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01/10/2019 10:10 PM EST
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Now I know the idea of a guest character, especially one that was already in a game, fills you all with an undying rage. However, allow me to suggest a few reasons why Freddy might be a reasonable guest.

1. MKX Blew Its Load/General Audience Recognition

MKX had a great guest roster -Jason, Leatherface, a Predator, and a Xenomorph. All very recognizable characters. The problem MK11 now faces is the balance between which characters they can license and which characters are easily recognizable to the general public. A lot of purists around here may not like it, but the "hey did you hear?!" factor sells a lot of games. Being able to gut a Xenomorph as Leatherface has a definite appeal to folks who've never played a Mortal Kombat game.

Now, obviously, there remain a number of horror icons not yet included, Michael Myers being the prime example. However, I'd argue that the number is a little lower than most of us might think. I'd say there's a bit of an overlap between MK fans and horror fans, so the casual appeal of certain horror characters may not be as strong as many of us may think. I would contend that beloved genre characters -Ash Williams for example- may not be as generally well known or marketable as previous guests. There remains, however, Freddy Krueger.

2. MK9 Has Faded Into Memory/ Its Freddy Wasn't Freddy

It'll have been 8 years and 3 NetherRealm games between MK9 and MK11. While MK9 was a saving grace, things have certainly changed post Injustice and MKX. Freddy being in MK feels like ages ago. Similarly, while people certainly remember Freddy Krueger, they don't remember THAT Freddy Krueger. MK9, likely in an agreement with the studio, modeled their Freddy after the damn remake Freddy. That leads me to my final point.

3. Robert Englund.

NetherRealm got Robert Englund for Scarecrow - an amazing get. At the same time, Englund has been publicly flirting with the idea of returning to the role of Freddy Krueger. In the age of 80s nostalgia, having the original Freddy as DLC would be a huge marketing opportunity if they have that possibility.

In the end, I'm not saying "FREDDY KONFIRMED!!!1!" or even that I want him in game. What I'm really getting at is that Freddy kind of makes sense, I wouldn't be surprised, and I wouldn't be upset with NetherRealm for making the decision.

Thoughts?

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01/10/2019 11:05 PM EST

he is in mkx mobile just saying........ i would love the classic robert englund freddy . wouldnt be to hard since he did voice work for scarecrow in injustice 2

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01/11/2019 06:06 AM EST

Great analysis. Freddy is one of my favorite characters of all time and I'd be one of the very few who'd be estatic to see him return (especially if it's original Englund Krueger.)

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01/11/2019 11:32 AM EST

No thanks. To me, filling roster space with characters who have no canonical place in the MK plot is a complete waste. Reintroducing, in my opinion, the most boring guest character of the past two installments would be more of a waste than it was in MK9. I'd much rather some rumored characters (Hornbuckle, Nimbus Terrafaux, even Zebron) make their mark in the canon of the series. Or, I'd rather that more substance be injected into the background of previous "guest" characters (Tremor and Skarlet, for example). Freddy had his time in the limelight and it was dull and, thankfully, short-lived.

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01/11/2019 11:58 AM EST

Damn it, that would be amazing. The fact that MK9 Freddy was clearly remake Freddy is really my only complaint about his appearance. And having Englund on board to properly bring him to life would ABSOLUTELY be worth the double dip.

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No thanks. To me, filling roster space with characters who have no canonical place in the MK plot is a complete waste. Reintroducing, in my opinion, the most boring guest character of the past two installments would be more of a waste than it was in MK9. I'd much rather some rumored characters (Hornbuckle, Nimbus Terrafaux, even Zebron) make their mark in the canon of the series. Or, I'd rather that more substance be injected into the background of previous "guest" characters (Tremor and Skarlet, for example). Freddy had his time in the limelight and it was dull and, thankfully, short-lived.

I completely get this, and I don't completely disagree. The issue though is more one of curb appeal to general audiences. I'm an MK Fan, I dropped money for the MK characters. General audiences, however, may not. I have no idea how the numbers look, but I'd wager to guess the horror icons outsold the MK characters.

Honestly, I don't consider any DLC MK kharacter to be a "guest." Tanya, Bo Rai Cho, Tremor, and even Triborg are all part of -or extensions of- the MK Universe. I reserve the word "guest" for outsider characters, like Freddy.

The reality of it all is money. WB likes their microtransactions, and guest characters make money while working as publicity for the base game. My presumption is that we'll get equal parts guest and MK DLC characters going forward.

I'm just some nerd sitting at his carrel in between classes, but even I can see the marketing potential for a retro-style "Freddy's Back!" or "Freddy's Coming!" ad campaign to sell copies and DLC.

All I'm really saying is that a Freddy redux with Robert Englund makes financial sense if it's possible.

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01/12/2019 05:24 AM EST
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The reality of it all is money. WB likes their microtransactions, and guest characters make money while working as publicity for the base game. My presumption is that we'll get equal parts guest and MK DLC characters going forward.

I'm just some nerd sitting at his carrel in between classes, but even I can see the marketing potential for a retro-style "Freddy's Back!" or "Freddy's Coming!" ad campaign to sell copies and DLC.

All I'm really saying is that a Freddy redux with Robert Englund makes financial sense if it's possible.

If your argument in favor of a return by Freddy revolves around financial gains, then I'm afraid you're misguided. Freddy Krueger hasn't been relevant in decades. Sure, he's a classic horror movie icon, but his relevancy today has been overshadowed by characters like Alien, Predator, Michael Meyers, and Pennywise. Even Jason, who I consider to be right up there with Freddy as the worst guest character thus far, has taken a backseat to these characters. I played every character in MKX, including those included in both DLC packs. Predator was one of my mains, but it never felt right seeing him on the roster.

If you want new fans, delve into a different genre. I'd much rather see an open-world MK that takes place in one or multiple realms than ever see another guest character whose only purpose is to draw in fans from a very niche genre in horror.

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01/12/2019 06:13 PM EST
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The reality of it all is money. WB likes their microtransactions, and guest characters make money while working as publicity for the base game. My presumption is that we'll get equal parts guest and MK DLC characters going forward.

I'm just some nerd sitting at his carrel in between classes, but even I can see the marketing potential for a retro-style "Freddy's Back!" or "Freddy's Coming!" ad campaign to sell copies and DLC.

All I'm really saying is that a Freddy redux with Robert Englund makes financial sense if it's possible.

If your argument in favor of a return by Freddy revolves around financial gains, then I'm afraid you're misguided. Freddy Krueger hasn't been relevant in decades. Sure, he's a classic horror movie icon, but his relevancy today has been overshadowed by characters like Alien, Predator, Michael Meyers, and Pennywise. Even Jason, who I consider to be right up there with Freddy as the worst guest character thus far, has taken a backseat to these characters. I played every character in MKX, including those included in both DLC packs. Predator was one of my mains, but it never felt right seeing him on the roster.

If you want new fans, delve into a different genre. I'd much rather see an open-world MK that takes place in one or multiple realms than ever see another guest character whose only purpose is to draw in fans from a very niche genre in horror.

With all due respect, I think you're a bit blinded by your dislike of guest characters and are approaching this more as an MK fan than rationally. First lets assess the relevancy of Freddy Krueger. While Freddy hasn't had a film in about 9 years now, neither has Jason- which you do make a point of reducing, but Jason still outsold the MK DLC characters. You also failed to take account of Leatherface who was included primarily based on recognition, despite being far less generally recognizable than Freddy Krueger. Furthermore, I AM a horror fan and I would contend that prior to this year's success with the Halloween reboot, Freddy Krueger had greater recognition than Michael Myers. Hell, I would say that give an average person on the street today two photos of Freddy and Michael, and the answers would be "Freddy Krueger and Halloween Guy." Still yet, there is a planned Nightmare film coming and Robert Englund, as I said, has very publicly been talking about returning to the role. Since NetherRealm has already worked with Englund and we are in the era of nostalgia, the marketing potential is astronomical. Couple that with the fact that much of the MK team is comprised of horror fans and many elements of the series were drawn from horror in the past, it's undeniable that it makes sense from a profit perspective.

Now, let me move on to your second point about a niche genre. I suppose, yes, horror is a niche genre, but Freddy Krueger is certainly not niche to horror fans. We're in the age of 80s retro! Freddy was a pop culture icon of the period! So relegating Freddy Krueger to just horror fans? Give me a break. But, let's say you're right. Should we appeal to that "niche" group of horror fans? Absolutely, because the number of people who care about Mortal Kombat's universe is a hell of a lot smaller than the horror fanbase. I know no person in my day-to-day life that actually beat the story mode of MKX other than myself. General audiences aren't looking at MK as a story driven, deep-dive. Some may find that, but on the whole your average dude who sees a commercial and thinks the fatalities look "kickass" isn't going to care. Part of Mortal Kombat's success is that they know what they are; the story mode is a wonderful bonus to the bloodshed and gore, but it IS a bonus. Your casual consumer isn't gonna care about Tanya, Reiko, Rain, Bo Rai Cho - those are for freaks like us. When the random guy who bought the game because his buddy said it was "sick" sees Freddy Krueger, the hope is that he's gonna to say "Oh, man, it's Freddy. He scared the shit outta me as a kid!" Then he'll drop the $4.99 for Freddy. That scenario is infinitely more likely than a casual player saying "Li Mei?! She looks awesome!"

I'm not fond of guest characters myself, but they are profitable and they keep corporate faith in NetherRealm. WB likes microtransactions and they like DLC. You think Goro being locked on disc was bad? You think instant fatalities are bad? Imagine MK11 if those guest characters didn't turn an insane profit for MKX. Guest characters are a profit inoculation against corporate interference in the base game itself. They're a way to bilk money from general audiences while creating a fun, not serious addition to the game that may actually sell more copies to those who really don't give a shit who Baraka is, they just want to saw someone in half with a chainsaw.

Allowing NetherRealm to play ball with WB - put in easily marketable characters that will sell on an individual level - breathes life into Mortal Kombat as a whole. If you want your Mortal Kombat Mythologies II: Hsu Hao, then faith in NetherRealm's judgement needs to be instilled in WB, and the only way that happens is through profit. In no realm is Bo Rai Cho going to be more profitable than Robert Englund returning as Freddy Krueger.

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01/13/2019 08:16 PM EST
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No thanks. To me, filling roster space with characters who have no canonical place in the MK plot is a complete waste. Reintroducing, in my opinion, the most boring guest character of the past two installments would be more of a waste than it was in MK9.

dude im sorry not to be a jerk but if you were wb would you personally with a straight face turn down guaranteed money by adding guests?

i remember a interview with ed boon for i think mk9 that freddy was the most downloadable dlc out of the others and i believe ( not sure) the mkx guests dlc sold just as much as freddy . i wont lie i would love to see the sales figures for who was most downloaded . how many die hard walking dead fans do you think will buy a copy of tekken 7 after knowing negan is a fighter?

you have to remember we hardcore mk fans who love the lore only make up a fraction to other gamers . that play casually .i know a bunch of people offline who are hardcore fighting game fans have no desire to play mk but will play simply because what guest is added and thats where wb gets them because that interest is there . the people i know are more street fighter tekken and imported japanese fighting titles . half the fighting games they import i never even heard of

as for me i dont mind guest charachters because again for me theres usually about four or five charachters i wouldnt use at all because those four or five do not grab my attention . i know the mkx kids get hate but out of all of them i only like cassie and kung jin so i would take alien and predator to replace jaquie and takeda any day of the week.

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01/14/2019 07:13 AM EST
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dude im sorry not to be a jerk but if you were wb would you personally with a straight face turn down guaranteed money by adding guests?

If I had a say-so in which characters outside of MK were introduced into a title as one-shot characters, it wouldn't be someone as irrelevant as Freddy Krueger presently is. If that was a requirement of my job title, then I'd go for characters like Spawn, Pennywise, or a guest character from another fighting game series.

To refute coltess's misinterpretation of my point, I am not absolutely opposed to guest characters. I'm not blinded by my dislike for the horror genre or guest characters taking up space on the roster. I was never a fan of the senseless hack-and-slash style of franchises like "Nightmare on Elm Street" or "Friday the 13th", but that doesn't mean I hate the characters. I might consider the movies to be trash, but I can see the potential in the characters and the history behind them is interesting. My only desire is that NRS don't rehash a character that already had his shot in the series, especially in a time when that character is no longer relevant. Today, Pennywise and Michael Myers are more relevant in the horror scene than Freddy Krueger and Jason Vorhees. That said, I have no interest in seeing what would end up being, basically, a re-skinned MKX Jason in Michael Myers, either.

People who drop the cash for MK play it because of its appeal as a fighting game that is in stark contrast to games like Street Fighter and Tekken. They don't play it because Freddy Krueger is in it. They play it because they get to experience blood, gore, and murderous mayhem. That's the appeal. You want NRS to make money?--Steer away from falling for this "remake" fad that's overtaken popular culture. I say this because NRS would earn a bigger financial gain utilizing more presently relevant.

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dude im sorry not to be a jerk but if you were wb would you personally with a straight face turn down guaranteed money by adding guests?

If I had a say-so in which characters outside of MK were introduced into a title as one-shot characters, it wouldn't be someone as irrelevant as Freddy Krueger presently is. If that was a requirement of my job title, then I'd go for characters like Spawn, Pennywise, or a guest character from another fighting game series.

you are aware dc and wb dont own spawn right image comics is all on there own ? i also believe if they havent used spawn yet they never will. i remember todd mcfarlen the creator of spawn saying before mk x came out nrs has a deadline for this deal or agreement before its cancelled out. also how is freddy irrelevant ? if anyone from a horror movie fits its him expecialy when mk introduced a dream world in the last game in one of the fighters endings . i agree pennywise would rule in mk. he is perfect for it. . since there's a child's play remake on the way june 21 this year maybe chucky.

wb owns new line cinema so there probably going to want to use what is in house instead of shelling money out to other companies for a guest dlc . i am no expert when it comes to rights and I.p's i admit but you really think anyone outside of wb is going to want to see one of there big charachters get killed in mk like gule from sf or whomever from tekken? wont happen

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01/14/2019 02:09 PM EST

This idea is an easy sell for me just based on the prospect of Robert Englund voicing all of Freddy's intros alone.

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01/14/2019 02:11 PM EST

I will never get the people who say horror characters don't fit in MK. Horror characters fit this franchise like a glove. This is MK, the franchise famous for blood and gore.

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By the way, it is great seeing you post here coltess. You are one of the prominent posters I remember from back in the heyday of these forums.

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01/14/2019 06:15 PM EST
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dude im sorry not to be a jerk but if you were wb would you personally with a straight face turn down guaranteed money by adding guests?

If I had a say-so in which characters outside of MK were introduced into a title as one-shot characters, it wouldn't be someone as irrelevant as Freddy Krueger presently is. If that was a requirement of my job title, then I'd go for characters like Spawn, Pennywise, or a guest character from another fighting game series.

To refute coltess's misinterpretation of my point, I am not absolutely opposed to guest characters. I'm not blinded by my dislike for the horror genre or guest characters taking up space on the roster. I was never a fan of the senseless hack-and-slash style of franchises like "Nightmare on Elm Street" or "Friday the 13th", but that doesn't mean I hate the characters. I might consider the movies to be trash, but I can see the potential in the characters and the history behind them is interesting. My only desire is that NRS don't rehash a character that already had his shot in the series, especially in a time when that character is no longer relevant. Today, Pennywise and Michael Myers are more relevant in the horror scene than Freddy Krueger and Jason Vorhees. That said, I have no interest in seeing what would end up being, basically, a re-skinned MKX Jason in Michael Myers, either.

People who drop the cash for MK play it because of its appeal as a fighting game that is in stark contrast to games like Street Fighter and Tekken. They don't play it because Freddy Krueger is in it. They play it because they get to experience blood, gore, and murderous mayhem. That's the appeal. You want NRS to make money?--Steer away from falling for this "remake" fad that's overtaken popular culture. I say this because NRS would earn a bigger financial gain utilizing more presently relevant.

I apologize, you aren't blinded by a hatred of guest characters. You're blinded by a hatred of horror movies. Seriously! What gives you the impression that Freddy Krueger is no longer relevant? The character sells millions in merchandise per year, he's got a movie in development, he's an extremely common halloween costume, he was the most downloaded MK9 DLC, he is on MKX mobile, he is DLC for Dead by Daylight. For Christsake, an article on Freddy's merchandise was in Forbes just a few weeks ago!

On top of that, I still contend that if you show a picture of Freddy and Michael Myers to a rando on the street you'd get "Freddy Krueger and, uhhh Halloween guy. Furthermore, I bet if you said their names without pictures and asked the person to describe them, you'd get "Uh, burned dream guy." and "Yeah, the Shrek dude. Austin Powers."

Freddy Krueger was a pop culture icon and you severely under estimate his draw. Especially if Englund, the real Freddy, returns to the role after that shit remake.

If your issue is years, lets do some assessing. Yeah it's been 9 years, but when Predator came out for MKX it was 5 years since Predators and for the Xenomorph it had been 7 years since the abyamal AVP: Requiem. The shock character, who I argue had the least general audience recognition of all, was Leatherface. He actually had the newest movie to MKX at two years old. If we were going off of horror icons and release dates rather than recognition, hell put Pinhead in there. Hellraiser: Judgment just came out! It's about recognition, and Freddy's got it in spades.

Now, I don't disagree with you about Michael Myers and Pennywise. Personally I feel Pennywise won't age well, but it makes good financial sense. However, we're certainly getting a hell of a lot more than 2 guest characters. 4 being the bare minimum. Who then? Who equals the general appeal of Charles Frederick Krueger?

My whole argument is that Freddy makes sense.

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01/15/2019 03:50 AM EST
01/15/2019 06:18 AM EST
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I apologize, you aren't blinded by a hatred of guest characters. You're blinded by a hatred of horror movies.

I'm a fan of well-acted, well-written horror movies that strike actual, palpable fear in me. I've never found any of the hack-and-slash franchises to be scary, well-acted, or well-written. Just because we have a difference of opinion doesn't mean that you have to continue making ignorant and baseless assumptions. My argument is against the reappearance of Freddy Krueger. That's it. Give the opportunity to characters who have yet to make an appearance. There doesn't need to be a whole faction of horror movie icons taking up space on the roster, anyway. Most horror icons have been relegated to a straight-to-DVD lifestyle, anyway, no matter their alleged popularity.

I'm aware of what your argument is. Freddy Krueger may be recognizable--I mean, look at him compared to the other horror icons. They're wearing masks and Freddy's got his disfigured mug on display for all to see. I'm not denying that he's easily recognizable.

Once more, my argument is that there are other characters, not just from horror films, that can be introduced as guest characters before Freddy gets another shot, especially since NRS failed so miserably with his move set and Fatalities. Freddy Krueger's presence in MK9 was not the reason it sold so well. NRS profited plenty off the game itself before any of the DLC was advertised. As I stated previously, people buy MK because it's MK, not because Freddy Krueger might be in it. Sure, DLC sells, but give other characters a shot before trying to capitalize on some niche actor's involvement in "Injustice 2".

In closing, I don't even know why I'm arguing against this anymore. You have your opinion and I have mine. NRS is far too intelligent to drag Freddy Krueger's boring ass back onto the MK roster. Maybe you'll get you want in a future MK installment, but I am willing to bet that Freddy won't be making his presence known anytime soon. If he does, well, let's just hope they completely rehash his move set because--My God--he was complete trash in MK9.

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I apologize, you aren't blinded by a hatred of guest characters. You're blinded by a hatred of horror movies.

I'm a fan of well-acted, well-written horror movies that strike actual, palpable fear in me. I've never found any of the hack-and-slash franchises to be scary, well-acted, or well-written.

uuum do you even know who robert englund is? dude was famous way before noes . also can you honestly sit there and say he wasn't a well acted actor for the part and the original 1084 nightmare on elm street wasnt terrifying? this isnt a cheap shot but you must be from this generation because the horror genre from the 70's - 90's werent always oscar worthy in terms of writing

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01/15/2019 10:08 AM EST
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Once more, my argument is that there are other characters, not just from horror films, that can be introduced as guest characters before Freddy gets another shot, especially since NRS failed so miserably with his move set and Fatalities.

Strongly disagree with this point. Freddy was one of the BEST characters in the game. And his Fatalities were great nods to the character, I especially loved the boiler fatality.

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01/15/2019 12:28 PM EST
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uuum do you even know who robert englund is? dude was famous way before noes . also can you honestly sit there and say he wasn't a well acted actor for the part and the original 1084 nightmare on elm street wasnt terrifying? this isnt a cheap shot but you must be from this generation because the horror genre from the 70's - 90's werent always oscar worthy in terms of writing

I know of nothing Robert Englund has done other than "Nightmare on Elm Street" and his role as "Scarecrow" in one or both of the "Injustice" titles, and I only discovered that as a result of visiting this thread.

I may be wrong, but I doubt any of the hack-and-slash films, whether it be Freddy, Jason, Michael Myers, or any of the others, were nominated for any major awards, let alone won anything major. Horror films like "The Exorcist" and "The Omen" have won major awards, as has "Aliens", but I haven't found anything regarding any of the "Nightmare on Elm Street" films. It's won some minor awards, but nothing from the Oscars or the Academy Awards or anything that major.

I'm not arguing that you shouldn't like what you like. Plenty of people close to me like things that I don't, but we get along fine. Difference of opinion doesn't need to be taken as some sort of affront to your personal taste, bud. Remember, we're all here for the same thing: Mortal Kombat. As long as it's closely resembles what we've enjoyed over the years or decades, we'll all be at least partly happy in the end.

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Freddy was one of the BEST characters in the game. And his Fatalities were great nods to the character, I especially loved the boiler fatality.

We have a difference of opinion, and that's okay. Admittedly, I completely forgot about the Boiler Fatality. That was the best thing about Freddy, the only good thing about him, in my opinion. I would have enjoyed him more if I, personally, didn't find everything else so uninteresting.

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01/15/2019 02:13 PM EST

I was speaking competitively. Freddy was a consensus top tier character. M2 Dave got top 8 at Evo in 2012 with him.

But yeah, opinions are opinions, and I don't begrudge yours. The double dip is highly unlikely either way.

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01/15/2019 02:18 PM EST
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uuum do you even know who robert englund is? dude was famous way before noes . also can you honestly sit there and say he wasn't a well acted actor for the part and the original 1084 nightmare on elm street wasnt terrifying? this isnt a cheap shot but you must be from this generation because the horror genre from the 70's - 90's werent always oscar worthy in terms of writing

I know of nothing Robert Englund has done other than "Nightmare on Elm Street" and his role as "Scarecrow" in one or both of the "Injustice" titles, and I only discovered that as a result of visiting this thread.

I may be wrong, but I doubt any of the hack-and-slash films, whether it be Freddy, Jason, Michael Myers, or any of the others, were nominated for any major awards, let alone won anything major. Horror films like "The Exorcist" and "The Omen" have won major awards, as has "Aliens", but I haven't found anything regarding any of the "Nightmare on Elm Street" films. It's won some minor awards, but nothing from the Oscars or the Academy Awards or anything that major.

I'm not arguing that you shouldn't like what you like. Plenty of people close to me like things that I don't, but we get along fine. Difference of opinion doesn't need to be taken as some sort of affront to your personal taste, bud. Remember, we're all here for the same thing: Mortal Kombat. As long as it's closely resembles what we've enjoyed over the years or decades, we'll all be at least partly happy in the end.

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Freddy was one of the BEST characters in the game. And his Fatalities were great nods to the character, I especially loved the boiler fatality.

We have a difference of opinion, and that's okay. Admittedly, I completely forgot about the Boiler Fatality. That was the best thing about Freddy, the only good thing about him, in my opinion. I would have enjoyed him more if I, personally, didn't find everything else so uninteresting.

I agree, and I apologize that I got salty.

What I will say though, is that awards aren't the metric we're measuring by. It's money. Slasher flicks are insanely profitable, incredibly popular, and did serve for some inspiration in earlier MK installments.

In the end though, all we can do is wait and see.

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RE: Freddy
01/15/2019 03:45 PM EST
coltess

I agree, and I apologize that I got salty.

What I will say though, is that awards aren't the metric we're measuring by. It's money. Slasher flicks are insanely profitable, incredibly popular, and did serve for some inspiration in earlier MK installments.

In the end though, all we can do is wait and see.

It's no big deal, bud. I'm not one to hold grudges or get worked up over things like this. I'm also a lot more tolerant and patient than I once was. Discussions like this are nice to have and fulfill my desire for this site to be interesting for me outside of my usual element in the Fan Kreations forum.

My point about awards was in direct response to TheOneAndOnlyDemonKing. He mentioned horror flicks being Oscar-worthy. That's all that was.

If it turns out that Freddy returns, then I just hope and have faith that NRS will do him justice. I might be disappointed that someone else wasn't given a shot, but, eventually, I'd learn him all the same just so long as such a process was as fun and gratifying as it was in MKX.

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RE: Freddy
01/15/2019 03:51 PM EST
Detox

I was speaking competitively. Freddy was a consensus top tier character. M2 Dave got top 8 at Evo in 2012 with him.

But yeah, opinions are opinions, and I don't begrudge yours. The double dip is highly unlikely either way.

I was going to ask if anyone ever won a tournament using Freddy. I did a search on YouTube and the best I could find was the same round at Evo that you mentioned, I believe. There wasn't anything else, but I admit that I didn't go beyond the first search results page. Reaching Top 8 is a nice accomplishment and all, but a champion it does not make.

All good here, man. I like learning about the MK tournament scene, especially since I only started following a couple years after MKX was released. I'm always open to learning new things, even if those new things revolve around a game that was released nearly a decade ago.

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RE: Freddy
01/15/2019 03:51 PM EST

Michael Myers and Chucky please

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RE: Freddy
01/15/2019 04:02 PM EST
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uuum do you even know who robert englund is? dude was famous way before noes . also can you honestly sit there and say he wasn't a well acted actor for the part and the original 1084 nightmare on elm street wasnt terrifying? this isnt a cheap shot but you must be from this generation because the horror genre from the 70's - 90's werent always oscar worthy in terms of writing

I know of nothing Robert Englund has done other than "Nightmare on Elm Street" and his role as "Scarecrow" in one or both of the "Injustice" titles, and I only discovered that as a result of visiting this thread.

dude he was on the original v wich landed him the role

heres all his work info

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000387/

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