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posted04/28/2021 02:26 PM (UTC)by
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NorthernKnick A.K.A. The ALLFATHER
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Like i've perfected every character I play with the highest combo and resets they have to all their reversals and crushing blows also corner and envirement combos but im still beat by scrubs that spam the same unreactible Overhead and low 3 hitters and throws. This game is so broken on many levels But Frame Data has Destroyed MK its making People Spam the most optimal Moves and only The Most optimal Moves, it encourages bad gameplay, but I'd settle for fixed Wakeup's. Untill they are fixed I wont be playing. I'm sure it plays well on pro Level with certain rules but when you play Random Matchmaking its nothing but low pokes enhanced stand alone specials and small combo frametrap exploits on a tryhard level It Doesnt seem like the Devs are Catering to a Mature Audiance cuz this crap is fundamental. If I was part of the NRS team im sorry I'd be Embarrased to call this game anything but Beautifully Broken.

Bye. Call it Good if you want I could care Less atm. Ill be Playing MK9 where skill meens something atleast till wakup's are Fixed and skill will barely overcome spam in MK11. At all Cost's please Fix it and Make the wakup invincible Frames "Invincible" so they actually work and do what they are supposed to.

Scratch that ill be Playing Hood Outlaws & Legends I Pre-Ordered and will be getting Early Access. I am Really Hoping This Game is Going to be The Good One but I wont be Holding My Breath I really havnt seen much of anything thats really Blown my Mind Gameplay Mechanic's Wise From This Gen of Consoles It's all Been Beautifully Graphiced but Created & Catered to the everday Kasual Spammer of Optimized Skilless Frametrapped Plays. But....I GOT DREAMS GOD DAMN IT!!!! I Just want the Old Style MK world Rules Back that make sense without Variations and Frame Data Holding me Back That's What I Fell in Love With.... I'm So Sorry If I Sound Like a Dick but I Never Wanted to see an Optimal MK. I'm Seriously Crying.

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NorthernKnick A.K.A. The ALLFATHER
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05/12/2021 07:11 PM (UTC)Edited 05/12/2021 07:13 PM (UTC)
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Like This is the Type of Stuff I do without Problems But I just get wrecked by Ppl who literaly throw unreactible 3 hitters over and over. Like come on nobody else is having this problem?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k9v1w-ZYSo

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MKDennis1980
05/13/2021 12:49 AM (UTC)
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Like This is the Type of Stuff I do without Problems But I just get wrecked by Ppl who literaly throw unreactible 3 hitters over and over. Like come on nobody else is having this problem?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k9v1w-ZYSo

MK11 is bad in a lot of ways. I dont even wanna talk about it...

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05/13/2021 02:06 AM (UTC)Edited 05/13/2021 03:43 AM (UTC)
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Like I Rarely even play matches anymore I Screw off in Practice with stuff like this.

Dont worry about anything before 3:38 I was Just seeing what was possible with the most Fatal and Crushing Blows in one combo...But I am Pretty sure everything after the 3:38 mark is possible online. Click!!! And yes the Last one is a 45% combo into another Guarenteed 30%er ill try it out if it works thats a 75% combo people.

Edit: It can be dun without the uppercut I know this much but I dont know if it has to be the uppercut that has to be used straight from a kounter or punish of a high attack or if you only need to have the 1st hit of the kombo be a kounter or pinish then getting the krushing blow from the uppercut mid kombo.

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MKDennis1980
05/13/2021 09:24 AM (UTC)
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Like I Rarely even play matches anymore I Screw off in Practice with stuff like this.

Dont worry about anything before 3:38 I was Just seeing what was possible with the most Fatal and Crushing Blows in one combo...But I am Pretty sure everything after the 3:38 mark is possible online. Click!!! And yes the Last one is a 45% combo into another Guarenteed 30%er ill try it out if it works thats a 75% combo people.

Edit: It can be dun without the uppercut I know this much but I dont know if it has to be the uppercut that has to be used straight from a kounter or punish of a high attack or if you only need to have the 1st hit of the kombo be a kounter or pinish then getting the krushing blow from the uppercut mid kombo.

It is fun to see you play with all those crazy combo's, no doubt. The video made me laugh too haha.

But the fact that a dummy can beat a skilled player is just...uugghh... unbelievable. It tells everything about this unbalanced game.

I still play MK4 with some friends, that game had that basic arcade fighter style. Everybody the same moves with no f#ck1ng frame data bullshit. There you can really see who is a good fighter. Its very basic butt still very fun to play.

MKX was also unbalanced but I really liked the game. I like the style and darkness in it. The game just looks good and plays fast.

MK11 is collecting dust in my closet, havent played it for allmost a year...

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05/14/2021 03:04 AM (UTC)
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Over all my years Growing up playing MK i must have played all the MK titles Story, towers and 2 player with my Brothers and Friends but xbox 360 was the 1st Console I ever Put oniline I had all the playststions up untill then but I was just one of those kids always outside and didnt have internet so I didnt even know what online gaming was in this small Hick Town I grew up in. So the 1st MK that I Really got Good at Was MK vs DC then MK9 dont get me wrong cuz I very Much like all MK installments but when I say a MK Game isnt good im talking about the actual set fighting world rules of the title (Allowances and Restrictions) of Movesets into Juggles Combos and Specials and all out flow along with Balancing Over Everything cuz when it comes to Darkness and ambiance theme I havnt seen a Title yet that I did not Like.

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balkcsiaboot
05/14/2021 10:16 AM (UTC)
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So you're saying... you're SO GOOD but are getting beat by tactics that you are fully aware of and know will happen?

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05/14/2021 05:48 PM (UTC)Edited 05/18/2021 06:50 AM (UTC)
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Well if thats what floats your goat. But what I am saying if you know simple Math Fundamentals you can Obviously see Spamming the most Optimal and UNREACTABLE overhead and low 3 hitters Will overtake skill yes mixed with Krushing blows. This is why there is rules set in the Pro League it would'nt be very Proffessional watching a Bunch of 2 year olds Playing this way on a tryhard Level Because im certainly not having fun playing this way in pretty much every random matchmaking set.

Like idk if your one that thinks that YOU'RE SO GOOD by Spamming 3 Skilless Frame Trapped 3 hitters that will take half a health bar to get a crushing blow that takes the other half but WHAT I AM TRUELLY SAYING IS IF YOU NEED MK TO PLAY THIS Then You are New to the Scene and do not know what MK is Truely about.

And what I meen by MK playing like this is Catering to People that need to play like this too win it Obviously has to do with WB's Short Comings at the bank so NRS was Either Forced to or Decided to Cater MKX and MK11 to the New Players so Stupid Noob Tactics Like This Will Win Against all LongTerm Fans Skills They've Aquired since 1992 because if it was not made this way everybody new to this Title Wouldnt have stood any chance and would just never played again. But this game is so kasual friendly it may have Gained these new Generation of fans but I bet it Lost alot more. But they figured that Long term fans would Maybe support them anyways which I will but I wont be Blindly Marching into a dark alley Quietly.

Also if you are wondering why I wont or cant beat them the same way....I can and have many times but playing this way is so annoying and stupid id rather just quit and take the L then waste my time doing fundamental Moves for an Easy W. I'd Rather Progress Myself in a Constructive Manor Then Be Immature With The Fundamentals on a Tryhard Lvl of a Guessing Game Cuz when Ppl do this Constantly it forces you to play in a certain Manor aswell like fighting Fire with Fire this is Just not the way MK has ever been when Ppl spammed back in the day you would laugh with pitty and let them take almost all your health while Rolling a Blunt then Smash their head in with skill based Combos with 1% health left. Id Rather go play That Flash Card Memory Game then have to fight on a tryhard lvl of guessing will he go overhead low or Grab one more time Spamming back for a crushing blow and not being able to play in the style i feel fit for the situation but its what I have to do or lose cuz this is the way it is in these newer titles. There is not any mid fight options to choos from you have to do the one and only offensive and defensive options set. It's a Scripted Fight every time when played Optimally and I Dont like watching the same movie 50 times in one day. Especially when it's not a good or impressive movie.

If you're into being a repetitive loser who think's you have skill by spamming unreactable Optmal Frame Trapping Frame Data 3 Hitter 50/50's with Broken WakeUp Attacks I'd have to say go fight for the South in a Civil War Reenactment Then I'd have to say MK is Not the spot for this Frame data Stuff. Exploits Shouldnt Be in The Game Nevermind Calling them Tactics and Yes Exploit's By Definition I can see if it ook skill to frame trap people into a 50/50 that actually had a good Payoff like MK9 does but Frame Data and No low Jab Cool down Frames are wrecking it for everybody.

And yes like I said I have Played with Pros and won, and know that every Pro on the Circuit has Came Across this kinda stuff alot more then once and this is why there is rules against using them in Pro Circuit. This is not what I'd Be Teaching My Kids that they will Automatically be the best overnight beating Pros because of Unreactable Exploits (Exploit's by Definition) are What Video games are about today. Because it Never was this way Before This Gen of Consoles. But every game this gen is nothing but Optimal Exploits its not Just MK And The kids will think its always been this way cuz they dont know any better and I dont want them thinking this Either. I'm really starting to think its all just a big money Scheme but I really dont want to go there.

Ever Since xbox one and PS4 dropped gaming has been nothing but a Big Salt Factory thats been Glorifying Spamming Exploits it's quite a mess. There is No Avoiding it Unless you sit back and zone and this is just as bad that calling Projectile spamming Zoning cuz the true Zoning technique didnt involve projectiles it was litereally just back dashing too get your opponent to wiff then punishing it. Now they made most of the overhead and low spammed 3 hitters reach further then your dash they have litterally glorified Spamming Exploits if you ever played a MK b4 MKX in a competitive way you would know this. Some of these up close exploits can be Blocked if you guess right but im sure they wil catch you with the next 2 or 3 Its Basically flipping a coin once they get you caught blocking the 1st hit you cannot get out of it you're best option by winning the coin toss is eating 25% chip damage untill its your turn and if you dont do the same (play Optimal) you eat it again. That is if you dont guess wrong and eat a 50% 3 hitter into an Amped special krushing blow. And I dont think this is one of the better styled MK mechanichs cuz of the Lack of skill involved. Its basically called going threw the motion of the fastes safe on block 3 hit combo untill you get sick of doing it if they read (guess) the pattern of your unreactable overhead or low hit in the 2 or 3 different 3 hitter combos till you want to put a throw in there or an amped special. Like you can keep this going by stopping short dropping a 3 hitter and doing just 2 hits of the combo then going into another when your opponent doesnt expect it. Basicaly doing infinite kombo resets on almost every kombo starter its absord. Back on MK9 you could do this but it was reactable doing true resets involved much more skill and the more skillfull (larger the combo was into and out of the reset) the Better the damage payoff would be NOT HAVING FUNDAMENTAL STANDALONE SPECIALS, COMBOS OR UPPERCUTS TAKE HALF YOUR HP WITH A KRUSHING BLOW. Also things werent restricted so you had choices mid fight. You could do any special out of any combo basically giving you alot of your own choices midfight not scripting the motions with variation abilities b4 the fight starts. There was no overhead a High hit low blocking targets and a low hit standing ones. Also there was set world rules on what was safe on and not safe on block I dont remember exactly what they all were but a kick was a kick and a punch was a punch there wasnt better faster kicks or punches to spam leading to ppl spamming this punch or that kick everybody had same health and did the same damages at the same speed (True Balance)

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These last 2 Installments are totally different games it totally goes against everything the game has taught you to do in every other MK title it reversed everything...it used to be if you spammed it was frowned upon and the only way to be good was having combo skills...Now Combo Skills are Beat out by spam this just doesnt make sense its totaly Back Asswards!!

Is there anything else you want me to restate there Chief?

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05/26/2021 10:39 AM (UTC)
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These last 2 Installments are totally different games it totally goes against everything the game has taught you to do in every other MK title it reversed everything...it used to be if you spammed it was frowned upon and the only way to be good was having combo skills...Now Combo Skills are Beat out by spam this just doesnt make sense its totaly Back Asswards!!

Is there anything else you want me to restate there Chief?

Okay now THIS is something I can agree with: NRS totally scrapping their fighting system each game and rebuilding it from scratch. This the most annoying fucking shit ever. I enjoyed the "3D era" games because they would build upon their core fighting mechanics and make improvements (except stupid air kombat). I've honestly stopped playing MK because of this "learn our brand new shit" way of doing things.

And for the love of God, if it's going to be another 12 paragraph essay then no, please do not restate anything.

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NorthernKnick A.K.A. The ALLFATHER
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05/27/2021 08:53 AM (UTC)Edited 05/30/2021 02:29 AM (UTC)
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These last 2 Installments are totally different games it totally goes against everything the game has taught you to do in every other MK title it reversed everything...it used to be if you spammed it was frowned upon and the only way to be good was having combo skills...Now Combo Skills are Beat out by spam this just doesnt make sense its totaly Back Asswards!!

Is there anything else you want me to restate there Chief?

Okay now THIS is something I can agree with: NRS totally scrapping their fighting system each game and rebuilding it from scratch. This the most annoying fucking shit ever. I enjoyed the "3D era" games because they would build upon their core fighting mechanics and make improvements (except stupid air kombat). I've honestly stopped playing MK because of this "learn our brand new shit" way of doing things.

And for the love of God, if it's going to be another 12 paragraph essay then no, please do not restate anything.

Lol FR they need to stop trying to fix stuff that aint broken specially When they were trial and erroring it for 18 years. They finally perfected it in MK9 2011 there wasnt Exploits and if there were they took so much skill to do only like 0.02% Could even do them 50% of the time. There was no infinite frame trap pressure exploits you could do with knowing how to do an over head a low and a front flip nevermind all this infinite poke spam with broken wakups to top it off. But yes switching up everything every game release is very annoying like I want New Moves and New Combos when a New Game Releases But Switching The actual World Rules is what im talking about. Like why cant you make new kombos with different special moves withoutout adding infinite annoyances along with it?

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07/02/2021 10:39 AM (UTC)
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I am definitely just a casual that has played every MK on release. MK11 is the first one I just dont love. Combo lists are a third of MKX which mean less options for me. Watching MKX tournaments was balls to the wall exciting ! Watching MK11 is like watching paint dry. Everyone using the same " plus frame " moves over and over again mixed with low poking as opposed to ninja killer blasting buddy with 5 mid air fireballs with Liu Kang in MKX. I love juggles and creating combos and MK11 doesnt have a lot to work with to create anything fancy. Not to mention the slow pace of the game compared to the lightning fast speed of X. Just my opinion.

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07/02/2021 06:12 PM (UTC)Edited 07/02/2021 06:23 PM (UTC)
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I Agree with everything you say Except the change of speed I believe all input speeds to be the same but the drop speeds from juggling your enemy dont seem to be on at all in 11 and messes up alot of flow... Like some are Dead On. Like hitting your opponent out the air with a 1 punch into a dash 1,2 so dead on all you gotta do is mash the 1 button after the dash then press 2 when u see the 1 thrown its like impossible to drop... Then you get things like kung laos twin kicks out of the Kung tang Kombo Cancelled into spiritual guidance. After Kung Tang and spritual Guidance the twin kicks are nearly impossible to get in from the speed difference of the juggle drop not to mention the flow of all the combo before the twin kicks. Just all the flow is messed because the speed of juggles dropping and difference in the number of button inputs in combos befor inputting the special NOT The Speed of The Button Inputs Persay. But for sure there is not alot of optilns your opponent knows every combo your gonna do b4 the match starts if theyre Experienced enuff dew to Variations telling them the only moves your allowed to do with the 1 combo string available. The Only difference in the variations is basically a high or low special input into the only one good midscreen combo. Not alot of options at all.

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