Where is the location of Outworld?
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posted01/11/2019 01:11 AM (UTC)by
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I hope MK 11 give us lots of information on how the world is arranged. How does Shang goes from our ocean to the Lost Sea? Are those worlds (Outworld, Chaos realm, Edenia, etc) in one big circle like in the movie Dark Tower? It seems that way because they use portals to travel huge distances as well.

Any info would be really appreciated.

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lastfighter89
01/11/2019 11:52 AM (UTC)
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Quite a few years ago a map of Outworld was published in the krypt of Deadly Alliance or Deception, can't remember.

An HD version of the same map was a background in the mobile version of mkx, but without names.

No, I doubt they will ever make a coherent world because Ed Boon and his team love to change things a lot.

In MKX they couldn't even bother to make Outworld's sky purple.

Heck, not even Netherrealm has been coherently designed considering how technological it was in mk Sub-zero mythology.

If SEIDO and Chaos Realm are to come back I wouldn't be surprised to see them very different from their Deception representation.

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Ninja_Mime
01/11/2019 12:38 PM (UTC)
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lastfighter89
In MKX they couldn't even bother to make Outworld's sky purple.

Considering that they specifically wrote dialogue to establish the fact that Outworld's skies are not always purple despite popular belief, I would not call that inconsistency. It's just expansion of a concept.

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01/11/2019 01:23 PM (UTC)
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In MKX they couldn't even bother to make Outworld's sky purple.

Considering that they specifically wrote dialogue to establish the fact that Outworld's skies are not always purple despite popular belief, I would not call that inconsistency. It's just expansion of a concept.

In Deception konquest mode it was purple though

I don't remember a single outworld stage with a different sky before mkx.

Not that is a bad thing, but inconsistent yes.

As Shujinko roamed that realm.

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01/11/2019 02:15 PM (UTC)Edited 01/11/2019 02:17 PM (UTC)
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Maybe the behaviour of night and day in Outworld is really odd (different from Earthrealm). Might be why the sky is not always purple in the future (that being MKX) because it can change unpredictably.

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01/11/2019 04:45 PM (UTC)
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lastfighter89

Quite a few years ago a map of Outworld was published in the krypt of Deadly Alliance or Deception, can't remember.

An HD version of the same map was a background in the mobile version of mkx, but without names.

No, I doubt they will ever make a coherent world because Ed Boon and his team love to change things a lot.

In MKX they couldn't even bother to make Outworld's sky purple.

Heck, not even Netherrealm has been coherently designed considering how technological it was in mk Sub-zero mythology.

If SEIDO and Chaos Realm are to come back I wouldn't be surprised to see them very different from their Deception representation.

I am really happy to see you bring this up, as this is something that pissed me off royaly about MKX. That design and explaination for Outworld was a slap in the face to fans like us, who have been around for a while. In MK2 the Outworld sky is purple hued (The Wastelands stage, for example). In MK6, you roam Outworld day and night as Shujinko the sky is purple hued!

So what goes on with MKX? They have Kung Jin say (IIRC) "Oh, the Outworld being purple? That was just a myth." Something bs like that. So they are like just forget about all those years of playing Mortal Kombat, watching the movie, etc. - now Outworld looks no different than Albuquerque New Mexico. Terrible.

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01/11/2019 04:49 PM (UTC)
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Asesino

I hope MK 11 give us lots of information on how the world is arranged. How does Shang goes from our ocean to the Lost Sea? Are those worlds (Outworld, Chaos realm, Edenia, etc) in one big circle like in the movie Dark Tower? It seems that way because they use portals to travel huge distances as well.

Any info would be really appreciated.

This is a good question, though I doubt we will see much in the way of answers in MK11. You know the most curious thing regarding the realms layout? Shang Tsung's Island. So, his island is here on Earth... yet, technically, it's also sort of... in Outworld. That was always something I found strange. The suggestion is that Earthrealm and Outworld are close, maybe even parallel to each other.

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ErmaSco
01/11/2019 05:03 PM (UTC)
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I was actually pissed off at them changing the whole purple sky unless they somehow link it to Shao Kahn.

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Masr
01/11/2019 05:12 PM (UTC)Edited 01/11/2019 05:15 PM (UTC)
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The Yin Yang island's type of changing state is a good example of the point i was trying to make (partly in Outworld). Look at the altering sky.

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Gillbob316
01/11/2019 09:14 PM (UTC)
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If I remember what I learned in MKD's Konquest Mode correctly, all six major realms are each one roughly square-shaped plot of land, that you can walk across in about 5 minutes, but otherwise floating in the ether, connected to one another through a single portal that leads to a central hub with a decorative display shelf.

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01/12/2019 02:32 AM (UTC)Edited 01/12/2019 02:34 AM (UTC)
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If the focus of the thread has shifted to "How often Outworld had a purple sky before MKX," then...

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01/12/2019 03:09 AM (UTC)Edited 01/12/2019 03:17 AM (UTC)
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If the focus of the thread has shifted to "How often Outworld had a purple sky before MKX," then...

Asinine post. See: Mortal Kombat: Deception, Konquest; See: Mortal Kombat X, Story Mode, Chapter 4...

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01/12/2019 03:20 AM (UTC)
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The Yin Yang island's type of changing state is a good example of the point i was trying to make (partly in Outworld). Look at the altering sky.

That's a great example! That's an island on Earth, but seems to exist in a strange place time, where two steps in any direction, and you're apparently in Outworld with the weird tree snakes. This is why I think it's safe to say Earthrealm and Outworld are close, if not parallel, realms.

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01/12/2019 04:19 AM (UTC)
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Asinine post. See: Mortal Kombat: Deception, Konquest; See: Mortal Kombat X, Story Mode, Chapter 4...

How is this asinine? In MK2, of the 6 or 7 stages that took place outside, only one had purple sky (Maybe two, depending on how you view Kahn's arena), and that game was entirely set in Outworld.

In fact between MK2 and X, Outworld stages have enough variety that it's hard to say if the sky ever had a consistent color, because the only purple skied Outworld levels were the Wasteland (And its remakes in Shaolin Monks, Armageddon, and 9), and the Konquest map in Deception.

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MortalMushroom
01/12/2019 03:29 PM (UTC)
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This is more of an opinion than a carefully thought out analysis, but I always viewed outworld as a realm that is quite a bit chaotic as far as the layout goes. It has merged with many other realms, and later in thr series it starts losing realms such as Edenia and the vampire realm. Therefore the size of the realm is always changing, but ultimately would be an enormous realm, several times the size of earth.

The game never really explains what happens when outworld conquers a realm, as far as I know. I imagine the realms become merged through permanent portals or rifts that would allow Outworld beings to pour into the conquered realm freely. From there they could wipe out the species they dislike, terraform the land, and basically integrate it with Outworld. If you think about the portal stage, I imagine each portal taking you to what used to be a different realm.

Long story short, I think outworld would be really hard to map out because it is made of many different realms

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Gillbob316
01/12/2019 07:43 PM (UTC)
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To be honest, I never really thought of Outworld's sky being one particular color once before that comment in MKX. And I frankly think we're overthinking it now.

I never thought, "the sky in Outworld is purple" so much as "The sky over the wastelands in Outworld happens to look purple in this stage"

Skies aren't one color. Our sky on Earth isn't one color. We call it "blue" generically, because on a clearly sunny day, it often is, but the sky right outside my window in Illinois right now, where it's snowing, is dead white. Not a hint of blue in it. It can also be grey, black, red, orange, yellow or even (yes!) purple, depending entirely upon the light, weather and time of day.

Maybe the purple rocks in the wastelands play with the way the light reflects at twilight and it just makes the sky look more purple than the sandy areas of the golden desert where the sky looks more placid. Thus endeth all the explanation needed.

I'll grant you, the sky being purple 24/7 in deception's konquest mode remains an anomaly, but there are A LOT of things about A LOT of topics in that Konquest mode that remain an anomaly... so I don't think we need to harp on this one like it's the end all be all source of canon.

If I can look out my window and see a sky that's white, while someone on the other end of the globe sees one that's orange, there's no reason someone at twilight in the wastelands couldn't see a purple one, while someone in the morning staring out the window of Kahn's palace could see a blue one. We only spend about 2 minutes in these stages... not like... a whole day/night cycle.

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Masr
05/06/2021 06:57 PM (UTC)
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Outworld used to give off that Planet Mongo/Flash Gordon vibe (with the radiant sky, cloud colours and atmosphere) which stood out most to me in MK2. Aspects of Ming the Merciless reminded me of Shao Kahn (both being emperors) and Quan Chi. Consider Flash is DC too.

I compare this -

To this fortress, in ways -

Always loved everything about this representation of Outworld, reminded me of Mongo -

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05/07/2021 02:15 AM (UTC)
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To add something, John Tobias wrote that he imagined Shang Tsung's Island as a bridge between Earthrealm and Outworld.

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05/09/2021 04:29 PM (UTC)Edited 05/09/2021 04:33 PM (UTC)
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I've Never Even Given this any thought but your all right I'd Love to see some of these old lighing Hues Remastered in Remastered Stages TBH The More of this kinda Stuff the better basically this is the stuff I very much want to come back untill they stop putting these optimal timings and variation's in the game. It's Basically the main focus and buying purpose for me. But when The Hardcore Root's Make a Comeback it will be back too and all about Mastering Kombos and Technique for me. But there Really is nothing like seeing these old 90's CGI type Things Upgraded into the New Century lol.

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Masr
05/09/2021 08:44 PM (UTC)Edited 05/09/2021 11:18 PM (UTC)
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The spherical object on Shao Kahn's sharpened pole (when seated in Kahn's Arena of MK2) could be to do with Blood Magik, (like how Soul Cage's contain souls of great importance) or be the blood used to create Skarlet.

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05/11/2021 07:50 AM (UTC)Edited 05/11/2021 06:43 PM (UTC)
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"The spherical object on Shao Kahn's sharpened pole (when seated in Kahn's Arena of MK2) could be to do with Blood Magik, (like how Soul Cage's contain souls of great importance) or be the blood used to create Skarlet. "

I'm Thinking maybe one of the Elder Gods Blood Line Samples. I'm pretty sure Raiden Has a Staff Like This In MK11 aswell but it is not Spherical and its name is Staff of the Gods.

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Masr
05/11/2021 08:33 PM (UTC)Edited 05/11/2021 08:46 PM (UTC)
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"The spherical object on Shao Kahn's sharpened pole (when seated in Kahn's Arena of MK2) could be to do with Blood Magik, (like how Soul Cage's contain souls of great importance) or be the blood used to create Skarlet. "

I'm Thinking maybe one of the Elder Gods Blood Line Samples. I'm pretty sure Raiden Has a Staff Like This In MK11 aswell but it is not Spherical and its name is Staff of the Gods.

I marginally suspect the magical sharpened pole was passed on or stolen from Onaga, when he was Dragon King.

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NorthernKnick A.K.A. The ALLFATHER
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05/12/2021 01:52 AM (UTC)
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Well Raiden Claimed Da Bish. Lol.

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Masr
05/12/2021 01:01 PM (UTC)Edited 05/12/2021 01:04 PM (UTC)
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The rod instrument could also be used for realm merging, although Elder Gods should be responsible for any realm melding (and permit these actions).

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05/12/2021 01:31 PM (UTC)Edited 05/12/2021 01:48 PM (UTC)
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Would'nt merging two worlds ultimately kill half of both planets? I remember in MK vs DC there was alot of rocks and big world chunks floating in orbit from being broke off the two worlds that merged... But the one that confused me was the endenia and wonder womans map it wasnt just two worlds merging it was the actual Universesus Merging there was alot of chaos.

Also on a a 2nd Note I Thought outworld was already merged with Edenia im not sure about this its just what I Thought Unless Shao Kahn and Sindel Decided not to merge Their realms IDK.

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