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03/15/2019 01:36 AM EST

As is seems my favorite character will die at the end of chapter one.

Chapter one is Cassie her chapter she gets promoted by Sonya and then Raiden calls for them because of an attack by the revenants at the end she fights and defeats Liu Kang. C4 is detonated and Sonya is could in the debris when it al comes crumbeling down. At the end you can hear Cassie shout out for Sonya and that is where is ends. What a cliffhanger.

I do really hope sonya gets her own chapter as her younger self and that time restores itself. I love Sonya and she is always my main. What do you think ?

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03/15/2019 02:23 AM EST

This is a good thing. We won’t have to hear Ronda Rouseys ugly voice for the rest of the story mode.

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03/15/2019 02:58 AM EST

Only old Sonya dies and honestly the way the scene turns out is pretty ambiguous so Cassie believes her dead.

Also this game is all about time and alternative time flows, so maybe Cassie and Johnny will turn back time after defeating Kronika ...

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03/15/2019 04:23 AM EST

That's the sad thing about using the whole " time " thing as a story crutch. You can do anything, kill off anyone and then just rewind time. Which will negate the impact of anything that happens in the story. Sonya dead? Nah that was the older Sonya, how convenient now we have a young one again! Lame

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03/15/2019 06:09 AM EST

From the latest story trailer we see young Sonya fighting Kano and Erron Black and hiding with Cassie behind a truck from gunfire. Whilst I’d be sad to see her die I don’t believe it will be the end of Sonya.

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03/15/2019 08:52 AM EST
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You do realize you are already spoiling something with the title of your thread? I kept the title of my thread something general and put a spoilertag on it and instead of placing your comment in that thread, you just create a new one with a spoiling title. That thread is currently even on top of the first page, so you couldn't have missed it. You're not even discussing something new that isn't being discussed in that thread. Do you realize that there a people who don't even want to be spoiled that a possible death is in the first chapter?

I don't even care about spoilers, but I don't think your title will go well with the people who don't want to be spoiled.

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03/15/2019 12:40 PM EST
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As is seems my favorite character will die at the end of chapter one.

Chapter one is Cassie her chapter she gets promoted by Sonya and then Raiden calls for them because of an attack by the revenants at the end she fights and defeats Liu Kang. C4 is detonated and Sonya is could in the debris when it al comes crumbeling down. At the end you can hear Cassie shout out for Sonya and that is where is ends. What a cliffhanger.

I do really hope sonya gets her own chapter as her younger self and that time restores itself. I love Sonya and she is always my main. What do you think ?

I think that even if they don't Back to the Future her back to life it doesn't matter because people get over death like a cold in this series.

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03/15/2019 12:44 PM EST

I'm guessing when this game is said and done we'll end up with an entirely new status quo, combining whatever elements of past and present they damn well please in MK12.

I just hope we don't end up with multiple versions of the same character continuing to run around in future games. It's fun for a self contained story to see Johnny Cage talk to himself, but I don't want Young Johnny and Old Johnny both to be longterm characters... I get enough of that kind of crap as an X-Men fan, lol...

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03/15/2019 12:52 PM EST
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Sonya dead? Nah that was the older Sonya, how convenient now we have a young one again! Lame

And younger Sonya will of course take to Cassie and fill the void of old Sonya and all will be right with the world.

That's NetherRealm Studio's way of basically telling story nerds "Uh, we wanna keep these characters as young as possible, So shut the fuck up about it and stop thinking so hard, 'K?"

And they eat it right up.

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I'm guessing when this game is said and done we'll end up with an entirely new status quo, combining whatever elements of past and present they damn well please in MK12.

I just hope we don't end up with multiple versions of the same character continuing to run around in future games. It's fun for a self contained story to see Johnny Cage talk to himself, but I don't want Young Johnny and Old Johnny both to be longterm characters... I get enough of that kind of crap as an X-Men fan, lol...

Didn't they do something like that with Marvel comics? Aren't there like two Logans now or something? And billions of Spider People running around? Just makes your head spin.

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Meanwhile this is a universe where magic exists so why would they even need to try that hard to make an excuse to keep them young? We saw them retcon the Edenian lore just so Johnny could stop himself from having greys in MKX.

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I'm guessing when this game is said and done we'll end up with an entirely new status quo, combining whatever elements of past and present they damn well please in MK12.

I just hope we don't end up with multiple versions of the same character continuing to run around in future games. It's fun for a self contained story to see Johnny Cage talk to himself, but I don't want Young Johnny and Old Johnny both to be longterm characters... I get enough of that kind of crap as an X-Men fan, lol...

Didn't they do something like that with Marvel comics? Aren't there like two Logans now or something? And billions of Spider People running around? Just makes your head spin.

There are a ton of Spider people running around, but I won't pretend to understand the details, as my best friend is the Spidey expert, not me, lol. X-Men are my wheelhouse...

Off the top of my head...

  • X-Man (who is an actual X-Man named X-Man) is an alternate version of Cable from the Age of Apocalypse, who jumped over to the main continuity a long time ago
  • Dark Beast is also an alternate version of Beast from the Age of Apocalypse, who jumped over to the main continuity a long time ago
  • More recently, Nightcrawler died, and shortly thereafter his Age of Apocalypse alternate reality doppelganger jumped over to the main continuity (seems to be a pattern) but I believe the AoA version is gone now, and I think original Nightcrawler has since been resurrected
  • Beast plucked younger versions of the original 5 X-Men (Himself, Jean, Cyclops, Iceman & Angel) from the past, and brought them forward to the present, and then they became stranded there, so there are currently still young versions and old versions of those characters running around the main Marvel Universe (With the exception of Old Cyclops, who is dead at present. Also Old Jean was dead for quite a while, but is currently alive again.)
  • Regular Continuity Run-of-the-mill Wolverine died, and got replaced by like... 3 alternative option Wolverines. X-23 (who is a female clone of Wolverine) took up the mantle, and started calling herself Wolverine while wearing his costume. Furthermore Sabretooth's personality was altered and he became good (through convoluted mumbo jumbo I won't get into) and he took up some of Logan's hero slack after he died. Further Furthermore, Old Man Logan (who was from an alternate future, where most heroes were dead) was brought to the main continuity to fill 1/3 of the void. So yes, regular wolverine died and got replaced with Girl Wolverine, Wolverine-esque hero Sabretooh, and an Old version of himself.

    That was all a couple years ago though, and I'm pretty sure normal Wolverine is alive again now. I have no idea what's going on with the other 3, I'm a few years behind on my reading (mostly just read things later, online, with Marvel Unlimited. Haven't bought current comics since I was a teenager)

And those are just the big examples. There are plenty of small, forgotten and/or 1-off examples of alternate X-Men running around the main continuity.

As I said... I get enough of this crap in one of my other favorite fandoms, lol...

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I'm guessing when this game is said and done we'll end up with an entirely new status quo, combining whatever elements of past and present they damn well please in MK12.

I just hope we don't end up with multiple versions of the same character continuing to run around in future games. It's fun for a self contained story to see Johnny Cage talk to himself, but I don't want Young Johnny and Old Johnny both to be longterm characters... I get enough of that kind of crap as an X-Men fan, lol...

Didn't they do something like that with Marvel comics? Aren't there like two Logans now or something? And billions of Spider People running around? Just makes your head spin.

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Meanwhile this is a universe where magic exists so why would they even need to try that hard to make an excuse to keep them young? We saw them retcon the Edenian lore just so Johnny could stop himself from having greys in MKX.

How is this even trying hard? Time-traveling is one of the most basic tropes in a game like this, not to mention a perfect gimmick for NRS to exploit. "OH NO GUYS! LOOK! SONYA DIED! SEE? WE AIN'T FUCKING AROUND!"

"Oh don't cry too hard, Sonya fans! Here comes young Sonya to save the day! She ain't going anywhere!"

Haha, I mean this is right up NRS's gimmicky sophomoric outdated alley. There's nothing "hard" about this shit. They get their cake and eat it too while story nerds swallow every crumb.

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I'm guessing when this game is said and done we'll end up with an entirely new status quo, combining whatever elements of past and present they damn well please in MK12.

I just hope we don't end up with multiple versions of the same character continuing to run around in future games. It's fun for a self contained story to see Johnny Cage talk to himself, but I don't want Young Johnny and Old Johnny both to be longterm characters... I get enough of that kind of crap as an X-Men fan, lol...

Didn't they do something like that with Marvel comics? Aren't there like two Logans now or something? And billions of Spider People running around? Just makes your head spin.

There are a ton of Spider people running around, but I won't pretend to understand the details, as my best friend is the Spidey expert, not me, lol. X-Men are my wheelhouse...

Off the top of my head...

  • X-Man (who is an actual X-Man named X-Man) is an alternate version of Cable from the Age of Apocalypse, who jumped over to the main continuity a long time ago
  • Dark Beast is also an alternate version of Beast from the Age of Apocalypse, who jumped over to the main continuity a long time ago
  • More recently, Nightcrawler died, and shortly thereafter his Age of Apocalypse alternate reality doppelganger jumped over to the main continuity (seems to be a pattern) but I believe the AoA version is gone now, and I think original Nightcrawler has since been resurrected
  • Beast plucked younger versions of the original 5 X-Men (Himself, Jean, Cyclops, Iceman & Angel) from the past, and brought them forward to the present, and then they became stranded there, so there are currently still young versions and old versions of those characters running around the main Marvel Universe (With the exception of Old Cyclops, who is dead at present. Also Old Jean was dead for quite a while, but is currently alive again.)
  • Regular Continuity Run-of-the-mill Wolverine died, and got replaced by like... 3 alternative option Wolverines. X-23 (who is a female clone of Wolverine) took up the mantle, and started calling herself Wolverine while wearing his costume. Furthermore Sabretooth's personality was altered and he became good (through convoluted mumbo jumbo I won't get into) and he took up some of Logan's hero slack after he died. Further Furthermore, Old Man Logan (who was from an alternate future, where most heroes were dead) was brought to the main continuity to fill 1/3 of the void. So yes, regular wolverine died and got replaced with Girl Wolverine, Wolverine-esque hero Sabretooh, and an Old version of himself.

    That was all a couple years ago though, and I'm pretty sure normal Wolverine is alive again now. I have no idea what's going on with the other 3, I'm a few years behind on my reading (mostly just read things later, online, with Marvel Unlimited. Haven't bought current comics since I was a teenager)

And those are just the big examples. There are plenty of small, forgotten and/or 1-off examples of alternate X-Men running around the main continuity.

As I said... I get enough of this crap in one of my other favorite fandoms, lol...

Bleh, yeah christ, that shit can stay far away from MK as far as I'm concerned.

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Well there are complications that come with time travel, mind you as NRS has already demonstrated with MK9 they don't seem to fully grasp said mentioned complications so whatever.

I'm just saying, magic is easier than reshuffling the entire time stream just to erase a few lines from Sonya's face.

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03/15/2019 05:08 PM EST

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You're not grasping the full notion of what I'm saying. That's NOT the only reason they're doing time travel.

They're doing it because-

1) Time travel is an easy and fun gimmick to please most of the fanbase with. "Oh look! Two Johnny's! Two Sonya's now! Two Liu's! See how crazy and cool this is?!!"

2) Time-Travel allows them to pretend as if they're taking some big risks (Killing Sonya! Oh my!) without having to actually take any big risks (Yeah, we killed one Sonya, but here's a younger Sonya for your troubles!)

This allowing them to having younger versions of Sonya, Johnny, Liu, Kung-Lao ect moving forward is just gravy.

The fact you keep acting as if this is something soo complicated shows the deterioration of this franchise. There's NOTHING complicated about this. You keep missing the point. It's A GIMMICK.

So no, it's not JUST about shaving a few lines off Sonya's face, it's also about tricking you into thinking MK11's story is as deep as the ocean when in reality it's about as deep as a kiddie pool.

If you still can't get it, then I don't know what to tell you. Enjoy it, I guess.

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03/15/2019 05:30 PM EST
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@Onaga

You're not grasping the full notion of what I'm saying. That's NOT the only reason they're doing time travel.

They're doing it because-

1) Time travel is an easy and fun gimmick to please most of the fanbase with. "Oh look! Two Johnny's! Two Sonya's now! Two Liu's! See how crazy and cool this is?!!"

2) Time-Travel allows them to pretend as if they're taking some big risks (Killing Sonya! Oh my!) without having to actually take any big risks (Yeah, we killed one Sonya, but here's a younger Sonya for your troubles!)

This allowing them to having younger versions of Sonya, Johnny, Liu, Kung-Lao ect moving forward is just gravy.

The fact you keep acting as if this is something soo complicated shows the deterioration of this franchise. There's NOTHING complicated about this. You keep missing the point. It's A GIMMICK.

So no, it's not JUST about shaving a few lines off Sonya's face, it's also about tricking you into thinking MK11's story is as deep as the ocean when in reality it's about as deep as a kiddie pool.

If you still can't get it, then I don't know what to tell you. Enjoy it, I guess.

I'm not missing anything dude. I'm just not bothering to get worked up and going into full rant mode and write paragraphs upon paragraphs explaining my issues with the story like you are. After MKX and my interactions with Vogel, I just don't give a shit anymore man.

At least most times.

I wasn't saying time travel was this mount Everest like concept, though it is easy to botch up. I was poking fun at how incompetent NRS has demonstrated themselves to be when approaching it.

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03/15/2019 05:43 PM EST
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@Onaga

You're not grasping the full notion of what I'm saying. That's NOT the only reason they're doing time travel.

They're doing it because-

1) Time travel is an easy and fun gimmick to please most of the fanbase with. "Oh look! Two Johnny's! Two Sonya's now! Two Liu's! See how crazy and cool this is?!!"

2) Time-Travel allows them to pretend as if they're taking some big risks (Killing Sonya! Oh my!) without having to actually take any big risks (Yeah, we killed one Sonya, but here's a younger Sonya for your troubles!)

This allowing them to having younger versions of Sonya, Johnny, Liu, Kung-Lao ect moving forward is just gravy.

The fact you keep acting as if this is something soo complicated shows the deterioration of this franchise. There's NOTHING complicated about this. You keep missing the point. It's A GIMMICK.

So no, it's not JUST about shaving a few lines off Sonya's face, it's also about tricking you into thinking MK11's story is as deep as the ocean when in reality it's about as deep as a kiddie pool.

If you still can't get it, then I don't know what to tell you. Enjoy it, I guess.

I'm not missing anything dude. I'm just not bothering to get worked up and going into full rant mode and write paragraphs upon paragraphs explaining my issues with the story like you are.

Those weren't paragraphs. Those were sentences. There's a difference. And just because I write at length doesn't mean I'm getting "worked up" or going on a rant- it means I'm simply responding to you. It's a message board, not a text message.

And nice swerve with your last post ;P You definitely were missing something by simply boiling down what I was saying to "Sonya's face lines".

But all is good!

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RE: So *Spoiler* dies at the end of Chapter 1
03/15/2019 06:29 PM EST
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I think that even if they don't Back to the Future her back to life it doesn't matter because people get over death like a cold in this series.

That just makes the story about mortals fighting to the death to save the world feel pointless. Using time-travel like that is just a cheap cop-out that requires the least amount of effort.

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I'm guessing when this game is said and done we'll end up with an entirely new status quo, combining whatever elements of past and present they damn well please in MK12.

I just hope we don't end up with multiple versions of the same character continuing to run around in future games. It's fun for a self contained story to see Johnny Cage talk to himself, but I don't want Young Johnny and Old Johnny both to be longterm characters... I get enough of that kind of crap as an X-Men fan, lol...

That's how I've seen this playing out since it was announced. Like a course correction where they combine the old timeline with the new. But this raises a lot of concern over what NRS decide to keep from each timeline. The newer timeline is the only time Johnny and Sonya got any character development - so I'd like to keep those more developed versions. Other things I'd like to keep are: Scorpion finally getting his revenge on Quan Chi, moving on, and rebuilding his clan; Mileena maturing and trying to make something of herself; Shao Kahn not being Kahn any more; etc.

On the other side... I'll be glad when the "revenant" arc is over. Such a mess.
And I prefer how MK1-3 played out in the original timeline. I'm not too concerned with the stuff after that.
NRS seem to be determined to retcon the hell out of the 1-3 era though. With their inconsistences and inability to make lasting changes, most character development is going to be reset / redone, or just dropped completely.

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How is this even trying hard? Time-traveling is one of the most basic tropes in a game like this, not to mention a perfect gimmick for NRS to exploit. "OH NO GUYS! LOOK! SONYA DIED! SEE? WE AIN'T FUCKING AROUND!"

"Oh don't cry too hard, Sonya fans! Here comes young Sonya to save the day! She ain't going anywhere!"

Haha, I mean this is right up NRS's gimmicky sophomoric outdated alley. There's nothing "hard" about this shit. They get their cake and eat it too while story nerds swallow every crumb.

As someone who follows this series mostly for the story and characters.... I'm really not a fan of the way the story has been going for a long time. This whole time-travel stuff was a bad idea from the start. It undermines story that came before it, and it will undermine things still yet to come. And it lowers the stakes, because no matter what happens now... time can just be changed to fix it. And if time isn't altered to fix things... people will be asking "why not"?

Having young Sonya replace actually-developed-Sonya is stupid. It's like hitting the reset button on the character.

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Totally agreed. Time-travel in this series is nothing but a crutch for the writers to have their cake and eat it too. If anything gets too risky- just rewind time.

I rue the day they ever decided to incorporate alternate timelines and time-travel into the plot, at least with the poor writers they have on board.

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03/15/2019 07:51 PM EST

Woah, the game already released and everyone played story mode to the end?

In the time travel "trope" usually time altering actions have dire consequences.

Considering that Kronika moved her ass for the first time in the saga just to undo Raiden's alternate timeline, I suspect it won't be just "Oh young Sonya is back yay".

I think that there will be a "monkey paw" effect in all this, and yes, this is an interesting turn of events. But it's Sonya we're talking about, people will throw shit at her and the game just because Rain, Tanya and some shitty 3d era character did not make in the roster.

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03/15/2019 07:53 PM EST

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Woah, the game already released and everyone played story mode to the end?

I don't have to taste a turd to know it's a turd.

People are simply speculating and giving their opinions on what we know so far. But that's right, we're not allowed to do that unless it's licking NRS balls.

And 3D era characters have NOTHING to do with this discussion. A shitty story is a shitty story.

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03/15/2019 09:41 PM EST
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@Onaga

You're not grasping the full notion of what I'm saying. That's NOT the only reason they're doing time travel.

They're doing it because-

1) Time travel is an easy and fun gimmick to please most of the fanbase with. "Oh look! Two Johnny's! Two Sonya's now! Two Liu's! See how crazy and cool this is?!!"

2) Time-Travel allows them to pretend as if they're taking some big risks (Killing Sonya! Oh my!) without having to actually take any big risks (Yeah, we killed one Sonya, but here's a younger Sonya for your troubles!)

This allowing them to having younger versions of Sonya, Johnny, Liu, Kung-Lao ect moving forward is just gravy.

The fact you keep acting as if this is something soo complicated shows the deterioration of this franchise. There's NOTHING complicated about this. You keep missing the point. It's A GIMMICK.

So no, it's not JUST about shaving a few lines off Sonya's face, it's also about tricking you into thinking MK11's story is as deep as the ocean when in reality it's about as deep as a kiddie pool.

If you still can't get it, then I don't know what to tell you. Enjoy it, I guess.

I'm not missing anything dude. I'm just not bothering to get worked up and going into full rant mode and write paragraphs upon paragraphs explaining my issues with the story like you are.

Those weren't paragraphs. Those were sentences. There's a difference. And just because I write at length doesn't mean I'm getting "worked up" or going on a rant- it means I'm simply responding to you. It's a message board, not a text message.

And nice swerve with your last post ;P You definitely were missing something by simply boiling down what I was saying to "Sonya's face lines".

But all is good!

I was speaking more in terms of your usual posts. Most of which I often agree with. We're on the same page. I just don't give enough of a shit to get as invested as you. All my steam has run out.

It wasn't a swerve by the by. My initial post, the whole lines on Sonya's face comment, was just me being sarcastic smart ass. I simplified it to that because again, I just don't take this that seriously at this point. Overall though I don't really see why it matters?

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Is it a cheap gimmick? ABSOLUTELY! But it's OUR faults. We throw a tantrum every time they leave our favorite characters out of a game. We beg and plead to put these characters in even if it makes no sense for the story they're trying to tell, so they have to find a way to accommodate as many of our requests as they reasonably can.

The way the story is going, all our favorites (with a couple exceptions) would eventually be aged out and unable to fight anymore. BUT the players just can't accept that, so they came up with away to reset these characters so they'd be young enough to continue fighting in Mortal Kombat.

I mean they killed half the cast in MK9 and players freaked the hell out because they took away their favorite characters. WE the fanbase won't let NRS move on and tell a fresh stories with a new cast of characters, to they're forced to resort to cheap time travel gimmicks to keep appeasing this "passionate" (read: whiny) fanbase.

I enjoyed the idea of making Lui Kang and Kitana the villains ruling the Netherrealm. I actually LIKE the Kombat "Kids" (Why the hell do we keep calling them kids or teens? they're in their 20s!). Yeah, Jacqui needed some better development and it looks like they're trying to do that. I LOVED Cassie, she was my main in MKX, and she seems even more enjoyable in MK11.

I would like to see MK reach a point where it's MOSTLY new characters with a COUPLE classic characters that make sense to be there because they don't age like ordinary humans. (Reverting Scorpion to undead for example, or making the Champion of MK ageless until the next tournament. Remember? That was a thing.)

Over the years I've developed new character concepts and plot ideas that would move the story forward while returning MK to it's roots as a tournament meant to protect a realm from being claimed by an invading force. Are they likely to show up? Of course not, because NRS doesn't really take ideas of that magnitude from the fans for legal reasons. Maybe a similar concept gets made by coincidence, but that's about it. (I'd made Liu Kang and Kitana's daughter, but since they were no longer the heroes, we got Johnny and Sonya's daughter who is understandably a VERY different character.)

We need to embrace change if we want them to stop using cheap gimmicks to satisfy us. Let them kill off our mains and embrace NEW mains. Otherwise we should stop kidding ourselves that they are doing anything but giving us what our guilty little hearts want.

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I'm guessing when this game is said and done we'll end up with an entirely new status quo, combining whatever elements of past and present they damn well please in MK12.

I just hope we don't end up with multiple versions of the same character continuing to run around in future games. It's fun for a self contained story to see Johnny Cage talk to himself, but I don't want Young Johnny and Old Johnny both to be longterm characters... I get enough of that kind of crap as an X-Men fan, lol...

Didn't they do something like that with Marvel comics? Aren't there like two Logans now or something? And billions of Spider People running around? Just makes your head spin.

There are a ton of Spider people running around, but I won't pretend to understand the details, as my best friend is the Spidey expert, not me, lol. X-Men are my wheelhouse...

Off the top of my head...

  • X-Man (who is an actual X-Man named X-Man) is an alternate version of Cable from the Age of Apocalypse, who jumped over to the main continuity a long time ago
  • Dark Beast is also an alternate version of Beast from the Age of Apocalypse, who jumped over to the main continuity a long time ago
  • More recently, Nightcrawler died, and shortly thereafter his Age of Apocalypse alternate reality doppelganger jumped over to the main continuity (seems to be a pattern) but I believe the AoA version is gone now, and I think original Nightcrawler has since been resurrected
  • Beast plucked younger versions of the original 5 X-Men (Himself, Jean, Cyclops, Iceman & Angel) from the past, and brought them forward to the present, and then they became stranded there, so there are currently still young versions and old versions of those characters running around the main Marvel Universe (With the exception of Old Cyclops, who is dead at present. Also Old Jean was dead for quite a while, but is currently alive again.)
  • Regular Continuity Run-of-the-mill Wolverine died, and got replaced by like... 3 alternative option Wolverines. X-23 (who is a female clone of Wolverine) took up the mantle, and started calling herself Wolverine while wearing his costume. Furthermore Sabretooth's personality was altered and he became good (through convoluted mumbo jumbo I won't get into) and he took up some of Logan's hero slack after he died. Further Furthermore, Old Man Logan (who was from an alternate future, where most heroes were dead) was brought to the main continuity to fill 1/3 of the void. So yes, regular wolverine died and got replaced with Girl Wolverine, Wolverine-esque hero Sabretooh, and an Old version of himself.

    That was all a couple years ago though, and I'm pretty sure normal Wolverine is alive again now. I have no idea what's going on with the other 3, I'm a few years behind on my reading (mostly just read things later, online, with Marvel Unlimited. Haven't bought current comics since I was a teenager)

And those are just the big examples. There are plenty of small, forgotten and/or 1-off examples of alternate X-Men running around the main continuity.

As I said... I get enough of this crap in one of my other favorite fandoms, lol...

The original 5 X-Men went back to their timeline, Old Cyke is alive again, and Laura is just X-23 once more now that regular Krusty-O Logan is around. Also Cable got killed by his own teenaged self, who's now running around on X-Force.

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RE: So *Spoiler* dies at the end of Chapter 1
03/16/2019 05:39 AM EST
ProfesserAhnka
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Woah, the game already released and everyone played story mode to the end?

I don't have to taste a turd to know it's a turd.

People are simply speculating and giving their opinions on what we know so far. But that's right, we're not allowed to do that unless it's licking NRS balls.

And 3D era characters have NOTHING to do with this discussion. A shitty story is a shitty story.

Personally, I started doubting the capacity of some people around here to distinguish between turd and chocolate in terms of story, of course.

If MK story modes are so shitty, why all the medias are praising them?

MK9 had its issues but was highly regarded as the best story mode made in fighting games up to that point

Mkx the same and I 'd say it raised the bar of story modes.

Then I read on MK Online that the story is shit just because it has a cop-out gimmick to save one of the most popular and loved character of the franchise, despite time travels being part of the MK lore at least since 2011.(they were considered for the Konquest mode of Deception too) and that so far only chapter 1 has been revealed and not even in its entirety...

So story is shit, Sonya dies and kinda doesn't, Rain and Khameleon are nowhere to be seen, so story must be shit without any hope, despite not knowing anything of it, if not a good 75% of chapter 1.

Great analys yours...