Question about Dragon Medallion
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posted03/13/2012 09:14 AM (UTC)by
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Hey all, I have a question about everyone's favourite cranky ninja cyborg, Sektor.

In his ending, his dad warns him that wearing the Dragon Medallion brings great power, but at a cost. Does anyone know what power it brings? And also, what potential costs it has (it's not just like, having a permanent itchy rash on the neck or something is it?) :P
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Icebaby
02/29/2012 11:11 PM (UTC)
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Whelp... I remember a favorite character of mine, Frost, and her ending. She snagged the medallion away from Sub-Zero, and because she wasn't really properly trained to maintain it's power... She froze herself. So, you basically have to have the ability to maintain such power that it brings, otherwise it'll just have some nasty consequence affecting you. That's where I'm going with it.

At a cost... Well...
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03/01/2012 12:05 AM (UTC)
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Ah, interesting... I wonder if the medallion will mean that Sektor will gain some ice ninja powers or if instead it will buff his existing technological features.

I also wonder now if he'll have the capacity to handle the medallion or instead blow himself up accidentally or something :P
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Zmoke
03/01/2012 12:54 AM (UTC)
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The Dragon Medallion might not focus on the cryomancer abilities solely but the primary skills of a warrior overall. Sektor could become faster and spawn dangerously explosive rockets with some furious paint work.
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NoobSaibot5
03/01/2012 01:38 AM (UTC)
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First, the Medallion proves ownership of the Lin Kuei. If you wear it, it denotes your rank as grandmaster.

Obviously to become grandmaster, you'd need an amazing amount of experience, discipline, knowledge and strength to surpass the other warriors in your clan and be a figure of authority and dominance. It's why Frost froze herself upon stealing it, she lacked the strength of will and discipline required to control the power it brought, and as a result fell victim to her own powers. Sub-Zero however had more experience and discipline, and was capable of harnessing the medallion's power in past games, which in turn amplified his own Kori abilities.

It seems as if the medallion has no *specific* power, rather it just enhances the natural powers of it's wearer. So say for example if Smoke wore it, his teleportation and gas related abilities would be enhanced further than what they are now.
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03/01/2012 01:50 AM (UTC)
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Ah yeah, that makes sense.

Seeing as Sektor had, as the end-game announcer said, "proven himself worthy" and the fact that he had to smash through some Lin Kuei guards, I wonder if he has the ability to handle the medallion. I guess we'll find out in the next game...

(Assuming this is a canon ending; he could very well have permanently been killed by Nightwolf during the temple part of the story... this would make me have a sad though) D`:
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03/01/2012 01:52 AM (UTC)
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The Dragon Medallion enhanced Subby's Kori powers, but don't forget it also caused him to age significantly
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03/01/2012 08:31 AM (UTC)
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Miks47 Wrote:
The Dragon Medallion enhanced Subby's Kori powers, but don't forget it also caused him to age significantly

Therefore, Sektor's going to rust at an accelerated rate! grin
But yes, that's a detail everyone forgets; the amulet ages the wearer. That's why Sub-Zero looks so much older in DA compared to all the other fighters, even though he's in his late 30s/early 40s (to compare, Kano's in his mid/late 40s). Considering Sektor's powers are all tech-based (minus his teleportation), I'd imagine that the possibility of his enhancements backfiring are pretty high if he doesn't know how to control them well, and since they are relatively new for him...
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03/01/2012 02:03 PM (UTC)
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Hmm. An old, but potentially more awesome Sektor. I think I could handle that :P

Interestingly though, his dad's spirit entered the medallion after Sektor killed him... I wonder if this will make Sektor's amulet experience run a bit different to Subby's?

(Is his dad gonna communicate with him in some potentially lame ghostly manner?) :/ EDIT - Or go full-on Mufasa-style with it? :P
Was it ever proven the medallion ages the wearer? I thought Sub-Zero's hair was just frosty because his powers were augmented.



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RazorsEdge701
03/02/2012 05:46 AM (UTC)
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He didn't just have "frosted" hair, it was old-man-gray and his face had gotten super-wrinkled.
As far as the "great price", I'm betting it's directly related to how it sucked out the Grandmaster's soul when Sektor took it from him. It never did that to Sub-Zero in the old timeline, sure, but he wasn't wearing it as long. The Grandmaster's had it presumably for most of his life. Maybe that and Sub's aging are related though, like the longer you wear it, the more energy it drains from your life?
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NoobSaibot5
03/02/2012 05:18 PM (UTC)
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So that would mean it drains youth in exchange for power? I'm surprised Shang Tsung never took interest in trying to steal it, considering he can restore said youth with his soul steal.
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03/04/2012 12:06 AM (UTC)
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Well Subby aged and then went all...blue-ish..and his scar disapeared, and most of his hair fell out.

Who knows how it would effect Sektor.
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03/04/2012 01:41 AM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
As far as the "great price", I'm betting it's directly related to how it sucked out the Grandmaster's soul when Sektor took it from him. It never did that to Sub-Zero in the old timeline, sure, but he wasn't wearing it as long. The Grandmaster's had it presumably for most of his life. Maybe that and Sub's aging are related though, like the longer you wear it, the more energy it drains from your life?

Odds are the soul-sucking bit only happened because the Grandmaster died wearing it, but that's an interesting notion, that it not only ages you and maximizes your power, it significantly shortens your lifespan...
Another interesting thought, what if the Dragon Medallion captures the souls of all its wearers and when they pass on, their power feeds the medallion? Not much of a curse if you ask me, so I'm kind of hoping it's something more serious than severe aging and having your soul consumed worse than if Shang got to it.
Which reminds me, is it still canon about how the cyborgs have no souls? What if the medallion's incompatible with Sektor since he technically has no soul? What if the medallion reawakens his soul and now that his body's covered in metal, he endures constant pain to be a cyborg and have so much power?
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03/04/2012 04:42 AM (UTC)
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Jerrod Wrote:
Another interesting thought, what if the Dragon Medallion captures the souls of all its wearers and when they pass on, their power feeds the medallion?


I was thinking the same thing, yeah, that that's where the medallion's power comes from.
As for the cyborgs losing their souls, I don't expect it to still be canon in the Rebootverse since it's not mentioned anywhere in the game and Sektor still has a personality.
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03/04/2012 05:31 PM (UTC)
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Jerrod Wrote:
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
As far as the "great price", I'm betting it's directly related to how it sucked out the Grandmaster's soul when Sektor took it from him. It never did that to Sub-Zero in the old timeline, sure, but he wasn't wearing it as long. The Grandmaster's had it presumably for most of his life. Maybe that and Sub's aging are related though, like the longer you wear it, the more energy it drains from your life?

Odds are the soul-sucking bit only happened because the Grandmaster died wearing it, but that's an interesting notion, that it not only ages you and maximizes your power, it significantly shortens your lifespan...
Another interesting thought, what if the Dragon Medallion captures the souls of all its wearers and when they pass on, their power feeds the medallion? Not much of a curse if you ask me, so I'm kind of hoping it's something more serious than severe aging and having your soul consumed worse than if Shang got to it.
Which reminds me, is it still canon about how the cyborgs have no souls? What if the medallion's incompatible with Sektor since he technically has no soul? What if the medallion reawakens his soul and now that his body's covered in metal, he endures constant pain to be a cyborg and have so much power?


I'm not sure about the soul part, Sektor seemed to maintain his personality, even laughing during fights and what not.

Cyrax seems very under control, and so did Cyber Sub before Jax fixed up him, then he seemed back to normal.

Its not confirmed but I'm my opinion they seem to have scrapped the soulless thing.
Souless may still apply while their mind supressing programming is active.
The cyber initiative will eliminate insubordination...

I wonder if the amulet gives the wearer the wisdom, and whatnot of all the previous Grandmasters. Sektor's father may be the reason his programming seems to degrade in the original timeline.



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Scar_Subby
03/05/2012 05:04 AM (UTC)
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I don't know guys. Everyone seems to have the idea that the Dragon Medallion is a curse.

In the old timeline the most it did was age Sub-Zero probably a good twenty years. That's about it though.

Besides that it supposedly gave him incredible power. That doesn't really seem like a curse to me. It's a small consequence which is what Sektor's ending seemed to imply. I would have to watch his ending again to know for sure though.

What I think is that the consequence is going to come from killing his father. Sektor has screwed over too many people in the past, (Cyrax,Smoke, Sub-Zero, his own damn father). I have the feeling he is going to get got in MKX.lol.

Sub-Zero is going to ice that b**ch in the next game. (yes, definite pun intended).lol
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RazorsEdge701
03/06/2012 02:32 PM (UTC)
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If it were a curse, everyone wouldn't want it so bad. Obviously, the positives have to outweigh the negatives.

I think the appeal of elaborating on the whole "aged Sub-Zero/stole the Grandmaster's soul" thing though is that power that great SHOULD come with SOME sort of price, there does need to be some sort of negative to weilding something so useful, otherwise it's just a deus ex machina.
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StormChaser
03/09/2012 02:56 AM (UTC)
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The curse is that no one can find a good pair of shoes and a decent handbag to match the Dragon Medallion.
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Scar_Subby
03/09/2012 04:58 AM (UTC)
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A good headband can go a long way too, but those are just to hard to find. You know those dragon medallions, nothing without a good headband.lol.

On a serious note though, I agree with Razer. The positives have to outweigh the negatives, unless you kill your dad while he still wears it.Then you're just a bastard waiting for karma to catch up with you.

Come to think of it, what happened to the grandmaster in the old timeline? Did Sektor kill him as well?
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RazorsEdge701
03/09/2012 09:20 AM (UTC)
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Scar_Subby Wrote:
Come to think of it, what happened to the grandmaster in the old timeline? Did Sektor kill him as well?


Yeah, after MK4, Sektor's programming glitched out due to battle damage and he killed the Grandmaster, but before he could take the medallion, Subby showed up and fought him for it, and that's how Sub took over the Lin Kuei clan.

Then Sektor escaped, went to Japan, and started the Tekunin.
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EmperorKahn
03/13/2012 09:14 AM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
If it were a curse, everyone wouldn't want it so bad. Obviously, the positives have to outweigh the negatives.

I think the appeal of elaborating on the whole "aged Sub-Zero/stole the Grandmaster's soul" thing though is that power that great SHOULD come with SOME sort of price, there does need to be some sort of negative to weilding something so useful, otherwise it's just a deus ex machina.


What if the dragon medallion was like soul calibur or soul edge? It kind of reminds me of how sub-zero is like algol in that they can wield the dragon medallion/ soul edge and not be affected, but then those who are weak like frost and voldo were consumed by the same objects.
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