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posted10/20/2012 12:40 AM (UTC)by
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saiZero
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09/13/2010 11:11 PM (UTC)


I wanted to make a custom background kinda from scratch using some new techniques. its shang tsungs garden. I know its not my best but I. Wanted to do more than copy and paste props from MK
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balkcsiaboot
10/17/2012 04:32 PM (UTC)
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Oh no... no, no, no, no, NO-NO-NO! This is not what I was referring to when I said "merge" elements in your background. All you did was make random garbage from Google Images transparent on a background and used the smudge tool and prayed that it would look good. It doesn't. In fact, it's terrible. Your copy-paste jobs with MK props were better. Why? Because you actually edited them (for example your first fake's Warrior Shrine was practically flawless).

The grass leaves are okay, but obvious pre-rendered tubes from paint shop pro. I would know, I used them when creating an Easter e-Card. Ha!

You did a really bad job with the glowing green effect too. I can still see the white lines on Goro. THIS is where you use a new layer to erase that white trash (lol) so the glow remains only on the outer part of Goro's sprite. Now he just looks like the Hulk who took a bath in nuclear waste.

This fake is overall a good concept but boring. It's really hard to do a Shang Tsung soul steal fatality and keep it original because it's been done over and over and over and over and over again. I would know...

Once
...Twice
......Thrice
.........Then this
............fatality
...............just got
..................really old...
.....................but I still did it again

So don't be as stupid as I was (and apparently still am). I know there aren't many poses for MK1 Shang Tsung... so I guess you were limited. I told you that MK1 fakes would not be easy. At least you listened to me once, but I see not again. I will PM you with more suggestions about making this fake a bit more... "original" and give you ideas on how to use what MK gives you to make a better background than this. I know you can do better. You are not advanced enough to make backgrounds from scratch. Not even I am.

1/5... like, seriously. You got a 1 because of the life bars.

EDIT:

The sad part is I just found FOUR MORE fucking soul steal fatalities:
One
Two
Three
Four
So if you really want to redo this fatality and make it better, be my guest... but I don't know how exactly you will achieve this because I've beaten that horse into a bloody pulp... Prove me wrong!
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saiZero
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10/17/2012 07:45 PM (UTC)
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Hehehe that's a lot of soul steals grin

1/5??? confused
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Icebaby
10/17/2012 10:27 PM (UTC)
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I hope you don't mind critiques coming from a user who doesn't really create "fakes."

Your background just seems too odd with fading trees and cartoony blades coming out from the ground. Comparing it to the MK1 sprites, they seem too out of place.

Goro does look like he was dipping in some vat of nuclear waste and the effects coming out of Shang's hands just seem too botchy.

Meh, that's all.
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UltimateRyu
10/18/2012 08:01 PM (UTC)
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Yes, we have yet to see a good soul steal fake. The ones posted in this thread are proof. However don't let the pompous and self righteous deter you. That is how we lost the spark in the first place.
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saiZero
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10/18/2012 08:13 PM (UTC)
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UltimateRyu Wrote:
Yes, we have yet to see a good soul steal fake. The ones posted in this thread are proof. However don't let the pompous and self righteous deter you. That is how we lost the spark in the first place.


Just bcuz u have personal problems with BS doesn't mean u have to disregard his talent like an arrogant prick all the time. U are the last person id ever find inspiratiion from, ultimateryu. BS may have an ego, but rightfuly so. Same goes for Veno. And at least they are the only ones here who actually give good criticism unlike your trolling ass.

Talk about my fake or plz GTFO. If u only enjoy being here to insult ppl then PM them instead being annoying to EVERYONE.
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UltimateRyu
10/18/2012 08:39 PM (UTC)
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I referenced your fake but didn't have much to say about since it was already said. Just keep trying.
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VenoMark
10/18/2012 10:20 PM (UTC)
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Alright, alright; I'll stop procrastinating and get to reviewing this thing. Seeing as how this is your first attempt at producing a custom background, I'll try to be a lot less critical and, in turn, a bit more advisable.

I'm impressed by your boldness to take on a painstaking task such as this, but the process appears to have been rushed. That said, I'll offer a few suggestions that should aid in your improvement in the long run. First of all, it would've been wise to provide some shading to some of the blades of grass to give the impression of depth.

Secondly, the trees in the background were clearly copied and pasted from either a computer-generated scene or a photograph. That is something that I and many others frown upon, as it is blatant plagiarism of someone else's work with no credit given to the designer of the exploited reference image. I speak from experience when I say that producing your own background props is an exasperating process. In the end, however, you'll feel a lot more fulfilled (and people will appreciate the effort a lot more) once you are capable of designing your own props.

Lastly, the sky should never engulf the background to the degree that this one does. Ultimately, it diverts attention away from the rest of the image and, in this case, to such a degree that it proves difficult to focus on the backdrop as a whole.

Perfecting these things takes time (trust me, I know), but you seem to be able to take advice and run with it so I figure that all you really require is a nudge in the right direction. I have faith in your ability and your open-mindedness, qualities that all of my own proteges have possessed. I'm hoping that this critique was beneficial to you by some means, because I can assure you that I appreciate your interest in my creative wisdom.
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VenoMark
10/18/2012 10:21 PM (UTC)
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UltimateFailure Wrote:
Yes, we have yet to see a good soul steal fake. The ones posted in this thread are proof. However don't let the pompous and self righteous deter you. That is how we lost the spark in the first place.


This is coming from the most unjustifiably arrogant and laughably untalented user to ever blight the artistic community. You're the shit-stain of the industry, and will continue to be such until you acquaint yourself with a little something I like to call "talent". I'll assume you were implicating yourself when you referred to the "pompous and self-righteous". It's certainly fitting, even if your narcissism is an attempt at compensation for your lack of maturity.

You have no idea as to how many users blame you, specifically, for this industry taking such a huge hit when I went on hiatus. I selflessly take part of that blame, because I was steadily chasing off your artistically incompetent ass until I went on that unexpected hiatus. Your unintelligibly jumbled submissions are impressive only to the likes of you and the artistically naive.

I don't like diverting attention away from a user's thread, but someone needs to figuratively bitch-slap the over-compensating nuisance that UltimateRyu is and, apparently, always will be. Otherwise, he's going to continue to inanely pester individuals who are notably more respected than he. I suppose that when one realizes that one's only contribution to society is to serve as the laughing stock of a specific community, one has to make as meticulous an effort as possible to ensure that said status is preserved. Until he mans the fuck up and accepts his faults, he'll continue to be a whimpering, prepubescent little bitch. That is all.
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UltimateRyu
10/18/2012 10:47 PM (UTC)
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Very ironic coming from someone who trolls MKO personal inboxes with hate mail. You're always on the defensive. Not just with me, everyone. These just go to show your lack of character. Step it up or get out of the fire.
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balkcsiaboot
10/18/2012 10:54 PM (UTC)
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Take it to the PMs before saiZero PMS's and pwns everyone all at once.
BACK TO THE FAKE, GENTS!



Good advice Veno. Good advice. We'll see what the revision will be like.
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saiZero
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10/19/2012 12:49 PM (UTC)
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Thanks veno. smile

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balkcsiaboot
10/19/2012 11:12 PM (UTC)
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Why the FUCK am I being skulled?
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UltimateRyu
10/20/2012 12:40 AM (UTC)
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Playing with fire will get you burned!!! Bring on the next FPK!!
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