I mean, when has Pikmin ever been THAT great of a game where people are dying to get their hands on a third?
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10/22/2013 05:18 PM (UTC)
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Oh crap...I had gotten The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword a long time ago, but I never got to play it due to the need for an accessory to play the game. I haven't really gamed as much as I did when I was younger. >_<
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10/22/2013 05:39 PM (UTC)
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A company stopped supporting their last console after releasing their new console? How is this a surprise? It's not like Sony is still supporting the PS2 or Microsoft still puts out stuff for the Original Xbox, and I'm sure a year or so after the PS3 and XBone come out, the same will happen to the PS3 and 360.
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10/22/2013 06:06 PM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
Sorry to disappoint you, but I have played with a Wii U before. Played one game, New Super Mario Bros. U and I just thought the whole playing pad was just a cheap gimmick for sales. No use for it, I would rather play with a regular Wii controller.

In my opinion, I felt like the Wii didn't need a new system. Granted that Playstation and Xbox constantly updates theirs, I felt this system didn't need one for a very long time. Of course, opinions are opinions no one needs to agree with anything I have to say. But to me, I felt this system was just pointless. There's not that much going with the sales because there's no need to have this giant pad.


You didn't disappoint me, silly. tongue

All I'm saying is that the Wii U has many merits. The Gamepad, which many find gimmicky, is actually a really awesome tool for games. (Granted, New Super Mario Bros. U did not really have a use for it.)

In Wind Waker HD, for example, you can quickly access the item menu and map from the Gamepad, even while sailing, which makes no moment feel dull. Multitasking becomes a natural part of the game.

With ZombiU, you use the gamepad for a plethora of things, like lock-picking and as a zombie radar. The sense of panic you get while trying to do something on the Gamepad but still glancing up at the TV to make sure you're not about to get eaten alive is unparalleled in anything else I've ever played.

NintendoLand does an amazing job showcasing different types of gameplay with the Gamepad. My favorite is Mario Chase, which is a hide-and-seek/tag game. One player has the Gamepad and can see all of the other players, while the other players play on the TV and try to find you. It's a blast sitting around with four other people, and hearing them yell across the living room at each other that your sneaky ass is "In the red zone! No wait, blue! Cut him off! I'm going around! Quick, before he grabs the power star!" That particular style of game wouldn't be possible without the Wii U, and it's definitely something that needs to be experienced.

You also can't forget about the simple little features of the Gamepad that are often looked over (and that I use on a nearly daily basis.)

Being able to control your TV with the Gamepad is flawless. It feels so right navigating through my PVR with a videogame controller. Easy as clicking through a menu in a game.

Simple data entry. Having a touchable keyboard right at your fingertips is fantastic. I hate typing with a control stick, or even a Wii remote.

Off-TV play. I don't know about you, but I constantly bicker with my significant other when she wants to watch some dumb TV show about weddings (is there a hint I'm missing?) and I want to play videogames. It is so incredibly amazing, being able to push a button, and continue playing game when I inevitably lose the argument. But it's not only that. Sometimes it's nice to play a mindless game, and also listen to the TV in the background. I can not only do both, but when I want to change the channel, I can do so without even putting down the Gamepad. It's so seamless.

Oh, and we can't forget about the best feature of all. Just the other day, I was playing a game while pooping. WHILE POOPING. No longer will petty bathroom breaks keep me from saving the princess.

I'm not putting the console on a pedestal, either. I'm well aware it is flawed. The name, for starters. Whether Nintendo thinks so or not, consumers are still confused about the Wii U. Moving the Gamepad around as a camera Wind Waker HD, or as a scope in Zombi U is definitely shakey and mildly annoying (luckily both these games allow you to use the control stick instead), and I can see how that may be considered gimmicky. Also crazy Nintendo decisions like not including online play in Mario Bros. U or NintendoLand, for example, baffle me. The OS was slow for the first few months (but has been sped up with recent updates), and the downloads can take quite some time (I'm not talking PS3 or PSVita download times, but still. Also, this was worked around in a recent update, where your system will now periodically check for updates when you're not using it, and download them then.) But for the most part, I'm quite satisfied with my purchase.

To say the Wii didn't need a successor seems strange to me. Nintendo's jump into HD is reason enough to get this console. Many games still support the Wiimotes you've come to love (Pikmin 3, you sexy bitch, I'm looking at you), and like I said before, there's still Wii backwards compatibility, so you can continue to play some of your old favorites.
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10/22/2013 06:12 PM (UTC)
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torchia Wrote:
In addition, the Wii U is backwards compatible, so you can still play your Wii games on it. (and after a recent update, you can play your Wii games on the Gamepad if someone's using the TV!)

I did not know this, that's awesome!

Icebaby Wrote:
Sorry to disappoint you, but I have played with a Wii U before. Played one game, New Super Mario Bros. U and I just thought the whole playing pad was just a cheap gimmick for sales. No use for it, I would rather play with a regular Wii controller.

I hate to be that guy, but NSMBU is the only game you've played? I feel like you should really try a different game...

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Oh crap...I had gotten The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword a long time ago, but I never got to play it due to the need for an accessory to play the game. I haven't really gamed as much as I did when I was younger. >_<

The Wii Motion Plus controller is still used as a Wii U peripheral, so you probably don't need to worry about that
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10/22/2013 06:20 PM (UTC)
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Jironobou Wrote:
torchia Wrote:In addition, the Wii U is backwards compatible, so you can still play your Wii games on it. (and after a recent update, you can play your Wii games on the Gamepad if someone's using the TV!)

I did not know this, that's awesome!


Unfortunately, though, the Wii mode will ONLY accept input from Wii devices, like Wii Remotes and the Classic controller, so playing Donkey Kong Country Returns on the Gamepad ALONE won't work. I'm sure Nintendo is working on a fix for that, though.

Still the feature works well if, like I said, someone is using the TV. The Gamepad has a built in sensor bar for the Wii Remotes.
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10/22/2013 06:56 PM (UTC)
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I guess it's just a matter of opinion, I really found no use for it and I'm not really the kind of person that likes to play handheld games. (Hence why I thought the pad was just a gimmicky piece of crap)

But also, one game probably isn't enough to make someone realize something or not, but to me, ehh... that's kinda how I am with games. But it's not like that I wasn't watching others play, I was and I just didn't like what I was seeing. When getting a chance to play it, I just didn't like it.

Of course, systems are going to get upgraded to a better one, I just felt like the Wii wasn't done yet thus me saying it didn't need the Wii U yet.
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10/22/2013 07:25 PM (UTC)
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Good riddance.

Always hated the Wii.
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10/22/2013 07:44 PM (UTC)
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torchia Wrote:

You also can't forget about the simple little features of the Gamepad that are often looked over (and that I use on a nearly daily basis.).


I still think the gamepad is a gimmick. Both Sony and MS have shown that 99% of Wii-U's gamepad functionality can be replicated with a smartphone or tablets. And what can't be, both MS and Sony are offering better alternatives IMO. MS is offer better tv integration with XBO and Sony is offering better cross gameplay with the PSVita.

It's still no excuse for a lackluster network infrastructure and old hardware by today's standards. The only thing Nintendo has going for it is it's IP's. Investors have commented that if it wasn't for Nintendo's IPs, they wouldn't be doing any better than new startup companies into the market.
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10/22/2013 08:09 PM (UTC)
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I'm not too big on either of the eighth generation consoles, so I don't plan on converting any time soon.

I will most likely stick to the PS3 and Wii until Mortal Kombat 10 is released. Right now, that game is the only thing that will get me to buy any eighth generation console.

As for the Wii U sucking, I can't say too much because I haven't played one yet, but for what I saw, I'm not too pleased. If I can play the Wii U with a Wii controller, then I will probably invest in a Wii U sooner than I'd expect. If not, I will probably never get one.

The Wii is truly one of the greatest advancements in home gaming. There really isn't much else beyond it. The moment the Wii was announced, back when it was known as Nintendo Revolution, I had said to myself, "I wonder how Nintendo is going to top this later down the line?" Honestly, I don't think it's possible.


To say, I've never completely understood the point of advancing from a good console. If the console that exists is already good, why make a new one? Why not just stick with what you have and update accordingly? I could understand the necessity for advancements back in the golden age of home gaming, but now, we've reached a point to where home gaming can only go so far in being "revolutionary."

I'd rather Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft stick to the good they have and fix only what's broken (Xbox Live), instead of getting rid of a good thing for something that probably can't replace it. But of course, that will never happen.

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10/22/2013 11:09 PM (UTC)
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The Gamepad has a built in sensor bar for the Wii Remotes.

Did not know that either, but the only game I have for the Wii is Skyward Sword at the moment (Only because the Metroid Prime Trilogy is expensive and rare and stuff).
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10/23/2013 03:01 AM (UTC)
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Kabal20 Wrote:
torchia Wrote:
Be careful. Later Wii models dropped the Gamecube backwards compatibility.

Thanks for clearing that up. I thought I read that somewhere, but wasn't sure. Is there any way to tell?

Though I might be wrong, only the Wii Minis no longer play GC games. And also don't go online for some stupid reason... I'm definitely looking into getting a used Wii, though. Held out for way too long on it.
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10/23/2013 03:38 AM (UTC)
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As the GameCube component cable is hard as hell to find and expensive as hell at $200 alone.

And here I am working for my old job again that sells alot of these for 15 bucks lol
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10/23/2013 01:10 PM (UTC)
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R.I.P Wii.

You were the second best Gamecube I ever owned.
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10/23/2013 02:16 PM (UTC)
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Jerrod Wrote:
Kabal20 Wrote:
torchia Wrote:
Be careful. Later Wii models dropped the Gamecube backwards compatibility.

Thanks for clearing that up. I thought I read that somewhere, but wasn't sure. Is there any way to tell?

Though I might be wrong, only the Wii Minis no longer play GC games. And also don't go online for some stupid reason... I'm definitely looking into getting a used Wii, though. Held out for way too long on it.


You're incorrect.



The original Wii console was advertised standing vertically and had Gamecube support.



The revised (and price cut) Wiis were advertised as sitting horizontally. This is the same time they cut Gamecube support.



The Wii Mini (that not all users here may know, Jerrod, as it was only released for us Canadians) you are correct on. It was a very limited and inexpensive Wii that strictly played Wii games and did not have internet capabilities or Gamecube support of any kind.

So basically, check the Wii to see if it is advertised as sitting or standing. Both can be used either way, but it's all in the way they were presented at the time. You'll notice a "Gamecube Wii" has the "Wii" logo facing right-side-up when the console is set vertically. The "Non-Gamecube Wii" has the "Wii" logo facing right-side-up when the console is laying flat. That is the perfect tell.

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10/23/2013 08:07 PM (UTC)
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And I finally just got my Wii, ah well. Why would they take away Gamecube compatibility? That seems backwards.
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10/23/2013 08:20 PM (UTC)
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phishstix17 Wrote:
And I finally just got my Wii, ah well. Why would they take away Gamecube compatibility? That seems backwards.


The Gamecube stopped being popular (even though the Gamecube wasn't really all that popular to begin with, although it should have been. Amazing console), and so they stopped supporting it. It allowed them to cut the price of the Wii.

Besides, clearly it wasn't that big of a deal at the time. Nobody even knew about it, clearly.
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10/24/2013 01:38 AM (UTC)
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According to game informer, the Wii will only be discontinued in Japan. It is still going to be manufactured for most other territories...for now.

I personally think this should have happened for all territories. If they want to put an end to the confusion(for the average consumer), the best way to do that would be to chop off the dead leg(or in this case, the least desired appendage), and move forward with the Wii U.
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10/24/2013 02:57 AM (UTC)
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I think the Wii- U is much better than the wii, technology and feature wise even though the good games are slowly but surely coming. Its only an improvement. I did enjoy the wii but I think the gamecube was much better. The remote looking controller wont live past this current generation I think. Its kind of sad but all systems get discountinued. I got to admit that they stopped making things for the Wii a little earlier than I thought they would though.
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