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posted06/21/2010 09:42 PM (UTC)by
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MINION
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First of all.

Arenas: now we know that arenas can be Seamless, or go a great distance before coming to an invisible wall. For the arenas in the new MK should they strech to help space players for mind game setups / special timing. OR keep gameplay centered? By Centered meaning give little space for room on the screen and make the opponent fight for control of his, or, her side of the screen?

Secondly,

Online Round Duration/Time: This is an option given in most fighting games now a days. Big thing in the PS1 classics where you could set the time to 30 seconds, 60 seconds, 99 seconds or Infinite. Same with rounds. Best of 2 or 3 and so on. Which would you prefer for the MP portion? Time changing & Round Duration has never been an Option in any MP MK. Though Street Fighter has this and Tekken.

Third,

Character Outfits:
This is pretty common. But what I'm more curious about is preference. I noticed Kung Lao has his MKSM Shirt and Pants. However he has some additions to this. One being his Arm Guards. Sub-Zero looks almost like his MKvsDCU look outside some Minor changes. Would you like to see this (modification) thing continue maybe even expanding through DLC with the characters or would you like Retro outfits to return?

Fourth,

Replay Channel: This is a great new addition that benefits Super Street Fighter IV quite well. And is also an addition that more and more games should support. Not everyone in this day in age still uses VCR's to record things. I think this would be great for matches you have that you wanna upload to YouTube or save for a rainy day.

Lastly,

Region Free or Region-less:
We all know the PAST MK's Online did not have Region Free Lobby's/Online.
Do you think this game should be Region free and you should be able to play anyone across the globe. OR Should it remain the same and continue to support certain States / Country's? I think this could help boost MP experience and add a lot more depth to the lobby.

That's just some things that I been thinking about. Share your thoughts. smile
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Ricardo Snow
06/21/2010 08:21 AM (UTC)
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Arenas: IT should be like the old MK's where its like centered, but ass you exceed the limit it goes further to the left or right. And arenas should include.

Dead Pool
Pit I, II and III
Goro's Lair
Motaro's lair
Living Forest
Reptiles... what ever thingy home
Portal
Scorpions lair
A Sub Zero level (NOT MKDA tongue)
A Shinnok level?

Online round time: For player matches they could have an option to set between 30-infinity. for ranked traditional 60 sec

Character outfits: I would like to see an option to could edit a second attire for someone. Like if you have Reptile, you could pick his new outfit, or press start on his name and pick a CUSTOM alternate. Like basically you could make it the classic Ninja one, or MKSM, or like MKSM head with MKDA body.

REPLAYS IS A MUST FOR ME. I like to record, but I'm to lazy to record all game. If something UNBELIEVABLE happens id like to go back and see it so i can record it then.

For the region thing. Maybe like you could select to play with the certain people from like Central in the US(where i live) - Moscow, Russia, and any regions in between. If you pic Central - Central you only play with central. or like west to east... Idk im stupid


Very nice thread Minion(:
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06/21/2010 08:49 AM (UTC)
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Arenas: I'm all for stretching the confines of the area. Just like in a real fight, where fighters circle each other and size each other up prior to going all out, it shouldn't be close-quarters attacking all the time. Plus it's always entertaining when you have a player who continuously tries to keep away from the opponent, while the opponent chases after them to keep on the offense. Variety is always good instead of being "forced" into a playing style. Plus, Street Fighter 4 always felt "confining" to me.


Online Round Duration/Time The more options, the merrier. Although if they do rooms like MKDC and prior, it would be better to keep the standard 3-rounds.


Character Outfits:
Why not keep the modified/new versions for the base game, and add retro outfits as DLC?



Replay Channel: Love it.


Region Free or Region-less: I like region-free. They could make separate rooms for players who want to strictly play locally. The key to "dilemmas" like these is always to go for variety.
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06/21/2010 09:01 AM (UTC)
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MINION Wrote:
ArenasFor the arenas in the new MK should they strech to help space players for mind game setups / special timing. OR keep gameplay centered? By Centered meaning give little space for room on the screen and make the opponent fight for control of his, or, her side of the screen?


Since were talking 2D this time out, I'd prefer centered. Seems more immediate to me. Which is funny, since in 3D fighters I love the more spacious arenas.

Would you like to see this (modification) thing continue maybe even expanding through DLC with the characters or would you like Retro outfits to return?


Retro outfits, but with the level of customization seen in Tekken and SC.

Replay Channel: This is a great new addition that benefits Super Street Fighter IV quite well. And is also an addition that more and more games should support. Not everyone in this day in age still uses VCR's to record things. I think this would be great for matches you have that you wanna upload to YouTube or save for a rainy day.


Agreed, though your comparison to SSF4 is far more apt than mine to Halo 3.

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06/21/2010 09:05 AM (UTC)
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MINION Wrote:
First of all.

Arenas: now we know that arenas can be Seamless, or go a great distance before coming to an invisible wall. For the arenas in the new MK should they strech to help space players for mind game setups / special timing. OR keep gameplay centered? By Centered meaning give little space for room on the screen and make the opponent fight for control of his, or, her side of the screen?


Arenas should be closed off in order to keep its respective 2D gameplay dignified to its usual 2D face to face combat system.

Another good reason for this would be tactics such as, "Learning to control space." This itself is great and gives the game much more depth, considering that the game will be well balanced enough to work in a 2D plane. This creates a footsies battle, and lets the player zone out his/her opponents. This has been used at the highest level of gameplay by street fighter players, and I have noticed it in ultimate mortal kombat 3, as well.

Reference To Controling Space:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0cFs5mHQC4


MINION Wrote:
Secondly,

Online Round Duration/Time: This is an option given in most fighting games now a days. Big thing in the PS1 classics where you could set the time to 30 seconds, 60 seconds, 99 seconds or Infinite. Same with rounds. Best of 2 or 3 and so on. Which would you prefer for the MP portion? Time changing & Round Duration has never been an Option in any MP MK. Though Street Fighter has this and Tekken.


As far as tournaments are concerned, and if you didn't already know, Minion. I am a tournament player. The game is played by a specific time limit, no matter what game it is. However, I don't think its hard to implement different time limits, nor do I think it will hurt the integrity of the game at all.

A lot of people who will pick this game up will have their preferences, so I honestly think they should definitely add 30,60,99 and up to infinite amount of time for players to choose from.



MINION Wrote:
Third,

Character Outfits:
This is pretty common. But what I'm more curious about is preference. I noticed Kung Lao has his MKSM Shirt and Pants. However he has some additions to this. One being his Arm Guards. Sub-Zero looks almost like his MKvsDCU look outside some Minor changes. Would you like to see this (modification) thing continue maybe even expanding through DLC with the characters or would you like Retro outfits to return?


Personally, I love the current outfits, but it would be nice if they gave us some DLC to choose from. Street Fighter gives their players DLC in packages. It would be nice to receive a package called, "Retro" or something of that sort. I would definitely buy it.


MINION Wrote:
Fourth,

Replay Channel: This is a great new addition that benefits Super Street Fighter IV quite well. And is also an addition that more and more games should support. Not everyone in this day in age still uses VCR's to record things. I think this would be great for matches you have that you wanna upload to YouTube or save for a rainy day.


Well, I'm one of the few who still records with a VCR! tongue lol

However, I might stop doing that. I love the "RC" channel SSFIV has, and I would definitely put it to good use on MK9 if it has it.




MINION Wrote:
Lastly,

Region Free or Region-less:
We all know the PAST MK's Online did not have Region Free Lobby's/Online.
Do you think this game should be Region free and you should be able to play anyone across the globe. OR Should it remain the same and continue to support certain States / Country's? I think this could help boost MP experience and add a lot more depth to the lobby.

That's just some things that I been thinking about. Share your thoughts. smile



Honestly, I don't think its such a bad idea, as long as the overall quality of the game has a decent net-play. I am an offline tournament player, but online practice does help. I think they should. Why not, right?
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robs727
06/21/2010 12:29 PM (UTC)
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They need to allow you to choose your netplay options, worldwide or same region or country. For no other reason other than stopping people getting matched with a person from the other side of the world.

In the first few months it should be very easy to find local opponents as there will be alot of players but after a while, it might be required for users to search worldwide to even get a game.
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06/21/2010 02:51 PM (UTC)
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MINION Wrote:
First of all.

Arenas: now we know that arenas can be Seamless, or go a great distance before coming to an invisible wall. For the arenas in the new MK should they strech to help space players for mind game setups / special timing. OR keep gameplay centered? By Centered meaning give little space for room on the screen and make the opponent fight for control of his, or, her side of the screen?

Secondly,

Online Round Duration/Time: This is an option given in most fighting games now a days. Big thing in the PS1 classics where you could set the time to 30 seconds, 60 seconds, 99 seconds or Infinite. Same with rounds. Best of 2 or 3 and so on. Which would you prefer for the MP portion? Time changing & Round Duration has never been an Option in any MP MK. Though Street Fighter has this and Tekken.

Third,

Character Outfits:
This is pretty common. But what I'm more curious about is preference. I noticed Kung Lao has his MKSM Shirt and Pants. However he has some additions to this. One being his Arm Guards. Sub-Zero looks almost like his MKvsDCU look outside some Minor changes. Would you like to see this (modification) thing continue maybe even expanding through DLC with the characters or would you like Retro outfits to return?

Fourth,

Replay Channel: This is a great new addition that benefits Super Street Fighter IV quite well. And is also an addition that more and more games should support. Not everyone in this day in age still uses VCR's to record things. I think this would be great for matches you have that you wanna upload to YouTube or save for a rainy day.

Lastly,

Region Free or Region-less:
We all know the PAST MK's Online did not have Region Free Lobby's/Online.
Do you think this game should be Region free and you should be able to play anyone across the globe. OR Should it remain the same and continue to support certain States / Country's? I think this could help boost MP experience and add a lot more depth to the lobby.

That's just some things that I been thinking about. Share your thoughts. smile


Excellent post there buddy. Glad to contribute.


Arenas

The way they have it set up is ok. With the combo system that is in place, I dont thinkthere will be much pressure on forcing a player into the wall like MK1-3. When i seen the pit2 at E32010, I was thinking about how wall-combos would affect gameplay. I feel there is enough warning come this sides of the arena both with seeing the characters in the baground fighting far to the side aswell as the level design close to the boundary. Id have it visually set up for warning the character with the back to the wall. a little "heads up" part of the arena that only appears at the sides (like the statues in the pit). Would force players to fight for their ground. I dont feel specials or any animations shoiudl be changed or forced away in these areas. I am also not opposed for levels to be wider as a whole.


Round rotation

I personally would always, and will always choose for no time limit. I can understand the cry for this option by some fans. It is something that is deffinately overdue and need to be implimented. "Host" or "winner" in a rotating cycle should choose this option in the intermission. It really comes down to style of play. If theres a Subzero who wants to Ice clone and hide, I am completely OK with that and he can run for minutes on end, I love the challange and dont want the time to run out. But people who want a compltely skill based form of gameplay shoudl deffinately have the option sto set to 30 second or 1 minute rounds.


Outfits

I like very much what we see right now, there seems to be a balance from fan favourates and classic representation, with some revamps thrown in. Sektor and Reptile Look beautiful. Subzero and Scorpion I think look better than ever. Subbys mask should change as its recycled but at the same time I miss scorpions MKDC mask.

I say each character, with DLC, should ahve at least 3 costumes. One in the form of their most classic appearance. One sort of a Revamp or stretch of the immagination, and one of them towards the end of the canon story/MKA. After that its all up to interpretation.

I would love for Netherrealm studios to do a public vote for DLC characters (or at least a portion of them) aswell as costumes.


Replay Channel

Amazing Idea, thought of this myself aswell. to have the last 30 battles documented on a temporary basis, we should be able to go abck and view/ cut out and save parts of our replys where we can alter playtime and angle, upload to a viewing area to be voted on. After playing NHL10. I feel that a system similar to that in terms of saving replays would be ideal. I personally have not seen any SF representationa nd cannot comment. But I want MK to top it for sure. NHL has a point of interest you can focus on or move, you can then play or reverse, slow motion, you can cut out a certain portion of the battle and change almost anything youd like withing it. Change the angle, change the speed during a certain part of the combo. amazing..


Region

Region-free is a demand!. after seeing past games die down, instead of me being the only person searching for a puzzle match or kombat match in north america on MKD. Let me paly worldwide and find somebody for sure! I Can even go back now and paly Socom2 which is ages old and theres still at least 1000-2000 people online. Fighting games dont get the same attention so I really want a region-free system. With North american lobbies aswell as international.


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06/21/2010 09:29 PM (UTC)
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Yea, The replay thing would be cool if it resembled the Uncharted 2 concept. Messing with Brightness, Contrast, Sharpness, Camera Angles etc... But if they could Implant any type of Replay Channel that's legit and lets you save your fights I'm all for it.
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06/21/2010 09:42 PM (UTC)
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MINION Wrote:
First of all.

Arenas: now we know that arenas can be Seamless, or go a great distance before coming to an invisible wall. For the arenas in the new MK should they strech to help space players for mind game setups / special timing. OR keep gameplay centered? By Centered meaning give little space for room on the screen and make the opponent fight for control of his, or, her side of the screen?


Nah, they should be centered and traditional. MK shouldn't try anything over the top with it's stages this time
Secondly,

Online Round Duration/Time: This is an option given in most fighting games now a days. Big thing in the PS1 classics where you could set the time to 30 seconds, 60 seconds, 99 seconds or Infinite. Same with rounds. Best of 2 or 3 and so on. Which would you prefer for the MP portion? Time changing & Round Duration has never been an Option in any MP MK. Though Street Fighter has this and Tekken.


Online needs to be 99 seconds, best 2 of 3 for ranked matches or whatever they are using. For friendly matches you should be able to set it any way you want.

Third,

Character Outfits:
This is pretty common. But what I'm more curious about is preference. I noticed Kung Lao has his MKSM Shirt and Pants. However he has some additions to this. One being his Arm Guards. Sub-Zero looks almost like his MKvsDCU look outside some Minor changes. Would you like to see this (modification) thing continue maybe even expanding through DLC with the characters or would you like Retro outfits to return?


Characters getting an update to their classic looks is fine by me. If alts are in this game, then characters should get original alternative costumes. Like stuff we haven't seen. Maybe a few characters get their classic look fans have wanted (Sub's MK3, Scorp's MKDA alt). Then again, I doubt we'll be getting alts
Fourth,

Replay Channel: This is a great new addition that benefits Super Street Fighter IV quite well. And is also an addition that more and more games should support. Not everyone in this day in age still uses VCR's to record things. I think this would be great for matches you have that you wanna upload to YouTube or save for a rainy day.


YES!!!!! Omg yes. MK needs a replay system. And not the crap one SSFIV has. MK needs to be able to record every match in it's entire length and upload them online. Something that I would love to see is the feature for the uploaded videos to appear on the internet. Then we could go on the specified website and downlaod the videos so that you can upload it later to YouTube. No more recording the tv!
Lastly,

Region Free or Region-less:
We all know the PAST MK's Online did not have Region Free Lobby's/Online.
Do you think this game should be Region free and you should be able to play anyone across the globe. OR Should it remain the same and continue to support certain States / Country's? I think this could help boost MP experience and add a lot more depth to the lobby.



It should remain region locked. I can't stress enough how much this helps.

And now for some of my suggestions:

Endurance: It has to return on the MK ladder for sure. Speaking of which...

Arcade Ladder/Choose your Destiny: The arcade mode needs to be improved on so that you can choose which difficulty you want. Make a new beastly sub-boss, and a playable boss character (KAHN PLZ). I'd love this
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