Great Graphics, But The Fighting Sucks.
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posted03/28/2021 09:29 PM (UTC)by
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03/28/2021 05:49 PM (UTC)

The Fighting in Mortal Kombat 11 is like Deception, Deadly Alliance, Armageddon, not Mortal Kombat Trilogy or Mortal Kombat 2

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creed200569
03/28/2021 11:10 PM (UTC)
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Not even close lol

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NorthernKnick A.K.A. The ALLFATHER
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03/29/2021 02:23 AM (UTC)Edited 04/21/2021 02:30 AM (UTC)
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I dont like doing it but I have to agree with this its pretty sad when players on this level can keep up with people on my level. But it does look like they were trying... It seems they didnt have enough time to finish alot of things leading to a quick ditch effort to balance all characters by restricting alot of stuff like combos that should be Special Canceled but arent but it is what it is and we get alotta bad fights.

Like this.

Then you get Beat with Stuff Like This.

This really happens alot.

Then Send Me a Toxic Harassing message on How im The Worst MK Player and a pathetic Crap Tub or W/E He Said. Cuz I Went for Shao Kahns Grab Reset final hit of the 1st round and lost cuz its really hard to do.

TBH There is More Frame Jailing Exploits in this game Then Combos.

The Things Making it so Kasual spam Friendly are the unbalanced timings, Frame Jailing on Wakup's That Take Zero Skill and Variations imo the Title Took a turn for the worse when these things were added.

Like Rambo's Ending Say's "It was a Battle of Will's" I see it as this aswell Having The Wills Be Unexcapable Exploits...Noobs "Will" Do these Constantly cuz they dont know any better But I Wont!!! cuz Id Never Lose and I feel like I Dishonored Myself with Bad Spammy Gameplay that in my mind is Totally Unacceptable and Just Pathetic its like spamming Projectiles it used to be if we came across somebody who played like this we would Laugh in Pitty and try to help them now they think they are Good and when you try to help them they get really Toxic in a Mannor Thats so Pathetically Disgusting Cuz They are So confused they would rather play it off as if the 2 year old method they mashed out on a tryhard level is a better Skill. TBH if this is the way of the MK Future I will be Very Upset.

I Really do think alot of stuff can be fixed with one Large Major Update. Like frames between poking and specials to have the special win. Having rid of alot of unnessacary exploits of Frame Jailing the ones on wakups most of all.... Also being able to use fatal blow at any time....Adding projectile's that reset an enemy onto their feet....Giving everyone an over head and low combo starter and fixing invincable wakups so they are actually invincable and work.

Edit also making alot of the moveset combos that should be able to be special cancled into special cancelable combos. And being able to combo of all projectiles would be nice if they hit sombody while in a juggle.

This MK plays Very Optimally it's like 2 different games in one if you get put up against Older Fans that like Using Combos its a pretty dank game but when you get faced up against a new fan they just constantly spam projectiles optimal timing's OverHead's Low's throw's and uppercut's hoping for a crushing blow that they will usually get and if you dont counter it to the Tee and play Optimal yourself your going to lose. I Personaly dont like Optimal Play there are other Games like For Honor that have this kinda gameplay and it's really not that good great theme but very fundamental and is quite annoying. Cuz when having a choice to play optimal it will be spammed and will turn into ppl having to play optimal Leading to a Glorified Rock Paper Scissors Style Game when it comes to roster selection...It Will be Fun and Balanced if you Consider Rock, Paper Scissors Balanced and Spamming the same two optimal three hit combos with an occasional Grab fun.

TBH with you all I Played For Honor For like 3-4 months online I got Really Good at it but I constantly Kept thinking how Great that game would be if it played more like MK instead of Optimal Play... I found the Game For Honor Looking for a new Fun Game cuz I wasnt liking the new Mk fight mechanics on MKX or 11. I Found out after a while that this new game was full of exploits and ppl who spam them so I went back to MK and its MK 11 I said to Myself ill deal with this new style somehow. SoI learn as much bout the new MK11 style as I could and I relized that I wished for For Honor to play more like MK but MK is playing More like For Honor with Optimal Timing Spam Beating out skill. This Broke My Heart Really. IDK what to do at this point im a beaten broken man and everythings different I need to Addapt but how do I beat something that cannot be killed? (Exploits) Sheeva Unblockables, Constant Wakeup Frame Trap OverHead Low Throw Spam? Im Going to figure out a Strategy That Isnt Fire Too Fight Fire and i'll LYK. It's Still a Close Fight but Ppl with the combo Skill will come out Victorious. If we want skill to win against the Easy W....We Have To Fight!!! Lets Take back our Game From The EveryDay Kasual.

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BADDBILL
04/08/2021 03:04 AM (UTC)
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I have no idea how you can liken a slow 3D fighter to MK 11. Oh ya it's slow and clunky like those 3D era games ? K that makes sense! I miss the lightning fast MKX need to pick it back up again

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04/08/2021 01:08 PM (UTC)Edited 04/13/2021 12:04 AM (UTC)
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I have no idea how you can liken a slow 3D fighter to MK 11. Oh ya it's slow and clunky like those 3D era games ? K that makes sense! I miss the lightning fast MKX need to pick it back up again

Its not the lightning fastness everbody liked it was combos over everything if you couldnt carry a combo you were a noob there wasnt a bunch easy button presses for people who didnt know how To play to mash and spam you with every game. The MK9 Fastness Had its Perks Cuz it was Supposed to match up with the Speed and Fluidity of UMK3 I guess these new Games are Supposed to Play Like Deception DA and Arma but with UMK3 Speed aswell I really dont know which games it based from i wasnt really Paying alot of attention pre MK11 release the hype wasnt there for me. UMK3 is The preferred Game and Match Because its Non-Kasual friendly because the Competitiveness and Smooth Flows for Carrying and Combo Dropping. They did it correctly in MK9 but when MKX Dropped I feel that MK was alot more Kasual Friendly and the Competitiveness was restricted threw Variations lowering Mid Fight combo choices. Because when you have a certain Variation there is only so many choices you have to choose from basically leading to people knowing what combo your going to do before you do it. This also leads to the only things you can do that your opponent doesnt see coming is an overhead or low Combo starter or Grab which people Exploit with frame traps constantly making the game not fun to play. Id rather lose to a 100% combo I cant escape from that looks cool and takes Skill and alot of time to master. And I dont Feel adding Unbalanced timings helps matters ever hit should be the same speeds and Damage... I think all characters should have equal movesets all fp's bp's, fk's and bk's should do same damages threwout the roster. And each character should have Special the much up with speed and damage. When it comes to safe on block all kombos are safe upper cuts are punishable along with special's those are the roots and thats what i've always liked. (Balance) (Kompetitive)

People are mad cuz the best fighter in the world went from get good to im a noob and mash this and win. But it Look's Great.TBH I'd Love to sit here and politely answer every question you have on the subject..its MK9 we liked not MKX. I guess if you werent there at the time you will never know how great it really was. It wasnt Commercial Like this stuff today it was the real deal uncut raw to the point and made sense. Was Legit Thunder Crack. This game may have some decent combos but in mk9 each character had multipal different combos you could choose from mid fight that were all epic wasnt devided by variations and if sombody started a nice combo you had a chance to break it. If sombody was constantly trapping you into overheads and lows and throws on wakups you had a multitude of un metered wakups to choose from and punish them. Not invincable ones that are beat out by the same spam keeping you down to start with. Ya it has all kinds of skins and stuff but is Nowhere near the fighter it used to be.People feel its watered down it needs to choose a path to stay on not kontinuesly jumping ship it has no flavor this way MK Fans Expect Quality over Quantity. But when it comes to Fighting Mechanics they Expect Both.

But on this other Hand looking at this shambled world of today its good for what it is and the only thing really holding it back and not letting this Ugly Kytinn Bug Awaken and Arise from it's Wretched cocoon as A Magnificent Beautiful Butterfly is these broken wakups they dont work and need to be FIXED!!!!! Let me say it again FIX THE WAKUPS PLEASE!!!!! The only way the Wakup Attacks should'nt Connect are 1. If theyre Blocked 2. The opponents out of Range 3. The Opponent Hits you with a Fatal Blow 4. The opponent hits you and takes that last bit of health. Everything else should eat the attack... All bets are off they need to Eat That Wakup No If's And's or But's about They Should Eat that Effin Wakup.

And Just some FYI if you didnt know this new timelines titles are based off of the last timeline (last Gen) your not the mk fan you say you are so have a lil empathy for ppl that have been here along time and are upset cuz NRS is trynna do 2 things make it like it used to be with last gen settings in a new 2.5D envirement with next Gen Content and make the fight fair for New and Old Fans but mostly catering to new fans so the old fans just dont tear new players apart then they will quit never to come back. Old fans are pretty frustrated with this new style of button mash spam equaling out and holding up against pro Kombos and I can see why.

Edit I Really Dont Know all the Game titles they were trying to base MK11 off but I think its a Mix of all games from MK2 threw MK Advanced. But in a Next Gen Way and on the next timeline they did a good job but I Really think They should just make all MK games in a Competitive Setting like MK9 was. Of course different moves an combos can be applied im talking bout its flow like MK9's wakups, juggle timings and multitude of different midfight combo options which made it skill over spam. It Realy Was the MK to Change their mind's on making every MK something Brand new and never seen before. But NRS is Dead set on seeing this thing threw and I know it. But MK9 was so effin good it will be Missed so much. I Think About it constantly.

New Fans like MK11 cuz of all the cool skins and content so do old fans But their is 1 thing deviding us (Fight Mechanics). New Fans like Small easy Button Presses that Hold Up against Massive Combos that they can rappidely keep repeating and Old Fans Do Not cuz its allowing New Players to beat them with Lack of skill. But Hey if it helps the MK Kommunity Grow im all for it aslong as it returns to its Hardcore roots Soon. NRS did everything they could to gain the new generation as MK Fans by basically throwing all skill out the window and looks like theyve succeeded. I Wish More Old Fans Woulda Stuck around tho I really dont like explaining this all so much. The only thing allowing new players to win in my book is Broken Wakup Attack's cuz there is alot of skill left in the game but only like 5% of people still use. If the wakups were fixed I believe all hardcore Fans would return and all your Curiousity Would Deseace.

But im Still here Kuz I love Smacking Kasuals around who think theyre good with constant low overhead Throw and frame trap shaming its what I do.

Like This

This

And This.

Pretty Much The Way I See it is if I lose to Somebody That Needs to Use Constant Frame Jailing with Zero Combos and overhead lows and throws Ill Put my controller down and Just Hope They Dont Break Their Arm Pleasuring themselves so hard to using exploits to win untill they relize im eating chips and not playing lol. But if they use actual skills to beat me ill post it for yall to see...Till next time Folks.

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Kitana88
04/08/2021 10:04 PM (UTC)
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The Fighting in Mortal Kombat 11 is like Deception, Deadly Alliance, Armageddon, not Mortal Kombat Trilogy or Mortal Kombat 2

I agree that the fighting sucks. How do you NOT give Sonya Blade her leg grab? Some of the other fighters are missing their iconic moves too. I don’t get it. And why does Raiden not do his iconic screaming when he flys at you? Does Liu Kang even have his bicycle or flying kick? I didn’t buy this game after seeing how slow the fighting engine is. It’s nowhere near the speed of the previous games. I wonder why they slowed it down so much and removed classic moves.

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NorthernKnick A.K.A. The ALLFATHER
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Things I Hope to see More of in MK1!!

04/09/2021 02:15 AM (UTC)Edited 04/12/2021 05:36 PM (UTC)
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The Fighting in Mortal Kombat 11 is like Deception, Deadly Alliance, Armageddon, not Mortal Kombat Trilogy or Mortal Kombat 2

I agree that the fighting sucks. How do you NOT give Sonya Blade her leg grab? Some of the other fighters are missing their iconic moves too. I don’t get it. And why does Raiden not do his iconic screaming when he flys at you? Does Liu Kang even have his bicycle or flying kick? I didn’t buy this game after seeing how slow the fighting engine is. It’s nowhere near the speed of the previous games. I wonder why they slowed it down so much and removed classic moves.

They Replaced Sonya's Upward Kicks With Punchs like they did with Liu Kangs Bicycle Kicks in MKX. And Yes Liu Kang Has Both flying and Bicycle Kicks and no its not BBF 4 its BF 4 way better than whatever inputs he had in MKX but doesnt feel Klassic I dont think we should have to hold 4 but BBF 4 Feels right. Also His towards 1,2 juggle is way to easy its like impossible to drop his towards 1,2 juggle combo now even hitting your opponent outta the air with a punch into the 1,2-1,2,3,Bike Kicks is like impoossible to drop. But still everyone would rather frame trap into overheads lows and throw exploits I dont get it.smh. I Used to love hitting my opponent out of the air dashing forwards into a 1,2 , 1,2,b1,dash, forwards + 2,4 bicycle kick and when I did it peoples jaws would drop to the floor with amazement cuz it took so much skill to do especially in the heat of Kombat now when you do it its just Like W/E The skill is just gone. I dont get that Rush anymore when doing combos cuz it feels so watered down. I was basically the one who started Liu Kangs Ground Pressure Game in MK9 with like 2 or three blocked standing 1,2s into a enhanced staggering low fireball dash into a low back + 3,1,2 dash back + 3,1,2, dash, towards + 2, 4, enhanced Bike Kicks I really dont like the lack of skill it has become. ????

Edit Im Pretty sure they replaced her BF 4 Handstand Leg Clinch Special with her low sweeping BF 4 Leg Breaker Special there is also a Brutality Konnected to it.

Sonya Blade's Brutalities.

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