What is love? Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me...
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posted04/30/2004 07:16 PM (UTC)by
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Okay I appologize for the random splurge of threads, I blacked out there for a bit. Not sure what happened.

But on a relatively more acceptable topic, I'd simply like for everyone's opinion on love. Give definitions, experiences, whatever. And I don't mean just between a man and a woman, I'm talking about love for a family member, a pet, a hobby, whatever. What is true love, and what sets it apart from lust, obsession, and passion. Are they interconnected, or must they remain seperate for it to be love? And furthermore, what effect does beauty have on love? The two always seem so related, yet are they really?

Answer or die.
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ShingoEX
04/30/2004 02:51 AM (UTC)
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I'll let you know if it happens, but thus far, it sure seems both convoluted and overrated.
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Hyuga
04/30/2004 03:23 AM (UTC)
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True love means doing anything for somebody, no matter what the consequences. Not caring about anything else. It's, most assuredly, quite good.
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04/30/2004 04:09 AM (UTC)
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Everything I've ever known of love was pain.
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MKSECRETS
04/30/2004 04:25 AM (UTC)
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Love is many things:

-Doing/sacrificing anything for that one person

-Loving that person more than life itself

-Not being in total control of yourself or your actions when you're with this person or when you're simply thinking about that person

-Not eating or sleeping for days (whether the relationship is fine or bad)

-Putting that person's needs in front of yours...no matter the cost

-REAL love means still loving that person (no matter how much that person hurt you) for years after things ended

-Love means knowing when to let go

-Love means being able to look into a person's eyes and seeing their soul


I'll return later with more.

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04/30/2004 04:29 AM (UTC)
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That subject title is creepy, considering I'm recording vocals on a goth/idustrial cover of that song tonight.
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Hyuga
04/30/2004 04:30 AM (UTC)
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Your post is the best post ever. I love you, Jonin.
MKSECRETS Wrote:
Love is many things:

-Doing/sacrificing anything for that one person

-Loving that person more than life itself

-Not being in total control of yourself or your actions when you're with this person or when you're simply thinking about that person

-Not eating or sleeping for days (whether the relationship is fine or bad)

-Putting that person's needs in front of yours...no matter the cost

-REAL love means still loving that person (no matter how much that person hurt you) for years after things ended

-Love means knowing when to let go

-Love means being able to look into a person's eyes and seeing their soul


I'll return later with more.


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MKSECRETS
04/30/2004 04:47 AM (UTC)
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Quirk Wrote:
That subject title is creepy, considering I'm recording vocals on a goth/idustrial cover of that song tonight.


Back when that song first came out (I believe I was in 6th or 7th grade), I considered that Haddaway song the worst song I had ever heard.

My opinion has yet to change.

P.S. Dammit Hyuga, you're supposed to love ME. ME!! Not Jonin sad

/me goes to a corner to come up with more sad stuff love is
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04/30/2004 09:54 AM (UTC)
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Hyuga Wrote:
True love means doing anything for somebody, no matter what the consequences. Not caring about anything else. It's, most assuredly, quite good.



I wish I could really fall in love with a girl.
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Omega Supreme
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04/30/2004 10:14 AM (UTC)
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Hmm ShadowSong I didn't know that Haddaway was known in Canada as well.

Now anyway. What is love?

Love can come in many forms. To me, friendship is a form of love because simply put, I love my friends, I care about their feelings and thoughts and would do a lot for them. Of course, there's is also the romantic kind of love. Like MKS described this can be an all-consuming blaze of passion and self-sacrifice but I'm afraid that such love will almost always lead to self-destruction. To me, love is respecting one another as a person (and that sounds much simpler than it is for many people...) while maintaining a healthy balance of power in the relationship.

Oh and being in love doesn't really count as love for me. Neither do flirting and one night stands. The former is often the projection of an ideal, the latter is lust or ego-tripping.

And yes, I do think that love and lust are in fact interconnected. No girl turns me on more than my girlfriend...

Cheers,
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supertim1
04/30/2004 03:36 PM (UTC)
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love is pain, on so many levels, a breakup is painfull especially if lots of time and effort were put into the relationship, and if for arguments sake the relationship worked out, then inevitably one of the two lovers would die first and after living with the other for (insert number) years and realizing they are gone forever never o be seen again, is in plain english a fucking bitch. But alas most of us will go through this god-willed form of punishment. Yeah... dont mind me.................
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kitana4ever
04/30/2004 04:10 PM (UTC)
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I was lucky enough to have been in love once. It was an amazing thing. Everday it gave me butterflies in my stomach. My heart would beat faster, and slower at the same time when I would see him. I was at a loss for words which is a very rare occurence for me. I gave him my all every single day. And then he cheated on me. But I never stopped loving him. I don't believe you can ever just stop loving someone. I think its either you do, or you dont. Therefore I think its farely evident that he never loved me in return.

After that happened I went through this whole phase where I was convinced that I wasn't worth anyone's love, because nobody has ever shown that they truly loved me. (I'm not including family, or friends because its not the kind of love that I'm talking about). I think on some levels my heart is still scarred from what he did to me, but in the long run I believe its made me stronger.

When it comes to lust I think its pretty obvious that the emphasis is more on the physical than the emotional. When I was in love, the physical never played a role with me. Now you can say, "Oh thats because you're a girl." Thats not the case. I get just as horny as guys do sometimes, but when I was with him, sex rarely crossed my mind. All I wanted to do was feel his arms around me, kiss him, and look into his eyes. And he admitted wanting to do the same with me.

I think whether or not beauty plays a role in love is completely up to the eye of the beholder. If appearance is a major factor in being with someone for a certain person, then beauty and love do go hand in hand. For me, yes looks play a role, but the most important thing for me is someone who can make me laugh. Someone who can comfort me and make me feel safe and secure. If he happens to be very good looking, its just an added bonus.

Love isn't selfish, or boastful. It isn't full of pride. It just is. It's an unconditional urge to make someone else happy. To be with someone and make their day a little brighter. Love can be painful, but so can so many other things in life. Love is beautiful in every color of the spectrum that it comes in. And I can't wait to experience it again.
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04/30/2004 04:35 PM (UTC)
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Kitana4ever Wrote:
After that happened I went through this whole phase where I was convinced that I wasn't worth anyone's love, because nobody has ever shown that they truly loved me. (I'm not including family, or friends because its not the kind of love that I'm talking about). I think on some levels my heart is still scarred from what he did to me, but in the long run I believe its made me stronger.

I know what you mean there...I don't know if I can say I've ever actually been in love, or if it was just infatuation, or what have you; but when something happened that made it obvious that I had lost any chance I might have had with a girl I loved (or thought I loved) I was always afraid to let go because I would feel like she was the only girl I could ever love. But in the end, when I finally do let go, I always feel like I've learned something from it, even if it was painful.
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Omega Supreme
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04/30/2004 07:16 PM (UTC)
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No, feelings can change. Love is not a fixed feeling.

I don't love my exes anymore, even though I used to love them. Although admittedly, I didn't love them as much as my current girlfriend. If she was to leave me, I'd probably kill myself or become a monk.

Cheers,
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