My Mortal Kombat III M.U.G.E.N. concepts - Shang and Skarlet
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posted03/15/2008 05:41 PM (UTC)by
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XTREEMIST
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For now all I am doing is collecting sprites, coming up with ideas, and trying to learn MUGEN. Once I familiarize myself enough I'll actually be starting on my game. Right now it's just breaking things down.
Shang Tsung
Special Moves:
Single Flaming Skull
Double Flaming Skull
Triple Flaming Skull

Quadruple Flaming Skull

Rising Flame Skulls

Health Drain

Fatalities:
Soul Steal

Inner Ear

Ermac Who?

Basically he morphs into Ermac, and slams the opponent into the spikes again and again.
Before each match, Shang Tsung starts out as his old self. While the announcer is initiating the fight, he will morph into his younger self. Why? Because I like the idea and it will give the player an extra something to look at. He's "powering up" before the round in a sense.

After a round that ShangTsung loses, as he falls he will morph back into his old self. Because he lost, I suppose it shows a sign of him becoming weaker... I suppose the MKA intro movie inspired this idea. The morphing animation will not happen everytime he is knocked down however. Nor will it happen if a fatality is performed on Shang (for obvious reasons).

ShangTsung morphs into his old self during his quadruple fireballs because I wanted to make it seem like shooting that many fireballs at once would drain his energy and because I wanted to give it a different effect. I am not sure which sprite position I should give Shang Tsung for his 1-3 fireballs (with the Knee up to resemble MK3 Shang or just leave it as is).
Please feel free to give me your thoughts and give your reasons. Afterall when (and if - hopefuly not too long) I get this game released (full version or not) you all and the other members of the MUGEN community are going to be testing/playing it hopefuly. I know my morph sprites are a little crude... I'll probably work on those more when I actually start making my characters and building up the game.
The only thing really slowing my progress down is the fact I am in college and computer science is never easy. This summer I will definitely get cracking on my project. By then I should have more to show you than just concept "fake pictures." Thanks again.
Skarlet
Special Moves:
Boomerang Throw
Air Boomerang Throw

Back Flip Kick
Teleport Kick
Ground Roll

Star Blade & High/Low attack

Fatalities:??????? I have no idea yet!!!
Because I am remaking MK3 and not UMK3, I didn't bother putting in Mileena/Kitana/Jade. Rather, I put in Skarlet who adapts some moves from each of those 3 women (like Khameleon but not as boring).
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Wat.
03/12/2008 08:44 PM (UTC)
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Interesting concepts. Hopefully you can integrate them effectively into M.U.G.E.N.
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illu§ion
03/12/2008 09:12 PM (UTC)
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Awesome post. I agree with MKRocket 100%. Best of luck.
Those are some nice ideas. I really like the old/young Shang idea.



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ThaReal
03/12/2008 11:44 PM (UTC)
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Yeah the shang idea isn't bad but u should work on post mk 3 chars would be cooler like me im working on a perfect quan chi using kano mk3 it looks even better than my sareena but not by much....... Oh yeah i almost forgot youtube has a few vids of fighter factory shows how to use the tools to make mugen projects
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XTREEMIST
03/13/2008 12:16 AM (UTC)
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ThaReal Wrote:
Yeah the shang idea isn't bad but u should work on post mk 3 chars would be cooler like me im working on a perfect quan chi using kano mk3 it looks even better than my sareena but not by much.......
Oh yeah i almost forgot youtube has a few vids of fighter factory shows how to use the tools to make mugen projects


Dude you should post some screens and such. I'd love to check that shit out.
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ThaReal
03/13/2008 12:23 AM (UTC)
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so u see my shiznt or what....i had a ton more but my HD crash'd so in rebuilding process so gotta get new account for showin my work
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XTREEMIST
03/13/2008 12:28 AM (UTC)
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ThaReal Wrote:
so u see my shiznt or what....i had a ton more but my HD crash'd so in rebuilding process


Yeah I got your PM's (lol... pms) and I looked at Maggo's thread. I had no idea so many people were actively involved in their own MUGEN project. I feel like I'm ripping off everyone's ideas and not even knowing it.
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ThaReal
03/13/2008 12:34 AM (UTC)
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you're not ripping it off just keep at it
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illu§ion
03/13/2008 12:44 AM (UTC)
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Edited. Damn I can't seem to get this stupid quote thing code right.

But anyways...

XTREEMIST, I believe I'm waiting for your PM to hopefully one day partake in the mugen project festivities people got going on here. wink
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Maggo
03/13/2008 01:27 AM (UTC)
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What program did you use for the morphing effect?
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XTREEMIST
03/13/2008 01:35 AM (UTC)
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PaintShop Pro 9.0
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Maggo
03/13/2008 01:38 AM (UTC)
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Well you answered half of my question.
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XTREEMIST
03/13/2008 01:39 AM (UTC)
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Well that's the program............. confused what else did you want to know? how I did it?
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ThaReal
03/13/2008 02:03 AM (UTC)
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as it goes for ur pm question illusion u need FIGHTER FACTORY then u need a mugen project xzisting or new then go on YOUTUBE watch the tutorial vids an go from there....
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Maggo
03/13/2008 02:21 AM (UTC)
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Stupid me. What tool did you use for the morping effect??? I thought I asked that, but I double checked, & I did not. Oops!
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fedegita
03/13/2008 07:45 AM (UTC)
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Very nice work so far. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help
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XTREEMIST
03/13/2008 08:27 AM (UTC)
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Maggo Wrote:
Stupid me. What tool did you use for the morping effect??? I thought I asked that, but I double checked, & I did not. Oops!


A combination of "Image Arithmetic" and using layers with different levels of opacity.
It's not perfect, so I will be redoing the morphs and doing a little pencil editing to make them look smoother (because they're not that great looking if I preview the animation as a GIF).

Basically, layer 1 is MK1 Shang Tsung and layer 2 is MK2 Shang Tsung. You change the opacity according to who you want morphing into who. Go through and edit the extra clothing so it "fits" inside the right sprite. The way I've done it so far, as seen above, isn't going to be the final version for reasons already explained.
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XTREEMIST
03/13/2008 08:29 AM (UTC)
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fedegita Wrote:
Very nice work so far. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help


I'm not all that familiar with you who are and what you're capable of doing... but sure! smile wink
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03/13/2008 07:53 PM (UTC)
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XTREEMIST Wrote:

I'm not all that familiar with you who are and what you're capable of doing... but sure! smile wink


He's quite capable. Trust me.
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XTREEMIST
03/14/2008 01:31 PM (UTC)
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Thanks for all your replies and what not... I would have been more active lately but im visiting my GF for spring break ... but everytime I get a chance at the computer at her house it says I am banned. now I am at her grandma's house but I am not banned...
something is messed up with the banned IPs to this forum......... confused
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03/14/2008 02:22 PM (UTC)
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XTREEMIST Wrote:
something is messed up with the banned IPs to this forum......... confused

Is it possible that you made a clone account at your gf's house that was banned? That's the only thing I could think of, as you seem to have a lot of them under your belt.
Welcome back blacksaibot. smile
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illu§ion
03/14/2008 03:07 PM (UTC)
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dun...dun...dun...
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XTREEMIST
03/14/2008 03:13 PM (UTC)
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Jerrod Wrote:
XTREEMIST Wrote:
something is messed up with the banned IPs to this forum......... confused

Is it possible that you made a clone account at your gf's house that was banned? That's the only thing I could think of, as you seem to have a lot of them under your belt.
Welcome back blacksaibot. smile


Crow said he squared that mix up already.
My entire university was banned from MKO and he said he fixed that for me. I literally couldn't sign in on my campus which makes no sense. That's an ass load of IPs to be banning for one user. And that wouldnt make sense, my GF hasn't lived in that apartment for more than 8 months and it's my first time visiting her. The only thing I can see a problem is if the banning system bans an entire subdomain instead of a specific IP and blacksaibot (who's also at gamespot BTW) has been hopping around the entire east coast using every IP he could find.

He (Crow) also said in an email he ban reason for my IP(s) were
"balkcsiaboot clone = blacksaibot clone."
Not "blacksaibot clone = Xtreemist clone"
And Im sure I do have more than one account under my IP because I thought my username was banned/deactivated for my inactivity over the past couple of months to a year, or perhaps I cussed too much in the past (which gamespot would agree with). After I wasn't able to sign in my account I created around Jan/Feb I realized it was my IP that was banned rather than just "Xtrreemist" and decided to email banreview (which I guess is the same as Crow).
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03/14/2008 05:19 PM (UTC)
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XTREEMIST's true identity revealed.


Eh, wow. Why did I have a feeling it was you? I don't mean that in a bad way, just to be specific.

Heh.
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