Could Triborg be from the old MK timeline?
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Could Triborg be from the old MK timeline?
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posted01/23/2016 02:30 PM (UTC)byTekunin_GeneralMember Since
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Pardon me if anybody has theorized this already.
I was just sitting around today thinking of the character. I really am excited to see what sort of path Smoke had taken to get from where he was on MK9/X's story to being not only a Cyborg somehow a compiled trio featuring two other beings very different from himself.
When I look at the announcement trailer for Kombat Pack 2, I just can't help but wonder who it really is that initiated this assembly. It makes sense for Sektor to do this as a backup plan or to gain more power to stand up to Kuai Liang. I can't really see Cyrax or Smoke doing it in the new timeline unless it was needed for a last chance at survival.
I found myself thinking of all the paths he could have taken. Triborg sounds very similar to Sektor's mka ending. So my first guess is that this is indeed Sektor. But if it was Smoke, why? Where and how? It just wasn't striking me as something that made sense. The cyber initiative ended before we had seen Human Smoke fighting for the netherrealm. So how?
If this character is canon, there needs to be an explanation. Then I thought of the existing Smoke from the old timeline. He's already well-aware of the themes of mandatory absence of choice between the cyber initiative and from being reprogrammed by Bi-Han in Outworld to become "Noob-Smoke".
With the Technology within them, potential Tekunin advancements and every other power in MK, could this be a plot to attack Subzero in a different time? Did the old NoobSaibot send smoke to accomplish something using The new Sektor and Cyrax's salvaged bodies? Could this really be a different Smoke from the previous timeline? If not, how do you think he and Triborg came to be like this?
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Sorry for the blotchy structure in my post. Newborn in my good hand and on my phone with my left.
I was just sitting around today thinking of the character. I really am excited to see what sort of path Smoke had taken to get from where he was on MK9/X's story to being not only a Cyborg somehow a compiled trio featuring two other beings very different from himself.
When I look at the announcement trailer for Kombat Pack 2, I just can't help but wonder who it really is that initiated this assembly. It makes sense for Sektor to do this as a backup plan or to gain more power to stand up to Kuai Liang. I can't really see Cyrax or Smoke doing it in the new timeline unless it was needed for a last chance at survival.
I found myself thinking of all the paths he could have taken. Triborg sounds very similar to Sektor's mka ending. So my first guess is that this is indeed Sektor. But if it was Smoke, why? Where and how? It just wasn't striking me as something that made sense. The cyber initiative ended before we had seen Human Smoke fighting for the netherrealm. So how?
If this character is canon, there needs to be an explanation. Then I thought of the existing Smoke from the old timeline. He's already well-aware of the themes of mandatory absence of choice between the cyber initiative and from being reprogrammed by Bi-Han in Outworld to become "Noob-Smoke".
With the Technology within them, potential Tekunin advancements and every other power in MK, could this be a plot to attack Subzero in a different time? Did the old NoobSaibot send smoke to accomplish something using The new Sektor and Cyrax's salvaged bodies? Could this really be a different Smoke from the previous timeline? If not, how do you think he and Triborg came to be like this?
P.s.
Sorry for the blotchy structure in my post. Newborn in my good hand and on my phone with my left.
See a part of me wants to be cynical and say no due to Vogel constantly asserting that there is no other timeline. There is only one and everything that took place before MK 2011 has been annihilated from all of reality.
But then, NRS does something assholeish and contradictory to that statement, like Kitana's ending and we are left just going "what the fuck?!" so *shrugs*
I mean I seriously doubt it. I still am of the mind set that little Triborg is nothing more than a fan service non canonical character. But by this point I know better than to put all my eggs in one basket when it comes to making assumptions about NRS these days.
But then, NRS does something assholeish and contradictory to that statement, like Kitana's ending and we are left just going "what the fuck?!" so *shrugs*
I mean I seriously doubt it. I still am of the mind set that little Triborg is nothing more than a fan service non canonical character. But by this point I know better than to put all my eggs in one basket when it comes to making assumptions about NRS these days.
PaletteSwap40000 •01/22/2016 05:47 AM (UTC) •
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Onaga Wrote:
See a part of me wants to be cynical and say no due to Vogel constantly asserting that there is no other timeline. There is only one and everything that took place before MK 2011 has been annihilated from all of reality.
But then, NRS does something assholeish and contradictory to that statement, like Kitana's ending and we are left just going "what the fuck?!" so *shrugs*
I mean I seriously doubt it. I still am of the mind set that little Triborg is nothing more than a fan service non canonical character. But by this point I know better than to put all my eggs in one basket when it comes to making assumptions about NRS these days.
See a part of me wants to be cynical and say no due to Vogel constantly asserting that there is no other timeline. There is only one and everything that took place before MK 2011 has been annihilated from all of reality.
But then, NRS does something assholeish and contradictory to that statement, like Kitana's ending and we are left just going "what the fuck?!" so *shrugs*
I mean I seriously doubt it. I still am of the mind set that little Triborg is nothing more than a fan service non canonical character. But by this point I know better than to put all my eggs in one basket when it comes to making assumptions about NRS these days.
This guy gets it. Triborg is just a fan servicebot, if they make up canon for him, it will be entirely after the fact.
frabn •01/22/2016 07:51 AM (UTC) •
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No. I think what everyone is perceiving as "Smoke" is simply Tri-borg's base form. He may have smoke-like abilities (we haven't seen anything to indicate that other than the harpoon), but any similarities to robot smoke at this point are, I think, merely honorific to the original secret robot. Boon and Vogel both have insisted that Tri-borg is his own character.
I think the comic book came up with a plotline involving Sektor creating a whole new prototype of cyber lin kuei that never went into production before Sub-Zero killed him. Tri-borg, i'm guessing, is that one surviving prototype that somehow activated after Sektor's defeat. What little we know of him suggests that he may be able to assiminlate techniques from other fighters, or other robots (hence his ability to mimic Cy and Sek). I bet his baseline mode IS robot Smoke, but lorewise, he has nothing to do with Smoke. He is definitely a product of the new timeline only.
I think the comic book came up with a plotline involving Sektor creating a whole new prototype of cyber lin kuei that never went into production before Sub-Zero killed him. Tri-borg, i'm guessing, is that one surviving prototype that somehow activated after Sektor's defeat. What little we know of him suggests that he may be able to assiminlate techniques from other fighters, or other robots (hence his ability to mimic Cy and Sek). I bet his baseline mode IS robot Smoke, but lorewise, he has nothing to do with Smoke. He is definitely a product of the new timeline only.
Tekunin_General •01/22/2016 09:11 AM (UTC) •
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Well the official press-release info actually labels him at Cyborg Smoke so I am willing to bet it's him.
I also thought they would treat the old timeline like a poison until I seen Kitana's mkx ending. Why even play with that subject?
I'm not sure if Triborg will be canon but it's a really interesting way to use one roster slot for three characters that were often traded out. I'd rather not a 33% chance of my favourite cyborg getting the "Cyborg" slot. That's pretty much one appearance per decade.
If this really is the next generation of MK with new rosters and new directions, I think Triborg is arguably one of the best solutions to roster disputes to date.
I also thought they would treat the old timeline like a poison until I seen Kitana's mkx ending. Why even play with that subject?
I'm not sure if Triborg will be canon but it's a really interesting way to use one roster slot for three characters that were often traded out. I'd rather not a 33% chance of my favourite cyborg getting the "Cyborg" slot. That's pretty much one appearance per decade.
If this really is the next generation of MK with new rosters and new directions, I think Triborg is arguably one of the best solutions to roster disputes to date.
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I also thought they would treat the old timeline like a poison until I seen Kitana's mkx ending. Why even play with that subject?
I also thought they would treat the old timeline like a poison until I seen Kitana's mkx ending. Why even play with that subject?
EXACTLY! I mean, what the actual fuck NRS!? Make up your mind! You going the DC multiverse route or what?
I keep wanting to say stop trying to have your cake and eat it too...but I am not sure I am using the proper application of that proverb...
Blade4693 •01/22/2016 02:39 PM (UTC) •
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He has more than the harpoon, if the gameplay trailer we see him teleport and catch the opponent in the air, appearing out a puff of smoke. At the very beginning of the clip it also seems like he does an ex overheard flip kick where he drops from the sky in a cloud of smoke.
Anyway, I could see it being Smoke from og timeline, but I still I think this is some back up bot Sektor created and designed with the ability to absorb/download/fuse with other LK tech
Anyway, I could see it being Smoke from og timeline, but I still I think this is some back up bot Sektor created and designed with the ability to absorb/download/fuse with other LK tech
No. I think the previous timeline is now truely behind us. I am pretty sure it will not affect this timeline any more.
I have always thought that Triborg is the cybernetics that Smoke was suppossed to have. It is well possible that the Lin Kuei enhanced the cybernetics when Smoke eluded capture.
I have always thought that Triborg is the cybernetics that Smoke was suppossed to have. It is well possible that the Lin Kuei enhanced the cybernetics when Smoke eluded capture.
PaletteSwap40000 •01/22/2016 06:14 PM (UTC) •
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Casselman Wrote:
Well the official press-release info actually labels him at Cyborg Smoke so I am willing to bet it's him.
I also thought they would treat the old timeline like a poison until I seen Kitana's mkx ending. Why even play with that subject?
I'm not sure if Triborg will be canon but it's a really interesting way to use one roster slot for three characters that were often traded out. I'd rather not a 33% chance of my favourite cyborg getting the "Cyborg" slot. That's pretty much one appearance per decade.
If this really is the next generation of MK with new rosters and new directions, I think Triborg is arguably one of the best solutions to roster disputes to date.
Well the official press-release info actually labels him at Cyborg Smoke so I am willing to bet it's him.
I also thought they would treat the old timeline like a poison until I seen Kitana's mkx ending. Why even play with that subject?
I'm not sure if Triborg will be canon but it's a really interesting way to use one roster slot for three characters that were often traded out. I'd rather not a 33% chance of my favourite cyborg getting the "Cyborg" slot. That's pretty much one appearance per decade.
If this really is the next generation of MK with new rosters and new directions, I think Triborg is arguably one of the best solutions to roster disputes to date.
I think you read it wrong, it says something like we get Sektor, Cyrax, and Cyber Smoke in the form of Triborg, not that Triborg is Cyber Smoke.
shrairyuwarrior •01/22/2016 06:25 PM (UTC) •
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No Tri-Borg is a new entity. If you remember from the reveal trailer, Sektors parts were in the Lin quei compound along with Cyrax most likely ever since Sub -Zero fought them in the comic. Now for smoke maybe he found some body and cyberized it or took his powers somehow wince Smoke is Enenra and a revenant...Idk lol. Vogel said he's his own man with a unique voice in intros so I guess we'll see.
As a DLC character he could just be non Canon but I like to think they incorporate him, just like Tanya Tremor and Bo rai Cho.
For me IMO the only characters truly non cannon will be
Predeator, Jason,Leather face and Alien
As a DLC character he could just be non Canon but I like to think they incorporate him, just like Tanya Tremor and Bo rai Cho.
For me IMO the only characters truly non cannon will be
Predeator, Jason,Leather face and Alien
Tekunin_General •01/22/2016 06:34 PM (UTC) •
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I think if he wasn't canon, they wouldn't go to the point of "He is his own man, has his own voice and own identity".
The work put into establishing that alone means there was thought and planning to his character. If it wasn't canon, they would just say "Hey!!! Here are THREE of your favourite characters in the form of one character slot! Pick any of the three cyborg variations and have fun!! Yayyyy DLC KP2 #NRSfanservice!"
Nope. Instead, he has an identity.
In my honest opinion after having the time to think about it, he has to be canon. Maybe rebranded with a new name for a future title. No not Hydro. Stop it...
The work put into establishing that alone means there was thought and planning to his character. If it wasn't canon, they would just say "Hey!!! Here are THREE of your favourite characters in the form of one character slot! Pick any of the three cyborg variations and have fun!! Yayyyy DLC KP2 #NRSfanservice!"
Nope. Instead, he has an identity.
In my honest opinion after having the time to think about it, he has to be canon. Maybe rebranded with a new name for a future title. No not Hydro. Stop it...
PaletteSwap40000 •01/22/2016 07:50 PM (UTC) •
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Here is the statement from the original KP2 release:
"Additional characters include classic Mortal Kombat characters Bo Rai Cho, master of the drunken fist, and series favorites Cyrax, Sektor and Robot Smoke in the form of new Kombatant, Tri-Borg."
He may be become canon, may get his own identiy, but again, this is all after the fact. He's ultimately still just fan service...
"Additional characters include classic Mortal Kombat characters Bo Rai Cho, master of the drunken fist, and series favorites Cyrax, Sektor and Robot Smoke in the form of new Kombatant, Tri-Borg."
He may be become canon, may get his own identiy, but again, this is all after the fact. He's ultimately still just fan service...
QueenAhnka •01/22/2016 09:17 PM (UTC) •
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This serious pondering we're doing kills me because I'm sure even NRS doesn't even know at this point. As others pointed out, he's just a quickly thought up fan service character who's main goal is to make all the cyborg fans happy. That's it.
I just hope Tri-Borg doesn't become a crutch for NRS in future games in an attempt of escaping the effort of simply making Cyrax and Sektor separate characters, "Oh fuck it, let's just use Tri-Borg". I could almost see Cyrax and Sektor as separate characters entirely becoming obsolete. I hope I'm wrong. Hopefully Tri-Borg will go the way of Chameleon.
I just hope Tri-Borg doesn't become a crutch for NRS in future games in an attempt of escaping the effort of simply making Cyrax and Sektor separate characters, "Oh fuck it, let's just use Tri-Borg". I could almost see Cyrax and Sektor as separate characters entirely becoming obsolete. I hope I'm wrong. Hopefully Tri-Borg will go the way of Chameleon.
J-spit •01/23/2016 02:30 PM (UTC) •
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Blade4693 Wrote:
He has more than the harpoon, if the gameplay trailer we see him teleport and catch the opponent in the air, appearing out a puff of smoke. At the very beginning of the clip it also seems like he does an ex overheard flip kick where he drops from the sky in a cloud of smoke.
Anyway, I could see it being Smoke from og timeline, but I still I think this is some back up bot Sektor created and designed with the ability to absorb/download/fuse with other LK tech
He has more than the harpoon, if the gameplay trailer we see him teleport and catch the opponent in the air, appearing out a puff of smoke. At the very beginning of the clip it also seems like he does an ex overheard flip kick where he drops from the sky in a cloud of smoke.
Anyway, I could see it being Smoke from og timeline, but I still I think this is some back up bot Sektor created and designed with the ability to absorb/download/fuse with other LK tech
He also literally did Smoke's teleport-punch from MK9. Don't deny it folks: the Thmoke is real!
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